From BDU to all IX UBoats - orders to make for N.Korea immediately

[Paul Riley]

From BDU-
To all IX long range UBoats-

After the recent alarming news of N.Korea carrying out illegal nuclear testing using short range BMs in the area all IX long range UBoats are ordered to immediately make preparations for N.Korea.Orders are to immediately blockade the area and use aggressive force on any N.Korean,Chinese and Russian shipping,with warships being a high priority,that may be transiting the area.Our involvement must be made in order to support our loyal allies the Japanese who for a long time have strove to maintain order and control in the region.

For those already out at sea orders are to return to the nearest axis port immediately and resupply with fuel and provisions.A large contingent of Milk Cows have been deployed to further support those already in far out sectors.

Our fight against the evil communists will prevail!

Good luck.
Strength and honour!

K.Doenitz.

[Paul Riley]

Even though this could have never happened during WWII its still interesting to pretend it could have,and implement it in our game :D

[XTBilly]

The good thing is that there are Chinese and Russian shipping to shoot at, because it would be frustrating trying to torpedo NK PT-missile boats !!:haha::haha:

[Paul Riley]

because it would be frustrating trying to torpedo NK PT-missile boats !!:haha::haha:

Hold that thought for a moment :shucks:

[Paul Riley]

Further note to IX UBoats

Expect laughable air attacks from Tai-Kwon-Do Suicide Bombers dropping 'Noodle Bombs' :har:

[papa_smurf]

To: BDu
From : U-501

Will proceed as soon as possible, will have Bernard on stand-by to "deflect" any Noodle Bombs.

[AndyW]

After the recent alarming news of N.Korea carrying out illegal nuclear testing using short range BMs in the area all IX long range UBoats are ordered to immediately make preparations for N.Korea.Orders are to immediately blockade the area and use aggressive force on any N.Korean,Chinese and Russian shipping,with warships being a high priority,that may be transiting the area.

Well, "immediately" is a relative term for my Type IXD2. It took me almost 45 days to even reach the Cape of Good Hope from Lorient! :doh:

Cheers,

[Paul Riley]

Good luck ! and dont forget,use all means at your disposal with the utmost attention to aggression and ruthlesness! :arrgh!:

Can I just ask,who the hell IS this Bernard character? :o:rotfl:

[sharkbit]

Can I just ask,who the hell IS this Bernard character? :o:rotfl:

Probably the most asked question on this forum.:DL

Bernard is the crewman that we all seem to have in our boats that we blame when we do something stupid :88), like run into the pier at Wilhelmshaven coming home from patrol at high TC, accidentally launching a torpedo at nothing, ordering hard port and nothing happens and you don't realize it as the mad destroyer is bearing down on you with a bone in her teeth, etc., etc., etc.

He's usually hides out in Balz's boat as a bunch of farting bananas.
:D

[Paul Riley]

Riiiiiight ,I see now,the scapegoat everyone likes to ridicule? :haha:

I had better keep an eye out for him then.If thats the case I have had a few problems with Bernard pressing the fire button accidentally in the past.I think he has a nervous twitch the poor sod.Better watch that coffee supply on my current mission,cant have him all pumped with caffeine walking like a chicken up and down the boat wherever he goes!

[Sgtmonkeynads]

I had the biggest, BIGGEST, "OH #$%&" moment this morning. :nope:

While getting coffee, I flipped over to the news. At that second the ALERT "North Korea has launched missles" came up. At that very moment when my mind registerd missle launch, the power went out. :o

"Oh My God, This is the End OF Everything" was my first thought. :dead:

Then The lights came back on. :88)

If that could have been set up any better it would go down as best prank ever. :har:

[Platapus]

Even though this could have never happened during WWII its still interesting to pretend it could have,and implement it in our game :D

Well......

It was in the area now known as North Korea where the Japanese had their nuclear weapon program.

Japan's Secret War: Japan's Race Against Time to Build Its Own Atomic Bomb
by Robert K. Wilcox is a most interesting read. He makes a surprising claim which has been difficult to refute.

If you ever wondered why, when Russia declared war on Japan, the Russians bypassed many military targets and made a bee-line for Hungnam.... :know:

[Paul Riley]

Actually...I DID see a documentary a while ago on the Military Channel (part of History Channel on Sky) about a nuclear project going on in Japan.If I remember rightly towards the very end of the war or maybe even after it I cant remember,a German UBoat carrying secret documents,materials and a small number of high ranking Japanese scientists set sail from Germany to Japan.Suffice to say they never made it,and I think the allies captured an amount of Plutonium,and hard water harvested in Norway,and I think there were a number of vials of mercury salvaged too.
The Japanese plan was to send balloons across the Pacific with a rudimentary nuclear payload attached,and...good night N.York and Washington.
Then shortly after the Americans did the reverse and nuked Japan.

Ahh,the controversies of history :shifty:

[Paul Riley]

I had the biggest, BIGGEST, "OH #$%&" moment this morning. :nope:

While getting coffee, I flipped over to the news. At that second the ALERT "North Korea has launched missles" came up. At that very moment when my mind registerd missle launch, the power went out. :o

"Oh My God, This is the End OF Everything" was my first thought. :dead:

Then The lights came back on. :88)

If that could have been set up any better it would go down as best prank ever. :har:

sgt.MN
I had the same experience on TV.Missiles?,N.Korea?,bad mix! I say nuke the little s##ts! :arrgh!: end of problem.

[Paul Riley]

the power went out. :o

I bet you thought it was the EMP wave that gets thrown out from an air blast nuke? I would have absolutely SHAT my britches mate! :timeout:

[Sgtmonkeynads]

I'm serious man. For that split second everything on earth stoped except my heart, it beat once, I could feal it move. Longest second of my life.
I have no more words to describe how messed up that moment was for me. Funny as it seems now, my life flashed before my eyes.


Oh, and yes I checked my pants.

[Platapus]

Actually...I DID see a documentary a while ago on the Military Channel (part of History Channel on Sky) about a nuclear project going on in Japan.If I remember rightly towards the very end of the war or maybe even after it I cant remember,a German UBoat carrying secret documents,materials and a small number of high ranking Japanese scientists set sail from Germany to Japan.Suffice to say they never made it,and I think the allies captured an amount of Plutonium,and hard water harvested in Norway,and I think there were a number of vials of mercury salvaged too.
The Japanese plan was to send balloons across the Pacific with a rudimentary nuclear payload attached,and...good night N.York and Washington.
Then shortly after the Americans did the reverse and nuked Japan.

Ahh,the controversies of history :shifty:


It was the U-234 and was a type XB sub.

It was carrying 2 ME-262 Jet fighters (actually parts)
560 Kg of U3O8 (Uranium Oxide)
Assorted technical documents on advanced torpedoes
and, 12 passengers including the aforementioned two Japanese Officers

The U-234 surrendered to American forces on 14 May 45. The two Japanese Officers committed suicide, the scientist passengers we recruited via Operation Paperclip.

The transportation of U3O8 has caused some debate over the years. At first it was thought to be a delivery to the Japanese Nuclear Program. However U3O8 is also used in the production of synthetic fuels such as Methanol.

560kg of U3O8 is not a lot when it comes to Uranium Enrichment, especially when the Japanese were using a Thermal Diffusion process. However 560 KG of U3O8 is a significant amount as a catalyst in the fuel process.

A most interesting subject. :yeah:

[Platapus]

I'm serious man. For that split second everything on earth stoped except my heart, it beat once, I could feal it move. Longest second of my life.
I have no more words to describe how messed up that moment was for me. Funny as it seems now, my life flashed before my eyes.


Oh, and yes I checked my pants.


You are, of course, entitled to your own reactions, but I have to ask, why would you think that a test of a Korean missile would result in an attack on Montana?

And don't you think any "effect" of the missile would precede the news reporting? If the news is reporting a missile launch, it has already landed/crashed. :)

The hatred the North Koreans have for Montana is well known, but I don't think they would use a missile test to take out Montana. :D

[XTBilly]

It was the U-234 and was a type XB sub.

It was carrying 2 ME-262 Jet fighters (actually parts)
560 Kg of U3O8 (Uranium Oxide)
Assorted technical documents on advanced torpedoes
and, 12 passengers including the aforementioned two Japanese Officers

The U-234 surrendered to American forces on 14 May 45. The two Japanese Officers committed suicide, the scientist passengers we recruited via Operation Paperclip.

The transportation of U3O8 has caused some debate over the years. At first it was thought to be a delivery to the Japanese Nuclear Program. However U3O8 is also used in the production of synthetic fuels such as Methanol.

560kg of U3O8 is not a lot when it comes to Uranium Enrichment, especially when the Japanese were using a Thermal Diffusion process. However 560 KG of U3O8 is a significant amount as a catalyst in the fuel process.

A most interesting subject. :yeah:

I agree with you sir. Very interesting subject.
And very good piece of information you gave us here !!:up::salute:

[danurve]

This mission would fail without question.

Come on, IX sonar magnets? All the N.Koreans need is a tug boat and a cheap fish finder. :|\\

[Coyote88]

The Japanese plan was to send balloons across the Pacific with a rudimentary nuclear payload attached,and...good night N.York and Washington.

They did that with some incendiary bombs, but of course it's the world's least accurate delivery method. They'd have been lucky to hit anything as large as Pasco, Washington, if they'd tried that.

[Sgtmonkeynads]

It was just that second. I didn't know what to think, caught off guard.

We have a lot of missle silos around here and I sit between Minot, Glascow, and Greatfalls Air Force Bases.

It was just freaky, when all I heard was missles launched and the T.V. and lights went out.

Plus Lil Kim hates the fact that I have more nukes on or near my property than he does. :shucks:

[Platapus]

Ahh Nuke-envy :D

[Paul Riley]

I mean this guy,he is barely 3ft tall,has a head the shape of a water mellon,has troops that march like a bunch of bloody poofs doing ballet,has recently suffered a stroke,and has the audacious nerve to flex his tiny biceps to the world?! :har:

One of our trident subs alone would cause N.Korea to disappear without trace if we so wanted.

You have been warned little hobbit :rotfl:

[Packerton]

In relation to the story posted a bit earlier in the thread about U 234, was there not a U boat that was also carrying something to Japan, that was torpedoed by a British Submarine? one of the only sub to sub torpedo victorys ever recorded? or did I just imagine that.

[Paul Riley]

I saw a doc. about something like that.A german UBoat was going,somewhere,unaware it was being shadowed by a British sub.They managed to plot the UBoat's course completely blind,setting themselves up for a 3 stage attack,with something like a few minutes between shots (I think).The UBoat immediately picked up the first incoming torpedo,ordered a steep dive,causing the torpedo to pass over the top,again,they heard another,same again,and a 3rd,which slammed into the UBoat destroying it.

I forget what was on board the UBoat,or where they were going.I think it is a different story than the Japanese cargo mentioned before,and I may be wrong.

[Paul Riley]

Just to let you know,N.Korea have in fact launched another short range BM today,making that their 6th in a week!,not to mention their underground atomic bomb test at the beginning of the week.S.Korean forces have been sent to garrison the border between the two states,in case hostilities break out.

Really,its getting out of control,and I think its only a matter of time before somebody gets nuked :o

[Paul_IronCoffin]

I agree Paul. Moreover, I agree with that excellent military history author Max Hastings, who said yesterday that the N.Korean leader was "quite mad, by any measure of the term".

[Paul Riley]

Yes,quite mad,and a worthy candidate for the firing squad too :x

[Paul Riley]

Hey Paul,
I bet the weather is nice in Barbados tonight hehe,I can just imagine a periscope sailing past as you sleep under a palm tree with the setting sun :yeah:
Do you live there,or just on holiday?

[Leandros]

From BDU-
To all IX long range UBoats-

After the recent alarming news of N.Korea carrying out illegal nuclear testing using short range BMs in the area all IX long range UBoats are ordered to immediately make preparations for N.Korea.Orders are to immediately blockade the area and use aggressive force on any N.Korean,Chinese and Russian shipping,with warships being a high priority,that may be transiting the area.Our involvement must be made in order to support our loyal allies the Japanese who for a long time have strove to maintain order and control in the region.

For those already out at sea orders are to return to the nearest axis port immediately and resupply with fuel and provisions.A large contingent of Milk Cows have been deployed to further support those already in far out sectors.

Our fight against the evil communists will prevail!

Good luck.
Strength and honour!

K.Doenitz.

Wonder how much Kim would pay to have me and my crew sign up with him....:ping:.....

[Leandros]

I agree Paul. Moreover, I agree with that excellent military history author Max Hastings, who said yesterday that the N.Korean leader was "quite mad, by any measure of the term".
Stratfor - a defense analyst bureau - has a somewhat different conclusion. Here is an extract of a recent article:

Kim Jong Il undoubtedly ranks very high among the world’s most idiosyncratic world leaders. But he has deftly transferred and consolidated control over a country that was run by a single individual, his father, for nearly 50 years. By balancing various groups and interests, he has both maintained internal control and loyalty and kept the attention of some of the world’s most powerful countries focused on North Korea for more than 15 years. Indeed, he has overseen the allocation of resources necessary to build both crude intercontinental ballistic missiles and crude nuclear devices while faced with crushing international sanctions (http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/20090525_north_korea_technical_implications_nuclea r_test). This is the track record of a competent (if annoying) leader, not a crazy one.

If Kim was merely suicidal, he has had the artillery, artillery rockets and short-range ballistic missiles at hand to destroy Seoul and invite a new Korean War since before his father died — a choice that would be far quicker, cheaper and even more complete than the prototype nuclear devices that North Korea has so far demonstrated. Rather, his actions have consistently shown that his foremost goal has been the survival of his regime. Indeed, he has actually curtailed much of the more aggressive activity that occurred during his father’s reign, such as attempting to assassinate South Korea’s president.

While Kim’s actions may seem unstable (and, indeed, they are designed to seem that way in order to induce an element of uncertainty at the negotiating table), Pyongyang regularly uses ballistic missile tests and even its nuclear tests (http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/missile_tests_and_north_koreas_strategy_survival) as part of a larger strategy to not only keep itself relevant, but to ensure regime survival.

[Paul Riley]

I just hate bloody communists,bolsheviks,lefties,and liberals,and would love to nerve gas the lot of em! thats my take on the whole affair.Thats without getting too political here,after all,this so called notion of diplomacy calls for the freedom of speech (yeah right,just come and live in Britain)

All the above mentioned groups are the reason this world is f###ed,there is no order or strength left,just pansies jumping on the band wagon all the time. (god they make my skin crawl)

Sorry if that has shocked anyone,but its just my view on the world.

[Leandros]

I just hate bloody communists,bolsheviks,lefties,and liberals,and would love to nerve gas the lot of em! thats my take on the whole affair.Thats without getting too political here,after all,this so called notion of diplomacy calls for the freedom of speech (yeah right,just come and live in Britain)

All the above mentioned groups are the reason this world is f###ed,there is no order or strength left,just pansies jumping on the band wagon all the time. (god they make my skin crawl)

Sorry if that has shocked anyone,but its just my view on the world.
So, you are obviously living in the wrong times.....:hmmm:.....

[Paul Riley]

Leandros,it CAN get difficult yes,having to cope with various groups of people,who in my opinion seem to want nothing more than to disrupt or destroy things.
I would like a return to a lot of the old values,even though its impossible now.I know the world (Britain and Europe mainly) has experienced its fair share of bloodshed and darkness over the centuries,but I have no doubt at all that folk were more sensible and lived in a closer harmony with the natural world.Something which is totally devoid in this corrupt and materialistic world.

And I have no doubt a lot of people will have to agree with me.Some of the things are just plain wrong and abhorrent today :nope:

I like to consider myself a bit of a lone wolf,and that in itself causes problems,as you tend to isolate yourself more from the mainstream than the others,unless of course when i'm in here,where I enjoy mixing with you all.Part of the pack in other words :arrgh!:

Hope you follow me here :yep:

[Jimbuna]

In relation to the story posted a bit earlier in the thread about U 234, was there not a U boat that was also carrying something to Japan, that was torpedoed by a British Submarine? one of the only sub to sub torpedo victorys ever recorded? or did I just imagine that.

http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/worldwari1/p/venturer864.htm

[Platapus]

[QUOTE=Paul Riley;1109359
I would like a return to a lot of the old values,even though its impossible now.[/QUOTE]

So I can further understand your position, could you please list these old values you were referring to?

[Paul Riley]

Old values that governments (an invisible war done through political correctness) and many other groups have stripped from our society.I am using Britain as an example here,no doubt its just as bad elsewhere.Labour for example,have actually created a totalitarian regime based on guilt for starters,teaching people to be ashamed of who they are,to deny their past and all the country has achieved over the years.They disregard our army,the elderly get punished where it should be the rich,and some of the crimes today are purely wicked,and I know most of it didnt exist in my parent's time,because they tell be about it.Mass (uncontrolled) immigration also,is causing more tension and hatred around the country lately,its just a matter of time before the gaskets start flying.
So old values are the sort of things like,stability,security,sensible people,proud people,close knit communities instead of isolated and warring communities,respect for the elderly (even more so for war veterans) ...and so on.

Well,you asked,and I think thats as accurate a description as I can offer :yep:

What country are you in anyway? what are things like over there?

[Leandros]

Leandros,it CAN get difficult yes,having to cope with various groups of people,who in my opinion seem to want nothing more than to disrupt or destroy things.
I would like a return to a lot of the old values,even though its impossible now.I know the world (Britain and Europe mainly) has experienced its fair share of bloodshed and darkness over the centuries,but I have no doubt at all that folk were more sensible and lived in a closer harmony with the natural world.Something which is totally devoid in this corrupt and materialistic world.

And I have no doubt a lot of people will have to agree with me.Some of the things are just plain wrong and abhorrent today :nope:

I like to consider myself a bit of a lone wolf,and that in itself causes problems,as you tend to isolate yourself more from the mainstream than the others,unless of course when i'm in here,where I enjoy mixing with you all.Part of the pack in other words :arrgh!:

Hope you follow me here :yep:
I follow you, Paul. And the SH is a very good means to soothe ones frustration of a world that doesn't conform to one's own ideas. That said, and as a compliment to my insert on North Korea, the powers villifying North Korea doesn't necessarily do it because they themselves are so nice. Or have pure motifs. It is all a power play - ensuring one's own interests. Which were also the reason for the two large conflicts of the last century. Just my opinion.

Surface, switch to outside view and put on "J'attendrai" on the record player. You have the perfect screensaver.....:sunny:....

This ends this Sunday (it is Sunday, is it not...?) morning's deep-dive into this forum. Now onto the deck (the garden, that is) The weather is terribly nice here now. Like sunbathing on the deck West of Freetown.....:cool:...

[Paul Riley]

Its sunny here too.Whats the temperature like up in Norway mate?,i'm surprised its hot and sunny.Wonder if the Vikings ever sunbathed on their longboats,and drank lemonade instead of beer? :D ...yeah right :arrgh!:

[Leandros]

Its sunny here too.Whats the temperature like up in Norway mate?,i'm surprised its hot and sunny.Wonder if the Vikings ever sunbathed on their longboats,and drank lemonade instead of beer? :D ...yeah right :arrgh!:
They emigrated because it was too hot. That's why they settled on Greenland.....:03:....