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Rockstar
04-28-09, 05:53 PM
America alone or is it next? The 4th beast rises.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU)


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Platapus
04-28-09, 06:57 PM
Thats pretty funny :)

Overall I think it is better for the population of the world to decrease to a level where our resources can sustain it.

Freiwillige
04-28-09, 08:10 PM
Do not try and confuse me with the facts! Everythings okay, Europe is safe, nothing to see here. Move along, Move along.:o

August
04-28-09, 08:18 PM
I lost interest before the opening credits were done. Somebody want to post the cliff notes?

UnderseaLcpl
04-28-09, 08:26 PM
We'll never win the population war against the Muslims. The simple fact of the matter is that they have subservient women who (in many cases) are not allowed to talk back and whose faces can be covered when necessary.:DL
We'll never beat them unless we adopt similar measures.:up:

Aramike
04-28-09, 08:38 PM
I lost interest before the opening credits were done. Somebody want to post the cliff notes?Ditto.

Platapus
04-28-09, 08:48 PM
I lost interest before the opening credits were done. Somebody want to post the cliff notes?

Because the christians have stopped phuckin and them muslims keep on phuckin soon the EU will be up to their a$$ in muslim kids and not good ole fashioned christian kids.

Take away point: If you is a christian you better gets busy phuckin despite the overpopulation of the world. If the world is gonna starve, it will be better to have christians starve then them pesky muslims.

That's pretty much it. You saved your self a bit of wasted time not looking the entire video.:doh::doh::doh::rotfl:

August
04-28-09, 09:12 PM
Because the christians have stopped phuckin and them muslims keep on phuckin soon the EU will be up to their a$$ in muslim kids and not good ole fashioned christian kids.

Take away point: If you is a christian you better gets busy phuckin despite the overpopulation of the world. If the world is gonna starve, it will be better to have christians starve then them pesky muslims.

That's pretty much it. You saved your self a bit of wasted time not looking the entire video.:doh::doh::doh::rotfl:


Thank you for the excellent summation Platapus! :up:

Happy Times
04-29-09, 12:44 AM
The video was from Christian fundamentalists but the message was still mostly correct.
My concern isnt that Europe will just fall under demographics, it wont.
Large scale civil wars will be the end result and we know how that will end up.
Thats the reason i am against this madness, why goverments go down this path when the end result is clear.
It drives me mad.:damn:

Tribesman
04-29-09, 02:28 AM
The video was from Christian fundamentalists but the message was still mostly correct.

Mostly correct ????? what a pile of crap , Belgium 25% muslim:rotfl:
Are they confusing Muslims with atheists

Happy Times
04-29-09, 03:05 AM
Mostly correct ????? what a pile of crap , Belgium 25% muslim:rotfl:
Are they confusing Muslims with atheists

Thats true, "only" 7% of the population of Belgium is muslim.
25% of the population of the capital city of Brussels is muslim.

I would never accept that the Finnish capital would be 25% muslim.

Happy Times
04-29-09, 03:51 AM
This is the Gaddafi speech about taking over Europe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjJ_d04aUiE

Bewolf
04-29-09, 04:32 AM
That is one curious european phenomenon. The less foreigners live in certain parts of europe, the more afraid are are folks of foreigners. And vice versa.

XabbaRus
04-29-09, 05:25 AM
Hmmm, paranoid rantings.

Jimbuna
04-29-09, 05:38 AM
Time for another crusade. :hmmm:

http://www.kelticklankirk.com/templar_knight_crusaders_in_battle_33.jpg

Dimitrius07
04-29-09, 06:15 AM
Paranoid.... i think i agree with that, but before making final judgement about the subject maybe its a right time to remember place like Lebanon.

Spoon 11th
04-29-09, 04:03 PM
Thats true, "only" 7% of the population of Belgium is muslim.
25% of the population of the capital city of Brussels is muslim.

I would never accept that the Finnish capital would be 25% muslim.

Rly? Whatcha gonna do? Change the capital when Helsinki reaches 25% in few decades assuming we keep building houses for these muslim ******s and muslim sand ******s?

Platapus
04-29-09, 04:16 PM
Spoon 11th

Please don't use that sort of language here.

geetrue
04-29-09, 04:24 PM
We'll never win the population war against the Muslims. The simple fact of the matter is that they have subservient women who (in many cases) are not allowed to talk back and whose faces can be covered when necessary.:DL
We'll never beat them unless we adopt similar measures.:up:

Sure we will just stop using birth control ...

You know how many welfare moms this country has?

My son has three children all with differnt mothers ...

We'll catch up :yeah:

Onkel Neal
04-29-09, 05:09 PM
Rly? Whatcha gonna do? Change the capital when Helsinki reaches 25% in few decades assuming we keep building houses for these muslim ******s and muslim sand ******s?

Please don't use racial slurs here.

Freiwillige
04-29-09, 07:45 PM
Who can honestly say that the western world has any chance of survival? 10% of the entire planet is European stock. That 10% isnt even having enough offspring to maintain that 10% while the other 90% is far exceeding their current rate. you can see that it does not take a mathmatician to see the writing on the wall.

Europe R.I.P.:nope:

Kapitan_Phillips
04-29-09, 08:25 PM
Hey August! Toss me one of the flak guns you keep in your attic :03: :haha:

August
04-29-09, 08:36 PM
Hey August! Toss me one of the flak guns you keep in your attic :03: :haha:

Do the Muslims have an air force? :)

Kapitan_Phillips
04-29-09, 08:42 PM
Do the Muslims have an air force? :)

Do magic carpets count?:06: ;)

August
04-29-09, 09:11 PM
Do magic carpets count?:06: ;)

It'd be the blitz all over again!

Freiwillige
04-29-09, 09:22 PM
Soon they will have ours:salute:

Kapitan_Phillips
04-29-09, 09:31 PM
It'd be the blitz all over again!

*dusts off the Spitfire* :yeah:

Torplexed
04-29-09, 09:59 PM
Wellll..at least they like classic games. :D

http://neptoon.homestead.com/All-your-Base.jpg

Janus
04-30-09, 03:17 AM
^^ :har:

Kapitan_Phillips
04-30-09, 03:34 AM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2n8r5ds.jpg

:o

Dowly
04-30-09, 04:00 AM
I would never accept that the Finnish capital would be 25% muslim.

Amen to that.

Jimbuna
04-30-09, 04:04 AM
It can't all be that bad....some obviously still believe in Santa http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/santa.gif

http://atatude.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/peace3.jpg

antikristuseke
04-30-09, 04:23 AM
Who can honestly say that the western world has any chance of survival? 10% of the entire planet is European stock. That 10% isnt even having enough offspring to maintain that 10% while the other 90% is far exceeding their current rate. you can see that it does not take a mathmatician to see the writing on the wall.

Europe R.I.P.:nope:

Because birth rates are allways at a constant and never subject to change. Nothing ever changes, all things are linear.:shifty:

Jimbuna
04-30-09, 04:51 AM
It'd be the blitz all over again!

Watch out for the cleverly disguised V1's


http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3075/imamrockettx8.gif

rubenandthejets
04-30-09, 06:52 AM
When things get really tough, just repeat this simple phrase:

"Illah el Allah e Mahommed razul Allawi". There is only one god, He is God and Mahommed is His prophet.

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

OneToughHerring
04-30-09, 07:00 AM
Americans are building concentration camps for Europeans and everyone who does not agree with them, Guantanamo was a 'test camp' like Treblinka. The main torture & extermination camp has not yet been revealed.

August
04-30-09, 07:41 AM
Americans are building concentration camps for Europeans and everyone who does not agree with them, Guantanamo was a 'test camp' like Treblinka. The main torture & extermination camp has not yet been revealed.

Don't worry Herring. From time to time i'll slip ya some food through the fence while i'm walking the Alsatians. :up:

onelifecrisis
04-30-09, 08:18 AM
1) There is a difference between a predominantly Muslim Europe and a Europe of predominantly Muslim descent. The latter is what I think we'll end up with.

2) Many Muslims come to Europe from democratic nations, and others have come (or rather, they have run) from nations that are not democratic.

3) I'll come back later when I've thought of a third point.

antikristuseke
04-30-09, 08:20 AM
Americans are building concentration camps for Europeans and everyone who does not agree with them, Guantanamo was a 'test camp' like Treblinka. The main torture & extermination camp has not yet been revealed.

Are you trying to out crazy SUBMAN1 in the conspiracy theory competition?

Freiwillige
04-30-09, 08:44 AM
Because birth rates are allways at a constant and never subject to change. Nothing ever changes, all things are linear.:shifty:

Birth rates are ever changing. The average American family had 4.8 children in the 1940's. By 1980 that nuber was halved.

Germany had large family's pre-WWII and now small or no family's.

Birth rates are affected by many variables in a country. Cultural, Social and economic to name a few. With the destruction of the traditional family lifestyle in the western world its no wonder birth rates are low. In this day and age everything is sold as more important than the traditional family structure. More women want careers and forgo child birth all together.

The assault on traditional family values has born rotten fruit. We have made ourselves a big crap sandwich and we all muxt take a bite.

OneToughHerring
04-30-09, 08:45 AM
Are you trying to out crazy SUBMAN1 in the conspiracy theory competition?

Following the economic articles in magazines like Financial Times, Bloomberg, etc. I constantly keep reading comments by US financial analysts about, among others, Estonia and their country and their economy. These comments pretty much border on racism, they pretty much directly say that the Estonians can't handle their economy or their country and are a nation of simpletons like the other bankrupt Baltic and other east European nations. The "new Argentina" was the expression they often used.

Personally I don't agree with them and think they are way out of line but I can't really stop them from saying stuff like that.

antikristuseke
04-30-09, 09:13 AM
What the f does that have to do with anything?

First concentration camps now Estonian economic state?

OneToughHerring
04-30-09, 10:05 AM
What the f does that have to do with anything?

First concentration camps now Estonian economic state?

You'd be surprised how close the ties of economics and war are. I'm sure you'll learn though. Let me put it this way, I would not want US to make threats against my country. But if you are fine with them making threats against your country, that's fine by me.

antikristuseke
04-30-09, 10:21 AM
I fully realize the ties between economics and war. That being said, the US is not making threats towards my country, unless you have noticed we are allied with the bloody US.

Now, please explain, what the bloody hell does this have to do with the suposed concentration camps which you asserted to exist. While on the subject, provide some bloody evidence for your BS.

OneToughHerring
04-30-09, 10:41 AM
I fully realize the ties between economics and war. That being said, the US is not making threats towards my country, unless you have noticed we are allied with the bloody US.

Now, please explain, what the bloody hell does this have to do with the suposed concentration camps which you asserted to exist. While on the subject, provide some bloody evidence for your BS.

What, you mean evidence in addition to the millions dead and tortured from their wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world since 2001? I guess not all people are of equal value.

antikristuseke
04-30-09, 10:46 AM
Seriously, dude, what the f?

How in the name of f are the numerous dead in the wars of Afghanistan and Iraq evidence for concentration camps for europeans in any way, shape or form?

You are making no sense, unless you start doing so I will concider you to be trolling this thread and will not reply to you any more.

AVGWarhawk
04-30-09, 10:49 AM
Take deep breaths men. This is not worth getting worked up over.

clive bradbury
04-30-09, 11:39 AM
One point that the 'muslim menace' scaremongerers overlook is the dilution of religious extremism generated by Western European society. I think this is also in effect in the US, but possibly less so. Let me explain.

The pattern in Western Europe over the past century or so in inescapable - increased freedom makes societies more secular. There are a lot of varied reasons for this which I do not propose to go into, but the effect is not in doubt. This is clearly relected in the increase in the number of atheists and agnostics in those societies. Combine this with many others who claim to be christian, but never attend church, which effectively means they are non-practising and therefore effectively secular too.

Unlike the scaremongerers, many of whom wouldn't recognise a muslim if they fell over one, I know many muslims who have been part of English society for a long time. Interestingly, the trend towards secularism is present there, too. They do not pray twice a day, many don't pray twice a week, don't attend mosques, and observance of muslim festivals is also in the decline in such groups.

I have no definitive proof, but mark my words, western democracy is considerably more robust that most people think it is. It is religious doctrine in all denominations which is under far greater threat in the long run, and it it precisely the fear of this that encourages religious extremism. Thus the radicals should not be viewed as an unstoppable force which will destroy western society, but as the last gasp of an outdated ideology struggling against their own inevitable decline.

Take a look at the long term from say 1880 or so - the trend is inescapable - the secular west is winning the fight.

August
04-30-09, 12:01 PM
Sorry Clive, you don't have to attend church to be a practicing Christian. You do have to attend church to be a practicing Catholic or a practicing (insert Christian religious sect here) but not to just be a Christian.

OneToughHerring
04-30-09, 01:35 PM
Seriously, dude, what the f?

How in the name of f are the numerous dead in the wars of Afghanistan and Iraq evidence for concentration camps for europeans in any way, shape or form?

You are making no sense, unless you start doing so I will concider you to be trolling this thread and will not reply to you any more.

I think it is a sad state of affairs in Estonia and also in the rest of the Baltic nations. These countries do not IMO have to be the leaders in murders, robberies, etc. The US-led world powers have enough wealth to fix the problems in the Baltic nations many times over but decide not to do so.

Finns haven't done much to help Estonia, they mostly use Estonia as a cheap place to get alcohol and prostitutes from. Now I don't blame Estonia for this, I blame the Finns.

As for the concentration camps, what is a concentration camp. It is a place where the prisoners don't have any rights. They can be tortured and also killed. The US has had concentration camps throughout it's existence. And you are going to guarantee that nothing of that sort has not happened and will not happen?

clive bradbury
04-30-09, 02:20 PM
I know, August, but what I meant was that many people who say that they are Christians are actually stating that they believe in a god, as opposed to being atheist or agnostic. To all intents and purposes they are conducting their lives in a secular manner. By that I mean that they do not practise their religion in private, either, if you see what I mean.

Perhaps I'm not explaining my point too well, but I'm talking about the sort of person who would state 'christianity' as their religion in a survey, but no more read the bible or pray than I do. Maybe different in the US, as I stated at the start of my argument above, but that is very common over here. The main point being that religion does not play an active part in their lives, nor do they see it as a part of who they are as people. Obviously I am generalising, but do you see the idea?

What this means is that to view the number of Christians in the UK, as measured by the National Census, for example, is actually overstating the real numbers in practice (in both senses of that word), to the extent that the secularisation of the UK and Western Europe is highly likely to be far greater in reality than the statistics show.

Max2147
04-30-09, 02:34 PM
Americans are building concentration camps for Europeans and everyone who does not agree with them, Guantanamo was a 'test camp' like Treblinka. The main torture & extermination camp has not yet been revealed.
I hereby nominate this for the Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf Unintentional Comedy Post of the Year.

heartc
04-30-09, 02:35 PM
Sorry Clive, you don't have to attend church to be a practicing Christian. You do have to attend church to be a practicing Catholic or a practicing (insert Christian religious sect here) but not to just be a Christian.

Amen.

clive bradbury
04-30-09, 02:55 PM
See my above point, heartc. But this is a minor point of contention which is distracting from the main thrust of the argument. By any measure you care to use, Western Europe is continuing to head in the direction of secularity which began in the 19th century, and the general picture is that, for want of a better phrase, that the fundamentalism of religious groups incorporated into those states are gradually being diluted as a result. Gradually the followers of a religion tend to move towards a less rabid position, and increasingly away from religion altogether. Whether you believe that to be a good or bad thing, that does appear to be happening.

The problem is, of course, that this is not good copy, so the media would far rather put fundamentalists and supporters of terrorism within those states on their front pages, which tends to perpetuate inaccurate perceptions at the expense of what is actually occurring.

August
04-30-09, 04:20 PM
See my above point, heartc. But this is a minor point of contention which is distracting from the main thrust of the argument. By any measure you care to use, Western Europe is continuing to head in the direction of secularity which began in the 19th century, and the general picture is that, for want of a better phrase, that the fundamentalism of religious groups incorporated into those states are gradually being diluted as a result. Gradually the followers of a religion tend to move towards a less rabid position, and increasingly away from religion altogether. Whether you believe that to be a good or bad thing, that does appear to be happening.

The problem is, of course, that this is not good copy, so the media would far rather put fundamentalists and supporters of terrorism within those states on their front pages, which tends to perpetuate inaccurate perceptions at the expense of what is actually occurring.

I see your point but a native European has a lot of other non religious social and cultural ties that bind him to his country/region whereas an immigrant from a non European country does not. This might make the immigrant more likely to cling to his culture and religion.

trekchu
04-30-09, 04:55 PM
I think it is a sad state of affairs in Estonia and also in the rest of the Baltic nations. These countries do not IMO have to be the leaders in murders, robberies, etc. The US-led world powers have enough wealth to fix the problems in the Baltic nations many times over but decide not to do so.

Finns haven't done much to help Estonia, they mostly use Estonia as a cheap place to get alcohol and prostitutes from. Now I don't blame Estonia for this, I blame the Finns.

As for the concentration camps, what is a concentration camp. It is a place where the prisoners don't have any rights. They can be tortured and also killed. The US has had concentration camps throughout it's existence. And you are going to guarantee that nothing of that sort has not happened and will not happen?

What in the blazes are you on about? How does anything you have said have something to do with concentration camps? :damn:

Note: No one denies it has happened. It most likely will not happen again in Europe.

Also, have you ever thought that maybe perhaps Europeans might not go into your "camps" like sheep? Perhaps no one has told you, but countries outside of the US also have organized militaries.

trekchu
04-30-09, 04:59 PM
I hereby nominate this for the Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf Unintentional Comedy Post of the Year.

Can I sig both these?

OneToughHerring
04-30-09, 05:06 PM
What in the blazes are you on about? How does anything you have said have something to do with concentration camps? :damn:

Note: No one denies it has happened. It most likely will not happen again in Europe.

Also, have you ever thought that maybe perhaps Europeans might not go into your "camps" like sheep? Perhaps no one has told you, but countries outside of the US also have organized militaries.

Are you reading with your eyes or like, using the force like Luke Skywalker? I'm talking about US concentration/extermination camps, as a German I'm sure you know what I mean when I talk about concentration camps, work camps and extermination camps. They are different things, you know.

And as much as I'd like to believe that European militaries have any kind of significance in the future, I am very sceptical that they will. It's just Finns and Greeks who have any real type of militaries based on a proper conscription, the rest of Europe has already chickened out.Through NATO US is able to give orders to any European nation that belongs to it. Already European NATO-countries are losing soldiers in the disastrous debacle that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are.

Thomen
04-30-09, 05:14 PM
Are you reading with your eyes or like, using the force like Luke Skywalker? I'm talking about US concentration/extermination camps, as a German I'm sure you know what I mean when I talk about concentration camps, works camps and extermination camps. They are different things, you know.

What are you saying? THEY are after me? :shifty:

Thomen
04-30-09, 05:23 PM
And as much as I'd like to believe that European militaries have any kind of significance in the future, I am very sceptical that they will. It's just Finns and Greeks who have any real type of militaries based on a proper conscription, the rest of Europe has already chickened out.

You are aware that conscripts are more reluctant to fight than lets say volunteer armies, especially in modern warfare where it gets more and more expansive to train and maintain standing armies?

You might consider the Finnish Defense Forces proper armed forces, but unfortunately, and no disrespect to our resident Finns, you can't do much with just 37,000 active soldiers and 350,000 reservists in modern warfare (if you are being invaded that is). Unless you plan to use them all up in Guerrilla Warfare where you basically can say 'good bye' to all your heavy weapons and hope that your enemies get fed up with this before you run out of men.

trekchu
04-30-09, 05:26 PM
Are you reading with your eyes or like, using the force like Luke Skywalker? I'm talking about US concentration/extermination camps, as a German I'm sure you know what I mean when I talk about concentration camps, work camps and extermination camps. They are different things, you know.

And as much as I'd like to believe that European militaries have any kind of significance in the future, I am very sceptical that they will. It's just Finns and Greeks who have any real type of militaries based on a proper conscription, the rest of Europe has already chickened out.Through NATO US is able to give orders to any European nation that belongs to it. Already European NATO-countries are losing soldiers in the disastrous debacle that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are.


*forces himself to be polite*
Why yes, I do know the difference. As for insignificant and losses, US losses in Afghanistan would be even higher than they are now if our boys weren't there. Besides, in case you are even reading this: The US don't have conscription either! ( Yes, I know that it is just not used since the 70s ). Also, Germany still has it too.

EDIT: Further reading (http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/wars/a/draft2.htm)

Kapitan_Phillips
04-30-09, 07:17 PM
*forces himself to be polite*


Thanks.


Herring, caaalm yourself.

Max2147
04-30-09, 10:41 PM
Well, if the US wanted to take over Europe and put all its citizens in concentration camps, I suppose we might be able to do it. But....

WHY THE ******* WOULD WE WANT TO?!?!?!?!?

I mean, the US could invade Mexico tomorrow and exterminate its entire population. We could wipe out Australia with nukes. We could take over Uzbekistan, paint every one of their citizens green, and force them to dance the polka while making silly faces. But that doesn't mean we're about to do any of those things. It just makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

rubenandthejets
04-30-09, 10:53 PM
The US could try to nuke Australia...but there is an awful lot of country to cover. Besides, who would happily go off and die in their silly wars if the Australians weren' around to mindlessly and unquestioningly jump on the US bandwagon?

The Canadians?

August
04-30-09, 11:10 PM
Well, if the US wanted to take over Europe and put all its citizens in concentration camps, I suppose we might be able to do it. But....

WHY THE ******* WOULD WE WANT TO?!?!?!?!?

I mean, the US could invade Mexico tomorrow and exterminate its entire population. We could wipe out Australia with nukes. We could take over Uzbekistan, paint every one of their citizens green, and force them to dance the polka while making silly faces. But that doesn't mean we're about to do any of those things. It just makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.

You don't understand Max. Herring thinks we're doing all that stuff right now! :DL

Max2147
04-30-09, 11:15 PM
You don't understand Max. Herring thinks we're doing all that stuff right now! :DL
Where can I go see the green Uzbeks? This is exciting! :yeah:

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 04:36 AM
Europeans have already been held on US camps without trial, jury or lawyer and been tortured there. How many such camps are out there in the world? Do you know exactly? These camps are just the "1.0 version", there will be a "2.0 version".

There is a long tradition of US using torture and also 'outsourcing' the use of torture, everyone knows this. Executions have also occured, either directly by US or by it's mercenaries.

Germans must feel pretty bad now that their great country has been reduced to a minion of USA in NATO. One would think that they'd be tired of taking orders from entities outside their own nation. But hey, maybe it's just that German slave mentality that Nietzche spoke about.

HunterICX
05-01-09, 05:11 AM
:roll: Someone took a O.D in paranoia pills.

HunterICX

Skybird
05-01-09, 05:32 AM
I know, August, but what I meant was that many people who say that they are Christians are actually stating that they believe in a god, as opposed to being atheist or agnostic. To all intents and purposes they are conducting their lives in a secular manner. By that I mean that they do not practise their religion in private, either, if you see what I mean.

Perhaps I'm not explaining my point too well, but I'm talking about the sort of person who would state 'christianity' as their religion in a survey, but no more read the bible or pray than I do. Maybe different in the US, as I stated at the start of my argument above, but that is very common over here. The main point being that religion does not play an active part in their lives, nor do they see it as a part of who they are as people. Obviously I am generalising, but do you see the idea?

What this means is that to view the number of Christians in the UK, as measured by the National Census, for example, is actually overstating the real numbers in practice (in both senses of that word), to the extent that the secularisation of the UK and Western Europe is highly likely to be far greater in reality than the statistics show.

Unfortunetly we make the unpleasant observation in the UK, Germany, Netherlands that second and third generations in immigrant families are MORE orthodox Islamic, and at least in case of the Turks in Germany: also are more pro-nationalistic towards their family's original home country and more hostile to their hosting country. That throws a huge shadow on the stories of successfully integrating immigrants who meanwhile even have become a real memeber of our communities - these people also exist, right. But to say they are the rule and to ignore the other side means to tell only a half truth, and to ignore the unpleasant other side, because it is not wanted.

We have had even sociological studies quoted or lnked to over the recent three forum-years, showing this trend. And it is no new trend, by all means. Westerners tend to massively overestimate the changing power and convincing attraciton of Western society, especially when it comes to Islam. mayb eit would work that way if two conditions would be fulfilled: first, no new foriegners would constantly come in, constantly reviving the Islamic roots and background of Muslim communities in the West. And second, practically all Muslim countries sending their people to us to settle here, do not stay out of ourt internal politics, but massively interfere with them in order to establish strong nationalistic presences in our societies, and to prevent their people fallng to apostacy. Again, espeically Turkey is guilty of this kind of interference, and does not even hide it. erdogan'S visit to Germany and his outrageous behavior, was a scandal for which he should have been kicked out very undiplomatically.

BTW, I always thought that you abandoned the second chess match of ours, and right now wanted to pull your leg by asking for your next move. But now I checked back the old thread, and to my surprise I see that it is me whose last move is missing. However, in my old protocol, I have entered one. Has the forum software made my reply to you disappearing, maybe during a lag when sending it (lags haunt me on this forum quite frequently, and more than just a few posting went lost that way)? Want to continue? :)
However, I apologize, since the fault seems to have been on my side, I just found out. I had no intention to abandon the match in silence and just leave you behind. Somehow the story just - disappeared from my mind.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141556&highlight=chess+match

And the earlier one, for the sake of completion.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=141557&highlight=chess+match

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 05:47 AM
:roll: Someone took a O.D in paranoia pills.

HunterICX

Are you referring to the "all muslims are rats, let's exterminate them" - crowd?

trekchu
05-01-09, 08:35 AM
Germans must feel pretty bad now that their great country has been reduced to a minion of USA in NATO. One would think that they'd be tired of taking orders from entities outside their own nation. But hey, maybe it's just that German slave mentality that Nietzche spoke about.

WHAT THE *BlEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* *BLEEEEEP* *BLEEEEEEP*?

Minions eh, so why didn't these minions send their troops to Iraq?

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 09:07 AM
WHAT THE *BlEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP* *BLEEEEEP* *BLEEEEEEP*?

Minions eh, so why didn't these minions send their troops to Iraq?

Many did send, Germany sent troops to Afghanistan, and so did Finland.

Btw, don't burst a blood vessel, Germany will need all the blood it has to spill in USA's wars.

Morts
05-01-09, 09:29 AM
OTH, i find your comments hilarious:rotfl:
so much infact, that i cant take them serious

trekchu
05-01-09, 09:35 AM
Many did send, Germany sent troops to Afghanistan, and so did Finland.

Btw, don't burst a blood vessel, Germany will need all the blood it has to spill in USA's wars.

Yes, but not to Iraq. Essentially we told the Americans to go f**k themselves when they asked for German troops for Iraq. It is highly unlikely we will follow the Americans into any more wars.

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 09:36 AM
OTH, i find your comments hilarious:rotfl:
so much infact, that i cant take them serious

Well if you like good humour, here's a real Danish nature specialist, he is Danish like Morts. For all the non-Danish speakers, he speaks real Danish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gTAmzDlOc

Funny stuff, eh? :har:

Morts
05-01-09, 09:58 AM
Well if you like good humour, here's a real Danish nature specialist, he is Danish like Morts. For all the non-Danish speakers, he speaks real Danish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gTAmzDlOc

Funny stuff, eh? :har:
if they are trying to make fun of the danish language, they are doing a piss poor job at it;):rotfl::rotfl:

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 10:06 AM
if they are trying to make fun of the danish language, they are doing a piss poor job at it;):rotfl::rotfl:

Yes but look at the comments, Finnish people are finding it very amusing indeed after all these years since it was broadcast on Finnish television. I always refer to "Skigge Böy" when I hear Danish spoken, everyone knows what I mean. :DL

edit. They are not just making fun of Danish language but Danish people in general.

Morts
05-01-09, 10:10 AM
Yes but look at the comments, Finnish people are finding it very amusing indeed after all these years since it was broadcast on Finnish television. I always refer to "Skigge Böy" when I hear Danish spoken, everyone knows what I mean. :DL
i fail to see how its funny, this however...is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:16 AM
Well if you like good humour, here's a real Danish nature specialist, he is Danish like Morts. For all the non-Danish speakers, he speaks real Danish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_gTAmzDlOc

Funny stuff, eh? :har:

Ehm... No.

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 10:22 AM
i fail to see how its funny, this however...is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk

Yes but I think they are making too much of the differences there. You guys pretty much speak the same language. Finns on the other hand are outside of the Scandinavian language circle. Well not entirely since we are forced to learn a dialect of Swedish called Finnish-Swedish.

We Finns think it makes the rest of Scandinavia accept us as "part of them". How stupid we are.

trekchu,

what do you mean? It's ****ing hilarious. Or are you like the humour-Gestapo?

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:27 AM
trekchu,

what do you mean? It's ****ing hilarious. Or are you like the humour-Gestapo?

Short answer: No. Long answer **** no.



Extra long answer: No, I do not find this funny. Mainly because its not my sort of 'comedy', and because I know danish isn't like that.



This is Comedy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekiZYSVdeQ)

August
05-01-09, 10:30 AM
Yes, but not to Iraq. Essentially we told the Americans to go f**k themselves when they asked for German troops for Iraq. It is highly unlikely we will follow the Americans into any more wars.

Other than Afghanistan has Germany EVER followed the US into a war?

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:31 AM
Other than Afghanistan has Germany EVER followed the US into a war?


Not that I know of....

antikristuseke
05-01-09, 10:33 AM
humour-Gestapo?

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/54/picard_facepalm.jpg

UnderseaLcpl
05-01-09, 10:35 AM
This thread never fails to amuse:DL

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:35 AM
humour-Gestapo?

On a second note:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1244/godwinslawcatposter.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=godwinslawcatposter.jpg)

August
05-01-09, 10:37 AM
Not that I know of....


So just that one instance and now Herring calls you a minion? That's rich. :DL

antikristuseke
05-01-09, 10:41 AM
That is just one in a long line of nonsensical claims, August. The human mind is a truely amazing generator of randomness when all logical and critical thought processes are suspended.

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:42 AM
So just that one instance and now Herring calls you a minion? That's rich. :DL

By that logic Finland would be our minion because they followed us into Operation Barbarossa. :D

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 10:43 AM
Short answer: No. Long answer **** no.

Extra long answer: No, I do not find this funny. Mainly because its not my sort of 'comedy', and because I know danish isn't like that.

Well then it's too bad because Germany doesn't give orders to Finland anymore, you see those times were in the 40's and are no longer. Freedom of speech, and stuff? Any of this stuff ring a bell?

I also find it a little sad that Germans should find Monty Python and British humour funny considering how the Brits constantly deride the Germans and not in a particularily funny or benign way. But hey, have it your way.

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:45 AM
Well then it's too bad because Germany doesn't give orders to Finland anymore, you see those times were in the 40's and are no longer. Freedom of speech, and stuff? Any of this stuff ring a bell?

I also find it a little sad that Germans should find Monty Python and British humour funny considering how the Brits constantly deride the Germans and not in a particularily funny or benign way. But hey, have it your way.

So we are not allowed to find something funny when it comes from somewhere where they are making fun of us?


Freedom of Speech, riiiiiiight.

Max2147
05-01-09, 10:45 AM
Well then it's too bad because Germany doesn't give orders to Finland anymore, you see those times were in the 40's and are no longer. Freedom of speech, and stuff? Any of this stuff ring a bell?

I also find it a little sad that Germans should find Monty Python and British humour funny considering how the Brits constantly deride the Germans and not in a particularily funny or benign way. But hey, have it your way.
*Gasp* You mean some Germans are capable of laughing at themselves?

For what it's worth, Monty Python deride Brits way more than they deride ze Germans.

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:47 AM
*gasp* you mean some germans are capable of laughing at themselves?

For what it's worth, monty python deride brits way more than they deride ze germans.

amen brother!


EDIT: I am a huge Monty Python fan. Period.

Tribesman
05-01-09, 10:48 AM
Is that herring thoroughly pickled ?

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 10:50 AM
So we are not allowed to find something funny when it comes from somewhere where they are making fun of us?


Freedom of Speech, riiiiiiight.

Of course you can find it funny, I can assure you that the Brits are laughing more than you though.

What about freedom of speech? You have a problem with that portrayal of the Danish people?

trekchu
05-01-09, 10:51 AM
Of course you can find it funny, I can assure you that the Brits are laughing more than you though.

What about freedom of speech?

My problem with that post is that you seem to imply that Germans are unable to laugh at/about themselves.

August
05-01-09, 10:52 AM
Is that herring thoroughly pickled ?

Long ago, but I don't think the fish is self aware enough to see his pickling...

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 10:56 AM
My problem with that post is that you seem to imply that Germans are unable to laugh at/about themselves.

I never meant to imply that. What I said was that a lot of the British humour about Germans isn't always benign. Actually I think Germans are the most eager to laugh at themselves and therefore they often get duped by the Brits.

But hey, maybe that's just how things are. Germans messed up and therefore they have to pay the price, far into the future.

trekchu
05-01-09, 11:02 AM
I never meant to imply that. What I said was that a lot of the British humour about Germans isn't always benign. Actually I think Germans are the most eager to laugh at themselves and therefore they often get duped by the Brits.

But hey, maybe that's just how things are. Germans messed up and therefore they have to pay the price, far into the future.

What gives you that impression?


As for paying the price, humour aimed at other nationalities is be definition not begning. We are just advanced enough to still laugh about/ignore it.

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 11:08 AM
What gives you that impression?

As for paying the price, humour aimed at other nationalities is be definition not begning. We are just advanced enough to still laugh about/ignore it.

...but Finns are not allowed to make fun of the Danish, right?

Btw, here's another one, this one is about Swedes. Prepare yourself. :haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg

trekchu
05-01-09, 11:32 AM
...but Finns are not allowed to make fun of the Danish, right?

Btw, here's another one, this one is about Swedes. Prepare yourself. :haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg

Of course you are allowed to. But I am also allowed not to find it funny.

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 11:36 AM
Of course you are allowed to. But I am also allowed not to find it funny.

...and then what happens? You will sue me to the Hague war crimes tribunal? The same one that isn't being used to pass judgement on US war criminals.

Jimbuna
05-01-09, 11:53 AM
Looks like we're in for an eventful holiday weekend :hmmm:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6942/popcorncowtx0.gif

trekchu
05-01-09, 12:05 PM
...and then what happens? You will sue me to the Hague war crimes tribunal? The same one that isn't being used to pass judgement on US war criminals.

What the **** are you on about? What does this have to do with anything? You started with freedom of speech. A **** this. I am out of here.

antikristuseke
05-01-09, 12:09 PM
Looks like we're in for an eventful holiday weekend :hmmm:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6942/popcorncowtx0.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUH2OF8Y_8A

*Cocks a 12 gauge*

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 12:33 PM
What the **** are you on about? What does this have to do with anything? You started with freedom of speech. A **** this. I am out of here.

You know I don't think we will agree on a lot of things no matter how long we discuss. So maybe you're right.

Thomen
05-01-09, 12:44 PM
Retracted original post in light of OTH last post.

OTH.. the first sentence in the post above me gains your a lot more respect then trying to make a senseless argument. :up:

OneToughHerring
05-01-09, 12:55 PM
Thank you Thomen, I'm scanning your comment for sarcasm and it comes out clean. Although I've had a couple of beers in celebration of 1st of May so the sarcasm detector isn't running in full capacity. :)

To be honest maybe I shouldn't get into arguments about politics etc. Has happened before and it's mostly a futile thing, arguing on the Internet. I'm an easy target in that I put myself out there to try to defend what I think is right. I'm sure trekchu is not an evil person and I wasn't really even arguing with him.

Thomen
05-01-09, 01:05 PM
Thank you Thomen, I'm scanning your comment for sarcasm and it comes out clean. Although I've had a couple of beers in celebration of 1st of May so the sarcasm detector isn't running in full capacity. :)

To be honest maybe I shouldn't get into arguments about politics etc. Has happened before and it's mostly a futile thing, arguing on the Internet. I'm an easy target in that I put myself out there to try to defend what I think is right. I'm sure trekchu is not an evil person and I wasn't really even arguing with him.

No sarcasm in there. :up:
Well, I wouldn't say you are an easy target because you put yourself out there. It is how you do it that tends to get the negative reactions and might give an impression that you do not intent.

That said, staying out of political arguments is a good idea.. I try that, too.. but I still get suckered in from time to time. :shifty:

Kapitan_Phillips
05-01-09, 07:00 PM
That said, staying out of political arguments is a good idea.. I try that, too.. but I still get suckered in from time to time. :shifty:

You and me both :O: Though usually my contribution is of a comedic nature to diffuse the hot potatoes :up: