Star Trek Movie Not To Be Missed

[owner20071963]

Its here the Official Trailor,
Star Trek
Release date 8th of may 2009,
Not to be missed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScHxUopDlKc

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I cant wait!! :D

[Dowly]

I cant wait!! :D

Me neither!!!.... for it to flop! WAHAHAHA!!! :har:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Me neither!!!.... for it to flop! WAHAHAHA!!! :har:

Youd be used to things flopping eh :cool:


:haha:

[owner20071963]

I've seen more than this Trailor,
Trust me this will a be Huge hit,
The actors have signed for a Trilogy,
Lucas and Speilberg behind the effects,
This will be a Smash Hit :salute:

[rubenandthejets]

Wow!

Lucas and Speilberg, eh?

My favorites! I love everything they make! I can't wait!








not.

[Steel_Tomb]

I was pessimistic at first, but looking at those trailers... I cant wait to see it now!

[SteamWake]

Funny I had heard that Spielberg 'opted out' he wanted too much money. Guess that blew over.

[Onkel Neal]

Count me in. I don't think anyone can replace Shatner, Nimoy and Kelley, but I think it will be fun to watch.

After Trek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner)

Shatner did a number of television commercials for the Ontario, Canada based Loblaws supermarket chain in the 1970s, and finished the ad spots by saying, "At Loblaws, more than the price is right. But, by Gosh, the price is right."[15]
Shatner was an occasional celebrity guest on The $20,000 Pyramid in the 1970s, once appearing opposite Nimoy in a matchup billed as "Kirk vs. Spock". His appearances became far less frequent after a 1977 appearance, in which, after giving an illegal clue ("the blessed" for Things That Are Blessed) at the top of the pyramid ($200) which deprived the contestant of a big money win, he threw his chair out of the Winner's Circle.[16] He appeared on the Match Game, though he was never a regular on this program.
Shatner had a long dry spell in the decade between the original Star Trek series and the first Trek film, which he believes was due to his being typecast as Captain Kirk, making it difficult to find other work. Moreover, his wife Gloria Rand left him. With very little money and few acting prospects, he lived in a truck bed camper in the San Fernando Valley until acting bit-parts turned into higher paying roles. Shatner refers to this part of his life as "that period", a humbling one in which he would take any odd job, including small party appearances, to support his family. He also filmed a few episodes as a roving interviewer on a CBS Sports show that featured stunt actors.[citation needed] He did however land a starring role in the western-themed secret agent series Barbary Coast during 1975 and 1976, as well as a major role in the horror film The Devil's Rain. He also made guest appearances on many 1970s television series such as The Six Million Dollar Man, Columbo, The Rookies, Kung Fu and Mission: Impossible.



Un-bee-lee-vable! :o

[XabbaRus]

I saw a trailer at the cinema a couple of weeks ago and I was impressed. Defo going to see it.

[SUBMAN1]

Here is a review on it:

http://gizmodo.com/5226460/star-trek-review

-S

[Rhodes]

IGN also reviewed the film: http://movies.ign.com/articles/973/973956p1.html

For what I saw from a mini clip, the actor playing Bones tries to do it right!

IGN AU gives a diffrent opinion from the UK review :http://movies.ign.com/articles/974/974709p1.html

[owner20071963]

The Story is a bit like,
Batman Begins or
Bonds,Casino Royale,
Raw with true modern grit,
Young Kirk and Spock,
and how they became good friends,
Star Trek Prequel,
This movie will revive Star Trek,
and a New Generation fan base,
The start of maybe more than the Trilogy penned,
Lets hope :yeah:

[Falkirion]

Lucas and Speilberg behind the effects,

And that is why it will fail. Did you watch the PT? It was the biggest load of garbage Lucas has ever written, the man should not be allowed anywhere near his own creation.

He's beating his own franchise to death.

[longam]

The new website for the movie is cool and has Trailer 3

http://www.startrekmovie.com/

[owner20071963]

And that is why it will fail. Did you watch the PT? It was the biggest load of garbage Lucas has ever written, the man should not be allowed anywhere near his own creation.

He's beating his own franchise to death.


Wrong Nemoy is behind the Story,

This is a New Star Trek Era,
Let It Begin,
See the Movie,
Then reply here :salute:

[owner20071963]

The new website for the movie is cool and has Trailer 3

http://www.startrekmovie.com/


Yep check it out View all the Trailors :yeah:

[Skybird]

Spielberg hin, Lucas her -Special effects alone do not make a great movie. I saw the latest TV trailer over here, it is broadcasted regularly now - chaotic, and the cast very teen-TV-like.

I remain very sceptic. Casino Royal worked well because of the cool new actor (best Bond evah, imo), and well-dosing the action and balancing it against the narration. See how it degenerated in Quantom of Solace when narration was left behind and the gaps were filled with even more, chaotic action. Craig's first movie is the best Bond movie there is, but his second already is the worst there ever has been. The third Craig-Bond should be called "Balancing Extremes", maybe.

The point is, casino Royal was much closer to Ian Fleming'S novel and it'S mood, and the way he had constructed the figure. But the star Trek legacy is such that something vital gets lost if you skip this very tradition and reset everything back to beginning, we have seen that loss already in Voyager, and then even more in Enterprise - both were ripped out of the context forming that certain ST mood, and tradition. DS9 and TNG however, managed to fit into it, after the first one or two seasons, and that'S why they functioned well. What worked for 007, must not work for ST. Just imagine to redo Star Wars 4-6 with a new cast, without Harrison Ford as Han Solo, etc. It wopuld not work, at least not for the older viewers, like my age group is expecting Spock to be Nimoy, and Kirk to be Shatner, and not some stretched juveniles from Melrose Place. Not to mention the absurdity to give a ship into the hands of such an extremely young crew and officers.

And Lucas - is a fantastic special effects insider - and one of the worst story tellers known in business.

[Sledgehammer427]

Skybird, your last line had me laughing so hard I was in tears.

But I think in the movie, from what I could assess through the trailers, Kirk takes over Enterprise like his dad did in the Kelvin (trailer 3, note the same black suit)
I did notice that the crew looked a little...young, but in the starfleet, where ANYthing is possible (look at poor ole Chekov, they cast a RUSSIAN on the middle of the cold war in TOS) A young starfleet Cadet may, in a strange twist of Chain of Command, take over a starship. Of course, I don't know wether that would constitute more than taking it to drydock and getting a new captain, possibly a temporary command order while they find one...

All in all though, I can't wait for it to come out:up:

[captgeo]

I grew up as a child watching Star Trek, I am looking forward to it . The start of the rebel ( James Dean of the future) Kirk.

[Skybird]

Skybird, your last line had me laughing so hard I was in tears.

What's so funny about Lucas, or have I messed up some language thing again? :06:

[Sledgehammer427]

And Lucas - is a fantastic special effects insider - and one of the worst story tellers known in business.

that's like saying "He's a great musician, but he's butt-ugly and can't tune his guitar." at least to me anyways :yeah:

[Skybird]

that's like saying "He's a great musician, but he's butt-ugly and can't tune his guitar." at least to me anyways :yeah:
I disagree. For star Wars IV, under his supervision some new camera technology was developed, and he always establishes close monitoring of FX technicians working under his command. He surely knows what can be done with visual effects and computer graphics, and certainly knows a bit on how to do that, as he also knows how to run his busines and make a fortune. That does not chnage the fact that the Star Wars movies - like them or not like them or like the first three and dislike the last three - have a very simple, almost naive narration structure and the stories they tell are stories very often told before. Es special as the movies are, effects-wise, as simplistic they are by their content, and as flat they are by their narration structure.

To be clear, I like SW 4-6, and respect the visual graphics in SW 1-3, but dislike 1-3 nevertheless. SW 5 to me is the best and most atmospheric, tense narration of all the six movies. There is a huge difference between LOTR and SW, imo: in SW, FX dominate the story and almost flatten it, in LOTR the FX serve the story and adequately, not dominantly, transports and supports the narration. In SW story is close to nothing and effects are everything, especially in the new trilogy, while in LOTR both story and effects are solid.

[surf_ten]

My friends and I are psyched about the new trek. Zachery Quinto ( Slyar from Heroes ) looks like he has spock down pat. I didn't even know they were filming a new trek until I heard about it a month ago. I thought the francised pretty died with the flop Enterprise series.

As for Lucas, the Episode III DVD I received for Christmas two years ago is still in it's shrink wrap. Jar Jar binks and the horrible Anakin Skywalker actor ruined the prequels for me. The prequels had amazing effects, but that was about it.

[owner20071963]

as in a previous post,
The New Star Trek Website is here
http://www.startrekmovie.com/
:yeah:

[SteamWake]

Wow fourth page already...

Anyhow heres some stuff for you star trek fans

http://www.adultswim.com/americaloveslists/as_startrek/index.html?cid=IAB

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Wow fourth page already...

Anyhow heres some stuff for you star trek fans

http://www.adultswim.com/americaloveslists/as_startrek/index.html?cid=IAB


Thats classic! "COMMANDER WORF'S HEAD LOOKS LIKE A FANNY"

[Geno_Mariner]

I'm definitely watching it on Monday, dragged a friend along after we compromised that I'll watch X-men at the movies with her next time (I like x-men, it's cool, I guess, lol).

I haven't watched Star Trek before but seen bits and pieces of it from when Oberon linked me a few vids. Will be grabbing the DVD's too.

[SteamWake]

I haven't watched Star Trek before

Holy smokes ! :o

[Geno_Mariner]

Holy smokes ! :o

Because mum won't let me, but now I'm 20, I can watch anything, haha. I've always wanted to watch it.
I got to watch the entire Star Wars in one sitting with a best friend since she's bought the entire series in one shopping, lol :doh:

[Skybird]

I assume you now have already taken revenge over your mum?

[Geno_Mariner]

I assume you now have already taken revenge over your mum?

Yup :hmm2: :haha:
Started watching what she wouldn't let me see before like Stargate, Star Wars, etc etc :arrgh!: (it's the whole alien thing that she doesn't like, lol)

[JALU3]

Seen it twice already (in IMAX), go see it. Enjoy.

Gave it a B+ Memorable, but not Almost Perfect.

[Geno_Mariner]

Seen it twice already (in IMAX), go see it. Enjoy.

It's odd that my IMAX doesn't have Star Trek. But I have several theaters more close to my home XD

[Kapt Z]

The movie review in my local paper gave it 3 1/2 out of 4 stars. The guy said it was the best Star Trek flick since 'Wrath of Khan'.

We'll see...:hmmm::yeah:

[Onkel Neal]

The best and worst Capt. Kirk moments (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20246950_20263257_20233812,00.html?xid=partner-CNNHome-20+best%2Fworst+Capt%2E+Kirk+moments)

Sadly, we learn that Kirk is a terrible driver and is willing to point a tommy gun at a kid.

[GoldenRivet]

I have always enjoyed star trek, especially the 1960s series, but i never considered myself to be a "fan".

I went and saw this movie last night - Holy crap :o

That movie starts kicking ass from the moment it starts, and it only stops kicking ass long enough for you to catch a short breath before it starts kicking ass again!!!

Quinto's performance and portrayal of a young spock is flawless

Pine's performance of Kirk - wonderful, cocky, young etc. once in a while he does show a little shatner though "Yes!!! (pause) Mr.... Chekov." but you have to look for it sometimes.

Urban's performance as Dr. Bones... had he dropped ONE more "My God Man!!" in the film, it would have been too over the top.

over all i give this 4 out of 4 stars... this is the movie to beat in 2009

[SteamWake]

The best and worst Capt. Kirk moments (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20246950_20263257_20233812,00.html?xid=partner-CNNHome-20+best%2Fworst+Capt%2E+Kirk+moments)

LOL classic !

[owner20071963]

Took my son to see it,
loved it,
10 out of 10,
Well written,great storyline,
True grit movie,
Great acting,
Star Trek will have a New generation of Fans :up:


Now be ready for TERMINATOR 4 May 22nd 2009,
Arnie we will miss you :salute:
Here is the Preview
http://www.scifimoviepage.com/art_terminator4.html

[NEON DEON]

I have tickets for tonite.

My wife bought them yesterday when the first day was sold out.

[baggygreen]

my fiancee took me to see it because she knew I'd been hanging out.

I don't necessarily like the fact that we saw an altering of the timeline, that's always a black mark in my book.

Other than that, I didn enjoy it, as did my better half. The one-liners kept her very into it:D

[Aramike]

I saw it tonight. The wife and I both thought it was an awesome flick (neither of us are really sci-fi fans). The reviews nailed this one down - it was very accessible to people who know little to nothing about Star Trek (the original is all I've ever really cared for). Smart, action-packed, sexy, funny, and flashy, I'd recommend this film to anyone interested in a fun movie.

[kiwi_2005]

Great Movie saw it last night, hell wasn't expecting it to be this good this movie totally kicked a$$ :rock:

[NEON DEON]

I was impressed. They did a great job keeping the old fans happy while playing to the new. I have not been on the edge of my seat at a movie in a long time.

:yeah:

[Platapus]

We just saw this movie today. In all honestly I have to say it was "OK"

I paid $8.50 and felt I got my money's worth but I have no desire to watch it again.

I am a big fan of the original Star Trek as well as the Blish books. I was, frankly, expecting more from this movie.

It had great glitzy special effects, but it takes more than CGI to make a great movie. The music was also very nice.

The plot was a bit hokey though.

I felt the person who played Spock stole the movie. What a great selection of actor and excellent acting. :yeah:

The actor who played Kirk was a little too much "matt damon" for my liking. :down: I wished the writers had read some of the Blish books as they went in to the "history" of the characters.

By no means whatsoever am I saying this was a bad movie. Not at all. It was good entertainment, but, in my opinion, not all that great.

The Frau loved it but she admits that she is a huge CGI fan.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Just...wow. Thats all I have to say.

[Wolfehunter]

I like the actors. They did a good job in playing there parts. Story was good to. It filled both universes very well to give us a newer star trek.

I didn't like the ship. What they did to her was a total cosmetic change. I didn't like the new phasers. They act like Klingon disruptors with there pulse shots rather than the solid beam's from the phasers.

I understand they're trying to attract new blood into the fan base but they don't have to destroy the ship. :nope:

New Enterprise is very pretty but not reflecting Gene's vision.

Special effects are very cool. I find it too quick to really enjoy it. I may have to watch it again just to see the details. :03:

I give it 6 out of 10. If they kept some of the traditional details like star trek was I would have given it a 10 but they destroyed her. That for me is a big no no.

[nikimcbee]

http://pjisamixtape.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jarjar.jpg



and Lucas - is a fantastic special effects insider - and one of the worst story tellers known in business.

Why would you ever say that?:haha:

Do they show how Shatner got involved in priceline?

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I didn't like the ship. What they did to her was a total cosmetic change.

That was pretty much my only major gripe. The bridge looked like it was made by Apple.


iBridge.

[Wolfehunter]

That was pretty much my only major gripe. The bridge looked like it was made by Apple.


iBridge.
Igree! :yeah:

[owner20071963]

The Bridge looked like it was made by Apple?
Looked great,
bit like upgrading your PC,
to go with the times :D

[Kapitan_Phillips]

The Bridge looked like it was made by Apple?
Looked great,
bit like upgrading your PC,
to go with the times :D


http://blevkog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/star_trek_400x765.jpg

That totally does look like an iBridge :haha:

[XLjedi]

Overall, great movie... my son and I really enjoyed it. :yeah:

Pros
All the new actors really did a good job playing up to their predecessors.
Spock was great, but McCoy was probably my favorite of the bunch.
Cool space debris after battles.

Cons
The Spock love interest? Did NOT see that one comin.
Still trying to reconcile the space-time continium disruption in my head. (I think I've decided to try not to think about the two instances of Spock)
A red dinosaur on Hoth :hmmm:

Other comments...

I heard that all the actors that signed on had to agree to at least 3 films. So now that everything has been time-disrupted, the writers basically have free reign to ignore or redefine the storyline history going forward!?

[SteamWake]

$ 76,500,000.00 opening weekend !

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519677,00.html

[Rhodes]

A red dinosaur on Hoth :hmmm:

:haha::haha::haha:

I saw it today, just come from seeing it! 5/10! It could had being so much better (the opposite argument is also logic)! But the story (at least some of it), and the way that several caracters were just a caricatures :nope:!

And they talk about Doc Who about the future technology being so retro...!
I share the same though about the ship phasers.
The engine room is also weird/retro kind of way...

As a good friend of mine said (he went see the movie with me) "What is the film number?" "XI!" Ah, it's the teory number, the next one is going to be good!"

[Schöneboom]

I saw it yesterday, and it totally rocked! Only afterward do the flaws in the script become obvious. But it's too late now: I enjoyed Star Trek and nothing will ever change that (unless I travel back in time and spoil the movie for myself)!

And you heard this from a guy with a Starfleet uniform in his closet! :DL

[Wolfehunter]

Overall, great movie... my son and I really enjoyed it. :yeah:

Pros
All the new actors really did a good job playing up to their predecessors.
Spock was great, but McCoy was probably my favorite of the bunch.
Cool space debris after battles.

Cons
The Spock love interest? Did NOT see that one comin.
Still trying to reconcile the space-time continium disruption in my head. (I think I've decided to try not to think about the two instances of Spock)
A red dinosaur on Hoth :hmmm:

Other comments...

I heard that all the actors that signed on had to agree to at least 3 films. So now that everything has been time-disrupted, the writers basically have free reign to ignore or redefine the storyline history going forward!?Ah I forgot to say that. New vulcan emotions are acceptable now... Dambit jim.. Spock's green blooded heart feels.. :o

I sure do like that Orion chic hehehe.

[JALU3]

http://blevkog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/star_trek_400x765.jpg

That totally does look like an iBridge :haha:

Of course the next line of that scene was from Spock:
"Get out of the chair."

I hate to say it however, given the success of BSG, and other more gritty space operas in recent history (including firefly/serenity), was it any suprise that this utopian ideal that was the goal has taken a back seat to the flawed humanity with more futuristic tech that was depicted? We know that Paramount had no love for us, or the franchise. I mean look at what they did to the set (destroyed it), the props (sold those that they could), and documentation (only G/god(s) knows what).
The sad unfortunate truth about Star Trek is that the ones with the money have seen a formula that appears to work, and hated the franchise previously, so took that formula and made of the fictional universe that we all grew into Trek in. Therefore, since the formula works they see a way to create the franchise in an image more akin to their money making schemes, rather than the intent of the creator of the franchise. We will get new fans into our community, and in many ways we will disagree with why they came. But they came, so let us give them a chair, punch, and give 'um a piece of cake (if it isn't a lie), and teach them of the heritage of what they will adopt as their own. Maybe then, they will see the errors of RST or ST2.0 (or whatever you want to call it), and come to appretiate the entirity of our passion for this fictional universe which Mr. Roddenberry so graciously left us to revel in.


I sure do like that Orion chic hehehe.
I hate to burst your bubble, but as Bones would say: "She's dead Jim."

[SteamWake]

I hate to burst your bubble, but as Bones would say: "She's dead Jim."

Sigh... thats not the full quote its "She's dead jim you grab the tricorder I'll get her wallet !" :rotfl:

By the way it seems Data can get a little emotional now too !

http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Data_and_the_BSOD/#23057

[JALU3]

OK so this is becoming a vid thread? OK, here's something stupid (http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/song_dance/JeanLuc_Picard_Remix/), and a remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNnEYAiTWE) of another sort.

And one of the best scenes of DS9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-YyL7X4CWw), if not this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz-MepaJCM4).

[Sailor Steve]

New vulcan emotions are acceptable now...
Haven't been able to see it yet, but Spock had plenty of emotions in the original pilot. It wasn't until the series took off that they made him more stoic.

[goldorak]

Yes, this new film is FANTASTIC. Its not without problems, but this is the real STAR TREK. We have never been so close to the spirit of TOS as with this film. Kudos to Abrams. :D
I don't get why so many people hate this film, if you think about it take an original TOS episode, bring it to the silver screen and you get something along the lines of this film. Pure TOS bliss. :D

[Aramike]

Yes, this new film is FANTASTIC. Its not without problems, but this is the real STAR TREK. We have never been so close to the spirit of TOS as with this film. Kudos to Abrams. :D
I don't get why so many people hate this film, if you think about it take an original TOS episode, bring it to the silver screen and you get something along the lines of this film. Pure TOS bliss. :DI wouldn't say "so many" people hate this film - it's received rave reviews and is making a load of cash.

The only people that seem to hate it are the fanboys who want to keep Star Trek for themselves, not realizing that Star Trek is dead if that's the result. :|\\

[Skybird]

I have been invited to see it tomorrow. Actually, I tried to convince them to watch a different movie, but they were determined to see ST. So it seems I will need to find out myself tomorrow afternoon.

The good thing is I will not need to pay for it. That's at least something.

I expect a probability of 85,76% for a desaster, and 14,23% for a positive surprise. However, there is an accumulated 0,01% chance that a meteor impact, a traffic accident, heavy weather, street crime, riots or a sudden flooding will prevent us from reaching the cinema. In this possibility I put my trust.

[Wolfehunter]

Of course the next line of that scene was from Spock:
"Get out of the chair."

I hate to say it however, given the success of BSG, and other more gritty space operas in recent history (including firefly/serenity), was it any suprise that this utopian ideal that was the goal has taken a back seat to the flawed humanity with more futuristic tech that was depicted? We know that Paramount had no love for us, or the franchise. I mean look at what they did to the set (destroyed it), the props (sold those that they could), and documentation (only G/god(s) knows what).
The sad unfortunate truth about Star Trek is that the ones with the money have seen a formula that appears to work, and hated the franchise previously, so took that formula and made of the fictional universe that we all grew into Trek in. Therefore, since the formula works they see a way to create the franchise in an image more akin to their money making schemes, rather than the intent of the creator of the franchise. We will get new fans into our community, and in many ways we will disagree with why they came. But they came, so let us give them a chair, punch, and give 'um a piece of cake (if it isn't a lie), and teach them of the heritage of what they will adopt as their own. Maybe then, they will see the errors of RST or ST2.0 (or whatever you want to call it), and come to appretiate the entirity of our passion for this fictional universe which Mr. Roddenberry so graciously left us to revel in.


I hate to burst your bubble, but as Bones would say: "She's dead Jim."Ya I know she's dead. I saw parts of her ship flying in pieces. :arrgh!:

And I agree to your above statement. That is the mentality today. Gene gave us a vision that these companies are destroying for personal profit. Its all about money.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

The only people that seem to hate it are the fanboys who want to keep Star Trek for themselves, not realizing that Star Trek is dead if that's the result. :|\\

I'm a fanboy and I loved it.

[owner20071963]

seen the movie which was great :up:
lets look forward to the Game,
Star Trek Online :yeah:
http://www.startrekonline.com/

[Wolfehunter]

I wouldn't say "so many" people hate this film - it's received rave reviews and is making a load of cash.

The only people that seem to hate it are the fanboys who want to keep Star Trek for themselves, not realizing that Star Trek is dead if that's the result. :|\\I don't hate it and don't want it for myself. I like new fans joining.

I do remember saying I like the film except for a few things that were twisted.

Star trek is about its fans. Fans are what made star trek today. Paramount have given up on startrek many times in the past unless it can show them much profit. It because of us the crazy old fans why star trek exist today.

There is more to life than money. :03:

[goldorak]

Ya I know she's dead. I saw parts of her ship flying in pieces. :arrgh!:

And I agree to your above statement. That is the mentality today. Gene gave us a vision that these companies are destroying for personal profit. Its all about money.


This is utter crap. TOS was always a space western, action all the way till the end. And people loved it, if they didn't no one would remember the series after the 1969 cancellation. The new generation, voyager, ds9 and enterprise are all politically correct and in many ways less star-trecky than the tos episodes were. This is the truth. :D
So bring back kick ass Kirk Spock and Bones. :up:

[Wolfehunter]

This is utter crap. TOS was always a space western, action all the way till the end. And people loved it, if they didn't no one would remember the series after the 1969 cancellation. The new generation, voyager, ds9 and enterprise are all politically correct and in many ways less star-trecky than the tos episodes were. This is the truth. :D
So bring back kick ass Kirk Spock and Bones. :up:This is true too. Jezz man I have to be careful to write stuff. Too much details write all at once. Still next generation wasn't as bad as the later versions. But your right to much censorship and politically correct.

Can you imagine today if they make a new Archie Bunker show? Can't happen. :nope:

[Kratos]

Watched it last night, all i can say is http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/300/96683118.gif mind it took just over a hour and a half for him to say it :O:

[Sonarman]

I quite liked the film, I can see the western "wagon train to the stars" aspect noted by Goldorak but Star Trek was also inspired by the Horatio Hornblower series of novels who would always use cleverness, guile and bluff to win his way through situations, there wasn't much of that in evidence here.

I think they did a good job on the effects and introducing the characters with some funny lines, but the core story was rather poor and unmemorable. The expositional voice over by Nimoy in the middle of the film is characteristic of the poor writing normally seen in bad TV detective series it's always better to show not just tell.

However it is a good beginning with hopefully better to come, if I was CBS/Paramount I'd get a "real" SF writer to write the plot and let Orci/Kurtzman write the character's dialogue in the screenplay.

To me the real genius of the series is the openness of the format encompassing everything from comedy, courtroom drama, naval style space battles, morality tales etc, hopefully they will not let it become a "one-note" non-stop action piece, bring on the sequels and a new TV series asap.

[Skybird]

Terrible.

Special effects alone do not make a good movie. Just calling a character "Spock" does not make Star Trek.

This is as good or bad as any random action movie. This is as good or bad as any random science fiction movie. Nothing that sets it apart from that mediocrity and lack of characteristic features.

Actually, I found the movie worse than I even feared or expected. My friends were split. One liked it, two hate it. We score 1-3 against it.

If I still would have any doubt that Star Trek after "Voyager" and even worse: "Enterprise" was dead, now I know for sure: a waggon of baby-faces shouting Juchee! while visiting the rollercoaster starshow in Disneyland. Melrose place in space. Types and characters like taken from any US-TV teenage daily soap.

Sometimes, resetting a series to start, could work: "Casiono Royal". sometimes it does not work at all: "Enterprise", and now: "Star Trek".

Even the title is completely lost.

Terrible.

[nikimcbee]

Terrible.

If I still would have any doubt that Star Trek after "Voyager" and even worse: "Enterprise" was dead, now I know for sure: a waggon of baby-faces shouting Juchee! while visiting the rollercoaster starshow in Disneyland. Melrose place in space. Types and characters like taken from any US-TV teenage daily soap.



Terrible.

I heard somebody else discribe the film in that way; Beverly Hills 90210 was there name for it.

I might go see it, there's nothing else going on:-?

[Zachstar]

I loved it! It made Trek acceptable to everyone again and now trek gains new fans and new ideas that will continue it for quite a while yet.

You have to understand. Voyager killed Star Trek. And this movie make it very clear about how they have to write a backstory (A 4 part comic) showing how they created 2 treks to keep trek going.

What else were they going to do? The super weapons and tech gained from the delta quadrant would make the federation invincible. Enterprise filled a gap by having to rupture cannon (And even then they ran out of time to do more seasons)

With the new universe they are completely free to make use of new ideas to rewrite history. For instance in the new Star Trek era I am quite sure Spock Prime will warn the federation about the caretaker and voyager will not venture into the delta quadrant just yet. Q will not be able to trick Picard into letting the Borg know the federation is out there. And federation ships will end up with better arms much quicker.

So that Leaves the TOS era until the Star Trek Online in the new universe to do ANYTHING.

[owner20071963]

The Star Trek Online Game is in production for 2 years now,
not completed yet,
but will be soon,
Lets not forget,
Star Trek Is Simulation,
Like Silent Hunter,
All is done is done to Revive,
Kirk & Spock,
Star Trek revolves around the Original Crew,
This Movie has done this,
Apple Deck or not,
We will see a New generation of Fans,
Based on the Original Name,
Star Trek :yeah:

[JALU3]

Furthermore, Star Trek Online (ST:O) is not suppose to be part of the movie timeline of Alternate Star Trek (AST), as Memory Alpha is calling it. Rather it is suppose to be set 20 years past the events of Star Trek Nemesis, which is also the period which Spock "Alpha", and Nero comes from. They are presently posting that timeline, as they are developing it, on their webpage.
forum.trek-rpg.net is going to be forming a fleet/squadron which I will be joining, as that is a community that I have been a part of since I started RPGing Star Trek.
I have my reservations about each playet being allowed to command their own starship. However, this is taking after Starfleet Command game series, and seeing how enduring that is, I don't blame them for going for this route. It would just be nice to have other than NPCs as your heads of divisions on your ship once you move into really bohemith vessels, like the Galaxy Class. But then again, now you get to have NPC pets who you can level into those positions, or train up.
Myself I am going to try to get that Akira Carrier Variant (http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread.php?t=2208) (if they allow it) Fill the space around me with up to 60 Peregrins, each with their own set of Torpedo Tubes. It'll be glorious. And imagine the scanning/exploration ability, that that many sensors could do.

[Rhodes]

It was not that terrible. But several thing in plot make that idea. Also the necessaty of explaining the movie with the time line of TOS and beyond is one thing that kill the movie. :nope:
I liked the way they over do the TOS tech in the shipa and the bridge is completly the other way, even with a window (the window cracks and "well good night").
At least the tried to appel to everybody, the put Pike in a wheel chair! And at least he could still talk...:O:

PS: Voyager didn't kill ST! Brannon, braga and Enterprise (the 3 seasons) kill ST. Voyager was diffrent, plot had the moments of "one can put their hand in the head", but they manage to get better, and do something that belong to TNG universe.

[Zachstar]

Enterprise was the result of voyager tampering.

Seriously it would be absolutely stupid to do a show in the aftermath of voyager. Every few episodes of voyager saw a HUGE jump in tech. All and all they got almost everything they needed for transwarp for one.

So they had a choice they could go to the era between TOS and TNG which would be a borefest for nontrekkies or they could screw the cannon and go before TOS.

As a result Enterprise screwed with the timeline cannon and resulted in years of people having to explain inconsistencies. (Thank geez for Memory Alpha!)

Ill admit it was getting GOOD in season 4 and I still want a season 5 but other than a season 5 Star Trek in the normal cannon and in film or TV is finished.

I will indeed call the new trek Alternative Star Trek because that is acknowledging their freedom to edit the future of trek to not have to remain with ties to the past.

About Star Trek online. It will be fun but they are cheating in a way in allowing MMO elements to magically "disappear" Super federation advantages got from the years voyager spent in the delta quadrant.

What I am figuring at this point is they are closing off the portions involved with the $$$ stuff and letting the rest of the timeline in old trek go to the trekkies who make the fanfics, role playing games, etc... They get acess to everything in the AST.

[Rhodes]

Enterprise was the result of voyager tampering.

Seriously it would be absolutely stupid to do a show in the aftermath of voyager. Every few episodes of voyager saw a HUGE jump in tech. All and all they got almost everything they needed for transwarp for one.
.


Not to mention all the times that janeway had the chance to get her crew back to the alpha quadrant and didn't in favor off other stuff! :D

[Steel_Tomb]

I LOVED it, yes it had flaws... I had to giggle at Chekov (sp?) with his pretty bad accent. On the whole I really enjoyed it, I actually want to go and see it again lol. By the way, I hated the new warp effect.... the blue ball behind the warp nacelles... why couldn't they keep the original effect?


Thing I hated the most.......

Photon torpedoes are RED not freaking BLUE! Those are quantam torpedoes you fools! lol :damn:.


Live long and prosper! :salute:





*spoilers ahoy!*.....


.....


....

If in this timeline they know that the Romula's star will go nova from the older Spock, can't they just get there a bit quicker do what Spock wanted to do in the first place, Nero wouldn't havea motive and thus the original timeline would be restored with Vulcan never have been destroyed, because nero would never have gone back to alter it..... ????

[Zachstar]

Actually Photons Torpedoes in the TOS era were blue and had a MUCH bigger punch than the ENT or TNG counterparts. The red ones are different in that they are much more maneuverable and MUCH faster and can fire at warp.

And spock diddn't cause the Nova. He did his best to try to warn the romulans about it. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Countdown

BTW Dont you get it? THe whole idea of this movie was to "Preserve" The old trek by using Late TNG tech to create another "Star Trek" Timeline that isnt some temporary thing to be fixed. The writers get access to this new trek while the trekkies and ST Online have access to the old trek. Its perfect!

[Steel_Tomb]

Fair enough, I thought they were always red :damn:. I meant that Spock arrived too late to use the matter bomb on the sun.... so now he could get there quicker to stop the nova happening and thus changing the timeline. I understand why they did it, and it is genius... they get to do what they like without fear of conflicting with something in the original timeline... thus preventing any conflict with the fan base over story lines.

[Zachstar]

The countdown comic explains the sun issue completely and Memory Alpha describes the comics well tho I plan to buy all 4 of em for my collection.

And yes it is genius. The old trekkies were getting ready to admit that Star Trek was not going to survive effectively in the future. This prevents that.

This will also really open the way for more fan works. And as computer tech gets better and video tech trickles down. The fan works are getting better than ever!

Not to mention gaming.

[Rhodes]

Actually Photons Torpedoes in the TOS era were blue and had a MUCH bigger punch than the ENT or TNG counterparts. The red ones are different in that they are much more maneuverable and MUCH faster and can fire at warp.

+/- The first time they were red (big discution when the enterprise got torpedos in TOS due to what is said in TNG episodes and the location of the launchers is also something, like were was scotty engine room in ROS)! Then white/blue. In the motion picture they were blue again! One can argue diffrent types and diffrent special effects!:D

[Wolfehunter]

+/- The first time they were red (big discution when the enterprise got torpedos in TOS due to what is said in TNG episodes and the location of the launchers is also something, like were was scotty engine room in ROS)! Then white/blue. In the motion picture they were blue again! One can argue diffrent types and diffrent special effects!:D

Me thinks you all drink too much romulan ale muhahahahaa. :()1:

[Rhodes]

Me thinks you all drink too much romulan ale muhahahahaa. :()1:

And I drink, I'm drinking right know to forgett the movie!:()1: http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/drink/trink14.gif

[XLjedi]

If in this timeline they know that the Romula's star will go nova from the older Spock, can't they just get there a bit quicker do what Spock wanted to do in the first place, Nero wouldn't havea motive and thus the original timeline would be restored with Vulcan never have been destroyed, because nero would never have gone back to alter it..... ????


As I mentioned, I prefer not to even think about the 2 Spocks, just hurts my head.

I have to wonder about the original plan though???

Consider a few other items:

Given the planet is fully populated and the Romulan sun is about to go supernova and fry all the poor habitants of Romulus... Is creating a black hole where the sun used to be really gonna save em? :hmmm:

Spock was stranded, I believe, on a moon of Vulcan (Hoth I think it was :03:). He watches from the moon as Vulcan gets sucked into a black hole, but apparently neither the gravitational pull of Vulcan or the black hole is strong enough to pull in Hoth? :hmmm:

I guess they were special black holes that were just big enough to pull in a planet and then they disappear.

[owner20071963]

Love it or hate it,
Lets give it a :yeah:
Its fresh,its New,
After watching the movie at the local cinema,
went home,my 10 yr old son asks?
Dad where is that Star Trek Collection you have?
goes to his room with it,
there is the effect of the movie,,
Its Fun,
Long may it last :salute:

[Onkel Neal]

Finally got to see it tonight! (Had to wait for my daughter to finish her semester so we could all see it together). I've been avoiding this thread for a week, now I can relax and read spoilers :)

Anything Star Trek is always a pro for me, and being old school TOS fan, I am glad the new movie did not have the Next Gen vibe. They filled out the characters well, the actors playing Kirk, Scotty, Spock, and McCoy were gold. No one can replicate the intensity and devotion to duty and ship that was Shatner, but Pine did ok. Zachary Quinto played Spock very well, too.

It was fast paced, which is sorta good, it builds excitement, but not much suspence. The old series always had time for Kirk to bluff and BS his way around, this movie moved at warp speed.

Ack, I hate time travel storylines! I've been staggering through LOST, and now Trek starts all kinds of capers with time travel. Close my eyes, it will go away...

The score was rousing but so much so, it kinda distracted me. I guess when you get older, you begin to pick up on music cues too easily. This is the regretful music, here's the ha-ha cute comment music, oh! THIS is the earth at stake battle music... I liked it, but I think they overdid it a little, and besides, can anything beat the music scores from the original series. That stuff was great!

Big thumbs down on blowing up Vulcan Why not kill off Earth while you're at it? :x

Also, while I'm griping, stop messing with warp speed. It ain't like hyperdrive or whatever they did in Star Wars. You can accelerate from sub-light to Warp One, and on up to Warp Six (Eight in emergencies, like trying to beat a yellow light or a train) seemlessly, without losing contact with the rest of the Universe.

Haha, I love the new bridge (but I can see where it could use a little more color besides Apple white) and I see they kept the miniskirts!

The effects were superb, both in technical proficiency and in application. The scene when Enterprise warped around Vulcan, the great, majestic view of Enterprise rising from the dust of Titan, and the hammering action shots of Enterprise to the rescue. Awesome to look at. Some of the aliens were too weird for us, give me humanoids any day, weird aliens stand out too much.

The plot was very similar to several exisitng Trek stories, nothing really earth shattering, but serviceable. I hope they put more effort into a really good story for the sequel, now that they have the characters introduced. Yes, we have seen the Earth under attack a million times, this is space shuttle territory, let's get Trek back out in the galaxy where it belongs, exploring strange, new worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizationsm, and boldly going where no man has gone before (that's right, I said man). Gimme some morality plays and hit some philiosphical notes next time. And more alien women for Kirk.


The movie was good, very entertaining, and we enjoyed it. Seven dilithium crystals out of ten. :up:

[Zachstar]

Star Trek will last thanks to this.

Most Trekkies like it because with this the existing storyline is preserved.

A few that Don't like it call themselves trekkies but to me are more like people who argue over which year the football team had the best defence instead of argueing why their team is better than the other. You cant please them unless you reran the exact episodes exactly as they aired before. Not saying all who don't like it are that way but it is that way for a few.

[Zachstar]

This is an image from someone on the Star Trek Online forums showing what happened in "Star Trek (2009)"

This is the AST

http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc340/the_grand_nagus/timeline6.jpg

This is not just some fantasy idea either. This is the modern way to demonstrate that time travel to the past is possible without "Back to the Future" type events.

Without "Branching" there is no time travel to the past period.

[Buddahaid]

What I find amusing is all the arguments over the science of, and fidelity to TOS. Desilu did what they could on a very limited budget and special effects. TOS was also full of big mistakes, like warping to the sun from earth over several minutes, to travel back in time. :har: I knew that was BS when I was twelve and loving the show as it first aired.

Science and reason get tossed out the window when keeping a plot, or lack of one, moving. And, given that most people can't tell you the difference between our solar system and galaxy, who cares. Just suspend your concept of the universe and enjoy it for what it is, entertainment.

Buddahaid

[Zachstar]

That is the major (And extremely rare) argument being made for the change of the size of the ship.

But also you have to look at the time. They could have made the enterprise able to destroy planets and have missiles that could penetrate shields or whatever. But Star Trek explored a more peaceful solution to many issues which is what everyone desired in the cold war.

But as the story progressed you just had to put in stronger adversaries that do not care if you have a nuke or photon torpedo. by the time ENT came around the norm was battle then have a peaceful settlement of the situation.

The ship has to be bigger and stronger because that is what Trek is today.

That is one of the rare things to "Just happen" in the new movie. Everything else is a result of the image above.

[JALU3]

You know what, I am tired of the next bad guy having to top the last one, be badder, have a wierder costume, have the bigger ship, destroy that planet that much fast. Next they will throw in the Doomsday Machine ala duce and a half size, swallow entire solar systems in a single pass, being ridden by some alien madman, with an exhast port as the only means to destroy it or some action centered BS. Don't get me wrong, action is necessary, but there is a way to do it with what is at hand, just as it has been going with everything being over the top.

It would have been blasephomy before, but was touched on in DS9, but I can see these two thoughts of what Star Trek is becoming having a good on screen battle that is not devoid of intellectual contemplation as this movie was. (Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it for what it was, and in and of itself. But taken as a whole, it was but a shadow of its predecessor. Like a kid trying to put on adult shoes. It's cute; fun to watch; but not the real thing.) The Youth oriented, shoot first, ask questions later, conquer by force of will and young unending labedo fighting for dominance of Starfleet and the spirit of the Federation over the older, wiser, more thoughtful and peaceful explorers of a generation overlooked. Say the difference between a young butter bar who leads his platoon over the top for the direct assault, as compared to the older captain who leads his element to flank the enemy to destroy their supply line and reduce their will and ability to fight. (Maybe this is why I might have been part of the minority who disliked seeing Picard becoming Kirk-Lite in the movies (I didn't need to see him win the girl, or fight hand to hand, etc.))

[Rhodes]

This is an image from someone on the Star Trek Online forums showing what happened in "Star Trek (2009)"

This is the AST

http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc340/the_grand_nagus/timeline6.jpg

This is not just some fantasy idea either. This is the modern way to demonstrate that time travel to the past is possible without "Back to the Future" type events.

Without "Branching" there is no time travel to the past period.

I like this one more:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9113/stxicanon1.gif (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stxicanon1.gif)
[/URL]

and also this one:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5566/stxikirkpike1.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/img29/stxicanon1.gif/1/)
[URL="http://g.imageshack.us/img40/stxikirkpike1.jpg/1/"]
:haha:

by ex-astris-scientia, Bernd Schneider's!

[JALU3]

wow that Y axis on that graph is highly subjective there .... :yawn:

[Rhodes]

It's a person site with his opinions! But most of what the creator of that site says and presents, are quite good and with solid bases! And one can always agree or not!

"We do not argue tastes!";)

[Wolfehunter]

You know what, I am tired of the next bad guy having to top the last one, be badder, have a wierder costume, have the bigger ship, destroy that planet that much fast. Next they will throw in the Doomsday Machine ala duce and a half size, swallow entire solar systems in a single pass, being ridden by some alien madman, with an exhast port as the only means to destroy it or some action centered BS. Don't get me wrong, action is necessary, but there is a way to do it with what is at hand, just as it has been going with everything being over the top.

It would have been blasephomy before, but was touched on in DS9, but I can see these two thoughts of what Star Trek is becoming having a good on screen battle that is not devoid of intellectual contemplation as this movie was. (Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it for what it was, and in and of itself. But taken as a whole, it was but a shadow of its predecessor. Like a kid trying to put on adult shoes. It's cute; fun to watch; but not the real thing.) The Youth oriented, shoot first, ask questions later, conquer by force of will and young unending labedo fighting for dominance of Starfleet and the spirit of the Federation over the older, wiser, more thoughtful and peaceful explorers of a generation overlooked. Say the difference between a young butter bar who leads his platoon over the top for the direct assault, as compared to the older captain who leads his element to flank the enemy to destroy their supply line and reduce their will and ability to fight. (Maybe this is why I might have been part of the minority who disliked seeing Picard becoming Kirk-Lite in the movies (I didn't need to see him win the girl, or fight hand to hand, etc.))Ah you hit it on the mark. See they're attracting new younger blood so they show that younger adults know more than the older veterans. Why they shoot first and still don't ask questions. Thinking is optional.. :haha: Firing weapons is much easier.. :woot:

Also its mostly about money so they're going to get the new generation attached thinking there immortals hehehe.

I get that impression that the next generation viewers are telling us oldino's to shutup and move on its our movie now.. Thats perfectly fine by me. I prefer the older cheezy startrek anyday. :yeah:

[JALU3]

You know, many of the more devoted TNG/DS9/VOY fans that have been lurking on the ST Boards that I visit, even long after the shows went off air, and long before this new movie came out have their reservations. Therefore, I believe it unfair to blame this on the generation that grew up with the above mentioned shows. These new fans whom have fully embraced this movie are more those, IMHO, who grew up when ENT was messing with the Cannon, all be it in a slightly more improved way every preceding season, and lived in its absence, only to find enjoyment in Firefly/Serenity and the re imagined BSG.

Don't get me wrong they were both enjoyable in their own right, but they didn't have the core philosophy that was developed in...(gotta go continue this later)

[Aramike]

I like this one more:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9113/stxicanon1.gif (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stxicanon1.gif)


This gets my vote for Nerdiest Graphic Ever.

[Rhodes]

This gets my vote for Nerdiest Graphic Ever.

:har::har::har::up:

[Zachstar]

There is lots of debate over the ship size currently. What I don't get is why people automatically assume that there will be exact scaleup for all ships.

Yes the new enterprise is HUGE but the TNG(AST) Enterprise will likely be just a bit bigger instead of the huge jump in TNG(Prime)

A good question tho is why a ship that size did not carry a fighter wing. Likely just to not change it too too much further.

1701-B(AST) and beyond I suspect will be just a bit bigger than 1701(AST) and will have ateast a squad of fighters. It is almost beyond stupid anyway how the federation decided not to equip all its ships with fighters even with the TOS(Prime) Enterprise's tiny size.

[owner20071963]

Star Trek will last thanks to this.

Most Trekkies like it because with this the existing storyline is preserved.

A few that Don't like it call themselves trekkies but to me are more like people who argue over which year the football team had the best defence instead of argueing why their team is better than the other. You cant please them unless you reran the exact episodes exactly as they aired before. Not saying all who don't like it are that way but it is that way for a few.


So true,
Star Trek Begins,
Its 2009 after all :up:

[Zachstar]

Hold the phone.

Batman begins is what is called a "Reboot" or just saying "Everything we do for now on is completely unrelated to the old" The new is cannon.

ST 2009 is NOT a reboot. The size chance happened out of the blue but can be "contained" In the AST universe.

JJ used the modern theory of multiple universes and time travel to the past creating new ones to make a "New" Star Trek universe.

The old is still cannon it still can be made. The "Star Trek Online" game takes place in "Prime" not "AST" Prime is still there. The Enterprise is still tiny in Prime. Voyager still goes to the delta quadrant in prime.

The difference is it wont in AST.

[Steel_Tomb]

Just a quick question.... how can Data be captain of the Enterprise E? The storyline obviously takes place after Nemesis... where Data is killed? Or did they find a way to upgrade B4?

[JALU3]

It's explained, in the ST:O timeline, that the Data's data that was transfered into the cheap cop-out which is B4, had asserted itself over the previously existing non-advanced programming that was already in the android once they upgraded its internal matrix.

[Aramike]

You know, after being incredibly entertained by the new Star Trek movie, I stopped to watch a couple of episodes of TNG being re-run on SciFi, I believe. I really never watched the series before, and decided to give it a shot.

Whoops.

After a constant barrage of techno-babble (harmonic frequency shifts, transporter blah-blah dampeners, etc) along with actors constantly pretending to urgently press buttons, I decided to thank goodness for Abrams to attempt to realize the potential in Star Trek. It is really difficult to use a fictional technology malfunction and come up with a fictional solution and make it work. That seemed to be the overriding theme of the episodes I watched. Somebody got screwed up during transport. Let's use the transporter to fix it.

Seriously?

[Steel_Tomb]

Hehe... I just got back home. Saw the entire TOS movie collection in ASDA for £30.... SOLD!

Just finished watching STII:Wrath of Kahn.... man... what a film! Over 25 years old and its still awesome. Always feel sad for old Spocky though... I know he comes back to life, but its still a bit depressing!

[SS107.9MHz]

Well, went to see the movie last monday and Rhodes is bustin' my chops for me to post a comment.

First of all, I'm a fan of the series, but not a hardcore fan, I'm aware of much of the techy stuff, but can't say if this is right according to TOS or TNG, or whatever. I enjoy the storylines and the build of the characters above all. Since this is supposed to be a revamped story with no particular string of continuity henseforth, it seems to me that the most sound aproach to the movie will have to se it has any other movie and review it as that.

Well then , I've seen the movie, and if there's a bad thing in one is to be anoyed be it... When this happens you can't really emerse in the story nor truly enjoy it. Part of this is related to the characters, particularly the support ones. You can't really conect with any of them, most of the caracters are caricatures, if not jokes (even if you didn' knew the other series), Anton Yelchin, John Cho and Simon Pegg really take home the prize for worst supporting characters. They're suppose to bring comic relief, but the only thing I got from them was aggravation really...dumbed down characters are bad in any movie, and I'd rather skipped all together and maybe would introduced them in a second installment, while granting them more screen time, and maybe real lines for them to act. Quinto and Pine are a bit middle of the road, with so much screen time available, I was expecting a bit more, the interaction between the two, albeit a few scenes already mentioned, seems lacking. The best performances/screen time come IMHO from Urban and Saldana, wich is a bit surprising... In fact I wish there was more time alowed for the story in the academy, rather then completely useless scenes like the beast chasing Kirk. I can't quite grasp how Abrahams, who's beens experience in making thrilling pursuit/stalking scenes has achieved such a mediocre result. This brings to the films main problem wich is it's plot. Sometimes less is more... This movie plot is...well, bad. It's pace is too fast, there's no build up between scenes, no sence of tension to be released in the end of the movie, besides the rivalry between Spock and Kirk, where's the impending doom aroud the corner, brought by the Romulan Menace, you don't get i during the movie! It's a bit like, "Oh, and there's those guys in the storyline, better wrapp up things with them too WHILE WE'RE AT IT". I won't even go in the timeline/alternate reality stuff, of would it change the future or is it another timeline altogether... After Lost, and the even better, IMHO, The Fringe, this plot from Abrahams was not what I was expecting. I really hope the next movie is better then this one (after all this was an Odd number pic, and if time has proven anything, even is a safer bet!).:know:
(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0947338/)

[Skybird]

Ah, it is the maker of Lost, I just learned from the comment above. Somehow I managed to miss (or forget) that.

Well, I did not like Lost, too. Good idea, but too much air pumped into it. They should have made one season of it and then resolve it. From the second season on at the latest, it was too artifical and too boring as if I could have liked it. I sporadically jumped into it again at later stages, and found it to become more and more mediocre.

Abramah does not know when enough is enough. Not with Lost, and even less with the high paced constant action sequencing in ST. Like with Casino Royal, that got it right, and Quantum of Solace, that killed the promising beginning acchieved with the first movie again, for being too overpaced.

Special effects and fast paced action alone do not make already good movies. They are just the spice in the soup, not the meal itself. The best spice is when it does not dominate the taste of the food, but makes you realising the lack of it when it is left out.

[Peto]

Acting in General rates a B. However, non-direction of characters stunted the potential character developement.

Special Effects also get a B. They were good but nothing ground-breaking.

Story (what story?) gets a D: Was there even a Director for this movie? It felt like a few mini-stories loosely thrown together.

Continuing Transition from Star Trek as Science Fiction to Star Trek the Fantasy gets a serious F-: In the old Star Treks they used to at least acknowledge science. They ignore it completely in this film (Spock shows Scottie Scottie's invention? What a slap in the face to Scottie's original character!) A Kid on his 1st voyage gets to be Captain? Too unbelievable, too ludicrous to be tangible. The movie was actually kind of boring to me after that. Especially when Uhura fell in love with Spock because she pitied him :shifty:. That's seriously shallow even to an aging Rock musician.

My Final Grade: C/C- I enjoyed the trailer for the 2nd release of The Transformers as much as I enjoyed the whole ST movie. The best thing for me about seeing it for $5 in the theater is now I can wait for it to hit the clearance bins at Walmart before wasting money on a BlueRay Edition.

[jumpy]

I thoroughly enjoyed this latest Trek film. It was a bit loud though... damn cinemas.

However, I heartily approve of the green skinned lass: http://www.mtv.com/photos/star-trek-trading-cards-reveal-new-images/1608105/3707828/photo.jhtml

:yeah:

[Torplexed]

I finally saw it today. It's a nice action movie. The casting job was fantastic and they did inject a healthy amount of humour into it. It didn't feel like old school 1966 Star Trek to me, but then it's not 1966 anymore. I suppose like Batman they felt it was time for a reboot.

Likes:

One :I loved the new McCoy.
Two: Spock was brilliantly cast.
Three: Kirk was cool and brash.
Four: Uhura was lovely although her hemline could still be higher. :D
Five: Awesome to see Sulu fencing again. :yeah:

Gripes:

One: Doesn't the Federation have ANY sort of planetary defenses?
Two: Why does it take the Romulans far longer to destroy the Kelvin than they did the Federation fleet around Vulcan?
Three: Was that a Romulan mining ship or Cthulu in space?
Four: Can't we ever get away from the tired time travel plot crutch?
Five: based on the movie, Federation ships are approximately 98% hangar bay. The other 2% is apparently a large factory somewhere in Detroit

[Q3ark]

You know, after being incredibly entertained by the new Star Trek movie, I stopped to watch a couple of episodes of TNG being re-run on SciFi, I believe. I really never watched the series before, and decided to give it a shot.

Whoops.

After a constant barrage of techno-babble (harmonic frequency shifts, transporter blah-blah dampeners, etc) along with actors constantly pretending to urgently press buttons, I decided to thank goodness for Abrams to attempt to realize the potential in Star Trek. It is really difficult to use a fictional technology malfunction and come up with a fictional solution and make it work. That seemed to be the overriding theme of the episodes I watched. Somebody got screwed up during transport. Let's use the transporter to fix it.

Seriously?

Yeh TNG was very bad like that. Gene Roddenberry (creator of trek) was only involved with the first two seasons of TNG, he was forced to give it up due to ill health. After he left it all went daft with stupid amounts of tecnononsence, voyager had the same problem. Only Deep space nine seemes to come close to the spirit of the original series, which most "true fans" dismiss because it takes place on a space station insteasd of a ship.

[Q3ark]

Doesn't the Federation have ANY sort of planetary defenses?


Do you have any idea how much that stuff costs? It was a choice between that and captain Archar's retirement home complete with pool and orion slave girls :88)

[Onkel Neal]

I finally saw it today. It's a nice action movie. The casting job was fantastic and they did inject a healthy amount of humour into it. It didn't feel like old school 1966 Star Trek to me, but then it's not 1966 anymore. I suppose like Batman they felt it was time for a reboot.

Likes:

One :I loved the new McCoy.
Two: Spock was brilliantly cast.
Three: Kirk was cool and brash.
Four: Uhura was lovely although her hemline could still be higher. :D
Five: Awesome to see Sulu fencing again. :yeah:

Gripes:

One: Doesn't the Federation have ANY sort of planetary defenses?
Two: Why does it take the Romulans far longer to destroy the Kelvin than they did the Federation fleet around Vulcan?
Three: Was that a Romulan mining ship or Cthulu in space?
Four: Can't we ever get away from the tired time travel plot crutch?
Five: based on the movie, Federation ships are approximately 98% hangar bay. The other 2% is apparently a large factory somewhere in Detroit


Right on target. McCoy was awesome, they need to work him into the plot more next time.

I loved how the first red shirt bought it right away too. :haha:

I liked the film, but like I said, hopefully the next one will be less like the Transformers and more like Hornblower.


Do you have any idea how much that stuff costs? It was a choice between that and captain Archar's retirement home complete with pool and orion slave girls :88)

Haha, :up:

[Steel_Tomb]

From what I remember there were planetary defences, but they were disabled when pike was forced to give them up due to the wrath of kahn rip off bugs.

I hate the new engineering thing by the way, its like the interior designer just got to that bit and though "bollocks to it"... its a mess.

[Zachstar]

Do you have any idea how much that stuff costs? It was a choice between that and captain Archar's retirement home complete with pool and orion slave girls :88)

You mean Admiral Archer :P And yes the pool is more important.

[owner20071963]

I too loved the New McCoy,
Seen him recently on Jonathan Ross Live,
Uk Series :D
Secretly told of more than 3 Flicks :D
not anymore:D
What about checov?
young but with brains,
It is a Fast n Furious Pre-Star Trek.
Its Star Trek Begins,
All over :yeah:
Like Batman,
My kids loved it,
So will yours for years to come :yeah:

[Onkel Neal]

They just announced the name of the sequel!



The Search for Spock's Mom


:O:

[Zachstar]

They just announced the name of the sequel!



The Search for Spock's Mom


:O:


You Fail... :down:

[Rhodes]

I thoroughly enjoyed this latest Trek film. It was a bit loud though... damn cinemas.

However, I heartily approve of the green skinned lass: http://www.mtv.com/photos/star-trek-trading-cards-reveal-new-images/1608105/3707828/photo.jhtml

:yeah:

Hummmm, Orion girls are always hot http://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/38.gifhttp://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/38.gifhttp://gigasmilies.googlepages.com/38.gif:yeah::rock:

[Steel_Tomb]

Wonder if we'll see Kahn again somewhere? Hehe... imagine Wrath of Kahn with modern CGI... would be awesome.

[Platapus]

Acting in General rates a B. However, non-direction of characters stunted the potential character developement.

Special Effects also get a B. They were good but nothing ground-breaking.

Story (what story?) gets a D: Was there even a Director for this movie? It felt like a few mini-stories loosely thrown together.

Continuing Transition from Star Trek as Science Fiction to Star Trek the Fantasy gets a serious F-: In the old Star Treks they used to at least acknowledge science. They ignore it completely in this film (Spock shows Scottie Scottie's invention? What a slap in the face to Scottie's original character!) A Kid on his 1st voyage gets to be Captain? Too unbelievable, too ludicrous to be tangible. The movie was actually kind of boring to me after that. Especially when Uhura fell in love with Spock because she pitied him :shifty:. That's seriously shallow even to an aging Rock musician.

My Final Grade: C/C- I enjoyed the trailer for the 2nd release of The Transformers as much as I enjoyed the whole ST movie. The best thing for me about seeing it for $5 in the theater is now I can wait for it to hit the clearance bins at Walmart before wasting money on a BlueRay Edition.

I would agree with your critique.

I don't know about the Transformer comment but then I did not like the first Transformer movie. But I think you are spot on concerning Star Trek. It could have been much better.

I think the actor who played Spock gets an A+ :up:
I think the writer who wrote Spock's part gets an F :down:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Wonder if we'll see Kahn again somewhere? Hehe... imagine Wrath of Kahn with modern CGI... would be awesome.

I hope not. Ricardo Montalban cannot be replaced as Khan.

[JALU3]

...Star Trek Movie

- A single drop of red matter can destroy a sun or a planet, and create a black hole through time and space no one can escape from. A whole beach ball of it can destroy a starship and create a black hole, easily escaped from with a few explosions. Maybe a shipload of it would have created a pretty firework.

- There is no need for an universal translator, as the entire universe has learned to speak flawless English. Either that, or the universal translator has not been programmed to cope with russian accent.

- Cheating an exam and illegally boarding a starship is okay if you can subsequently identify a trap, and it will get you an acting first officer rank. Some nerds just bother themselves with graduating from Starfleet Academy and serving some time as enseigns...

- Nokia phones are still used in the 23rd century and still use the same ringtone. They probably have changed their motto to "Connecting lifeforms", though.

- When dealing with an unruly crewmember, drop him on the nearest monster-infested planet. If he survives, he can then be made captain. This is Starfleet implementation of Darwin theories.

- Vulcans being portrayed as self-righteous and intolerant jerks is completely okay, as long as it happens in a story Braga and Bermann had nothing to do with.

- Lighting storms are the telltale sign of a Romulan trap. And all this time we were fussing about detecting cloaking devices and scanning subspace transmissions...

- The destruction of a single ship is enough to alter the timeline so that 25 years later people invented transporters with a light-year range, made contact with the Romulans and Cardassians, and could reach Vulcan in a few hours at warp 4. Maybe Starfleet should implement destroying a few starships from time to time as a policy in order to jumpstart its development.

- There is no sound in space. Someone finally told them.

- Forget the holodeck, the Enterprise is now outfitted with a giant waterslide in engineering. Now we know how Scotty used the time he gained by exaggerating his repair times.

And here are ten more:
- Exposition is always better when the person giving it is an attractive female who just happens to be undressing at the same time.

- Star Trek is now just like D&D - all adventures begin in a tavern after the obligatory barroom brawl. This movie even had random encounters and a dungeon crawl.

- If you are going to cheat on an exam you might as well violate the "no eating in the simulator" rule while you're at it.

- If your homeworld is about to be destroyed you apparently need to rescue all the old people who probably can't have kids to save your civilization, because it's the logical thing to do.

- In the future old people aren't allowed on starships, they just get in the way.

- At Starfleet Academy it is completely acceptable for a cadet to have a relationship with an instructor, but don't even think about messing with that instructor's simulation or you are in for a world of trouble.

- If you bring a sword you will always get a chance to use it, but if you bring a phaser it probably is going to get knocked from your hand.

- To promote better linguistic skills among the crew in Starfleet you have the guy whose accent the computer can't recognize do the ship wide announcements with critical instructions for the crew.

- Don't wait till after the birth of your child to pick a name. You never know if you might be rushed into a bad decision by an attack by disgruntled miners from the future.

- Never, never try to get an emotional reaction from the halfbreed, because there's a reason he's trying to hold it together. If you do get a reaction, then get ready for your face to be rearranged into a bloody smear.

[Peto]

^^^^^^ :har: That's a perfect summary!!! :har: ^^^^^^

[Peto]

I don't know about the Transformer comment but then I did not like the first Transformer movie.

My reference is to a movie that doesn't claim to be any more than a Special Effects Party (Transformers) compared to Star Trek's claim of being something more than that.


I think the actor who played Spock gets an A+ :up:
I think the writer who wrote Spock's part gets an F :down:

Agreed! Thay had the right players for the parts. They just didn't write for them imaginatively IMO.

[Platapus]

...Star Trek Movie



And here are ten more:

Where did you get these. They are great :har:

[Peto]

Wonder if we'll see Kahn again somewhere? Hehe... imagine Wrath of Kahn with modern CGI... would be awesome.

I agree with your obvious high regard of The Wrath of Khan :yeah:!!!

But: It was the story that made that episode Great, not the special effects. Special effects should support a story, not the other way around IMHO. Hence my disappointment in the latest movie....

[Steel_Tomb]

ST:WoK is my fave Star Trek film. Like you said, the story was key to its success... but I'm a real sucker for those battle scenes, so I would think it would be awesome with modern graphics to see what it would be like. Saying that, for the 1982 (was it 82?) when it came out the effects were still pretty awesome. I liked the bit where Reliant is just adrift in front of Enterprise, with sparks flying from the destroyed warp nacelle and the holes in its hull. Great stuff :D.

I loved the new film, it brought a breath of fresh air into the franchise. Which in my opinion can only do it good. Some people may not like the new film so much, but its new found popularity amongst previously non-trekies might boost Star Treks popularity as a whole. I've seen all the Star Trek films before, but it wasn't until I saw the new one last week I thought out watching them again. Two days later I bought the box set of all of the original films... and watched every one in two days lol :D. Just finished watching The Undiscovered Country a few hours ago. I had to laugh at the end with Spock's reaction to their recall to spacedock for "decomissioning", I quote:

"If I were Human, I believe my response would be... GO TO HELL"

Everyone has their opinion on the new film, personally I loved it... can't wait for the sequals. Hopefully once the franchise becomes solid again we might start to see more repeats of TOS or TNG :D. :salute:

[owner20071963]

They just announced the name of the sequel!



The Search for Spock's Mom


:O:


Wow
Great Idea,
Lets forward a Story script :D
Good to know Star Trek is
in a lotta hearts :D

[TLAM Strike]

Thoughts on Star Trek XI

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Good Things
The Vasquez Rocks site of the infamous battle between Kirk and the Gorn show up on Vulcan.
No/limited sound in space in a few sequences. Well done!

A poor crew member gets sucked out in to hard vacuum during the opening battle. Stargate, Battlestar, Enterprise, and Firefly did it already but points for trying to be original.

Explains the reason why you need to be stationary while beaming.

The redshirt during the HaLo jump. You can just sense something bad is coming.

The explanation Spock gives about how time travel creates parallel universe is spot on with the currently accepted theory on that subject.


Bad things
Product placement for Nokia and Coors beer.

Sean Pegg (Mr. Scott) and the actor that played Mr. Chekov weren't that good. Plus those characters tended to be used just as comic relief. In addition Scotty doesn't show up till the movie is over half over.

The new engineering was too industrial looking. It looked like a water treatment plant rather than a ship's engine room.

Engineering and the Shuttle bay were too massive looking. High ceilings with lots of catwalks along with seemingly no compartmentalization have to make damage control impossible... pfft Star Fleet engineers...

When the Romulan ship dangles the drill down to Vulcan its at a much lower orbit than would be required for a geostationary orbit. In reality that drill would be cutting a swath of destruction across the planet. Unless of course Vulcan rotates at a massively slower rate than Earth which is unlikely since IIRC Vulcan is seismically active according the TMP.

Speaking of the Romulan Ship what is with Sci Fi ships and big pits of doom?

Bones doesn't say his other signature line, but on the flip side the movie just seems to reuse old lines as in-jokes.

That three foot tall alien that hangs out with Scotty. Yea he really advances the plot... Did he even have a line?

Nurse Chapel had a thing for Spock in TOS but in the movie its Uhura. Speaking of Chapel she only get a mention and never shows up. While there isn't a hint that Yeoman Rand is aboard. Same with some of the other well known secondary characters like Mr. Kyle and LT. Relly.

The common heritage between the Romulans and Vulcans is now well known. Well that just spits on one of the best TOS episodes.

I miss the analog buttons on the panels. A lot of the signature Enterprise controls are gone. The Anti-Glare shield that Spock always looked in to for the sensors readings is gone. The pop up targeting computer Sulu used for aiming the phasers and photos is gone. The hand grips the crew hand to turn to make the turbolifts go are absent. I'm sorry this new ship just doesn't feel like our beloved NCC 1701 (no bloody A,B,C,D,E, or G).

Time travel though black holes. By them selves not possible, according to Einstein you need to put a wormhole in th event horizon of a black hole and even them you can only travel back in time to the point which that is done.

The Warp Drive nacelles have afterburners. I'm all for Newtonian Physics but come on! Engines that WARP space need to produce thrust too?

“Red Matter”, well its RED and its some kind of MATTER oh and a tiny drop creates black holes. Why did the Vulcans in the future create this and put it on their fastest ship? Hmmmm sounds like a first strike weapon to me!



Oh and finaly and someone here had a problem with the moon of Vulcan not being pulled in to the blackhole that was created with the planet. This is infact accurate. Since no matter is created or destroyed in any reaction the blackhole simply is all the matter of Vulcan compressed in to a much smaller area. The gravity would remain the same.

[Onkel Neal]

And it all began with this document... (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/40_years/trek_pitch.pdf):shucks:

[Platapus]

And it all began with this document... (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/misc/40_years/trek_pitch.pdf):shucks:


That is way cool! Thanks for posting :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

I just saw it, and on the whole I liked it. I hated every single one of the "kinder, gentler" Star Treks, which tried to be better Trek but usually wasn't very good science fiction. With this we're back to the good old kick 'em hard and blow 'em up Trek, which is silly action-adventure but at least good fun.

This was Majel Barrett's last work before she died - one last time she was the computer voice.

[Geno_Mariner]

I watched it on Sunday. And I must say I really liked it. Even my non-ST friend enjoyed some of it :up:

Now I can't throw around any crits or anything like that since I only have watched Star Trek Voyager (got Season 1 and 2). I haven't seen the originals or TNG or any others... yet. But good movie got some laughs out of it too :DL

[Onkel Neal]

I just saw it, and on the whole I liked it. I hated every single one of the "kinder, gentler" Star Treks, which tried to be better Trek but usually wasn't very good science fiction. With this we're back to the good old kick 'em hard and blow 'em up Trek, which is silly action-adventure but at least good fun.

This was Majel Barrett's last work before she died - one last time she was the computer voice.


Yeah, I heard that too about Mrs. Roddenberry, last December I believe. :cry:


I watched it on Sunday. And I must say I really liked it. Even my non-ST friend enjoyed some of it :up:

Now I can't throw around any crits or anything like that since I only have watched Star Trek Voyager (got Season 1 and 2). I haven't seen the originals or TNG or any others... yet. But good movie got some laughs out of it too :DL


No kidding? Wow, are you lucky, you get to experience it for the first time. :yeah:

I recommend beginning early in Season 1, say with Balance of Terror. (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=619493214&pid=4WCY_KBaeHw8FzW7Usdy01inaxvMhl4g&play=true) Interestingly, this battle scene was played out like a destroyer/submarine enagagement.

[Geno_Mariner]

Yeah, I heard that too about Mrs. Roddenberry, last December I believe. :cry:





No kidding? Wow, are you lucky, you get to experience it for the first time. :yeah:

I recommend beginning early in Season 1, say with Balance of Terror. (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=619493214&pid=4WCY_KBaeHw8FzW7Usdy01inaxvMhl4g&play=true) Interestingly, this battle scene was played out like a destroyer/submarine enagagement.

Yeah first time :D

I can't see the vid since it's not set for my geographical region :wah: But I'll have a good look around and see if I can find a place where I can view the ep :up:

[SpeedyPC]

What would it be like to hop in bed with a good looking young green sexy woman http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6172/a1151bj2.gif( . )( . )

[Peto]

I recommend beginning early in Season 1, say with Balance of Terror. (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=619493214&pid=4WCY_KBaeHw8FzW7Usdy01inaxvMhl4g&play=true) Interestingly, this battle scene was played out like a destroyer/submarine enagagement.

Great Choice in episodes :yeah:!!!! That's my favorite one! I remember watching it when I was a kid (when the episode 1st aired) and it made me a Trek fan from that moment on.

[TLAM Strike]

No kidding? Wow, are you lucky, you get to experience it for the first time. :yeah:

I recommend beginning early in Season 1, say with Balance of Terror. (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=619493214&pid=4WCY_KBaeHw8FzW7Usdy01inaxvMhl4g&play=true) Interestingly, this battle scene was played out like a destroyer/submarine enagagement.

I'd also recomend, 'The Doomsday Machine', 'Arena', 'City of the Edge of Forever' and the classic 'The Trouble with Tribbles'. Along with Balance of Terror those are probaly the top five episodes of the TOS.

[Geno_Mariner]

I'd also recomend, 'The Doomsday Machine', 'Arena', 'City of the Edge of Forever' and the classic 'The Trouble with Tribbles'. Along with Balance of Terror those are probaly the top five episodes of the TOS.


I'll check 'em out :yeah:

[Sailor Steve]

I recommend beginning early in Season 1, say with Balance of Terror. (http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php?cid=619493214&pid=4WCY_KBaeHw8FzW7Usdy01inaxvMhl4g&play=true) Interestingly, this battle scene was played out like a destroyer/submarine enagagement.
That would probably be because it was almost a direct rip-off of The Enemy Below. I recognized that when I saw it the first time around back in '66 or so. Not knocking it though - I loved that episode.

[Sailor Steve]

I also liked the original Pilot episode, with Jeffrey Hunter as captain Christopher Pike, Majel Barrett as "Number One" and Leonard Nimoy as a very excitable, not-so-logical Mr. Spock.

But I mentioned that once before.

[owner20071963]

1 Question :D
Will they make a Game from This? :hmmm:

[Platapus]

1 Question :D
Will they make a Game from This? :hmmm:

In looking at some of the scenes of the movie and how they were filmed, I would say this is a lock.

[owner20071963]

A New game based on this Movie
would Rock :yeah:

[Sledgehammer427]

i wouldnt mind seeing a new bridge commander-ish kinda game

[CastleBravo]

Not to be missed? It'll be on the TV soon. I won't miss it.

[Rilder]

Too much action and CGI, not enough plot.

On games: Well the Star Trek MMO is coming.

[Platapus]

Too much action and CGI, not enough plot.




Good concise summary. :yeah:

[TheSatyr]

As someone who saw the TOS when the episodes originally aired (course I was only 6 or 7 when the first season aired).I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by this movie. It was far better than I expected it to be.

[owner20071963]

Its here the official release for Star Trek Online,
April 2010,
Announced on Gamespot,
Here is a sneak preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Ug52fz5_k

[owner20071963]

i wouldnt mind seeing a new bridge commander-ish kinda game

Would it not be like SH, but in Space?
Great game,
lets hope,
Simulation at its best :D

[Rilder]

Would it not be like SH, but in Space?
Great game,
lets hope,
Simulation at its best :D

I had a pretty awesome Idea for a silent hunter style game in space, it wouldn't be about Star Trek though.

[owner20071963]

I had a pretty awesome Idea for a silent hunter style game in space, it wouldn't be about Star Trek though.

Bring it on :yeah:

[Task Force]

Game looks good... very nice effects also.:yep:

[owner20071963]

Did you see Arnold [I'll Be Back] in Terminator Salvation?
Looks like Star Trek Prelude :D

[Sailor Steve]

Wasn't Arnold.
Arnold Schwarzennegger declined to cameo in the film, stating that a brief appearance would be cheating the audience.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/trivia

The new Terminator Salvation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_Salvation) is set to reveal the origin of the 101 Model. Roland Kickinger was cast as the principal actor but director McG used CGI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CGI) to reconstruct an authentic 1984 Arnold back to the screen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(character)

[owner20071963]

Beg to differ he gave his full approval on the cgi effect :D

[Sailor Steve]

Beg to differ he gave his full approval on the cgi effect :D
1) You didn't say it looked like him, you said it was him "Did you see Arnold...?"

2) I gave a link (two actually) for my statement. Please give one your yours. (I believe that he must have, or they couldn't have used it. Still, I like to see verification.)

[owner20071963]

1) You didn't say it looked like him, you said it was him "Did you see Arnold...?"

2) I gave a link (two actually) for my statement. Please give one your yours. (I believe that he must have, or they couldn't have used it. Still, I like to see verification.)

Well here it is You decide,

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/04/23/will-arnolds-cameo-make-or-break-terminator-salvation/

Lets keep this thread to Star Trek :D:D

[owner20071963]

Will the follow up be as Good?
Star Trek 2 :D????

[Castout]

time traveling has been done too many times already....I'm disappointed by the movie plot!:shifty:. I was looking for a fresh story not a recycled plot.

[owner20071963]

time traveling has been done too many times already....I'm disappointed by the movie plot!:shifty:. I was looking for a fresh story not a recycled plot.


Fresh you got Bigtime its 2009,
Or is it Re-Fresh? :salute:

[Castout]

Fresh you got Bigtime its 2009,
Or is it Re-Fresh? :salute:

You see when the last tv series with Capt Archer involved time traveler I would expect the new Star Trek movie to offer anything aside from time traveler type of plot. Well I guess I was wrong...I wanted to see epic story epic battle epic struggle because it's a movie not a tv series instead the bad guy is just a mining ship from some years ahead. Sure there ar actions everywhere and terrific aniamtion effects but the story is kind of lame. Give us better next time.

[Rhodes]

I wanted to see epic story epic battle epic struggle because it's a movie not a tv series instead the bad guy is just a mining ship from some years ahead. Sure there ar actions everywhere and terrific aniamtion effects but the story is kind of lame. Give us better next time.:salute:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Will the follow up be as Good?
Star Trek 2 :D????

Star Trek 12, you mean?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Just saw this recently and really enjoyed it. Thought they covered the characters well and I look forward to what comes next.

[TLAM Strike]

time traveling has been done too many times already....I'm disappointed by the movie plot!:shifty:. I was looking for a fresh story not a recycled plot. Its hard to find a Sci Fi plot that hasn't been done already. If Star Trek hasn't done it than Star Gate has and if not then Dr. Who has...

There is really only about 20 diffrent scripts in Sci Fi they just change things like Capt. Kirk to Col. Sheppard, Cybermen to Borg or Tricorder to Sonic Screwdriver and bam! a new episode is written.

[Safe-Keeper]

It's probably been posted already, even though I couldn't find it when I skimmed the thread, but:Trekkies bash new ST movie as fun, watchable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM) :DL
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9113/stxicanon1.gif

Wow. Canon, arrows, Yesterday's Enterprise, manual fringe, fictional time... all that just to say "I don't like it, it doesn't count"?

Wow, if only Star Wars fans were as creative. We're left with saying "this new prequel trilogy is full of contradictions":nope:.

I'm wondering if Trekkies wouldn't make excellent Bible scholars, though. The mental gymnastics they're capable of when it comes to solving the disrepancies, contradictions and misunderstandings of laws of nature in Star Trek would make a bishop swoon:rotfl:. In fact, I wonder if... yes!

EDIT: Nah. Don't wanna derail the thread into yet another flamefest on Jewish mythology.
Amen!

[Buddahaid]

Star Trek is, and always has been science fantasy/adventure. Science fiction involves known science, or nearly known science as a key element to plot development. ST builds plots and then makes up fantasy science to fit. Yes, it uses devices that will require a greater scientific knowledge to build, but the message has always been more of a social study than true science fiction. The term is an overused generality that has become a label for any future story.

Buddahaid

[Rhodes]

At least Bernd Schneider's tries to justify and foundament his opinions, maps, inconsistences, ships designs, warp field teories..errr, etc! And in my opinion he does it quite well. And has always, one can agree or not!

Star Trek is old knows know, Wensday and/or Thursday that the new blockbuster hits...(in Uk it already hited).

[danurve]

http://www.sfsignal.com/mt-static/images/greenBabes.jpg

mmmmm green chicks. :arrgh!:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I think Chang enjoyed the new film too (http://chang.ytmnd.com/)

[Rhodes]

http://www.sfsignal.com/mt-static/images/greenBabes.jpg

mmmmm green chicks. :arrgh!:

Veena as orion, hmmmmmm!!!:/\\k: (only kiss smile)