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Arclight
06-02-09, 03:04 PM
No time, quick post, read for yourself. :D
http://www.tcmuk.tv/news.php?id=74

A new solo 'Alien' movie is in the works and it appears to be a prequel of the 1979 Ridley Scott classic.

Skybird
06-02-09, 04:11 PM
Muß das sein? :dead:

Only sequels and prequels and remakes from Hollywood currently, it seems. Alien 3 already was boring. Alien 4 simply was terrible. Terribly bad, that is.

Wise decision by Ridley Scott not to direct, and leave producing it to his brother (financially it probably will be reasonably successful, since curiosity will drive people into the cinemas). However I wait for Ridley Scott's realisation of "The Forever War". That could become a feast, eventually. He tried 15 years or even longer just to get the rights, it really is heart's business for him, he said.

GoldenRivet
06-02-09, 04:40 PM
Alien and Aliens was good... should have probably stopped there.

Alien 3 was not great, but i wouldnt label it as boring.

I think this will be sort of an "Alien: Origins" film

fans of the original series know - that the "alien" eggs were found on a derelict spacecraft on the planet "LV426" - this spacecraft was not of earth origin.

perhaps this film will explain how the derelict spacecraft came to rest on the LV426 planet?

Arclight
06-02-09, 05:58 PM
Yeah, I think that will be the biggest appeal of the movie: filling in the blanks in the storyline. Since humans had no previous contact with the Aliens before the events of the first movie, it's possible it details how the derelict alien ship ended up there, leading to the first movie's events, or perhaps the struggle of another race against an Alien infestation (probably bit of both). Should make for an interesting plot either way.

GoldenRivet
06-02-09, 06:17 PM
Arclight - cool name

i'll expand on what you added.

In aliens, the marines have to use their tools of the trade creatively to fend off scores of alien aggressors.

if we did see a previously unknown intelligent alien race fighting for survival against the "aliens" it would be interesting to see how they deal with the threat - what creative ways they come up with to deal with the alien species.

Rhodes
06-02-09, 06:19 PM
Yes, it would! The trouble is that many times they don't go for interesting plots or good plots, they to bad one that in their mind would make a lot of money!

At least it's a prequel, I read it some where that they were thinking of doing a remake of the first film! :stare::down::nope::timeout:

August
06-02-09, 06:48 PM
Boy you guys are raising the bar awful high here.

Arclight
06-02-09, 11:50 PM
As always. :D

What I'm wondering is how the eggs got on board the alien spacecraft. Is it just the brood of the Alien that sprung forth from the alien creature, or were they transporting them? If so, for what? Biological weapon?

Maybe that alien race fought off an Alien infestation, and is transporting the last of it's brood... somewhere, in an attempt to save a species from extinction (respect for life, yadayada, ridiculous, I know).

Oh oh, one race creates aliens as bio weapon to wipe out another race, they fight back the Aliens and send a ship with eggs to return the favor, but the ship crashes, leading to well known events... I should write scripts. :smug: :rotfl:



Yeah, I agree, another race battling the Aliens and seeing how they deal with it would make it interesting... As long as it doesn't degrade to alien space marines blasting thousands af Aliens with gattling laser guns and over the top hollywood effects. :hmmm:
Arclight - cool nameThanks, likewise. :salute:

It's a reference to my favorite movie, though I don't think many people spot it. The avatar is a clue. 10pts. to whoever names it. :DL

UnderseaLcpl
06-03-09, 01:25 AM
reference to my favorite movie, though I don't think many people spot it. The avatar is a clue. 10pts. to whoever names it. :DL

"Apocalypse Now"?

GoldenRivet
06-03-09, 02:13 AM
"Apocalypse Now"?

damn you beat me to it :up:

good flick

Stealhead
06-03-09, 02:31 AM
Shows that I think too deeply. I noticed the name and just simply thought of Archlight which is what they called B-52 bombing missions aginst VC areas in South Vietnam and figured someone from Holland who likes B-52s and knows about thier history.

Funny though as that is a good part in the movie when they hear them.Speaking of remakes/directors cuts Redux is damn good if you ask me I love that French plantation and when they catch up with the Bunnys wish I could have seen it in a theater back 2000 but I was in germany then and they did not have it at the Air Base theater or the Broadway Kino which showed a few english movies for all the americans they also had beer at that one I did see Run Lola Run(Lola Rennt) back in 98 or so at the Kino with my now wife it was cool I got 5% of what was said after several beers I understood everything.Alien is the best by far of that series after Aliens that train got de-railed Id say.

Dowly
06-03-09, 08:49 AM
I'm pretty disappointed that R. Scott isnt directing it. :shifty:

As for the plot, IMHO, the origins of the Aliens should remain a mystery, same for the derelict spaceship. They'll just frack the story up somehow.

I'd like to see the story centering around the Hadley's Hope colony on LV426 just before the story of Aliens. But then again, part of me wants it to remain mystery too, as it gives the Aliens abit creepier feel to it not knowing what, when and how the colony was overrun.

Hell, to think of it, I dont know what there really is to add to the story that wouldnt either give too much away and ruin the series or just plain suck. :hmmm:

@Arclight

It's pretty obvious from the first movie that the derelict spaceship was indeed transporting the eggs, they are under some stasis field thingy (the blueish smoke). I'd guess to keep the eggs from hatching, the moment Kane slips down to the containment area, I think it somehow disrupts the stasis thus allowing the egg to hatch (dont ask me why all of them didnt hatch, tho :)).

Dowly
06-03-09, 08:53 AM
if we did see a previously unknown intelligent alien race fighting for survival against the "aliens" it would be interesting to see how they deal with the threat - what creative ways they come up with to deal with the alien species.

D'oh! With tons of special effects of course!

OneToughHerring
06-03-09, 09:07 AM
If they are going to make another one they should stick with the original recipe that worked: group of people in a contained space (space ship), some corrupt business entity pulling the strings (Weyland-Yutani in 1&2) and a bad-ass alien or aliens. Somehow just get back to that original claustrophobic, futuristic-yet-realistic feel of the original. IMO the only one who could do it is R. Scott, everyone else will just mess it up.

Part 3 was made with this recipe and well, some like it and some don't. I liked it, haven't seen the longest edition with the bull instead of a dog. Part 4 was just terrible.

kiwi_2005
06-03-09, 10:16 AM
I heard its going to be a remake of Alien. :down: Can you see where this is going. The new Alien then 2 yrs down the line "Aliens" then "Alien 3"... and so on. 10 yrs later they will put out a remake of Alien again & repeat... :har:

Jimbuna
06-03-09, 12:12 PM
Could be a pretty good sequal to HMS Thanatus :DL

FIREWALL
06-03-09, 12:27 PM
Pleaseee Don't have what's her name star in it. :haha:

Dowly
06-03-09, 12:29 PM
Sigourney Weaver? Nope, she more than propably wont star in it as it's an prequel. :03:

Arclight
06-03-09, 03:05 PM
"Apocalypse Now"?:salute:
One of those movies I can watch anytime, over and over. For some reason I have a fascination for the Vietnam setting too(Vietcong remains one of my favorite games, for example). Same thing with the music from the era.



Anyway, if I'm reading it correctly, Scott is at least involved with the movie, even if he isn't directing.

Reports from earlier this week suggest that Fox have brought on Scott and his brother Tony to produce a new film, but that commercial director Carl Rinsch would direct. Tony Scott has since confirmed that Rinsch, who has worked with the Scott Free production company run by Ridley and Tony, is indeed on board and that the movie is a prequel.

Wolfehunter
06-03-09, 09:15 PM
I and my cuisines love the first two aliens movies. After that it went way off course.

Still thinking about the alien ship on LV4 planet in my eyes looked like a transport ship or a prison ship? The on board aliens crew flying the dam thing may have had the duty to move the egg infested ship from A to B. Or simply keep it from going near any civilized galactic societies at that time.

I guess one of the crew was stupid and became a host. Then all hell broke loose and they crashed. They put out a warning to keep other species from boarding that ship.

But humans are as curious as cats and stupid too. Unfortunately we don't have nine lives.

All good theories but that is my views on that alien transport ship.

Dowly
06-02-10, 02:38 PM
Q&A with Ridley Scott:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1637638/20100422/story.jhtml

So, it is indeed about them Space Jockeys. :hmmm:

Ow and Giger's prolly coming to work on the film so yay for that! :yeah:

Then he hints that there might not be aliens at all, not atleast in the form we remember them. :down:

krashkart
06-02-10, 02:58 PM
Well cool. A prequel isn't such a bad idea for the series. Just don't let ILM get anywhere near it. I am bored to death with flashy CGI in movies.

Dowly
06-03-10, 05:19 AM
Scott wants to do 2 prequels. :o

You’re developing the Alien prequel, are you developing it as a series of films or a longer storyline?

Scott: It’ll be two. It’ll be prequel one and two. Then Alien 1.

Are you going to shoot the prequels together or shoot them separately?

Scott: At the moment I’m just trying to get the first one out.


Then the bad news are, of course, that CGI will be heavily used according to other interviews with Scott. In one he says he wants to jump the bar set up by Avatar. :hmmm:

Fincuan
06-03-10, 05:21 AM
SIn one he says he wants to jump the bar set up by Avatar. :hmmm:

Alien meets kiddy adventure stories eh?

Dowly
06-03-10, 05:27 AM
Alien meets kiddy adventure stories eh?

I think he meant the CGI side of it you stoopid you. :O: He's said that it'll be a very dark movie.

"The film will be really tough, really nasty. It's the dark side of the moon. We are talking about gods and engineers. Engineers of space. And were the aliens designed as a form of biological warfare? Or biology that would actually go in and clean up a planet? It will take place in the years before that, when they first come across this thing on a planet called Zeta Reticuli."Then he hints that there might not be aliens at all, not atleast in the form we remember them. :down:

Actually, this isn't such a bad idea after all. As it is suggested that when the facehugger lays it's eggs inside it's victim it takes part of the hosts DNA and starts to work on it. This can be seen in the original Alien, the head cupola is see-through and underneath you can see a human skull. :hmmm:

GoldenRivet
06-03-10, 08:46 AM
So basically we are looking at a story line which consists of 2 prequels.

My guess is that it will conclude with some alien infested ship crashing down on LV426 and activating a distress signal (actually a warning) to which the Nostromo responds resulting in the events of the first movie.

Dowly
06-03-10, 08:51 AM
So basically we are looking at a story line which consists of 2 prequels.

Yes.

My guess is that it will conclude with some alien infested ship crashing down on LV426 and activating a distress signal (actually a warning) to which the Nostromo responds resulting in the events of the first movie.

This has been discussed quite extensively in the forums of avpgalaxy (linky somewhere in this thread) and two possibilities have been popping up regularely; Either the ship was carrying the eggs and crashlanded or the Space Jockeys found the eggs from LV-426, loaded them into the ship but something went wrong.

OneToughHerring
06-03-10, 08:52 AM
Scott wants to do 2 prequels. :o

Then the bad news are, of course, that CGI will be heavily used according to other interviews with Scott. In one he says he wants to jump the bar set up by Avatar. :hmmm:

Meet the main character of Episode one: The Alien Menace.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/attachments/patsfans-com-patriots-fan-forum/2537d1262732764-raven-look-alikes-jar-jar-binks.jpg

Bilge_Rat
06-03-10, 09:44 AM
:salute:
One of those movies I can watch anytime, over and over. For some reason I have a fascination for the Vietnam setting too(Vietcong remains one of my favorite games, for example). Same thing with the music from the era.



oddly enough, I re-watched part of Apocalypse Now last night, one of my favorite movies, a brilliant, though slightly flawed masterpiece which is probably the best metaphor for not only the American experience in Vietnam, but Iraq as well.

"Arclight!, B-52 strike, charlie never hears 'em or sees 'em..."

Weiss Pinguin
06-03-10, 09:56 AM
Meet the main character of Episode one: The Alien Menace.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/attachments/patsfans-com-patriots-fan-forum/2537d1262732764-raven-look-alikes-jar-jar-binks.jpg
:rotfl2::rotfl2:

Wolfehunter
06-03-10, 11:47 AM
Sigourney Weaver? Nope, she more than propably wont star in it as it's an prequel. :03:Thank you... I really don't want her back. The last few alien flicks sucked. Her influence ruined them.. First 2 great but after that they for the dogs...

Dowly
06-04-10, 02:48 AM
I liked all three of the originals, fourth sucked balls. I'm on the "Alien 3 was AWESOME!" side, mainly because after all that happened in ALIEN & ALIENS, Ripley still doesn't get home and above all that she loses all her loved ones. The Trilogy is more about the living hell of Ripley than it is about the aliens, then came the fourth and cocked all up. :nope: Tho, Alien 3 does mess with the integrity of the series in terms of what have been gathered about the aliens in the last two flicks. :-?

And then came the Special Edition (I think) of Alien 3 that really fudged things up with the ox scene. :haha:

Dowly
06-06-10, 07:42 PM
Woot, ordered the Alien Quadrilogy 9-DVD boxset. 8 versions of the movies (theatrical & Special Editions), 1 DVD per movie devoted to making of documentaries, storyboards, stills, designs, deleted scenes etc. + 1 extra DVD with misc extras for all the movies. :rock:

TLAM Strike
06-06-10, 07:50 PM
Dowly (or anyone else interested) every read the original script for Alien 3?

http://stason.org/TULARC/movies/alien/13-Gibson-s-Alien-3-script-part1.html

Sooo much better...

Dowly
06-07-10, 08:22 AM
Dowly (or anyone else interested) every read the original script for Alien 3?

http://stason.org/TULARC/movies/alien/13-Gibson-s-Alien-3-script-part1.html

Sooo much better...

I've heard of it, but never actually read it, thanks. :up:

EDIT: Ow wait, I think they've made an comic out of the script. :hmmm:

Catfish
06-07-10, 01:24 PM
Anyway the 1st Alien film was surely inspired by this one, from the derelict ship to the giant skeleton :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUXlc8lLEzY

Greetings,
Catfish

Dowly
07-01-10, 06:05 AM
Wee got the Quadrilogy (Took their bloody time :stare:) and all I can say is 'wow..' :o

Highly recommended to anyone interested in the saga. :rock: Especially the 'ALIEN' storyboard is great, some cool scenes in it that sadly never made it into the movie. :cry:

AFAIK, there's an Blue-Ray version coming too with even more extras and rumours has it that some stuff about the new movie too.