The End of the Internet

[Onkel Neal]

At least for the US. I doubt Europe will pull this crap :x

http://i.gizmodo.com/5033779/giz-explains-how-broadband-usage-caps-will-kill-internet-video (http://i.gizmodo.com/5033779/giz-explains-how-broadband-usage-caps-will-kill-internet-video)
a different network management trend started to emerge among the major ISPs: metered broadband, aka data caps. It's like dial-up service or wireless data: After reaching your alotted amount of data for the month, you pay extra, maybe through the nose, as our northern neighbors in Canada are familiar with.

[nikimcbee]

Okay, so if subsim exceeds its bandwidth quota, does that mean i can just call you (Neal) up on the phone to comment on stuff? You better not have caller ID.:har:

...and can i get those calls added to my post count, (gotta keep up with the bunas yah know):haha:

I can see it now......
.
.
.
ring ring...
This is Neal.
Yo Neal wazup? So how's the model going?

click. Neal? Neal?

5 minutes later...
ring, ring...
this is Neal.
yo Neal wazup? Did you watch the Rayduz game?

click.

:hmmm::haha:

[darius359au]

Welcome to the wonderful world of Australian Broadband - This how its done here , you pay for a certain amount a month at the speed you want then ,when you go over ,you get your speed throttled down or your ISP's lets you keep your download speed and you need to buy blocks of extra download amount - the last time I had to reinstall my OS I was near the end of the month and near my limit ,so I had to pay an extra $24.95au for an extra 5gig to make sure I didn't run out with all the update's and re-downloads:down:

[HunterICX]

At least for the US. I doubt Europe will pull this crap :x

http://i.gizmodo.com/5033779/giz-explains-how-broadband-usage-caps-will-kill-internet-video (http://i.gizmodo.com/5033779/giz-explains-how-broadband-usage-caps-will-kill-internet-video)


:DBecause Europe had some countries that did the same, most got rid of that policy but I think some of the countries still have this.

HunterICX

[stabiz]

There is no sign of this here in Norway, I actually think there would be a revolution if anybody suggested it.:)

[Respenus]

Slovenian broadband has been based on the flat-rate principle from the start. It doesn't matter which speed you chose or with which operator, you always get the same deal and only pay a set monthly fee. Our neighbours to the south, well, they are well known for their bankruptcy stories due to internet bills.

[antikristuseke]

Here the internets is allso at a flat rate, personaly pay 25 euros a month for 12mbit/1mbit connection, cable tv and phone line on which calls in the same service providers network are free.

[VipertheSniper]

It was like that before here in Austria, but they dropped that... now, if you have a package with a download or traffic limit and you exceed that, your connection will be throttled down, but you don't pay extra.

[Jimbuna]

Capping is still quite common here in the UK.

There are two options generally:

1) You pay for what you take in excess of your allowance.

2) Once you reach your allowance, your bandwidth is reduced for the remainder of the month.

Fortunately not all ISPs practice these measures.

[SteamWake]

From what Ive read that the 'cap' is gracious plenty for most users.

Something about downloading two or three full movies a day and still have room left.

But of course they will narrow that down till eventually everyone pays.

I would also assume that for folks that use tons of bandwidth special plans would be made available.

[NeonSamurai]

Don't even get me started on Canadian ISP's. I'm personally capped at 60gb a month, and get hit with 2$ per gig over that to a maximum of 25$. I can easily go over that in a month (particularly with web video sites, and multi gb demos).

On top of it the bastard company Rogers, didn't make enough money last year so as a result they are hiking prices again by like 13%. I hope they go bankrupt.

[SteamWake]

Don't even get me started on Canadian ISP's. I'm personally capped at 60gb a month, and get hit with 2$ per gig over that to a maximum of 25$. I can easily go over that in a month (particularly with web video sites, and multi gb demos).

On top of it the bastard company Rogers, didn't make enough money last year so as a result they are hiking prices again by like 13%. I hope they go bankrupt.

What would you do then?

[AVGWarhawk]

They are only looking at revenue. Forget the customers. This done on a large scale would net large dollars. I would probably reach my limit on my work computer in a day. :88)

[Task Force]

I hope my provider dosent do this.:yep:

[NeonSamurai]

What would you do then? Oh I'm probably going to dump them and go with one of 2 independent ISPs that don't fix bandwidth limits (or others that have much higher, some are 200 GB or more). Worse comes to worse I can go with Bell Canada which offers higher limits for less (this is before even the price hike which most customers are utterly enraged over). This does though leave me a quandary about TV services as there are only the 2 (Bell and Rogers), but I'm getting to the point where I don't care any more, I don't watch a whole lot of TV any more and most of it is available from the station online.

[baggygreen]

Harden up yankees, like darius said, that is the only option we got down here.

Our broadband is special, it runs on copper cables...:down:

[jumpy]

Capping is still quite common here in the UK.

There are two options generally:

1) You pay for what you take in excess of your allowance.

2) Once you reach your allowance, your bandwidth is reduced for the remainder of the month.

Fortunately not all ISPs practice these measures.

Yup, prety standard behaviour for the big players here.
here's a page detailing what service I use - home30 http://adsl24.co.uk/broadband/home/
This is fairly typical, but unlike some isp's there's no port blocking. Tbh I doubt I'd use 30gb peak bandwidth anyway, considering I get unlimited at weekends and on weekdays from midnight to 8am. Not like Pipex (now Tiscali ) and their 'fair usage policy'. :dead:

[Bewolf]

There were bandwith limit options here before, usually offered at a lower price then regular flatrates, but nowadays the latter are the common basis for internet access. I have a broadband connection at 16 mbit/s downstream 1mbit/s upstream for 30 € the month, including a regular telephone flat.

And as it looks, part of the german stimulus package include investments into the broadband infrastructure to make even higher transfer rates possible all over the country, rural areas included, bringing the limit to 50 mbit/s transfer rates. Has to be seen at what price, however.

[owner20071963]

Due to the World Recession,
Some Governments will Tax You On Future Txts,
Via your Cell Phone,
Its only a matter of time before they decide to,
Over tax the net too,
I guess they will try to get
Blood out of a Turnip as they say,
makes you wonder where all those Billions of Dollars went :hmmm:,
before the big Bust,
World Population has exceeded Governments expectations,
Corporate Banks decide on the World Economy,
They also decide War And Peace,
Maybe their next move is to Tag every Human Being?
who knows :hmmm:

[antikristuseke]

Though I am not completely sure what you are trying to say, I will get my tinfoil hat, just in case.

[Jimbuna]

Yup, prety standard behaviour for the big players here.
here's a page detailing what service I use - home30 http://adsl24.co.uk/broadband/home/
This is fairly typical, but unlike some isp's there's no port blocking. Tbh I doubt I'd use 30gb peak bandwidth anyway, considering I get unlimited at weekends and on weekdays from midnight to 8am. Not like Pipex (now Tiscali ) and their 'fair usage policy'. :dead:

I'm on Virgin Media (formerly Telewest) 20MB broadband...whilst there is no capping, the d/l speed fluctuates dependant on the number of users at any given time, but I seldom go below 15MB.

[jumpy]

I take it your BT exchange has upgraded to ADSL2 then? Still waiting for mine.

[Jimbuna]

I take it your BT exchange has upgraded to ADSL2 then? Still waiting for mine.

Virgin Media is fibre optic cable fed.....not sure about BT in my area.

[jumpy]

ah, the good stuff hehe, the cable network near us (previously Diamond Cable/NTL/now Virgin) is all fibre optic from quite some time ago. Not available as 'cable' in my street for some reason, hence bt line malarkey.

[Jimbuna]

ah, the good stuff hehe, the cable network near us (previously Diamond Cable/NTL/now Virgin) is all fibre optic from quite some time ago. Not available as 'cable' in my street for some reason, hence bt line malarkey.

That's one thing that narks some of my friends.....it would appear that the original cable tracks were plumbed in on an area selective basis.

I got mine 6/7 year ago yet I know people in lesser populated areas only 3 mile away that are still waiting. :hmmm: