View Full Version : I feel sorry for Americans this Easter
clive bradbury
04-10-09, 05:53 AM
...because in the UK we can watch the three new (and final) episodes of the greatest science fiction TV series ever to grace our screens - 'Red Dwarf'.
I know what I am doing this weekend. Watching what happens when the crew finally return to Earth.
One program that I always thought should have been made was an episode of Star Trek TNG where they encounter Starbug and its crew. The culture clash between the politically correct 'up their own arses' Enterprise crew and Rimmer and his cronies would have surely been priceless.
Ever seen the pilot episode for the canceled American Red Dwarf remake?
They butchered it worse than they butchered The Office.
clive bradbury
04-10-09, 06:51 AM
I hadn't heard about it, Letum. Just taken a look, and I see what you mean. I think there are certain shows that are simply classics and as such cannot be reproduced.
Kapitan_Phillips
04-10-09, 08:29 AM
...because in the UK we can watch the three new (and final) episodes of the greatest science fiction TV series ever to grace our screens - 'Red Dwarf'.
I know what I am doing this weekend. Watching what happens when the crew finally return to Earth.
One program that I always thought should have been made was an episode of Star Trek TNG where they encounter Starbug and its crew. The culture clash between the politically correct 'up their own arses' Enterprise crew and Rimmer and his cronies would have surely been priceless.
I just HAD to do this
http://i41.tinypic.com/2mchtlh.jpg
"Alright dudes?"
TDK1044
04-10-09, 11:11 AM
Most of the time, there are too many cultural differences to attempt to remake shows that were successful on one side of the pond and try and make them work on the other side.
As about 90 percent of the US tv audience never saw the British version of The Office, the US version of the show is different and successful over here. I loved the British version though. Excellent.
As for 'red Dwarf', I only saw one episode and it was the most self indulgent, unfunny rubbish I ever saw. You can keep it. :down:
This leaves me all ... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MRf7DrWsBk)
The did butcher it ... no doubt but you'd get Terry Farrell (Jadzia Dax) all feline d up, if you're into that sort of thing. Plus there was Jane Leeves, a nice little bonus.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/3287/april98image35.jpg
Thinking back on it, I think part of what did it in was the US version of Lister was casted all wrong, there is a lot to be said about an actor making a roll. And someone tall, and if cleaned up attractive to the opposite sex, doesn't really make a Dave. Plus he reminds me of the oldest sibling from Party of Five.
Now will Holly (http://downthetubescomics.blogspot.com/2008/03/red-dwarfs-holly-on-tour.html) be coming near SDCC?
NeonSamurai
04-10-09, 11:40 AM
Ya I'm a big Red Dwarf fan going way back, can't wait till the new episodes arrive in Canada. I'm glad they are finishing it, but I can't help wishing it was a full season not 3 episodes.
Yikes on the American version :o They seem to have completely missed the point that the story was about a bunch of guys (with no live girls for most of the series) lost in space and sexually frustrated. A female 'Cat' would have killed that aspect.
Most of the time, there are too many cultural differences to attempt to remake shows that were successful on one side of the pond and try and make them work on the other side.
As about 90 percent of the US tv audience never saw the British version of The Office, the US version of the show is different and successful over here. I loved the British version though. Excellent.
As for 'red Dwarf', I only saw one episode and it was the most self indulgent, unfunny rubbish I ever saw. You can keep it. :down:
Ah. You probably saw something from the shameful 5th series.
GoldenRivet
04-10-09, 12:54 PM
It really is a great show.
Ill never forget the one where they are all walking with weapons drawn aboard a completely frozen space ship trying to figure out why the ship was just drifting abandoned...
anyway - the hole ship was frozen inside and there they go sneaking along, expecting some sort of ice monster or something...
all of the sudden Lister screams out! "Ahhhhhhhhhh" shattering the silence.
the group turns and looks at him in fright "what what what?!! whats the matter?!!?!
and he says "A big drop of ice water just fell off an ice sickle and went right down the crack of my ass!"
:har:
TDK1044
04-10-09, 12:59 PM
Ah. You probably saw something from the shameful 5th series.
In all fairness, I probably didn't give it a fair shake by judging it on one episode. :)
LiveGoat
04-10-09, 02:22 PM
It's in my top 5 Greatest TV series ever list. It's second only to Mystery Science Theatre IMO but that's just because I'm a Yank. Although the two shows are kindred spirits of a sort.
nikimcbee
04-10-09, 03:21 PM
It's in my top 5 Greatest TV series ever list. It's second only to Mystery Science Theatre IMO but that's just because I'm a Yank. Although the two shows are kindred spirits of a sort.
No mistake, greatest show evah!
http://cinefantastiqueonline.com/wp-content/mst3k.jpg
GoldenRivet
04-10-09, 04:24 PM
MST3K
awesome. :yeah:
LiveGoat
04-12-09, 09:55 PM
So the big question, Clive, is this:
Which Kochanski do you prefer? Don't worry, there are no wrong answers, however, much can be discerned. :DL
Me? I like Clare. She's so spunky. BTW how were the episodes?
Blacklight
04-13-09, 12:23 AM
In my experience, 99% of Americans have no clue what Red Dwarf even IS unfortunately.
I remember the massacred pilot too.
(I also agree that they massacred "The Office" as well)
I seriously don't know why Hollywood feels this all encompassing urge to F' up (oh... I'm sorry... they call it "Americanizing") anything foreing when they decide to start filming for US TV or movie markets.
Hopefully someone will tape those episodes and get them on Youtube for us.
The Terry Pratchett book "The Color of Magic" got the "Americanizing" treatment somehow when they made the TV movie from that. They pretty much RAPED the book which was hilarious and perfect. And this was filmed by a British company even ! :nope:
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