View Full Version : Gang of villagers chase away Google car
Onkel Neal
04-03-09, 10:26 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/04/03/google.anger/index.html
:har:
Google's ambitious plan to offer a 3-D street level view of communities across three continents hit a snag when angry residents of a UK village blocked the search engine's camera car from photographing their homes.
Build a fence!
SteamWake
04-03-09, 10:33 AM
Yea saw this yesterday.. Cant blame em :cool:
OneToughHerring
04-03-09, 10:36 AM
Good on 'em.
I don't see what the problem is with it. All they can see is what anyone can see for themselves if they drive down the same street.
Jimbuna
04-03-09, 10:58 AM
LOL http://forums.photobucket.com/images/smilies/pbgoogler.gif
:DL
Faux outrage is rampant these days....
UnderseaLcpl
04-03-09, 11:37 AM
I agree with August. Firstly, the "recon" provided to potential burglars would be all but useless. The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. They are too dumb to do anything else.
A primary rule of tactical reconnaisance is to carefully monitor the area of operations as discreetly as possible over a sustained period, in order to establish patterns. What good would a single picture do that a criminal couldn't easily accomplish by themsleves in a more effective manner?
Secondly, the Government does this crap all the time, on a much larger scale, and it generates a startling lack of concern. If these peoples' concern is privacy, they are misdirecting their attention. Have any of you ever spied on a topless lady via sattelite? Neither have I:DL, but I have had access to sattelite surveillance with that capability, not to mention Millimeter-wave imaging (sees through clothing and some structural materials), Infrared (sees through damn near everything), and some other interesting information-gathering systems that I will not discuss.
In any case, which is more of a threat? Which is more perturbatory? A private company using camera data to provide a helpful and accessible navigation data, or a (admittedly part-time/half-mature) government employee like myself with too much time on his hands, with access to state-of-the-art communications and monitoring equipment? And God forbid that we ever actually decide we have something to look for.....
AVGWarhawk
04-03-09, 12:29 PM
My kids have seen this car going by our house. My house is in a 3D drive by. I can see why they might object. It can give one the layout and make it easy to case a place for robbery.
SteamWake
04-03-09, 12:34 PM
The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. .....
Yea... sure... riiiiight. :doh:
Schroeder
04-03-09, 01:22 PM
I agree with August. Firstly, the "recon" provided to potential burglars would be all but useless. The vast majority of criminals don't have the luxury of internet access, nor the brains to properly utilize any data they might glean from it, or single pictures taken in the middle of the day. That's why they are criminals. They are too dumb to do anything else.
I wish you were right......:-?
Aramike
04-03-09, 02:43 PM
I wish you were right......:-?He is. The vast majority of criminals are not sophisticated in the least. While there are indeed some very bright ones out there, most are not.
Who do you think is packing prison systems worldwide? The smart ones?
It is the burglars in suits I am more worried about looking at my home.Oh Mr.Linton you have a nice house,we are going to double your council tax to pay for our index linked pension.They will be able to do this from the comfort of their office!:damn::damn::damn:
AVGWarhawk
04-03-09, 02:49 PM
There are blue collar criminals who are your street thugs and strong arm people. Armed robbery, etc. Then there are white collar criminals that score big at homes such as these being put on video or crimes involving money laundering, Madoff/Ponsi schemes,etc. The white collar criminal could use these to case a very expensive home full of expensive things.
It is the burglars in suits I am more worried about looking at my home.Oh Mr.Linton you have a nice house,we are going to double your council tax to pay for our index linked pension.They will be able to do this from the comfort of their office!:damn::damn::damn:
They don't need to rely on Google maps for that. Don't know how it is in Britain but here in the states the local tax office not only has pictures of every house and property in their jurisdiction but also a complete description as well.
For example. Below is the Providence tax assessors database record of my last apartment. This info is available to anyone with an internet connection.
http://providence.ias-clt.com/parcel.detail.php?id=24657
Now how is what google does any more intrusive than that?
Onkel Neal
04-03-09, 04:30 PM
Faux outrage is rampant these days....
Spot on! My thoughts exactly, people are so freaked out by the changes in the world.
Aramike
04-03-09, 04:44 PM
There are blue collar criminals who are your street thugs and strong arm people. Armed robbery, etc. Then there are white collar criminals that score big at homes such as these being put on video or crimes involving money laundering, Madoff/Ponsi schemes,etc. The white collar criminal could use these to case a very expensive home full of expensive things.It's doubtful that the so-called "white collar criminal" will use Google in lieu of the more traditional casing.
It doesn't take a dated photo from a guy driving down a street to learn that a community is affluent and that there will be nice homes there. What else could a person possibly learn from said photos?
UnderseaLcpl
04-03-09, 05:14 PM
It's doubtful that the so-called "white collar criminal" will use Google in lieu of the more traditional casing.
It doesn't take a dated photo from a guy driving down a street to learn that a community is affluent and that there will be nice homes there. What else could a person possibly learn from said photos?
Precisely, and as August pointed out, you can easily obtain much more detailed information from a variety of sources, including floor plans. In any case, I doubt that a google pic of my house would reveal what time I might be home or that I have gun.
All the smart criminals are politicians or lawyers or have political lobbies working for them, or all three. Everyone knows that:DL
Digital_Trucker
04-03-09, 05:17 PM
Personally, I think they should have held the car up just long enough to spray paint "Google Sux" all over the front of their houses and then let the car go.:D
FIREWALL
04-03-09, 05:40 PM
There are map sellers on damn near every street corner in Hollywood that sell maps of " Homes of the Stars "
Movie, Music, Sport and any other star.
I've never heard of any complaints.
These people are fools, the data isn't live so it's useless to any one that want's to case your house out. Most burglaries are crimes of opportunity. A crack head walks down the street wonders where the money for his next score is going to come from. He spies an open window and there you have it, he's got your tv and new blu ray player. Google not required.
I think some people complain just because they can. It must be some sort of empowerment thang.
It reminds me of when they first started to consider restricting cigarette smoking in the workplace (yes I am that old). At first it was a voluntary thing. The corporation expected people to work it out on a local basis.
Well it was amazing to see how many people suddenly became deathly ill at the slightest wisp of tobacco smoke in their vicinity, in spite of having been exposed to large quantities of it for, in some cases, entire decades with no apparent discomfort at all.
Now I generally agree with the concept of a smoke free workplace but the amount of hysterics displayed by some people, on both sides of the smoking issue, was illuminating to say the least.
bookworm_020
04-03-09, 11:20 PM
Maybe their afraid that the world will see what a dump they live in and will scare away anyone who thinks of wanting to visit or live there?:O:
Kazuaki Shimazaki II
04-04-09, 10:35 AM
Well it was amazing to see how many people suddenly became deathly ill at the slightest wisp of tobacco smoke in their vicinity, in spite of having been exposed to large quantities of it for, in some cases, entire decades with no apparent discomfort at all. Are you sure they just weren't hiding their distaste? Or maybe it is the increased awareness of the harms of second-hand smoke increasing the distaste on both a conscious or unconscious level? As for the topic, I'm not sure how far privacy laws prevent people from photographing the exteriors of homes, but if it covers that then they have the right to exercise it. That the government might have a similar capability is another issue. Most people, for all their misgivings about the government and its intrusion on privacy, may still feel a bit of difference between the personal data being in some governmental database than if it is on the Net.
XabbaRus
04-04-09, 11:44 AM
They don't need to rely on Google maps for that. Don't know how it is in Britain but here in the states the local tax office not only has pictures of every house and property in their jurisdiction but also a complete description as well.
For example. Below is the Providence tax assessors database record of my last apartment. This info is available to anyone with an internet connection.
http://providence.ias-clt.com/parcel.detail.php?id=24657
Now how is what google does any more intrusive than that?
I wouldn't be surprised if the UK government has not only a photo of my house but a picture of every room including my kids toys and one of me with the missus...
Are you sure they just weren't hiding their distaste? Or maybe it is the increased awareness of the harms of second-hand smoke increasing the distaste on both a conscious or unconscious level?
Good points but how does a person take smoke filled rooms for years, decades even with no outward sign of distress at all, then suddenly switch to "omg that smoke has made me violently ill and I have to leave work right now!", just because the corporation publishes a memo telling smokers to be more considerate to people with a sensitivity to tobacco smoke?
I wouldn't be surprised if the UK government has not only a photo of my house but a picture of every room including my kids toys and one of me with the missus...
You know we love you Brits like brothers but there's a reason we went independent! :yep:
Jimbuna
04-04-09, 12:54 PM
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years.
No one knows for sure how old he was, as his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, life isn’t always fair, and maybe it was my fault.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don’t spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).
His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place.
Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job they failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.
He declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Paracetamol, sun lotion or a sticky plaster to a student but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
He began to lose the will to live as churches became businesses; creationism vied for equal footing with proper science, alternative treatments became available on the NHS (while cancer drugs were banned) and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
The poor bloke took a beating when you couldn’t defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar can sue you for assault.
He finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realise that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
Barely recovering from that he was bludgeoned to death by the news that the world's financial markets had been demolished by irresponsible bankers who made a fortune doing so and who the governments bailed out by demanding money from those wise enough to have adopted sensible fiscal policies.
This grand old man was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust, his wife, Discretion, his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by four stepbrothers; "I Know My Rights," "Someone Else's Problem," "I’m A Victim" and "Work? I'm better off on the Dole," and his stepsisters; "Gymslip Mother" and "I'll have a baby and they'll give me a house."
Not many attended his funeral because so few realised he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not join the majority and do nothing.
Did anyone else immagine clicking "google street view" and seeing a bunch of villagers weilding pitch forks charging at you?
Aramike
04-04-09, 01:07 PM
Good points but how does a person take smoke filled rooms for years, decades even with no outward sign of distress at all, then suddenly switch to "omg that smoke has made me violently ill and I have to leave work right now!", just because the corporation publishes a memo telling smokers to be more considerate to people with a sensitivity to tobacco smoke?So true ... I remember a few years ago a smoker came into the office after a cigarette smelling faintly of smoke and a woman began heaving as though the smell made her ill.
Wackos...
Onkel Neal
04-04-09, 01:11 PM
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years.
He shouldn't have stepped in front of the Google car when the villagers were chasing it!
bookworm_020
04-05-09, 05:59 AM
He shouldn't have stepped in front of the Google car when the villagers were chasing it!
I thought he stepped behind the car when it was reversing! :hmmm:
SteamWake
04-05-09, 10:58 AM
Did anyone else immagine clicking "google street view" and seeing a bunch of villagers weilding pitch forks charging at you?
Now that would be cool :rotfl:
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