Steam Download and GWX 3.0

[Jnadorff]

I downloaded the game from Steam, ran the game once to be sure it worked, closed it down and tried to install GWX 3.0. I got the error message that mods had to be removed before installation. Only problem is I just installed the game and have no mods installed. Has anyone run into this before, and if so how do I correct it. Any help would be appreciated.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

You need to first patch your base installation of Silent Hunter III to version 1.4b.

Otherwise the GWX mod will fail to install or will install incorrectly.

[Jnadorff]

You need to first patch your base installation of Silent Hunter III to version 1.4b.

Otherwise the GWX mod will fail to install or will install incorrectly.


When I started the game it showed version 1.4 in the lower right corner, so I assumed no patch was needed. I followed your advice however and downloaded the patch for downloads and tried to apply it. When I did, I got the error message that the program can not update the installed copy US download version 1.0 to 1.3 for the following reason: c:\program files (x86)steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3\data\menu\de_menu.txt: unknown version. What else could be causing this problem? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[A Very Super Market]

You don't need to patch it. You already are on patch 1.4, so it obviously won't work.

You can't move the game folder outside of steamapps, or it won't recognize it. Doesn't matter, really. Install 3.0, and then you can play.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

That is odd.

Jnadorff, hang in there. We've run into other players with this same sort of issue. I just can't recall what the solution is. We'll get you sorted, though it may not be tonight. Forcing a GWX installation over the top of what you have may likely cause you problems later.

If it is just a matter of pointing the GWX installer to a directory other than the default, then there shouldn't be a problem unless it detects a corrupt or altered Silent Hunter III file.

Just so I understand the problem clearly... you've never had SH3 on your PC before at all?

Keep us posted and I'll make sure this thread gets the right eyeballs to get ya fixed up.:arrgh!:

[danlisa]

As I avoid Steam like the plague this is my only suggestion and if you think it can be accomplished safely, it maybe worth the effort.Firstly, I suspect that your current install is slaved to the Steam shell and this may cause GWX's intelligent installer some problems.I assume this is your install path?

C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunter III\

I suggest that you Copy the entire Silent Hunter III directory (complete install) to another location. Then uninstall or delete the Steam version and then (this is the important step) run a registry cleaner to remove the referencing link between Steam and SH3. You should now be able to use the copied version (from it's current location) of SH3 without it being linked to Steam (that is unless Steam have a modified EXE file, which is also fixable ;)).

Secondly, GWX's installer should have created a txt dump on your desktop detailing the specifics of the errors. Did you get one? Something like this:

DEBUG: Test 1 PASSED
DEBUG: Test 2 PASSED Version is 1.4.0.1
DEBUG: Test 3 PASSED
DEBUG: Test 4 FAILED Size is 6760734
DEBUG: Test 5 FAILED Size is 70298
DEBUG: Test 6 Seems to have PASSED IF Size is not Zero - Size is 1138405

Edit - Also, are you using XP or Vista?

[Snorkle]

I suspect that your current install is slaved to the Steam shell and this may cause GWX's intelligent installer some problems.I assume this is your install path?

C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunter III\

I suggest that you Copy the entire Silent Hunter III directory (complete install) to another location.

I have much the same problem.

I copied the game directory to my D: drive and successfully applied GWX3 to the copied location, but when trying to launch the game I get a "load error A:0000065558" from Steam shell - supposedly Steam is still pointed to the C: installation.

Then uninstall or delete the Steam version and then (this is the important step) run a registry cleaner to remove the referencing link between Steam and SH3.
I haven't dared do this yet because I'm afraid I' won't be able to backup the installation if needed, and I fear losing ongoing careers. Guess there's just one way to know eh?


You should now be able to use the copied version (from it's current location) of SH3 without it being linked to Steam (that is unless Steam have a modified EXE file, which is also fixable ;)).

How do you fix the exe? I tried looking through the registry (run: regedit) but couldn't find the pertinent values.

I've queried Valve's support but the jury's still out on how to disassociate Steam from running 3rd party exe's.

[danlisa]

Don't do anything you're not comfortable about, like I said I'm talking about solutions I have no experience with but are sound in theory.

I copied the game directory to my D: drive and successfully applied GWX3 to the copied location, but when trying to launch the game I get a "load error A:0000065558" from Steam shell - supposedly Steam is still pointed to the C: installation.As I feared, Steam utilises a modified exe or process intercept to ensure that the owner can only run the game within the shell. What would happen if you copied back in the GWX modded version to the Steam default location (Create another backup to be safe).

FWIW, this is why I hate Steam, it allows you no freedom on the content you own.

Lets leave the exe out of this for a moment (it's a last resort). Conduct another Registry search and specifically search for SH3.exe or the Steam path for the installation directory. Within the results, you should be able to find a pointer reference which directs all initiated SH3 processes to the Steam default shell. You should then be able to point it to your GWX modded copy on D: (there maybe more than 1 reference).

Alternatively, sit tight for a bit to see if anyone else has suggestions.

[Snorkle]

I think I'll simply save the ongoing careers separately and apply GWX to the C: install. If it doesn't work I guess I can always delete and reinstall to the stock 1.4 version, either via Steam or from the backup CD image files.

Thanks for your help, it's much appreciated.

[Rommer69]

When I started the game it showed version 1.4 in the lower right corner, so I assumed no patch was needed. I followed your advice however and downloaded the patch for downloads and tried to apply it. When I did, I got the error message that the program can not update the installed copy US download version 1.0 to 1.3 for the following reason: c:\program files (x86)steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3\data\menu\de_menu.txt: unknown version. What else could be causing this problem? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

The same happened to me, but with the stock game. Go to that folder and delete those .txt files, then try again to install 1.4b patch
:yeah:

[danlisa]

When I started the game it showed version 1.4 in the lower right corner, so I assumed no patch was needed. I followed your advice however and downloaded the patch for downloads and tried to apply it. When I did, I got the error message that the program can not update the installed copy US download version 1.0 to 1.3 for the following reason: c:\program files (x86)steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3\data\menu\de_menu.txt: unknown version. What else could be causing this problem? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

The same happened to me, but with the stock game. Go to that folder and delete those .txt files, then try again to install 1.4b patch
:yeah:

No, No!

Jnadorff's copy is already patched to 1.4b. What you describe is the workaround for an unpatched copy.

[Jnadorff]

No, No!

Jnadorff's copy is already patched to 1.4b. What you describe is the workaround for an unpatched copy.


I probably should have mentioned that I use Vista 64 bit. I originally purchased the DVD version of the game when it first came out, and used it without problem on my XP machine. When I replaced my computer a couple of months ago I was unable to install the game because of StarForce on the DVD and consequently bought the Steam download version. The Steam version ran perfectly when I first started it up but the GWX program simply doesn't want to install. I guess I should have bought the download from D2D instead of Steam. I appreciate all the help I am getting so I'll keep trying.

[Jnadorff]

The path the GWX program is trying to install is: c:\Program Files (x86)\ UbiSoft\Silent Hunter III. The problem probably is that the bulk of the Silent Hunter III installation is actually in the Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3 folder. There is very little in the folder GWX is trying to use. Perhaps if I browse to Steam folder the installation will work. Think that might work?

[owner20071963]

Its a Vista Issue,
I also use vista 64,
Firstly Vista 64 creates a Programme File,
called Programme Files (x86)
This is the Folder you need to Install the game to,
It will create a Ubisoft Folder there,
Run your GWX.3.0 exe As Administrator,
This will Overide Your steam Shell,
Point the GWX.3.0 exe file to,
Programme Files (x86) Ubisoft Folder,
Or by running it As Administrator,
GWX 3.0 exe will find that Ubisoft Folder,
Allways run Game Patches etc,As Administrator,
This will make your Game Compatibile to Vista,
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[Snorkle]

The path the GWX program is trying to install is: c:\Program Files (x86)\ UbiSoft\Silent Hunter III. The problem probably is that the bulk of the Silent Hunter III installation is actually in the Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3 folder. There is very little in the folder GWX is trying to use. Perhaps if I browse to Steam folder the installation will work. Think that might work?

Yes. The upgrade should go through alright. Although the steam exe problem may still be in effect.

[Jnadorff]

I tried running the software as administrator but got the same error message. Seems like Steam just doesn't want to play nice!

[danlisa]

The path the GWX program is trying to install is: c:\Program Files (x86)\ UbiSoft\Silent Hunter III. The problem probably is that the bulk of the Silent Hunter III installation is actually in the Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3 folder. There is very little in the folder GWX is trying to use. Perhaps if I browse to Steam folder the installation will work. Think that might work?

Yes, if that's where the core SH3 files.

[owner20071963]

I tried running the software as administrator but got the same error message. Seems like Steam just doesn't want to play nice!
Uninstall the game,
Then reinstall it to Programme files (x86)
It should create a Ubisoft folder there,
Now run your GWX.exe file as Administrator,
it will follow it into the files (x86),
Try that

[Jnadorff]

At last! Success!!! Just to document this for others who may experience the same problem, the Steam download is apparently already patched to version 1.4 so no patch is necessary. The problem I was having is that Steam doesn't install the game into the normal C:\Program files (x86) \Ubisoft\Silent hunter 3 folder that the GWX installer is seeking. I had to browse to C:\Program files (86) \Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3. The GWX installer then found what it needed and installed flawlessly. I started the program up and everything seems to work properly but I won't know for certain till I have time to experiment a little further. I just want to thank everyone who responded so quickly and with so many suggestions. This is the best response I have ever experienced with a user forum. Thanks again!

[owner20071963]

I guessed,
Programme files (x86) works,
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[Kpt. Lehmann]

At last! Success!!! Just to document this for others who may experience the same problem, the Steam download is apparently already patched to version 1.4 so no patch is necessary. The problem I was having is that Steam doesn't install the game into the normal C:\Program files (x86) \Ubisoft\Silent hunter 3 folder that the GWX installer is seeking. I had to browse to C:\Program files (86) \Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter 3. The GWX installer then found what it needed and installed flawlessly. I started the program up and everything seems to work properly but I won't know for certain till I have time to experiment a little further. I just want to thank everyone who responded so quickly and with so many suggestions. This is the best response I have ever experienced with a user forum. Thanks again!

Jnadorff, glad you are sorted.:up:

Will document the solution to assist future GWX users.

Hopefully, not too many will DL SH3 from Steam.:ping:

[owner20071963]

Jnadorff, glad you are sorted.:up:

Will document the solution to assist future GWX users.

Hopefully, not too many will DL SH3 from Steam.:ping:


Spot on Kpt :up:

Vista 64bit is the Future in Gaming.
We learn as we go

[A Very Super Market]

Yikes, sorry I didn't get here earlier. I could have saved you guys a lot of trouble.

Yes, steam works with GWX as well as all mods. I play a lot of my games from steam, and keeping them within the steam folder is all you need to limit them to. Mods are all okay.