lesrae
04-02-09, 10:39 AM
A friend of mine is writing a book, based during WWII, which involves the landing of an agent in the UK from a submarine and knowing my interest in all things submarine he's asked me for some info.
In order to be sure I'm accurate, and as I travel a lot with work so can't always access my own library, would anyone like to assist with some suggested answers for the following questions (I've already included some info I was going to suggest, please feel free to correct me, expand on that or suggest a better option)?
Many thanks in advance!
All of the below are relevant to the scenario of a German U-Boat operating off the southwest coast of Wales in October/November 1940.
1. Type of U-Boat. i.e make, model etc
I’d suggest a type VIIC u-boat, this was the workhorse of the Kriegsmarine (German navy) Ubootwaffe (submarine service) in WWII, and was operating at the time you want.
2. Length
66.5m overall, pressure hull is 50.5m. The extra 16m is from the superstructure around the pressure hull.
3. Displacement (is this the same as weight - there you go, first indication of my total ignorance!)
Displacement is a measure of the weight of water that any floating vessel displaces, the theory is that so long as the physical weight of your ship is less than it’s displacement, it will float.
Put simply, submarines effectively flood internal tanks with water to increase their weight, allowing them to dive, and then use trim tanks to balance themselves while underwater.
The VIIC had a surfaced displacement of around 719 tons, and a dived displacement of around 870 tons. Both displacements depend on fuel, food, fresh water, weapons, crew etc. that was loaded.
4. How many crew? (Assume full compliment) and split between Officers and general crew.
4 officers, 56 ratings.
5. Were the crew conscripts or would they have been regular German Navy prior to hostilities?
In 1940, they were probably mostly regular volunteers.
6. German titles equivalent to:
Captain – Kapitänleutnant (generally referred to as ‘Herr Kaleun’ by the crew)
Helmsman (I think this is the guy who drives it!) – There are several looking after bow planes, stern planes and ballast tanks. Generically known as the ‘Zentrale-Personal’
Second Officer - Wachoffizier
7. Periscope depth, and some idea of how the captain operates the periscope (and the commands that he would use to the crew)
8. How long would it take to surface from periscope depth, and some idea of how they do this?
There are several ways of surfacing:
Quickly and making noise/spray - high pressure air is used to quickly blow the water out of the ballast tanks, this makes the boat bouyant and lifts it towards the surface. This would usually be combined with 'driving' the boat to the surface with a combination of propulsion (speed) and an upward angle on the dive planes.
More stealthily - The boat can be driven to the surface using a slower speed and upward angle on the planes, some ballast would probably need to be blown though, to allow this.
Most stealthy but difficult - the boat can be stationary in the water and the water very slowly blown from the ballast tanks, allowing the boat to slowly rise to the surface.
The boat doesn't always have to surface fully, it can be held at any depth and it wasn't uncommon for them to run with the deck awash, so that just the tower stuck out of the water, to make them less visible and allow them to dive quicker. I don't think you could launch a folboat this way, as they generally come out of the main hatch aft of the tower.
9. The height of the sticky out bit at the top ( the tower?)
The top of the bridge is about 5m above the deck, the standing platform is about 3m off the deck
10. How do they get up to tower (e.g. how many steps, hatches etc) ?
There’s a ladder from the Control Room, through a hatch to the attack centre, there’s then another ladder up to the external hatch which takes you onto the bridge.
11. What would they use to signal to shore? Torch or lantern etc
12. Size and type of small boat that they would have on board. (rigid, inflatable etc) and how would they get this in the water (different hatch? if so where would this be in relation to the tower?)
A Folboat? These were usually brought out of the main hatch aft of the tower, or the torpedo loading hatch fwd.
13. How many men could it hold comfortably? and I presume that it would be oar powered as opposed to any small motor. How many oars etc. Double or single ?
14. If they needed to make 2 or 3 journeys to and from the shore, would they used a fixed line to guide them backwards and forwards?
15. How would the U-boat normally communicate with Germany? Radio etc? Make and model.
They used radio, typical make would be…?
16. Where would the main German U-boat command have been based? And would all communications to the fleet go through this one centre?
17. Rank of officer would could reasonably be expected to be in command at this comms centre and roughly how many men would there be sending and receiving signals etc.
There’s only one person on duty in the radio room at any time, a Petty Officer rating is in charge, the ‘Funkmaat’ or a Radio Operator rating, the ‘Funker’. The radio room is a compartment, about the size of a large wardrobe, immediately fwd of the control room.
In order to be sure I'm accurate, and as I travel a lot with work so can't always access my own library, would anyone like to assist with some suggested answers for the following questions (I've already included some info I was going to suggest, please feel free to correct me, expand on that or suggest a better option)?
Many thanks in advance!
All of the below are relevant to the scenario of a German U-Boat operating off the southwest coast of Wales in October/November 1940.
1. Type of U-Boat. i.e make, model etc
I’d suggest a type VIIC u-boat, this was the workhorse of the Kriegsmarine (German navy) Ubootwaffe (submarine service) in WWII, and was operating at the time you want.
2. Length
66.5m overall, pressure hull is 50.5m. The extra 16m is from the superstructure around the pressure hull.
3. Displacement (is this the same as weight - there you go, first indication of my total ignorance!)
Displacement is a measure of the weight of water that any floating vessel displaces, the theory is that so long as the physical weight of your ship is less than it’s displacement, it will float.
Put simply, submarines effectively flood internal tanks with water to increase their weight, allowing them to dive, and then use trim tanks to balance themselves while underwater.
The VIIC had a surfaced displacement of around 719 tons, and a dived displacement of around 870 tons. Both displacements depend on fuel, food, fresh water, weapons, crew etc. that was loaded.
4. How many crew? (Assume full compliment) and split between Officers and general crew.
4 officers, 56 ratings.
5. Were the crew conscripts or would they have been regular German Navy prior to hostilities?
In 1940, they were probably mostly regular volunteers.
6. German titles equivalent to:
Captain – Kapitänleutnant (generally referred to as ‘Herr Kaleun’ by the crew)
Helmsman (I think this is the guy who drives it!) – There are several looking after bow planes, stern planes and ballast tanks. Generically known as the ‘Zentrale-Personal’
Second Officer - Wachoffizier
7. Periscope depth, and some idea of how the captain operates the periscope (and the commands that he would use to the crew)
8. How long would it take to surface from periscope depth, and some idea of how they do this?
There are several ways of surfacing:
Quickly and making noise/spray - high pressure air is used to quickly blow the water out of the ballast tanks, this makes the boat bouyant and lifts it towards the surface. This would usually be combined with 'driving' the boat to the surface with a combination of propulsion (speed) and an upward angle on the dive planes.
More stealthily - The boat can be driven to the surface using a slower speed and upward angle on the planes, some ballast would probably need to be blown though, to allow this.
Most stealthy but difficult - the boat can be stationary in the water and the water very slowly blown from the ballast tanks, allowing the boat to slowly rise to the surface.
The boat doesn't always have to surface fully, it can be held at any depth and it wasn't uncommon for them to run with the deck awash, so that just the tower stuck out of the water, to make them less visible and allow them to dive quicker. I don't think you could launch a folboat this way, as they generally come out of the main hatch aft of the tower.
9. The height of the sticky out bit at the top ( the tower?)
The top of the bridge is about 5m above the deck, the standing platform is about 3m off the deck
10. How do they get up to tower (e.g. how many steps, hatches etc) ?
There’s a ladder from the Control Room, through a hatch to the attack centre, there’s then another ladder up to the external hatch which takes you onto the bridge.
11. What would they use to signal to shore? Torch or lantern etc
12. Size and type of small boat that they would have on board. (rigid, inflatable etc) and how would they get this in the water (different hatch? if so where would this be in relation to the tower?)
A Folboat? These were usually brought out of the main hatch aft of the tower, or the torpedo loading hatch fwd.
13. How many men could it hold comfortably? and I presume that it would be oar powered as opposed to any small motor. How many oars etc. Double or single ?
14. If they needed to make 2 or 3 journeys to and from the shore, would they used a fixed line to guide them backwards and forwards?
15. How would the U-boat normally communicate with Germany? Radio etc? Make and model.
They used radio, typical make would be…?
16. Where would the main German U-boat command have been based? And would all communications to the fleet go through this one centre?
17. Rank of officer would could reasonably be expected to be in command at this comms centre and roughly how many men would there be sending and receiving signals etc.
There’s only one person on duty in the radio room at any time, a Petty Officer rating is in charge, the ‘Funkmaat’ or a Radio Operator rating, the ‘Funker’. The radio room is a compartment, about the size of a large wardrobe, immediately fwd of the control room.