Cloak of Silence - Stealth tech not for aircraft, but for submarines this time around

[SUBMAN1]

Brought to you by the great inventors of the world - America. You know we are in your backyard, but good luck knowing exactly where! :D

http://www.dailytech.com/Cloak+of+Silence+May+Give+Submarines+Additional+La yer+of+Stealth/article15435.htm

-S

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[CastleBravo]

The technology needs another three to five years before a "practical structure" can be developed for wide-scale testing.

If its all what it claims to be and it is seeing the light of day now I suspect it is already in use.

[Frame57]

"Silence is golden":woot:

[Jimbuna]

The Klingons have been using this technology for years :DL

On a serious note: Unless overcome, the giveaway will be when opening hatches etc. prior to an offensive weapon/missile launch.

[SteamWake]

"Silence is golden":woot:

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[AVGWarhawk]

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[AVGWarhawk]

On a serious note: Unless overcome, the giveaway will be when opening hatches etc. prior to an offensive weapon/missile launch.

Yeah, but Jim, if you are close enough to open a hatch and let a missile go to do it's damage it is over for the receivers of said missile. At that point, it does not matter if they know you are there. :D

[Jimbuna]

Yeah, but Jim, if you are close enough to open a hatch and let a missile go to do it's damage it is over for the receivers of said missile. At that point, it does not matter if they know you are there. :D

I think I'd be bothered if I was on a Boomer and suspected a Hunter Killer was nearby listening out for me :o

[AVGWarhawk]

I think I'd be bothered if I was on a Boomer and suspected a Hunter Killer was nearby listening out for me :o

Me too! I believe they still play those cat and mouse games these day.

[Letum]

Brought to you by the great inventors of the world - America.


I rather suspect Asia had a hand in bringing us Mr Fang, Shu Zhang and Leilei
Yin's invention as well. Even if only a genealogical hand. ;)

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

The technology needs another three to five years before a "practical structure" can be developed for wide-scale testing.

If its all what it claims to be and it is seeing the light of day now I suspect it is already in use.

In the other direction, they might spend 20 years trying to chase this wild goose down. Somewhere at the 5 year mark, someone will decide this wouldn't work. By 10 years those voices will become audible. About 20 the developers give up.

[Rhodes]

The Klingons have been using this technology for years :DL

From 2273 I think, let me check my Klingon history book.:03:

I liked this comments from the news site:

"Several submarines have collided in the past but with this new tech it'll be double the fun. "

And this one:

"If a two subs collide in the ocean and no one survives to hear it, does it make a sound?

If both are cloaked in silence, I guess not.

If one of those two subs carries a nuclear warhead, then I'd say, sure, everyone will hear it!" :D

[SteamWake]

A little off topic but this is what always bothered me about the movie Hunt for Red October.

Here the russians spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours on a super secret 'stealth' propulsion system "undectectable" yet a seaman figures out how to track it within a few hours using the gear they already had on the boat. :doh:

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

A little off topic but this is what always bothered me about the movie Hunt for Red October.

Here the russians spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours on a super secret 'stealth' propulsion system "undectectable" yet a seaman figures out how to track it within a few hours using the gear they already had on the boat. :doh:

Get used to this being the fate of Russian equipment in American fiction. They are intrinsically inferior. If they aren't some stupid "American ingenuity" would beat them anyway.

[Jimbuna]

Get used to this being the fate of Russian equipment in American fiction. They are intrinsically inferior. If they aren't some stupid "American ingenuity" would beat them anyway.

LOL :DL

[joegrundman]

A little off topic but this is what always bothered me about the movie Hunt for Red October.

Here the russians spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours on a super secret 'stealth' propulsion system "undectectable" yet a seaman figures out how to track it within a few hours using the gear they already had on the boat. :doh:

yeah, you just got to roll with those sorts of blows in Clancy books.

I think I'd be bothered if I was on a Boomer and suspected a Hunter Killer was nearby listening out for me :o

this is not the problem. The cloaking device will not affect passive sonar at all. It will curve active sonar around the hull.

So it will have a bigger effect on active sonar homing torpedoes and helos trying to finish off the sub long after initial detection, and also giving the submarine a much better chance to get away.

This because most vessels rely on passive for inital detection, although i remember reading that due to the increased quitness of modern submarines, general use of active is increasing.

[SUBMAN1]

I rather suspect Asia had a hand in bringing us Mr Fang, Shu Zhang and Leilei
Yin's invention as well. Even if only a genealogical hand. ;)

On that same note, so did the whole Universe. :yawn:

-S

[geetrue]

yeah, you just got to roll with those sorts of blows in Clancy books.



this is not the problem. The cloaking device will not affect passive sonar at all. It will curve active sonar around the hull.

So it will have a bigger effect on active sonar homing torpedoes and helos trying to finish off the sub long after initial detection, and also giving the submarine a much better chance to get away.

This because most vessels rely on passive for inital detection, although i remember reading that due to the increased quitness of modern submarines, general use of active is increasing.

Joe knows more than he's telling ... I can tell you one thing when another nuc passes you all you can hear is a hissing sound. You need sound frequecy detection gear to analize the source to tell what country she's from.

You woudn't believe how much noise a boomer makes. Not a watch would go by without hearing one of those big walk in freezer doors being slammed while sitting on sonar or even one time the diesel boat I was on had a crew members tape player grounded to the hull and the destroyer above making request for songs to be played.

This was forty years ago of course, but crews have to learn to be more careful especially when your life is on the line.

It's those pesky ASW planes with mad detection that will get you every time unless you hear him first and try to wiggle away with a deep all out run that is.

[ETR3(SS)]

The Ohios are pretty quiet, but it's all about crew discipline. Get some nub that doesn't understand the meaning of sound silencing in the scullery and everybody knows what hes washing. Odd how the loudest sounds come from the mess decks...:hmmm: But you're dead on about the ASW aircraft. I sat ESM and it was drilled into me what an APS-137 looked, sounded, smelt, and tasted like.

[Chef_Hendrix]

Joe knows more than he's telling ... I can tell . Not a watch would go by without hearing one of those big walk in freezer doors being slammed while sitting on sonar .


Chefs always get blamed! Everyones best friend till someone makes a noise and then we always the first to get blamed!!!......................................... Usually true though! :yeah:

[joegrundman]

Welcome aboard Chef Hendrix. So you are a chef on board a submarine?

[Chef_Hendrix]

Thanks! Been followin these forums since SH2 just never registered!

And to answer your question, yep, currently servin RN Chef of the Deep!

[Jimbuna]

Thanks! Been followin these forums since SH2 just never registered!

And to answer your question, yep, currently servin RN Chef of the Deep!

What boat are you on currently?

[Chef_Hendrix]

One of the Trafalgar Class T-Boats operating out of Plymouth. Been serving onboard nearly 7 yrs now. Had some good jollys out of them considering we dont get too many on boats. My brothers a skimmer served a year and a half longer than me but has seen at least 10 more countries than me, but I prefer the subs. Anyone thats served in boats will appreciate how much more informal but profesional onboard boats are compared to the skimmers. Everyones first names cept the pusser, xo an the old man! obviously theres more than that, but its the little things like that, that make the difference.

[Jimbuna]

One of the Trafalgar Class T-Boats operating out of Plymouth. Been serving onboard nearly 7 yrs now. Had some good jollys out of them considering we dont get too many on boats. My brothers a skimmer served a year and a half longer than me but has seen at least 10 more countries than me, but I prefer the subs. Anyone thats served in boats will appreciate how much more informal but profesional onboard boats are compared to the skimmers. Everyones first names cept the pusser, xo an the old man! obviously theres more than that, but its the little things like that, that make the difference.

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