NK warns of a nuclear war...

[Task Force]

Yep, dem nk like to threaten with there Nukes.:yep:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090614/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

[SUBMAN1]

Something tells me that one should invest in stock in companies that produce Aegis and THAAD.

-S

[Dowly]

Something tells me that one should invest in stock in companies that produce Aegis and THAAD.

-S

And any companies that make coffins. :hmmm:

[Task Force]

I get this feeling they aint gonna do a thing... Theyd know theyd have lots of larger countrys on there tails, and theyr not the only ones with nukes. They appear just to want to act like a little kid and get attention.

[Raptor1]

And any companies that may not be located in the center of large population concentrations

[Aramike]

Not really advocating this, but part of me thinks that we should drop a nuke of our own in one of their more sparsely populated areas, and say, "really?"

[Dowly]

I get this feeling they aint gonna do a thing... Theyd know theyd have lots of larger countrys on there tails, and theyr not the only ones with nukes. They appear just to want to act like a little kid and get attention.

It's not just about the nukes, they are also threatening to use force against anyone who tries to stop their ships. Bluff or not? We shall see.

[Task Force]

yea, aparently they forgot what happend to japan.

[Contact]

NK was always a time bomb. Looks like it's lifetime is ticking to the end. But whole world was waiting too long watching what will happen next there. And now we have it. An idiot with nuclear weapon threatening the world! :nope:

[Skybird]

Yep, dem nk like to threaten with there Nukes.:yep:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090614/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

The x-th time - or was it already the y-th time? I fear I lost track a bit.

I wonder why this even makes headlines anymore.

Keep an eye on their proliferation, and blow it up for them where needed. Beyond that - ignore them.

[Schroeder]

The x-th time - or was it already the y-th time? I fear I lost track a bit.

I wonder why this even makes headlines anymore.

Keep an eye on their proliferation, and blow it up for them where needed. Beyond that - ignore them.

Not sure whether it is that easy any more. If they have nukes they might want to use them. The system is on it's last legs (actually we have been told that for the last 20 years or so....). If/When NK runs out of options I'm not so sure they would be reasonable enough not to use them. "Fear the old men for they have nothing to lose". I just can't see the whole "elite" to go without taking as many with them as possible. Oh, and btw they don't care if their own people get nuked.

[Skybird]

1. They now how to press the West's buttons.

2. They have been rational enough to survive and secure the regime for decades and avoid a suicidal war despite their blackmailing rethorics.

3. They are enthroning the tyrant's son.

Don't worry for them launching a war now. Proliferation is the big risk with NK - this is where we must counter them effectively, and proliferation is what makes a nuclear NK so dangerous. A war would cause terrible losses in life to the South Koreans, and probably destroy much Seoul, no doubt on that - but it would also be the suicide of the northern regime, for that war would be bloody as hell - but cannot be "won" by the North. And they know it, because -> see point 2 above.

[Buddahaid]

I keep waiting for China to respond. If they won't reign their puppet in, they must like the show. After all, a potential war of nukes next door can't really be welcome, so they wait for the US to bankrupt itself trying to keep peace? And then what?

Buddahaid

[Skybird]

China has allowed a sanction bill that before they would not have allowed. And the last thing they want is hvaing an uncontrollable situation at their border like a hot war or a NK regime going amok. that NK no longer follows their order as an obedient vasall, is fact - and they do not like it, since they lost considerable ammounts of control of NK.

[Jimbuna]

China has allowed a sanction bill that before they would not have allowed. And the last thing they want is hvaing an uncontrollable situation at their border like a hot war or a NK regime going amok. that NK no longer follows their order as an obedient vasall, is fact - and they do not like it, since they lost considerable ammounts of control of NK.

Agreed....but hopefully NK realising the support they have relied on for so long, not being there any longer, will make them realise how increasingly isolated they are becoming and make them think twice.

[AVGWarhawk]

I get this feeling they aint gonna do a thing... Theyd know theyd have lots of larger countrys on there tails, and theyr not the only ones with nukes. They appear just to want to act like a little kid and get attention.

I would agree. It is posturing and nothing more. Hey, you got a big stick and we have a big stick to counter your big stick. Same crap USA and Russia has done for years. NK really does not want a counter strike. The same question comes up that has come up for years. Who would win?

[AVGWarhawk]

I keep waiting for China to respond. If they won't reign their puppet in, they must like the show. After all, a potential war of nukes next door can't really be welcome, so they wait for the US to bankrupt itself trying to keep peace? And then what?

Buddahaid

Apparently China can have a very big influence here and can apply pressure.

[Task Force]

The NKs missles probably dont work right. they go up at a 90 degree angle. and then it comes right back down... (or alittle flag comes out that says "Bang") lol

[Stealth Hunter]

We need a Tsar bomb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c

[FIREWALL]

Neutron bomb. Massive Gamma rays, minimal destruction and short life. Very efficent people killer. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Neutron bomb. Massive Gamma rays, minimal destruction and short life. Very efficent people killer. :yep:

Precisely....put Kims name on one http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[NealT]

And the collateral damage?

What do we do about that?

Just wait...we think this is bad...wait until the day when we have phasers and disrupters and disintegraters...because then it will happen without warning and there will be no discussion about it...because we simply will not exist.

[FIREWALL]

I have a gut feeling it will be an aggressive act against Japan that NK will use to try to draw, the US in.

[Rockin Robbins]

China is the key here. They have never been an aggressive invader or other countries, but they have been very firm in putting down loose cannons in their sphere. NK borders on China. China won't tolerate much more foolishness on their part.

[August]

China is the key here. They have never been an aggressive invader or other countries, but they have been very firm in putting down loose cannons in their sphere. NK borders on China. China won't tolerate much more foolishness on their part.

Agree 100%

[FIREWALL]

China is the key here. They have never been an aggressive invader or other countries, but they have been very firm in putting down loose cannons in their sphere. NK borders on China. China won't tolerate much more foolishness on their part.

What nationality was Khengis Khan ?:03:

Please don't tell me he was Irish. :haha:

[Skybird]

China is the key here. They have never been an aggressive invader or other countries, but they have been very firm in putting down loose cannons in their sphere.
One could say so. The third Vietnam war was pretty bloody, and determined. Own losses did not stop them until they had fully lectured the Vietnamese megalomaniacs. I assume Chineser tank forces have learned a lot from that war (especially how not to do things...). On the other hand, the Vietnamese got a brutal spanking, too.

NK borders on China. China won't tolerate much more foolishness on their part.
NK used to listen to them, but does not anymore, at least currently. China already IS extremely pissed. But it's options now are somewhat limited, it seems. That's why even they agree on tougher UN resolutions now (whatever they are worth).
I
t is hard to correctly assess how much of the current showacts has to do with enthroning the leader's youngest son, and make him known to the people and popular with the military. If that's what it is about, they sooner or later calm down again.

[Skybird]

What nationality was Khengis Khan ?:03:

Mongol, as far as you can answer a question for nationality in this context. Anything I miss here?

[Raptor1]

What nationality was Khengis Khan ?:03:

Please don't tell me he was Irish. :haha:

Who the hell is Khengis Khan?...

[Skybird]

A typo only. He means Genghis Khan.

[FIREWALL]

Who the hell is Genghis Khan?...


The famous Shakka Khan's older brother. :03:

[Subnuts]

Who the hell is Khengis Khan?...

John Wayne.

[Buddahaid]

John Wayne.

God that was an awful casting!

Buddahaid

[August]

Kirk hates his guts!

http://angelinafauxlie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/khan.jpg?w=293&h=300

[Skybird]

The famous Shakka Khan's older brother. :03:
ooops, there I was jumping into the water with no need...

[SteamWake]

NK's missle could reach US targets.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98RR9180&show_article=1

But yea your right they would most likely try to get the US 'dragged' into things.

Something sadley familiar about that.

[CastleBravo]

NK's missle could reach US targets.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98RR9180&show_article=1

But yea your right they would most likely try to get the US 'dragged' into things.

Something sadley familiar about that.

Well we are coming up on the six month prediction by VP Joe Biden about a manufactured crisis.

[CastleBravo]

Out of curiosity does anyone know Russia's policy toward NK?

[Castout]

Let's hope there would not be a second Korean war. Can't imagine if the Chinese were to be involved:dead:.

[FIREWALL]

How doe's China benifit either way ?

[Castout]

I'm sure the Chinese are not willing to see right across their border a country which is friendly to the western allies such as South Korea so thus I would imagine that it would consider having North Korea as a client state to act as a buffer beneficial to the Chinese. Who do you think support the North Korea regime to survive this long had it not been for the Chinese.

Anyway just my 2 cents.

[Jimbuna]

The west could always negotiate making NK a demilitarised zone with the Chinese :DL

[FIREWALL]

Let's see now. :hmmm:

We owe China a ton of money. :hmmm:

We are the largest consumer of their exports.:hmmm:

Then I look what the NK has to offer China but, alot of political headaches.:damn:

[Sledgehammer427]

NK is a political headache in itself.

Kim Jong-Il is like that kid who gets a few cents in change, enough to buy candy, and he goes around acting like some kinda of god because he can buy candy, blissfully failing to notice NATO playing poker with ten-dollar bills ;)

[FIREWALL]

NK is a political headache in itself.

Kim Jong-Il is like that kid who gets a few cents in change, enough to buy candy, and he goes around acting like some kinda of god because he can buy candy, blissfully failing to notice NATO playing poker with ten-dollar bills ;)

And bad kids eventually get spanked. :yep:

[August]

Let's see now. :hmmm:

We owe China a ton of money. :hmmm:

We are the largest consumer of their exports.:hmmm:

Then I look what the NK has to offer China but, alot of political headaches.

Yeah and imagine what would happen to the world economy, and China's sources of revenue, if the NK's should loose off one of those nukes.

[CastleBravo]

The latest is that NK is planning to test fire a missile toward Hawaii.

Do you think Mr. Obama will make a statement warning NK off of this?

So far I have seen nothing which makes me believe Mr. Obama is anything other than a weak president who likes nothing more than spending money none of us has, and apeasing the enemies of the United States. If he doesn't get tough with NK now he will forever be labeled the man who allowed the Truman legacy to die.

Change you can believe in?

Which brings up another question. How many US citizens would Mr. Obama let perish under clear aggressive warning, before he moved ?

[Task Force]

And bad kids eventually get spanked. :yep:
:lol:
Thats not always true.

[Jimbuna]

The latest is that NK is planning to test fire a missile toward Hawaii.

Do you think Mr. Obama will make a statement warning NK off of this?

So far I have seen nothing which makes me believe Mr. Obama is anything other than a weak president who likes nothing more than spending money none of us has, and apeasing the enemies of the United States. If he doesn't get tough with NK now he will forever be labeled the man who allowed the Truman legacy to die.

Change you can believe in?

Which brings up another question. How many US citizens would Mr. Obama let perish under clear aggressive warning, before he moved ?

I'm not an American citizen but I can't imagine any of his advisors or military senior command allowing that to happen.

[Platapus]

I think we need to keep in mind there is a considerable difference between launching a missile in the direction of Hawaii and launching a missile AT Hawaii.

This is not the first time North Korea has launched a TD-2 toward Hawaii. The 1998 and 2006 tests were also in the direction of Hawaii and both tests failed.
:yawn:

[SteamWake]

Tests do fail sometimes but it would appear they have the bugs hammered out and now this.


North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528880,00.html

[Raptor1]

They said "wipe out the aggressors"...that's far from "wipe off the map"...

Either way, I find that notion laughable, they're forgetting having nuclear weapons doesn't make the almighty god of the world (As they're trying to make the people believe the great leader is...)

[Task Force]

Yes, but the us would retaliate and knock them off the map completly, I guess they forgot how big the United states is... anyway, the us will invent some gadget that messes with the missiles navagation system, makeing it go to space, or something.:hmmm: or blow it up.

[SteamWake]

They said "wipe out the aggressors"...that's far from "wipe off the map"...

Either way, I find that notion laughable, they're forgetting having nuclear weapons doesn't make the almighty god of the world (As they're trying to make the people believe the great leader is...)


"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.


I fail to see much difference here.

There simply testing the current adminstations resolve in my opinion.

[Raptor1]

Yes, but the us would retaliate and knock them off the map completly, I guess they forgot how big the United states is... anyway, the us will invent some gadget that messes with the missiles navagation system, makeing it go to space, or something.:hmmm: or blow it up.

Systems for countering ICBMs exist...how effective they are, is yet to be determined...

[AVGWarhawk]

Has NK gone completely mad? What, have they been harboring some ill will since the 50's? Do they realise this is a no win situation?

So, was Reagan's Star Wars really a crazy idea?

[Task Force]

obiously crysis had one thing about the North Koreans right... there crazy. lol In a way the main korean guy in both of them remind me of korean idiot kim something... all tough and bad till they get there a** kicked. lol now all we need is a island in the picific ocean with a realy big mountain in the middle of it. to have the story complete...

[Skybird]

They said "wipe out the aggressors"...

Easy. Just requires a missile launch and flight in the perfect vertical. Give them some good gyroscopes for free and wish them good luck. :D

[Task Force]

yes, but knowing the quality of the stuff comeing out of there... there missiles would blow up on launch...:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Has NK gone completely mad? What, have they been harboring some ill will since the 50's? Do they realise this is a no win situation?

So, was Reagan's Star Wars really a crazy idea?

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4569/palpatineevil.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/palpatineevil.jpg/)

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9933/darksidei.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/darksidei.jpg/)

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, I will tell you what, China will stand in here shortly. Being as the good old USA owes China trillions of dollars I suspect they do not want the USA to be blown up. :hmmm: