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Aramike

04-24-09, 01:10 PM

The Superbowl in London??? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/american_football/8016358.stm

The NFL has had "substantive talks" with officials in London about holding the Super Bowl in the city, a senior league official has told BBC Sport. While commissioner Roger Goodell has previously admitted an interest in bringing the game to London, this is the first confirmation of discussions. I sincerely hopes this falls through. I have no problem with London or the Brits, but American Football is manifestly an American game, through and through. To make its biggest event (which involves only American teams no less) occur outside our borders is just wrong.

Kapitan_Phillips

04-24-09, 01:24 PM

The Superbowl in London??? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/american_football/8016358.stm

I sincerely hopes this falls through. I have no problem with London or the Brits, but American Football is manifestly an American game, through and through. To make its biggest event (which involves only American teams no less) occur outside our borders is just wrong.

:nope: Thats totally the wrong attitude. You would be suprised just how many NFL fans are here in the UK and throughout Europe.

I remember reading that after the success of the regular season games in Wembley, there were talks about London getting its own team and the NFL becoming more international, but I doubt thats going to happen anytime soon after the closure of NFL Europe.

Why not let Britain experience the magic of the Superbowl up close? The event might even teach our goddamn soccer fans how to properly behave at a sporting event.

SteamWake

04-24-09, 01:33 PM

WTF last I heard the NFL was having financial issues already :doh:

So yea, this makes total sense.

Aramike

04-24-09, 01:37 PM

:nope: Thats totally the wrong attitude. You would be suprised just how many NFL fans are here in the UK and throughout Europe.

I remember reading that after the success of the regular season games in Wembley, there were talks about London getting its own team and the NFL becoming more international, but I doubt thats going to happen anytime soon after the closure of NFL Europe.

Why not let Britain experience the magic of the Superbowl up close? The event might even teach our goddamn soccer fans how to properly behave at a sporting event.I understand that there are NFL fans in the UK, but it's not a slight to them by saying that the championship game of an American sport with includes only American participants, and is primarily supported financially by American spectators and fans, should be played in the US.

Similarly, I would think it would be foolish for, say, the Premier League to play its championship in the US because there are fans of that league over here.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not opposed to a game here and there (as long as it's not MY team's home game). Just not the championship.

Kapitan_Phillips

04-24-09, 01:38 PM

I understand, I just want the chance to go see the big one without paying through my buttcrease to fly there :(

mr chris

04-24-09, 01:41 PM

Now if this came true i would do any thing to be there i was not be able to get my hand on a ticket for the game in 2007 and 2008 and missed out for the Pats game this year also. Bring the Super Bowl to London would blow me away. I just hope my luck ticket wise might change by then.;)

Though im planing a trip to the USA so the wife and me can see are teams play in there own backyard. Will cost a bucket load of cash but hell it will be worth it.

Aramike

04-24-09, 01:44 PM

I understand, I just want the chance to go see the big one without paying through my buttcrease to fly there :(I feel for ya, man. A feel more true pigskin fans like yourself on your side of the pond, who knows - maybe a team will be in order?

Kapitan_Phillips

04-24-09, 02:58 PM

I feel for ya, man. A feel more true pigskin fans like yourself on your side of the pond, who knows - maybe a team will be in order?

I can see it now...

"British Bulldogs win Superbowl 65 - Disgrace to Football posted by Aramike"

:haha::haha: I'm just screwing with ya. You never know, perhaps I might even play :salute:

nikimcbee

04-24-09, 03:03 PM

Kapitan_Phillips

04-24-09, 03:44 PM

Yes another victory! KP called it soccer, not football! :woot: It must be the ears:haha:.

:up: Is it true that at NFL games, people are immediately ejected if they become too unruly?

ReallyDedPoet

04-24-09, 03:47 PM

:up: Is it true that at NFL games, people are immediately ejected if they become too unruly?

I have not been to one, but I don't doubt it. It seems over here you **** around, you get put out on your ass.

Jimbuna

04-24-09, 03:49 PM

Whatever next.....the FA Cup final in the USA :doh:

Kapitan_Phillips

04-24-09, 03:53 PM

I have not been to one, but I don't doubt it. It seems over here you **** around, you get put out on your ass.

My dad and I had a discussion about it in the car once. (Even though he's a Saints fan *spit*) An NFL game seems like a really great day out for the whole family, whereas an average soccer game is just for middle aged hooligans who get violent when they lose.

(no offense to any soccer fans here)

Aramike

04-24-09, 04:01 PM

I can see it now...

"British Bulldogs win Superbowl 65 - Disgrace to Football posted by Aramike"

:haha::haha: I'm just screwing with ya. You never know, perhaps I might even play :salute::haha:
That would be a disgrace to American teams, yes. Ha!
Is it true that at NFL games, people are immediately ejected if they become too unruly?Most stadiums I've been to have a "one warning and out" policy. You sure as hell don't see some of the European soccer behavior at NFL games...

August

04-24-09, 05:56 PM

Most stadiums I've been to have a "one warning and out" policy. You sure as hell don't see some of the European soccer behavior at NFL games...

Nope. The NFL goes to great lengths to keep it family entertainment.

SteamWake

04-24-09, 10:20 PM

Nope. The NFL goes to great lengths to keep it family entertainment.

Espically them cheerleaders... mmm yummy... :rotfl:

Frame57

04-24-09, 11:45 PM

Oh Ja! Ich Liebe Janet Jackson's boobies......:woot:

XabbaRus

04-25-09, 03:10 AM

Aramike

04-25-09, 04:07 AM

Well I don't see the big problem, AFAIK there are a few British premier teams who are thinking fo having league matches abroad.

I can however understand why Aramike thinks it is unfair since for your fan in the US who would go it would cost a lot of money. On the other hand with the pound down the toilet you might get a good deal.You need to understand - we're not just talking about a football game here. I'm quite alright with teams electing to play one or two games abroad.

What we are talking about is the Superbowl - the championship game. To me it does a disservice to fans to take the ultimate contest which THEY supported overseas. It's like saying, "hey, thanks, but your dollars have only gotten us this far. We're going to take you for granted and pursue further ducats overseas."

It's a total "F.U." to the fans who made this sport great.

Again, a game here and there, I'm quite alright with. But, THE game? Not so much...

clive bradbury

04-25-09, 10:05 AM

If someone wants a family day out at a game in the UK, then follow the oval ball game. No problems with violence at Rugby Union and League games (except on the pitch).

Personally, I think we are a long way form the Superbowl in London. I am a fan, and have been to the last two Wembley games, and am going to the next one.

However the next logical step is a London-based NFL franchise, and I suspect that is closer than you think. Once that is established, then surely that team can bid for the Superbowl along with all US-based teams.

So, whilst the SB in London is not impossible, it is a good while off yet. Quite rightly, too. I wouldn't want to see the Rugby Union Premiership game played in New York just to promote the sport over there - regular season games, fine, but not the showpiece.

Digital_Trucker

04-25-09, 10:47 AM

To all of those folks that are against the "game not to be mentioned by name unless you pay the NFL a royalty" being played in London, how many of you have ever been to one or can afford to go to one?

Personally, I don't have a skunks chance in a perfume store of ever attending one, so, if they want to have one in London, let them have at it. Just don't play it at 8AM Eastern time:D

I would venture to say that anyone who can afford to go to the "game not to be...................." can afford the round trip to London.

August

04-25-09, 12:40 PM

Oh Ja! Ich Liebe Janet Jackson's boobies......:woot:

And look at the big stink that little brown nipple caused.

Jimbuna

04-25-09, 01:24 PM

OMG!! :o

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b135/TruGeorgiaPeach/operation_Michael_Jackson.jpg

Aramike

04-25-09, 02:46 PM

So, whilst the SB in London is not impossible, it is a good while off yet. Quite rightly, too. I wouldn't want to see the Rugby Union Premiership game played in New York just to promote the sport over there - regular season games, fine, but not the showpiece.Precisely.To all of those folks that are against the "game not to be mentioned by name unless you pay the NFL a royalty" being played in London, how many of you have ever been to one or can afford to go to one?

Personally, I don't have a skunks chance in a perfume store of ever attending one, so, if they want to have one in London, let them have at it. Just don't play it at 8AM Eastern time:D

I would venture to say that anyone who can afford to go to the "game not to be...................." can afford the round trip to London.I've been to a few.

In any case, sure, I could afford a trip to London - but I shouldn't HAVE to travel to London to attend the championship of an American game.

August

04-25-09, 06:38 PM

I've been to a few.

A few super bowls? Tickets to those sell for thousands of dollars don't they?

Aramike

04-25-09, 07:33 PM

A few super bowls? Tickets to those sell for thousands of dollars don't they?I've bought tickets to a couple, but I've been to others as gifts from companies I've worked with.

But when I bought the tickets I think they were only around $1800 after market both times. What really got to me was the $150 for parking I paid one year.

Kapitan_Phillips

04-25-09, 07:38 PM

$150 for parking!?!

I think I'll stick to Madden :haha:

Aramike

04-26-09, 04:01 AM

$150 for parking!?!

I think I'll stick to Madden :haha:Even more ridiculous is the average of around $1700 a year smokers spend on cigarrettes.

I bring that up (as a former smoker, nonetheless) because a friend of mine and I were just talking about the costs of attending the Superbowl, which came up due to this thread. He tried explaining to me that I was nuts to have paid to attend said games in the past due to their expense (if you know my wife and I personally, you'd understand that we are notoriously cheap and picky with our money, despite being fairly well-off). As he's explaining how crazy I am, he goes all-in in our Hold 'Em game for $120 and lights his 3rd smoke of the hour (true story).

After taking his money, I asked him if he wanted to hit the game with me in 2010. He explained that its too expensive. I responded that, if he'd quit smoking and stop betting the farm on a straight when there's clearly a flush on the board he'd have more than enough extra money to use, he went quite quiet.

I know this anecdote (true as it is) isn't really related to the topic, but I couldn't help myself with the irony - had I said I was a smoker no one would bat an eyelash at my $1500 - $2000/year habit. Mention that I buy Superbowl tickets every so often, and its a shocker.

Just wanted to illustrate this as a lesson in human perspective. It interests me because my reaction would have been no different. :know:

Jimbuna

04-26-09, 08:47 AM

Even more ridiculous is the average of around $1700 a year smokers spend on cigarrettes.

I bring that up (as a former smoker, nonetheless) because a friend of mine and I were just talking about the costs of attending the Superbowl, which came up due to this thread. He tried explaining to me that I was nuts to have paid to attend said games in the past due to their expense (if you know my wife and I personally, you'd understand that we are notoriously cheap and picky with our money, despite being fairly well-off). As he's explaining how crazy I am, he goes all-in in our Hold 'Em game for $120 and lights his 3rd smoke of the hour (true story).

After taking his money, I asked him if he wanted to hit the game with me in 2010. He explained that its too expensive. I responded that, if he'd quit smoking and stop betting the farm on a straight when there's clearly a flush on the board he'd have more than enough extra money to use, he went quite quiet.

I know this anecdote (true as it is) isn't really related to the topic, but I couldn't help myself with the irony - had I said I was a smoker no one would bat an eyelash at my $1500 - $2000/year habit. Mention that I buy Superbowl tickets every so often, and its a shocker.

Just wanted to illustrate this as a lesson in human perspective. It interests me because my reaction would have been no different. :know:

A fine anecdote/analogy if you don't mind me saying :up:

I'm afraid I'd fit into your friends category :doh:

August

04-26-09, 09:30 AM

A fine anecdote/analogy if you don't mind me saying :up:

I'm afraid I'd fit into your friends category :doh:

I'm coming up on 2 years since my last cigarette. If I can do it anyone can.

Jimbuna

04-26-09, 09:48 AM

I'm coming up on 2 years since my last cigarette. If I can do it anyone can.

I admire your will power :up:....I've tried and failed on numerous occasions in the past. Three months is my best effort and to be totally honest I can't say anything in particular started me off again :doh:

August

04-26-09, 10:02 AM

I admire your will power :up:....I've tried and failed on numerous occasions in the past. Three months is my best effort and to be totally honest I can't say anything in particular started me off again :doh:

I had a long record of failures as well. What seems to have finally done it was having a heart attack scare me off them long enough for the length of quit time to become a reason in itself for not succumbing to the temptation.

After all there's a lot more pride in saying it's been "6 months" or "a year" or now almost "2 years" since i last smoked than just "last week".

Jimbuna

04-26-09, 11:00 AM

I had a long record of failures as well. What seems to have finally done it was having a heart attack scare me off them long enough for the length of quit time to become a reason in itself for not succumbing to the temptation.

After all there's a lot more pride in saying it's been "6 months" or "a year" or now almost "2 years" since i last smoked than just "last week".

Now that really concerns me......about three years back I was involved with something work related that was extremely stressful and after the usual symptoms 'chest pain and tightness, combined with breathlesness' had the force doctor suspecting a possible heart attack. He gave me an ECG and sent me for blood tests and a chest x-ray.

Thankfully I got the all clear and it was put down to fatigue/stress.....but my fag intake actually increased. :oops:

Aramike

04-26-09, 12:21 PM

I had a long record of failures as well. What seems to have finally done it was having a heart attack scare me off them long enough for the length of quit time to become a reason in itself for not succumbing to the temptation.

After all there's a lot more pride in saying it's been "6 months" or "a year" or now almost "2 years" since i last smoked than just "last week".I'm literally afraid to even have a single smoke at this point due to the pride I have in not having smoked for so long.

I don't usually preach to smokers about quitting but let me tell you jimbuna, medication is THE way to go. I used the patch and lozenges. Worked like a charm. :rock: