Lolwaffles Afrika!

[Oberon]

Welcome to the Desert, aka Hunters place.

http://www.afrika-korps.com/afrikakorps_fotos/me109_afrikakorps.jpg

Erwin Rommel and his Afrika Korps are smashing their way through to Egypt, and the glorious Lolwaffles have been sent back in time to help them! :rock:

http://www.afrikakorps.org/_photos/ColorShare/RommelWDAKLuftKom.jpg

Rommel: So Stefan, what is this glorious staffel we're receiving?
Frölich: Err...they're called the Lolwaffles, Herr Rommel
Rommel: This is an in-joke, right?
Frölich: Erm...

Hunter: Schiesse, this is hot!
Schroeder: It is hot in Africa
Hunter: Shut up Smartarse!
Red Max: Hey, they've given us G2s!
Oberon: G2s? Decent aircraft? Is Goring feeling alright?

Mission One:
Escort He-111s on a bombing mission to Malta, elite Spitfire pilots from the Battle of Britain are to be expected.

Schroeder: Spitfires on the runway! ALLAH ACKBAR! *kaboom*
Task Force: Wrong airforce, gak, there goes my engine
Red Max: Achtung Spitfire!

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0338.jpg

Oberon: I thought these guys were supposed to be Battle of Britain veterans....
Red Max: They are
Oberon: Then they should know not to fly straight and level in a combat zone for longer than ten seconds!!!


Mission Two:
Fw-190s and Bf-109G2s on a ground attack.

Task Force: What does this button do?
Hunter: GAK!
Task Force: GAK!

http://www.thescale.info/news/uploads/fw190-2-wreck-others.jpg

Oberon: Hey Schroeder, catch this!

http://airwar.hihome.com/airwar/ww2-europe/part2/act11-bf109e_bombing.jpg

Schroeder: Right, you're in for it now...
Oberon: GAK!

http://www.ansa39-45.fr/images/Id4.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/18/article-1097643-00568B8D00000258-695_468x449.jpg

Rommel: We're doomed....




PROPAGANDA / VIDEOS

http://s243.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/jcc2k1/?action=view&current=LolwafflesAfrika.flv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0FX9m2WN8

[XabbaRus]

Ooh looks like I have come back at the right time.

[Task Force]

yep... were in africa...:lol:

[HunterICX]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/18/article-1097643-00568B8D00000258-695_468x449.jpg
(Left: HunterICX, Middle: Rommel, Right: Schroeder)

Rommel: Well schroeder, I shall now explain you the basics of ground attacking with a 109...since you just managed to ram yourself into your targets instead of strafing them.
Schroeder: but...but...but I am the expert on this terrain I don't need to know the basics I passed those tests long before that cheesehead was even born!
Rommel: Fatty said he's the only Smartass here and he knows the best for you.
HunterICX: *snorts* Grrmmfffp hehehe
Schroeder: Shut uuuup!

---

HunterICX

[Oberon]

I think I've found my skin for this campaign:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5219/20062009102758.jpg


Landing's and take-offs, however, fell well below the usual Squadron standards. Once he borrowed a new Macchi 205 from a neighbouring Italian Squadron and crashed it on landing. It left a poor impression of his general ability as a pilot



Shortly afterwards, in early October 1940, after having claimed seven aerial victories all them flying with I.(Jagd)/LG 2 Marseille was transferred to 4./Jagdgeschwader 52 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdgeschwader_52), flying alongside the likes of Johannes Steinhoff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Steinhoff) and Gerhard Barkhorn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Barkhorn). He wrote off four aircraft as a result of operations during this period


Sounds like my kind of guy :up:

[HunterICX]

:har: Yep, nice find :haha:

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Right, who is responsible for this campaign?

[XabbaRus]

and inability to fly as a wingmanSo who does this sound like in our squadron.

Marseille did sound like he would fit in with us.

Did you get that skin at M4T?

BTW which squadron are we with?

[Raptor1]

Bf 109s, Fw 190s, gunpods...don't tell me...

[Oberon]

Bf 109s, Fw 190s, gunpods...don't tell me...

It's the guy you nuked.

And yeah Xabba, I got the skin from M4T, it's originally for the F4 but seems to work alright with the G2 :yeah:

[Task Force]

Bf 109s, Fw 190s, gunpods...don't tell me...
Bf 109 g2 with or without gunpods, your choice in this campaign. fw 190s sometimes.

[Raptor1]

I almost shudder to think about the amount of civilians that would have to die for our suffering in this campaign...

[Oberon]

I almost shudder to think about the amount of civilians that would have to die for our suffering in this campaign...

Well, if it helps, I did a test with 12 B-29s in the Pacific and didn't kill IL2 :salute:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Heres my skin for this campaign, also its my first desert skin.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2231/20062009232634.jpg
Yes I know it has a swastika, deal with it!!!

[Oberon]

Some propaganda of the time to celebrate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK6ZKR_NqxA

[HunterICX]

:D

LoLwaffes: Pre-Afrika:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0FX9m2WN8

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Arrgh, them damned spies again! We really need to tell Fatty to stop showing off his master plan to every person that survives the initial meeting with him...

[Oberon]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Very nice Hunter :yeah:

[Task Force]

Good hunter. well, my official skin is the one i flew on friday.:up:
edit, here the pics are.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6798/il24.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/859/il23.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1130/il21.jpg

[Schroeder]

I think the portrait was great.:shifty:

[Schroeder]

I might join you late today. I'm going out with a friend of mine.

[Raptor1]

I might join you late today. I'm going out with a friend of mine.

...KRATOS?!?!!??!?!

[Task Force]

maby thats why we havent had kratos fly with us lately.:o

[Kratos]

He tells lies..he's got no friends :O:

[Kratos]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schroeder http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/styles/smartbrown/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1121777#post1121777)
I might join you late today. I'm going out with a friend of mine.





...KRATOS?!?!!??!?!
What may i ask your implying ?

[Kratos]

maby thats why we havent had kratos fly with us lately.:o
I should be there tonight, so you make sure that crate of yours doesn't buzz around my cockpit young man.:hmmm:

[Task Force]

I think raptor is talkin about you and schroeders little... talk... in a ju 88.:rotfl:

Well, ill see you there, and I... I guess i wont buzz you...:shifty:

[HunterICX]

Well, ill see you there, and I... I guess i wont buzz you...:shifty:

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6143/watchingyou.gif

HunterICX

[Oberon]

Sorry I ain't there chaps, spent most of today dealing with a machine uprising.

http://www.technovelgy.com/graphics/content08/terminators.jpg

"Where is Bill Gates?!"

[HunterICX]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2661/korps17.jpg

Rommel: Dear LoLWaffles...what did I explain about the balloons!
HunterICX: Don't Shoot them?
Rommel: Very Good hunter, your head is not too full of cheese as Schröder stated.
Schöder: Pfah...lucky guess..I'm the only...smartass here.....mmmgrmmbl..
Raptor1: The Balloon could've be a traitor...
Rommel: ANYONE who shoots a Balloon of ''Das Reich'' will be condemned a Traitor of das Reich and Fatherland!
Raptor1: Ok...I missed that part.
Task Force: What...if I told you I did it?
Rommel: I'm going to dig your so deep in the sand that only your head remains above and drive it over with my Panzer! well did you do it Task Force?
Task Force: No no no...just wanted to know what would happen to him
Kratos: Well...Task Force...I do not need a reason to dig you that far into the sand and drive your head over with a panzer *taps his shovel*
Red Max: You sure it wasn't the British that shot the balloon?
Rommel: I'm very sure, multiple witnesses have reported that the suspect was a 109/190 belonging to the LoLwaffle squadron..
Raptor1: Any chance of getting a list with the witnesses names? *reloads Karabiner 98*
Rommel: Nein!
Raptor1: Damnit.....
Rommel: Well...I will get to find out one day who did it.
*Red Max starts to whissle the tune of ''it's a long way to tipperary'' and Rommel with the lolwaffles move on back to base*

HunterICX

[XabbaRus]

So who did shoot down the balloon?

[Raptor1]

Nobody...I didn't do it...you have no proof!

[XabbaRus]

We should make a full length lolwaffles film....

[Task Force]

We should make a full length lolwaffles film....

Yea, only issue is that the only thing theyd see is abunch of 109s,fw 190s,he111s,ju88,ect crashing...:rotfl:

[XabbaRus]

It would be released under comedy

[Task Force]

:hmmm:yea it would.:rotfl:

[HunterICX]

Nice fact about ''Pips''

Josef "Pips" Priller

Josef Priller flew 1307 combat missions to claim 101 victories. All his victories were recorded over the Western Front, and consisted of 11 USAAF heavy bombers, 68 Spitfires (the highest Luftwaffe ace's tally for these aircraft),11 Hurricanes, 5 medium bombers, and 5 USAAF fighters.

:D

and ofcourse whats apotrayed in the movie ''the longest day'':

Priller was a popular commander with his men, and, in spite of a reputation for talking back to his superiors :haha:

HunterICX

[XabbaRus]

I'm going to try out a new skin by then end of the week.

Girrafe pattern I think....

[Task Force]

And i beat him in kills.:rotfl: (offline, 115 as of now.)

[Task Force]

Monday, from taskforces cockpit...
Mission 1... the lolwaffes were sent to bomb a base... I found out my bf 109 was at 50 percent fuel. which ment by the time I got to the target id have enough fuel to dogfight for a short time and RTB... When we approached the target. the spits were setting on the runway... and takeing off... we intercepted them... but some of us found how accurat the flak was... in the end only hunter and I returned to base (was lucky, got to base running on fumes.) I got 2 (should have been 3 if it want for the ai...

Mission 2... We took over the airbase... after pushing the brits out of that little section of afrika... amasingly, for the first time... we didnt have the sun in are eyes, or the mist on the gound... It was are first normal Transfer mission.... no action from enemy in here...

Mission 3 (The slaughterhouse...)
We were sent to escort stukas, who were going to attack a task force... but we incountered a horable problem... the other pilots who were not of the lolwaffe squadron were newbies... and stood no chance agaisnt the veterans... The lolwaffes fought hard, in attempt to down the enemy... The majority of the lolwaffes were shot down... except for red max and raptor 1 with his lone stuka... (all the rest were ither badly damaged, or distroyed.) with one wheel...

In a attempt to get the spitfires off him, red max managed to make 2 of them collide head on... but was only able to feel releaved for seconds when a angry brit in a spit ripped his wing off... and made him crash...

But back to raptor, he managed to land a stuka in the middle of the desert with 1 wheel, without ripping it apart... we havent seen a sign of him since.... lol

:rotfl:
I see what schroeder was saying about that mission...:shifty:

[Raptor1]

At least I managed to avenge the landing gear. In a fight of Stuka vs. Spitfire, apparently the Spit is the first to burst into flames

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

At least I managed to avenge the landing gear. In a fight of Stuka vs. Spitfire, apparently the Spit is the first to burst into flames You where lucky that there weren't two spits on your six, then you would be in trouble! That was funny that those two spits smashed into each other while attempting to shoot me down, and I recall someone asking why the 109s don't have mirrors, there is a mirror mod for 109s but it only effects the Emils:nope::damn:.

[Task Force]

yea, only for the E series... oah well, just gonna have to try to keep my 6 clear.:yep:

[Oberon]

That's one of the reasons I like the late G-6 series (uh oh, here comes Hunter with a Luger...), there is a better view of your six over your shoulder than the early G-6 and G-2.

[Raptor1]

That's one of the reasons I like the late G-6 series (uh oh, here comes Hunter with a Luger...), there is a better view of your six over your shoulder than the early G-6 and G-2.

So you can be quite sure of who it was that killed you?

[Oberon]

So you can be quite sure of who it was that killed you?

Well, they say you never see the one that kills you, so if you can see behind you then you'll never die!! Mwahahaa :yeah:

[XabbaRus]

That's like saying that one bullet has your name on it, so if you carve your name into your own bullet, you won't get shot.

That is real Baldrick logic.....

[HunterICX]

That's one of the reasons I like the late G-6 series (uh oh, here comes Hunter with a Luger...),

*door slams open*

:stare: WAS!!!

*points luger at Oberon, but Raptor1 lower his arm*

Not yet....we still might need him to spy the British

HunterICX

[Schroeder]

Wei yous Oberon for zat? Ei speek Inglish eccentfreelee es well.:D

[Raptor1]

Wei yous Oberon for zat? Ei speek Inglish eccentfreelee es well.:D

We still need you for a top-secret spying mission to Moscow, who'se details will be leaked to the Russi...ehm, not leaked to anybody

[XabbaRus]

Wei yous Oberon for zat? Ei speek Inglish eccentfreelee es well.:D

Ya but they can spot a smart arse a mile away....zey do not like zem.

[Oberon]

Won't be on tonight, bad Rhinitus attack, can barely see a bloody thing. Not that that really matters for Lolwaffle flying, but I'd also be Task Force'd in the fact that I cannot speak properly.

[HunterICX]

You know that Freisler will visit you to wish you well
(*which is ofcourse utter Bullsh!t...he's going to check if you really are sick)

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Being sick doesn't exempt one from being fed to the guns in a futile human wave attack! :stare:

[Oberon]

Freisler will visit you to wish you well
(*which is ofcourse utter Bullsh!t...he's going to check if you really are sick)

HunterICX


I have a medical certificate from our squadron medic:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fULlII_3Dho/SNfKOR8a2gI/AAAAAAAAAmM/jrH2egFQgkQ/s320/Dr+Riviera.gif

[Task Force]

All right, that was the last time... kicking me was the last straw... you know what... I *******ing quit... happy, youve pissed me off for the last da* time, I saw no issue with with me not haveing a mic...

I had fun online, but Ive had it...

Good Nignt.

signed
Task Force...

[HunterICX]

Perhaps you didn't saw an issue of not having a Microphone,
but some of us did.

All of us show effort to show how to use Teamspeak for what it has been made for, to us it with Microphone's/Headphones.

when confronted with the idea of getting a Microphone by others and me, you mostly came back with these smartass comments which fell in the wrong place for some of us. (not only me)

like the reason - Get a microphone, untill then goodbye.
long enough have you been given the time and there is absolutly no reason for not having one (and from what I recall you do have one, but still showed no mayor effort to get it to work)
so get it to work, or get a new one.
and if you dont feel like it? well it was nice flying with you Task Force.

HunterICX

[Task Force]

It was nice flying withyouall also... maby someday ill come back... and im sorry if I was a smartass...

[Dowly]

Oh for crying out loud! :haha: Power getting to yer head ABIT Hunter? Dont know about the rest of you, but I've 'known' Hunter long enough to see how you changed when you got to be a moderator. "Oh come on stop it guys. This is pointless" yaadidaa you say here and while on MSN or TS with me you say completely the opposite, you outright call the ppl with names and take a side. Hypocrisy at it's best.

Of course, I cant prove this, so go report to Neal, I bet there's room in the brig.

PS. Ow and wouldnt it be Jimbuna's decision whether to ban ppl without mic?

[Task Force]

now, after calming down... (would have been perfered to been told nicely to leave, than be praticeing with il2 and hear that TS voice telling me I was kicked...)

As I said, I am no longer flying... I sorry to anyone who I offended/annoyed, or anything along those terms, and to have a nice day.

as I said before I direct nothing towards the lolwaffles, I enjoyed flying with you, and I hold nothing against any of the lolwaffles.

[HunterICX]

the only screenshot that was saved...have to fix this application.

A spit experiences the wrath of the butcher in the air (Xabbarus in a FW190)http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3659/xabba.jpg


HunterICX

[Raptor1]

"God has a special providence for fools, drunks, and the United States of America."

- Otto von Bismarck on Red Max's Bf 109

[Kratos]

RE: T.F. kicking from the TEAM SPEAK server. It wasn't Hunter's decision alone. T.F. got the option when the kick happened, he can return when he has a mic, after many months of requests to obtain a mic to converse with the players who made the effort to communicate with each other. There was repeatedly sm@rt@ss comments made.


I deliberately stayed away from T.S. for almost two weeks due to the fact that i couldn't get my sound card to work ingame and with T.S. at the same time. Not that i cant type, but its so annoying having a chat bar expanded just to read what someone is typing, well thats my point of view.

now, after calming down... (would have been perfered to been told nicely to leave, than be praticeing with il2 and hear that TS voice telling me I was kicked...)

Would it have done any good? something tells me that whoever asked you, would get some lewd comment.

@ Dowly, Dont go jumping on Hunters back about this, it wasnt his decision alone. Yea! your known for not having a mic on T.S. but you never gave anyone a reason to kick/ban you. (not that i know of)

PS. Ow and wouldnt it be Jimbuna's decision whether to ban ppl without mic?
Ultimately yes. but it was discussed and the decision was left to the appropriate channel.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

"God has a special providence for fools, drunks, and the United States of America."

- Otto von Bismarck on Red Max's Bf 109:yeah::D:salute::|\\

[Task Force]

Would it have done any good? something tells me that whoever asked you, would get some lewd comment.


Well kratos, I would have left, im not that kind of person, and if he wanted me to leave until further notice, and when ever I had gotten a mic i would have came back after telling hunter that I would have gotten a mic.

Yes, when youall had asked me about getting a mic, I may have been a smart*ss at times, but if I had been asked to leave, or told that today was the last day for mutes, or something along those lines. I would have happly complied, and left, announced I wanst gonna be flying for a while, and left from there. But instead I had that T.S. voice Yell in my ear that I had been kicked... (Stupid me had the sound up, so it was more like yell.)

finaly as I said before to conclude this, If I had been asked I would not have said a smart *ss comment, and not wrote my origional response on this thread with the same anger I did, I would have simply wrote... something along tese lines


Hello fellas,
Hunter Informed me that since I dont have a mic, that I can nolonger fly with youall till I get a mic. So I will be out for a while. I had fun flying with youall for the past 9 to 10 months.

have a great day,
TF.

But I did not because I was furious when that T.S. bi*** yeled that crap in my into my ear. And thats why my origional post is wrote the way it was.

But despite what you or anyone else think, Im not the smart *ss you seem to think I am, im just telling you my opinion which may seem it, but im not meaning to offend anyone.

TF.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

To be honest, if I had been kicked in the manner the you where Task Force I would have responded in a simular fashon. As for all this smarta**ery, everyone is a smarta** at times, some more than others, but there are times to be a smarta** and times not to be one just like there is a time to talk and a time to shut it. As for your atitude durning the few months that I have flown starting with the failed "Yoxford Boys" campaign up to the present, I found your anticks to be funny but annoying, mostly it you buzzing around other peoples planes at the wrong time. That is what you do at the end of a mission, don't go around doing it after several requests for you to stop because that give more and more reason to get kicked. The time I saw you doing this the most was during the Kuban Campaign. This is my view in light of the current events, these are my opinions and feelings on this subject. I end this with one simple question to you Task Force, How its it that you can afford a game like Empire Total War but cannot get enough money togeather to buy a headset or microphone?

[Task Force]

Yes, I did buz people in the kuban campaign... as for ETW, was a gift from my parents, something I had told them I wanted months ahead of time, and they had gotten for me... But at this point, I need to buy a new keyboard as I said earlyer, cause mine had a "close encounter of the Soda kind."

Guess its an old habbit of mine... that managed to come back... like that little sholder shooting incident of mine...:oops:

Good night all...

[XabbaRus]

Hunter is IL-2 not letting you take screenshots?

[XabbaRus]

Oh one more thing, can you stick a couple of static cameras at our airfield as I want to start gathering material for a lolwaffles film.


I will also need some voice acting from Schroeder and Raptor as my german accent is rubbish.

[HunterICX]

Hunter is IL-2 not letting you take screenshots?

Using a 3th party application for Screenshots.
but I solved the issue seems to be working propperly now.

Oh one more thing, can you stick a couple of static cameras at our airfield as I want to start gathering material for a lolwaffles film.


I will also need some voice acting from Schroeder and Raptor as my german accent is rubbish.

I will try to memorize that when I modify the missions.

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

I will also need some voice acting from Schroeder and Raptor as my german accent is rubbish.

Need help from Schroeder or Raptor? Why would my German accent be any better?

[XabbaRus]

Because I need two germans to talk to each other in English..I'd just do a bad comedy one.....

[Schroeder]

Need help from Schroeder or Raptor? Why would my German accent be any better?
Well, take it as a compliment. When you read out German stuff your pronunciation is surprisingly good.
But Hunter could do it as well. Alt least he can speak German...sort of....:D


@TF
Here is a mic for 3$.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Computer-PC-Headphone-Headset-Microphone-For-Skype-MSN_W0QQitemZ320379354774QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item4a9818fe96&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|293%3A1| 294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Computer-PC-Headphone-Headset-Microphone-For-Skype-MSN_W0QQitemZ320379354774QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item4a9818fe96&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1234%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

I guess that should be affordable.

[HunterICX]

But Hunter could do it as well. Alt least he can speak German...sort of.

just admit it..

You rather grind your eardrums with rusty nails then having me trying to pronounce the german words correctly :O:

HunterICX

[XabbaRus]

Well, take it as a compliment. When you read out German stuff your pronunciation is surprisingly good.



Is that aimed at me? If so cheers....I was thinking Germans speaking English for the lolwaffles movie.

Anyway I'll let you guys know more later.

[Raptor1]

Is that aimed at me? If so cheers....I was thinking Germans speaking English for the lolwaffles movie.

Anyway I'll let you guys know more later.

I think he was talking about me and my ability to pronounce the word Stuka properly

Anyway, I'm pretty sure somebody else could do a better German accent than me

[XabbaRus]

You are German are you not?

[Raptor1]

You are German are you not?

No...Where did you get that impression?

[Schroeder]

You are German are you not?
:har:

Sorry, but that was just too funny.:D

[Oberon]

No...Where did you get that impression?

Your MOSSAD training is complete. :yeah:

[XabbaRus]

Oh, I just thought you were German for some reason? Sorry for any offence. I can see how it could be taken....

So where are you from?

[Raptor1]

*slits Oberon's throat and drops his body into the river*

Not so loud!

@Xabba

None taken (Maybe Schroeder is insulted though :O:)

I'm from Israel

[Schroeder]

*Raptor1 gets beaten to death and composted by Greenpeace members for poisoning a river*
:O:

[XabbaRus]

OK, don't know why I thought you were German....

[Oberon]

*Raptor1 gets beaten to death and composted by Greenpeace members for poisoning a river*
:O:

*Meanwhile at the river*

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/creature-from-the-black-lagoon.jpg

[Task Force]

... Afrika has swampmen.:o
Ill be back to flying in acouple of weeks, gonna take alittle break.

[Schroeder]

Sorry, my RL got in t he way of flying tonight.

[Oberon]

Won't be around this week. Hunting aliens. :up:

[XabbaRus]

I'm having an early night tonight.....sozz....

[HunterICX]

won't be around this week. Hunting aliens. :up:

RAPTOR!!!
HE IS DESERTING!

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

RAPTOR!!!
HE IS DESERTING!

HunterICX

Shh!

I decided that executing deserters on the spot is ineffective, we need him to lead us to his fellow conspirators and then shoot them all...

[Raptor1]

Woo! 7 B-17s killed!

...the points don't lie!

[HunterICX]

I had to experience the situation that I saw a nice B17 lacking behind so I dived on it...
and while diving on his six, another B17 popped up in my gunsight comming from underneath my Nose.
the only thing I could think of before clipping it ''Where does he come from?!''

HunterICX

[Kratos]

Woo! 7 B-17s killed!

...the points don't lie!

They lie!!! its a conspiracy :O:

I emptied my entire load into four B-17's and thought to myself before R.T.B. ''the're going nowhere now'' and what! only one actually went down.:DL

That second sortie was a laugh, Max stalled at take off, with his 190, I never even got the pile o' sh!t of the runway :oops: After the remaining 3 pilots dropped there loads at the docks,there was a real nice surprise waiting on the return home (16 spits) they dropped there loads again :rotfl:

the only thing I could think of before clipping it ''Where does he come from?!''

well there big enough :03:

[Raptor1]

The points don't lie, they're the only thing you can trust in the world...

[Oberon]

Red Max, Kratos, I can sympathise with you both, the SM-190 (Stall-Monkey 190), how do people use it?!?!?
If you dare try to turn sharp it snap rolls, if you even think of slowing below 150km/h it stalls, ok it has a nice cannon and MG setup and outperforms the 109 in several areas, but it's not a very stable platform.

[Kratos]

Red Max, Kratos, I can sympathise with you both, the SM-190 (Stall-Monkey 190), how do people use it?!?!?
If you dare try to turn sharp it snap rolls, if you even think of slowing below 150km/h it stalls, ok it has a nice cannon and MG setup and outperforms the 109 in several areas, but it's not a very stable platform.


SSSHH!!!! dont give any sympathy...the professor wont like it:O: no doubt he'll be along shortly telling us how to handle this stall monkey :03:

[Oberon]

Oh aye, Das Wunderflieger that only Germans, part-Germans and Task Force can actually fly :arrgh!:

Meanwhile in Afrika:

Schroeder: "You're a disgrace. I'd like to know how you got to be an Oberst, anyway."
HunterICX: "You promoted me."
Schroeder: "That has got nothing to do with it."

[Schroeder]

Red Max, Kratos, I can sympathise with you both, the SM-190 (Stall-Monkey 190), how do people use it?!?!?
If you dare try to turn sharp it snap rolls, if you even think of slowing below 150km/h it stalls, ok it has a nice cannon and MG setup and outperforms the 109 in several areas, but it's not a very stable platform.

Well if I fly my glider at 40 km/h it drops down just as well. What a crappy design... oh, the manual says that the minimum speed is 57 km/h by the way.....

Here we go (Yes Kratos, you were right about that:know:):
The ultimate solution is speed. At 450+ km/h you can out turn pretty much everything and you have one hell of a stable gun platforrm. Practise a little and be easy on the elevators as it (as you already know) has a very abrupt stall that will give you only very little warning (listen for the wind sounds). If you should find yourself in a position that you are low and slow you are scr**ed. The 190 doesn't like to climb and without energy you are toast.
While flying slow you will have constant problems with stalls (if you aren't careful that is;)) and the turning rate is...well... a catastrophe.
Always remember one thing above everything else: YOU ARE NOT FLYING A ME 109 SO DON'T FLY IT LIKE A ME 109!
Keep your energy: don't turn, use boom and zoom tactics!!!
For take off and landing you should use about 20km/h more speed than in a 109, with a 500kg bomb maybe even 30-40 km/h more. So don't try to pull a plane that has a minimum flying speed of ca. 160 -170 km/h in the air with a bomb loaded while you are going 150 km/h. It has to result in disaster:know:.

[Task Force]

yes... the fw 190 is a great plane... if you don't go all crazy in it... when i takeoff....

Put down landing flaps, gun throttle. (with WEP of if you have to.) go down runway... and don't pull up hard, pull up slightly till you get height. and try to gain good speed before you start turning and stuff.

when in flight Don`t do crazy moves all of a sudden. pull gently, when the plane starts shaking you are on your way to trouble. and keep your speed up... and remember, to zoom and boom... speed it the thing that will keep you from stalling out... also remember your combat flaps.

when landing...
attempt to slow your plane by pulling your throttle back, and using flaps. attempt to keep it above 200kms, 180-90kms at least. if it starts to fly funny, push the throttle up...

[Oberon]

Ja ja, ok Prof you got me there, I guess it's the way I fly, I have never boomed and zoomed in my life, I've always engaged in a turning dogfight, and every attempt I've made to turn away and climb has resulted in a riddled tail section and a long plummet into the ground/sea below.
I'm not denying that at speed the SM-190 is a nice aircraft, I just find her a bit too twitchy for my liking, I have a similar problem with other aircraft. I guess I'm more of the 109/Hurricane level than the Spit/190 level in regards to comfort zone.

I'll have to put more hours in on the 190 and then make a proper judgement, however most of my sortees with it have ended badly, although admittedly the last one wasn't the fault of the 190, it was my own frustration at being beaten to the punch by all and sundry that made me Allah Ackbar into a group of trucks.
The trucks were destroyed though :yeah:

[Task Force]

Patrice Z&B on bombers. go up about 1000m- 500m above the bombers, get above them, I myself go upside down instead of diving and having a red out., and dive on the enemy, get lined up, and fire, and pull up till i get altitude... and repeat.:yep:

[Oberon]

Hmmm, the problem I seem to be having is control, I'll get up to 500-1000m above them and dive but I cannot line up a proper shot to save my life, I move the stick a small part to the left and nothing happens, a bit more and I'm doing barrel rolls. It's a joystick problem no doubt, and I suspect that seven months in, my little Extreme 3D Pro is on the slippery slope to destruction, which is wonderful because there's no chance of getting a new one for a while.
That, or, the alternative, which is, I'm completely useless at this flying lark :haha::yep:

[Raptor1]

The only advantage of the 190 over the 109 for me is the ammo. Other than that, while the 109 may be slower and less maneuverable at high speed, the 109 is a much more versatile aircraft

But, of course, not as good as the P.11

[Schroeder]

Why would the 109 be more versatile than the the 190?

The 190 can take out bombers relatively easy. If flown correctly it can also dogfight most opponents (granted the Il2 version is castrated and can hardly deal with Spitfires if engaged at the same altitude while the real life counterpart ate the Spit MK V for breakfast). It is better in the ground attack role too. The air cooled radial engine can take more damage than the in line DB 600s of the 109 and it carries more bombs, guns and ammo. So what does make the 109 more versatile?:06:

[Raptor1]

Why would the 109 be more versatile than the the 190?

The 190 can take out bombers relatively easy. If flown correctly it can also dogfight most opponents (granted the Il2 version is castrated and can hardly deal with Spitfires if engaged at the same altitude while the real life counterpart ate the Spit MK V for breakfast). It is better in the ground attack role too. The air cooled radial engine can take more damage than the in line DB 600s of the 109 and it carries more bombs, guns and ammo. So what does make the 109 more versatile?:06:

The 109 doesn't stall in every single ground attack run or turning dogfight

And don't give me all that "flown correctly" nonsense, the fact that you have to fly it in a certain way makes it less versatile

[Schroeder]

If you say so.;)

[Raptor1]

Of course, I'm a bomber pilot, so whatever I say might be nonsense

[Fincuan]

Almost every aircraft has to be "flown correctly", or in a certain way, to be effective. A Mustang in IL2 just isn't a turn-fighter, but correctly flown is almost untouchable against its Luftwaffe opponents. A 109 doesn't like high-speeds, you all know how the controls lock up from 400km/h upwards, while an FW-190 loves these kind of speeds. There just isn't any single aircraft good for every flying style. Oleg's representation of the Russian wonders(La-7 ftw :)) is probably the closest thing.

[Oberon]

At the end of the day I guess it comes down to comfort with flying styles, Raptor is a bomber man, I like the stable but slow fighters and others like the high speed interceptors.
I guess the Lolwaffles have all the bases covered then at least! :haha:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Don't forget that a plane like the P-51 started out as a ground attack aircraft because the powerplant gave poor performance at high altitudes, it was only until the British put the Rolls Royce Merlin in the P-51 was its true calling as a high altitude escort was realized. The FW-190 was orignally built with one purpose in mind which was a high speed fighter aircraft to out match anything the allies had at the time. I will say this in the catigories of speed and handling the P-51 and FW190 are an even match. If we do fly an all 190 mission again I'm sitting it out.

[XabbaRus]

I must say that now I have the hang of the 190 I'll take it over a 109

Even at slow dogfighting speeds I can take on a Spit...I just found that you have to ease into a turn with the elevators....

If you yank even at high speed you get an accelerated stall.

190 for me given the choice.

[HunterICX]

I take what suits best for the role

for example if we have to intercept Bombers with escorts I take the FW190
for a Fightersweep or escort duty I would take a BF109.

HunterICX

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

I still like the 190 its just that I've been flying the 109 for too long. I tryed a few take-off and landing practices with the 190, the landing I don't have a problem with, its the take-off because the 190 is higher off the ground than the 109. I can take off with the external view on but I don't think Hunter will change that of just on pilot.

[Schroeder]

I still like the 190 its just that I've been flying the 109 for too long. I tryed a few take-off and landing practices with the 190, the landing I don't have a problem with, its the take-off because the 190 is higher off the ground than the 109. I can take off with the external view on but I don't think Hunter will change that of just on pilot.
Wait until you reach 200 km/h (120 mph) and pull the stick slightly back. It will take off nicely.:DL

[Kratos]

Apologies guys! needed to exit sharply tonight..Real life Dictates over Virtual time.:salute:

[XabbaRus]

I will be out of action for a bit, I'll try and fly maybe once a week.

Working on a little project which you shall be appraised of once I have something good to show apart from the little I have done up to now.

[Task Force]

could it be a nuke...:hmmm:

[Kratos]

I will be out of action for a bit, I'll try and fly maybe once a week.

Working on a little project which you shall be appraised of once I have something good to show apart from the little I have done up to now.


This thread is worthless without pics or vids ....:O::03:

[Task Force]

but its just a post no a thread... If he starts a thread then you could say that...
instead it should be...
That post is worthless without picturess or videos...

[Schroeder]

Campaign binned by people's demand.:salute:

[Oberon]

One last look at the insanity of Afrika:

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/images/9130sn1a.gif

Sniper: Hey look! It's Schroeders internet connection! A-goyn!!

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Hunter: POWEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!

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Raptor: I'm going to break the world air speed record
Schroeder: You're going to break your plane...

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Raptor: Mweh... *boom*
Oberon: Heh heh heh *boom*
Schroeder: Hmmm...DIE SCHULTZ!!

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1530/13072009221512.jpg

Kratos: Sod this for a game of Luftwaffe...

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HunterICX: How do you say Die Schultz in Italian?

[Raptor1]

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/images/9130sn1a.gif

Sniper: Hey look! It's Schroeders internet connection! A-goyn!!


THIS PROVES IT! The Mosin-Nagant does an effective range of 20,000 miles and it can hit Task Force from down here!