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Skybird
05-23-09, 09:11 AM
In the US, since longer there is an energy drink named "Cocain".
In Germany, more and more federal states are prohibiting rivaling energy drink "Red Bull" and enforce that RB is being taken off the shelves. Chemical analysis showed that amongst it's ingredients are small amounts of cocain - not the drink of that name, but the drug.
:D
Do you still live, or are you already flying?
Jimbuna
05-23-09, 10:02 AM
I have decided to produce and sell a strong alcoholic drink called "Responsibly"
That way everyone in the country can get sh!t faced drinking responsibly.
And all the other drinks makers will be advertising for me on their cans with the slogan "please drink responsibly"
Probably will piss off the government as well. :DL
Frame57
05-23-09, 12:26 PM
I find nothing wrong with that at all. Small amounts of the derivitive from the Coca plant is actually quite beneficial. The natives use it medicinally and like all stimulants in excess can be harmfull and addictive.But what is not?
XabbaRus
05-23-09, 12:52 PM
Do you have a source for this Sky?
Etienne
05-23-09, 01:30 PM
Didn't Coca-Cola have some trace amount of coke in it until recently?
What's the big deal?
(Beside, I've seen people on coke and I've seen people on Red Bull. Not the same thing. At all.)
Didn't Coca-Cola have some trace amount of coke in it until recently?
1929 Coca-Cola was cocain free says Snopes.
http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp
Skybird
05-23-09, 04:02 PM
Do you have a source for this Sky?
Various German newspapers. For example:
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article3790081/Weitere-Laender-verbieten-Red-Bull-wegen-Kokain.html
Currently, RB gets officially classified as a narcotic, and a violation to current food-law. However, the main issue about RB is not that it is considered to be a serious risk to health, but violating these laws. I personally consider the ammount of phosphate in Coca Cola as more health-threatening (and as a health risk: widely underestimated). But good for me that I hate the taste of RB - and most softdrinks - anyway, with the exception of Cola.
It's so bad that Coca Cola tastes so good. Both that ridiculous amount of white sugar and of phosphate make it a really bad thing. Why must the healthy things often be so boring in taste, more expensive and taking longer time to prepare, and the easy, cheap, tasty things often so bad for your health?
Kapitan_Phillips
05-23-09, 04:16 PM
Red Bull gives you wings.
Cocaine gives you:
http://www.horroria.com/i/nstills/06/70/670/670-241766.jpg
Michelle Pfeiffer.
Wait..what? :doh:
Highbury
05-23-09, 08:44 PM
It's so bad that Coca Cola tastes so good. Both that ridiculous amount of white sugar and of phosphate make it a really bad thing. Why must the healthy things often be so boring in taste, more expensive and taking longer time to prepare, and the easy, cheap, tasty things often so bad for your health?
Coca Cola does not use white sugar, I worked at the Richmond, BC. CCE (Coca Cola Enterprises) plant for 14 years. Depending on the market it is produced for it contains Fructose or Isoglucose (called High-Fructose corn syrup in the US). Nowhere do they use Sucrose (white sugar) alone.
As for the Red Bull issue in Germany, here is an article in English for those that could not read the other one:
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20090523-19457.html
kiwi_2005
05-23-09, 10:59 PM
Red Bull gives you wings.
Cocaine gives you:
http://www.horroria.com/i/nstills/06/70/670/670-241766.jpg
Michelle Pfeiffer.
Wait..what? :doh:
Gwad Michelle Pfeiffer was a babe back in the day, i seen her in a recent movie and she still looks good for her age.
Skybird
05-24-09, 05:22 AM
Coca Cola does not use white sugar, I worked at the Richmond, BC. CCE (Coca Cola Enterprises) plant for 14 years. Depending on the market it is produced for it contains Fructose or Isoglucose (called High-Fructose corn syrup in the US). Nowhere do they use Sucrose (white sugar) alone.
Yes, that turns it into a health drink! :D
Skybird
05-24-09, 05:38 AM
Fructose causes a slower rise of blood sugar, but regarding body fatness it is as critical as Saccharose, since it affects the body'S carbohydrate metabolsim for the negative, and gets transformed into fat even faster than Saccharose. Also, a significant part of the population cannot absorb fructose, or only insufficently, so that it gets accumulated in the intestine where it increases/feeds germ growth, which then has negative conseqeunces for the functionality and sensitivity of the immune-system.
Therefore, Fructose is demanded to be banned from public selling, activists even want it to be no longer classified as a type of food. The wide-spread belief that it is the "better sugar" and serves nice as a sugar-surrogate for diabetics, is wrong. Maybe that is becasue many people mix the meaning of fructose, glucose, sucrose wildly and do not really know the different meanings (I struggle myself, too).
Isoglucose is familiar to socalled invert sugar, that is saccharose that got split into glucose and fructose.
It'S running around words, even if there are differences: that does not make it any less damaging to health. I wish it would, but it doesn't.
Lesson learned: have soft drinks rarely only. I have maybe one bottle of Coca Cola Zero (sweetener) per month, maybe even less. But when I have, I enjoy it.
Lesson learned: have soft drinks rarely only. I have maybe one bottle of Coca Cola Zero (sweetener) per month, maybe even less. But when I have, I enjoy it.
Drinking large amounts of basically anything is detrimental to your health, hell drink enough water and you'll keel over.
Frame57
05-24-09, 12:45 PM
I know quite a few doctors in my profession as well as having gone through this. Kidney stones....Oh are they fun...Anyway, it appears that the carmel coloring in many products including colas cause kidney stones. Another reason to avoid cokes and pepsis if one has a disposition to that.
talesofvalor
05-24-09, 12:49 PM
I've also seen a drink called "Swiss Canabis".
Skybird
05-24-09, 12:58 PM
Drinking large amounts of basically anything is detrimental to your health, hell drink enough water and you'll keel over.What kind of wisdom should this be? Deleting any quality difference between consuming water when you're thirsty, and consuming tons of sugar?
Fatness in the west is spreading pandemic. and it is not about people eating too much, but eating the wrong kind of stuff. Sugar. Salt. Bad fats and oils. White flour. Too much meat. And not eating enough of what physiologically is needed: roughage/dietary fibre for example. Vegetable. Unreffined grain. Most industrial food, convenience food, should be labelled as poisenous and hazardous to your health. That's is no exaggeration, that is the simple truth. Fatness, diabetes, cardio-vascular diseases - all this witnesses that we are eating too bad food. And increasingly we find hints and evidence for typical diseases of higher age being influenced by bad diet habits as well: Parkinson, Altzheimer.
Blacklight
05-24-09, 01:31 PM
You can still buy Dr. Pepper from it's original plant made with the original recipe that uses cane sugar instead of corn syrup. :yeah:
FIREWALL
05-24-09, 01:35 PM
When in Mexico don't drink the water.
When in the mountains don't eat the yellow snow.
:rotfl:
Jimbuna
05-24-09, 01:57 PM
When in Mexico don't drink the water.
When in the mountains don't eat the yellow snow.
:rotfl:
Or anywhere else for that matter :hmmm:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5326/2155861819773413451b61e.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2155861819773413451b61e.jpg)
Skybird
05-24-09, 05:37 PM
You can still buy Dr. Pepper from it's original plant made with the original recipe that uses cane sugar instead of corn syrup. :yeah:
Chemically, cane sugar is no different to saccharose, it does the same kind of damage to your metabolism.
Corn syrup in German is glucose-fructose-syrup. Both substances make for over 90% of its content. what has to be criticised in consuming fructose (see above) and glucose, applies to this syrup, too. Glucose in industrial food and sweets is, like salt, so very omnipresent that we eat several times as much of it as is healthy or needed. This constant shift towards increaisng the hyperglycaemic index has it'S own health-risks.
Forget these many urban legends about the one kind of sugar being more healthy than the other. We eat several times too much of it, and that's why it makes most of us ill. Diabetes also is a new pandemic disease in western civilisations. Many people believe they are on the safe side rhen using cane sugar instead of white sugar, or when consuming dextrose (glucose). They are wrong. It's just cheating advertising.
And such advertising in my book is fulfilling the legal case of physical injury. Advertising for sweets should be banned like adverts for alcohol and tobacco, and for the same reasons.
THE MAN IS OUT TO GET US, Betta put on our tinfoil hats! :rotfl:
Also water here tastes like crud, so if you don't mind I'l put my life on the line for something tasty. Mmmhmm you can just taste that Phosphoric Acid :yeah:
As they say:
"Relax! You'll live longer! (Of course the soda probably offsets that) :rotfl:
Skybird
05-24-09, 06:12 PM
THE MAN IS OUT TO GET US, Betta put on our tinfoil hats! :rotfl:
Also water here tastes like crud, so if you don't mind I'l put my life on the line for something tasty. Mmmhmm you can just taste that Phosphoric Acid :yeah:
Drinking phosphoric acid in soft drinks regularly is proven in several studies to wekaen the bones' substance, because it melts with calcium from the bone's reservoir and by that forms a certain salt that is of no use for the body, but weakens the bones. American studies showed that youngsters drinking cola regularly and doing sports, suffer from broken bones three times as often as other juveniles doing sports, but not drinking cola. There is numerous hints and evidence that phosphporic acid also plays a role in several degenerating processes at higher age, that start as a result from consuming it too often.
the bad thing is that, like so oftebn, the coonsequences of your behavior do not always show up immediately, but maybe not before 20, 30, 40 years have passed. And then it is too late, of course.
I would recommend a regular 30 day-water-filter, like I use myself, becasue we have a very "hard" water with a high level of Kalk, which is a problem with kitchen machines. As a side effect it reduces the taste of chlorine (what makes your water tasting so bad) to a level that I cannot taste it anymore. If handled responsibly, these 30-days-filters are safe, regarding germs. I have my water in the refirgerator, where it stays both cold and dark - and that is good.
It's also much cheaper than constantly buying bottled water or softdrinks. I have no sympathy for families living by wellfare - but always that pack of cigarettes and bottles of softdrinks on the table, and often en masse.
Beyond all that, americans' awareness for food issues is said to be far more underdeveloped than in several european countries, and Germany, loike envrionmental awarenss also was lagging behind. Most prominent example probably is the uncritical acceptance of gene-food and simply beloieving what the interested industry is advertsiing about it's "harmlessness".
And tasteless MacDonalds, and Hamburgers, also are an American invention, brrrrr! :woot:Compared to that, Italy, Germany and even France are culinaric paradises. And the socalled mediterranean cuisine is probabaly the most healthy one of all our countries' cooking habits anyway.
Du bist, was du isst. Eat well, and your body is well. Eat crap, and your body becomes a piece of crap.
"Stop Quoting Statistics, We carry humor!"
Seriously though stop trying to tell people to live your way, if I really cared about my health that much I'd go to the bloody gym more often.
Internet doctors be sappin' mah enjoyment.
Skybird
05-24-09, 07:19 PM
Statistics can have their own humour. Black humour, in this case. :D If you're not careful, you will eat and laugh yourself to death.
Heh, before that happens my teeth will have rotted down to the gums. ;)
rubenandthejets
05-25-09, 12:45 AM
I remember back when I was at uni all the major soda companies were bringing out their "caffeine free" "low sugar" varieties to try to boost sales.
Bah! How am I supposed to do an all nighter on cafeine free, low sugar cola?
Luckily a small but very astute company brought out a new cola drink (this was a year or two before all the new gurana / taurine energy drinks hit the market) with DOUBLE the caffeine and DOUBLE the sugar of the most popular regular cola brand.
JOLT COLA!
I owe my double major with distinction to this company. About 10 times cheaper than affagatos and hence affordfable on my student allowance.
Moderation is for monks! TAKE BIG BITES! :rock:
Now, where are my cigars and tequila?
Frame57
05-25-09, 11:39 PM
I remember back when I was at uni all the major soda companies were bringing out their "caffeine free" "low sugar" varieties to try to boost sales.
Bah! How am I supposed to do an all nighter on cafeine free, low sugar cola?
Luckily a small but very astute company brought out a new cola drink (this was a year or two before all the new gurana / taurine energy drinks hit the market) with DOUBLE the caffeine and DOUBLE the sugar of the most popular regular cola brand.
JOLT COLA!
I owe my double major with distinction to this company. About 10 times cheaper than affagatos and hence affordfable on my student allowance.
Moderation is for monks! TAKE BIG BITES! :rock:
Now, where are my cigars and tequila?I used to get two jolt colas and put them in my thermos with ice and then top it off with a couple of shots of espresso and out the door i went. Can't find jolt anymore...:nope:
Kapitan_Phillips
05-26-09, 04:32 AM
http://mendax.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/nuka-cola.png
Nuka-Cola for that extra kick of radiation? :rotfl:
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