The B.N.P. on the B.B.C.!?

[Freiwillige]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8lprxiOFc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcofcc%2Eorg%2F&feature=player_embedded

Must say, well done ol' chaps!

[jumpy]

Oh dear... :yawn:

After watching that and flicking through 10 pages of comments I couldn't help but smile. They are all such optimistic and friendly people, that I just couldn't bring myself to tell them what I think of them and their political aspirations, for fear of being made to feel guilty by their 'turn the other cheek open arms' attitude :know:

[Tribesman]

Must say, well done ol' chaps!
Yes well done , even brainless racist scum have the right to be heard.

[Freiwillige]

Call them what you will but you are not going to stop them. My sister inlaws English parents met during WWII. He was in the infantrie and she was a nurse, Both agree that Churchill himself would be more allighned with the BNP than any other current party.

[jumpy]

Call them what you will but you are not going to stop them.

Indeed not, with any luck they ought to manage that all by themselves.

What happened since referring to them as 'outright goose steppers' the other day to (unless I'm mistaken) this apparent advocacy?

[Freiwillige]

Well upon further inspection ive concluded that they arent goosesteppers.
Unless I am missing something? My family there supports them, I cant find much fault in what they say they stand for. Ive heard both sides from them being called out rite Nazi's to them being called the defenders of freedom.

I can only base my oppinion on what I have seen and compaired, And so Far the BNP seems to be the only party that adresses specific issues that the others refuse to even admit exsist. That is why the BNP is doing so well and far better than expected because the rest have there head in the sand and their hands in the chest so to speak.

I dont see anything about Prison camps, Deporting every Brition of color etc.

I could be wrong but they just dont seem to be Facists, Nationalists maybe, Nazi's I dont think so.

[Jimbuna]

It would be a very dark day in the history of the UK should these people ever gain power. :nope:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

UKIP ftw

[Letum]

...Churchill himself would be more allighned with the BNP than any other current party.

I can certainly think of one European leader who would align with the BNP...
In fact, he was strongly allied with one of the parties whose members later
split off to form the BNP. (It's not Churchill)

[DAB]

Well upon further inspection ive concluded that they arent goosesteppers.
Unless I am missing something? My family there supports them, I cant find much fault in what they say they stand for. Ive heard both sides from them being called out rite Nazi's to them being called the defenders of freedom.


They have a manifesto commitment to invade the Republic of Ireland and forcibly return them to the Union! Perhaps Freiwillige you should go to New York and loudly proclaim that enlightened BNP policy.

And once the American-Irish community have congratulated you for enlightening them on the wisdom of the BNP's own version of Lebensraum; you can also explain how restrictions on how thought, movement and god given rights; based on variation on skin tone is compatible with being an American and the oath that I expect you have sworn to your flag and your constitution.

I cant find much fault in what they say they stand for.

So you agree with the following BNP stances....


That the Holocaust is a hoax created as Wartime propaganda by the Allies. (Nick Griffin was prosecuted for Holocaust denial)
That a marriage between a man and a women is morally wrong if they have different skin colours (Nick Griffin again in 2005)
The criminalisation of Homosexuality
Veremently supports the position that... and to quote..."[science] has demonstrated... ...beyond any reasonable doubt there is a persistent gap in average black and white average intelligence" (Funny thing is, the guy whom I quoted then went on to say the BNP were a bit too socialist for his liking!?!?)

I would love to hear an American defend the following four stances and will read your replies Freiwillige with interest.

And once Freiwillige has mounted a logical, meriticratic defence of those four policies, we on this thread can go on to discuss the statement by the BNP's founder that Mein Kampf is the BNP's bible!

[Jimbuna]

They have a manifesto commitment to invade the Republic of Ireland and forcibly return them to the Union! Perhaps Freiwillige you should go to New York and loudly proclaim that enlightened BNP policy.

And once the American-Irish community have congratulated you for enlightening them on the wisdom of the BNP's own version of Lebensraum; you can also explain how restrictions on how thought, movement and god given rights; based on variation on skin tone is compatible with being an American and the oath that I expect you have sworn to your flag and your constitution.



So you agree with the following BNP stances....


That the Holocaust is a hoax created as Wartime propaganda by the Allies. (Nick Griffin was prosecuted for Holocaust denial)
That a marriage between a man and a women is morally wrong if they have different skin colours (Nick Griffin again in 2005)
The criminalisation of Homosexuality
Veremently supports the position that... and to quote..."[science] has demonstrated... ...beyond any reasonable doubt there is a persistent gap in average black and white average intelligence" (Funny thing is, the guy whom I quoted then went on to say the BNP were a bit too socialist for his liking!?!?)
I would love to hear an American defend the following four stances and will read your replies Freiwillige with interest.

And once Freiwillige has mounted a logical, meriticratic defence of those four policies, we on this thread can go on to discuss the statement by the BNP's founder that Mein Kampf is the BNP's bible!

Or that rape shouldn't be a crime because women enjoy sex :nope:

[Q3ark]

The BNP are scum, no matter how thay dress their ideas up.

Thay are no different than the Nazi party was back in the 30's and look how that worked out :stare:

[Tribesman]

Deporting every Brition of color etc.
Their policy is to expel people who are not British , it is also their policy that only people of white northern european origin can be British .

Both agree that Churchill himself would be more allighned with the BNP than any other current party.
:har::har::har::har:
I could have sworn old winston had plenty to say about the policies of National Socialism , but I can't recall him having anything favourable to say about that particular flavour of politics .
Are you sure they are not mixing up Winston Churchill with Oswald Mosley ?

I could be wrong but they just dont seem to be Facists, Nationalists maybe, Nazi's I dont think so.
Yeah right :doh: Have you seen Nick Griffin with the KKK? Have you seen him with C-18 .
Who exactly was that BNP fella who foolisly let slip in front of journalists the classic "Hitler will live forever"

[XabbaRus]

Well upon further inspection ive concluded that they arent goosesteppers.
Unless I am missing something? My family there supports them, I cant find much fault in what they say they stand for. Ive heard both sides from them being called out rite Nazi's to them being called the defenders of freedom.

I can only base my oppinion on what I have seen and compaired, And so Far the BNP seems to be the only party that adresses specific issues that the others refuse to even admit exsist. That is why the BNP is doing so well and far better than expected because the rest have there head in the sand and their hands in the chest so to speak.

I dont see anything about Prison camps, Deporting every Brition of color etc.

I could be wrong but they just dont seem to be Facists, Nationalists maybe, Nazi's I dont think so.

You don't see anything on the surface about what you have mentioned but it is there and not hard to find. Of course they say they represent the common Brit. Hitler did the same and look what happened.

Nick Griffin is a fat ugly unintelligent arse...

[Freiwillige]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMWcxqgzYdQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwhitereference%2Eblogspot%2Ecom% 2F2009%2F05%2Fwhite%2Doklahoma%2Dcity%2Dpharmacist %2Djerome%2Ehtml&feature=player_embedded

That should answer some questions asked of me, Others I am currently researching.

[jumpy]

Slippery git... like most politicians (though he barely qualifies as that imo) never quite answers a straight question with a straight answer.

Saying he changed his mind regarding the final solution doesn't change the fact that he's more ready to concentrate on the way the 'darkies' and 'peanuts' and anyone else differ from us wholesome white folk.

And whilst I do think immigration in this country is a problem, this man and his pedantic racial views only serves to make it more of a problem, for all the wrong reasons.


You tube has lots of stuff about he BNP.

I'll see your pro-link and raise you a few of anti ones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OSzAtxnAJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=863l51pJ8lU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZHnuRa00cE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL2UGPiJu2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN1-0LOAuAU

[XabbaRus]

I can't believe that you think this guy makes sense. He logically contradicted himself about 20 times in that interview.

[FIREWALL]

This looks like a British thing and us Americans should give this thread a wide berth. :yep:

We have got enough problems of our own to get mixed up with this. :yep:

[DAB]

This looks like a British thing and us Americans should give this thread a wide berth. :yep:

We have got enough problems of our own to get mixed up with this. :yep:

I suspect its because of my last post that your reading this as a British / American thing firewall. I reread my post and thought it might be interpreted that way myself.

What I meant was that Americans are renowned for their strong patriotism based on what they consider to be universal concepts of freedom, equality and justice for all. I am extremely curious to see how Freiwillige as an American can support both the BNP and the precepts that define his own national identity. My question certainly was not a demand for an explanation addressed to all Americans

DAB

[DAB]

That should answer some questions asked of me, Others I am currently researching.

You can research all the points that have been made, and probably find some press release where the BNP clarify, muddy or otherwise change their positions on all their positions. But then again, I could conduct the same exercise with any political party and prove that Labour are against Tuition Fees, the Conservatives want to join an EU superstate and that the LibDem's want a flat rate of income tax.

So rather then try and find the obscure quotes that simply show the BNP are a bunch of hooligans that can't even run a decent campaign perhaps you can tell us whether you endorse the BNP's stances that


Mixed Race Marriage is treason to a persons race
Homosexuality should be criminalised
That the Holocaust didn't happen
That women enjoy rape (thanks jimbuna for reminding me of that one)
That Black people are genetically stupid

and then explain how they are not far right policies.

[FIREWALL]

I don't support the BNP.

There type of thinking should go the way of the DODO. :haha:

[Freiwillige]

Mixed Race Marriage is treason to a persons race
"Well obviously it is! The question is, is that whats important to you? If not than mix away, If so than dont."
Homosexuality should be criminalised
"I dont agree"
That the Holocaust didn't happen
"Already been disputed\ with link to video."
That women enjoy rape (thanks jimbuna for reminding me of that one)
"Pure B.S."
That Black people are genetically stupid
"Food for thought, German sheppards are well proven to be more intelligent than say a cocker spanial, Yet they are both K-9's. Now ive met some very intelligent black people and ive met some very stupid ones and the same apply's to whites. I guess you would have to national average IQ's and compare. But good luck cause the P.C. elite slaughters anybody who prints such findings. Race is an Issue which cannot and will not be discussed period!

[DAB]

Race is an Issue which cannot and will not be discussed period!

You want to discuss the BNP, but ban discussion on their policies on Race!? I'm sorry, but I must resort to smilies for this one

:rotfl::doh: :88) :o :rotfl:

That's like suggesting we discuss the motivations of the papacy without referring to religion!?

Try answering the questions again. You stated in an earlier post that you couldn't find much to fault in what they stand for. I'd like to know why you think those stances are appropriate

[Tribesman]

Freiwillige clearly seems to be of the same mindset as the white surpemacist holocaust denying fruitcakes that are the neo-nazi BNP.
So there is nothing more to be said on this topic as trying to introduce any semblence of rational thought to racists is a waste of time .