Naval History

[SUBMAN1]

Naval History

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The U.S.S. Constitution (Old Ironsides) as a combat vessel carried 48,600
gallons of fresh water for her crew of 475 officers and men. This was
sufficient to last six months of sustained operations at sea. She carried no
evaporators (fresh water distillers).

However, let it be noted that according to her log, \"On July 27, 1798, the
U.S.S. Constitution sailed from Boston with a full complement of 475
officers and men, 48,600 gallons of fresh water, 7,400 cannon shot, 11,600
pounds of black powder and 79,400 gallons of rum.\"

Her mission: \"To destroy and harass English shipping.\"

Making Jamaica on 6 October, she took on 826 pounds of flour and 68,300
gallons of rum.

Then she headed for the Azores, arriving there 12 November. She provisioned
with 550 pounds of beef and 64,300 gallons of Portuguese wine. On 18
November, she set sail for England.

In the ensuing days she defeated five British men-of-war and captured and
scuttled 12 English merchantmen, salvaging only the rum aboard each.

By 26 January, her powder and shot were exhausted. Nevertheless, and though
unarmed, she made a night raid up the Firth of Clyde in Scotland. Her
landing party captured a whiskey distillery and transferred 40,000 gallons
of single malt Scotch aboard by dawn.

Then she headed home.

The U.S.S. Constitution arrived in Boston on 20 February 1799, with no
cannon shot, no food, no powder, NO rum, NO wine, NO whiskey and 38,600
gallons of stagnant water.

GO NAVY!

[sunvalleyslim]

Now thats how to keep morale up on a ship...........:salute::salute:

[Tribesman]

Naval History

Are you sure ?

However, let it be noted that according to her log, \"On July 27, 1798, the
U.S.S. Constitution sailed from Boston with a full complement of 475
officers and men, 48,600 gallons of fresh water, 7,400 cannon shot, 11,600
pounds of black powder and 79,400 gallons of rum.\"

Her mission: \"To destroy and harass English shipping.\"

:har::har::har::har::har::har:

[Jimbuna]

Sounds like a rum runner to me :DL

A crackin history :up:

[Tribesman]

A crackin history
Apart from the fact its a very poor attempt at fabrication .
For starers it sailed against French shipping , it refitted three times in that period in American ports , it defeated no british men of war (apart from one in a race as a bet between the two captains), it didn't capture and scuttle any British merchantment though it did detain one British ship by mistake which meant they had to release it and pay compensation for the disruption of the ships passage .

So subman , I know you have this thing with crazy conspiracies , but where on earth did you dig that tripe up from ?

[Bewolf]

:rotfl:

I think to yarn cock and bull stories is part of seamanship since the very beginning. In that old and artistic tradition, this story certainly ranks high up :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Apart from the fact its a very poor attempt at fabrication .
For starers it sailed against French shipping , it refitted three times in that period in American ports , it defeated no british men of war (apart from one in a race as a bet between the two captains), it didn't capture and scuttle any British merchantment though it did detain one British ship by mistake which meant they had to release it and pay compensation for the disruption of the ships passage .

So subman , I know you have this thing with crazy conspiracies , but where on earth did you dig that tripe up from ?

Ahem.....check out the following naval ship histories:

HMS GUERRIERE
HMS JAVA
HMS CYANE
HMS LEVANT

Or simply visit here:

http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/history.htm

[Tribesman]

Ahem.....check out the following naval ship histories:

Ahem , wrong century:rotfl:
On July 27, 1798....20 February 1799 .
So from the website link you provided
USS CONSTITUTION was not engaged in battle with any warship

[Jimbuna]

I'm not referring to the OP regarding precise dates but more in support of the fact she did in fact engage and defeat Royal Naval vessels during her career. :DL

If I'm to be totally honest I never looked at the dates :hmmm:

I know SUBMAN1 too well of old :03:

[Tribesman]

I'm not referring to the OP regarding precise dates but more in support of the fact she did in fact engage and defeat Royal Naval vessels during her career
Yes , and indeed the Constitution did do some marvelous feats in her career , but to ingore those feats and instead invent some and falsly attribute the feats of other ships to the Constitution shows such a lack of objectivity as well as complete disrespect to the real achievements of the United States navy , so that one has to wonder which particular fruitloop website Subman got his info from

[Jimbuna]

Yes , and indeed the Constitution did do some marvelous feats in her career , but to ingore those feats and instead invent some and falsly attribute the feats of other ships to the Constitution shows such a lack of objectivity as well as complete disrespect to the real achievements of the United States navy , so that one has to wonder which particular fruitloop website Subman got his info from

Oh don't be so harsh on him, your probably only giving him more reason to yank yer chain :DL

Your much better off replying in kind with something along the lines:

The US and British Navy were recently on manoeuvres in the Persian gulf. The communications officer on the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise sent a radio message to the British carrier HMS Illustrious: "And how's the second biggest Navy in the world today then?"
To which the Illustrious officer responded: "Fine. How's the second best?"

The USS Enterprise did not reply.

[Tribesman]

If I was going to go along those lines jimbuna I would have done the one about the US task force saying over the radio that they are the mighty force on course and that vessel with that bloody big light in front of them had better get out of the way or pay the price of trying to stand in the way of the worlds greatest navy....at which point the lighthouse replied "come on big fella , try and have a go if you think you're hard enough"

[SUBMAN1]

Tribesman, you seems a little on the uptight side. You need a vacation before you blow a fuse.

And if you must know, i got it from a friend who is an ex F-4 Phantom pilot - Navy. We had a couple laughs so I figured I'd share. He was complaining about the lack of rum when he was in the service.

Bewolf obviously gets it. I doubt you ever will.

-S

[Tribesman]

He was complaining about the lack of rum when he was in the service
Yeah its a long time since 1862 .
Tribesman, you seems a little on the uptight side.
I'm on the wrong forum , while I like subs I prefer sails and since the 1812 war is my favourite conflict I objest to misreprestatiopn of those events (but that noramally centers round New Orleans) , especially falsifying them or in this case completely falsifying and transposing .
Your topic should have been " a seamans fable" not naval history.
You need a vacation before you blow a fuse.

:har: Galway is a vacation , its why I moved back here

[SUBMAN1]

I proved my point. Point being - Lighten up Already! :D

-S

[clive bradbury]

Simply as a point of fact, the 'second best' navy quote was a signal by Lord Mountbatten to a USN ship visiting Malta in the 1940s or 50s. I suppose it may have been oft used since, but that was the source of the witticism.

[Sailor Steve]

I proved my point. Point being - Lighten up Already! :D

-S
Exactly what point was that?

[SUBMAN1]

Exactly what point was that?

You can't read? Read what you quoted once more. Might help you understand to take a second look.

-S

[mookiemookie]

If they captured 40,000 gallons of single malt in Scotland on Jan 26th, and then arrived home with no liquor on Feb 20th, that means each of the 475 men would have had to drink 3.36 GALLONS of scotch a day to drink it all up in 25 days.

[Jimbuna]

If they captured 40,000 gallons of single malt in Scotland on Jan 26th, and then arrived home with no liquor on Feb 20th, that means each of the 475 men would have had to drink 3.36 GALLONS of scotch a day to drink it all up in 25 days.

Now if it had been rum I might have believed it :DL


http://www.abfnet.com/forum/images/smilies/pirate_with_bottle_of_rum_lg_blk.gif

But not that Scottish paint stripper they call whiskey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/sickpup.gif

[Sailor Steve]

You can't read? Read what you quoted once more. Might help you understand to take a second look.

-S
A your point was to have some good fun! That certainly excuses posting a lie and calling it Naval History. Of course Naval History is my favorite thing in the whole universe, so please pardon me if I don't get it the first time around.

I don't know if Jim's yarn is true, but the one misquoted by Tribesman is one of the oldest BS stories I know. I especially love it when they try to qualify it with "This comes from official records!"

[Jimbuna]

I don't know if Jim's yarn is true,

Debatable...but seeing as I got it from a humour forum :hmmm:

....possibly not :DL