Misplaced idolatry

[Christopher Snow]

Sorry...but NO! Michelle Obama ISN'T Jackie Kennedy.

She won't EVER...in a million years...be a class act like JqK was either.

I've had my fill of this misplaced adulation crap, frankly. Enough!

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Jackie Kennedy stood by in attendance....with her husband's blood splattered all over her suit...as the man who would replace her husband (LBJ), for the good of the nation--her nation--was sworn into office. This fine woman GAVE that awful day to all the rest of us...of herself...and for the good of her country...in what must have been a time of unimaginable distress. I cannot even imagine what depth of courage this required.

And yet still...she stood up, for all the rest of us (I myself was only a child back then).

Magnificent stuff. JqK was, on this day, a true Patriot, and even if she was so dazed in that moment that she couldn't see heads from tails.

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Now...contrast that with what we saw...last September. 9-11 (2008).

On THAT day...a day that had become VITALLY important for the collective consciousness of our nation, Michelle Obama couldn't even be bothered...

...to show up at Ground Zero for the memorial service for the victims. John McCain was there. Cindy McCain was there. Even her husband was there. But the "great lady" herself? Hell no...she couldn't take the time. She had other things to do.

She couldn't even be bothered to "send an e-mail."

And why? She was just home...with her children. To hell with her country--she decided (on THIS day) to take a day off.

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And so: Michelle Obama? They'd SERIOUSLY have me believe she's the next coming of Jackie Kennedy? I really think I might die laughing...

...out loud. LOL!

Hardly. Not in this universe...

...or any other.

No. Michelle has no chops...no props (worth mentioning)...

...and absolutely no honor or integrity at all.

She's merely a "Bitch." At best.



CS

[Tribesman]

What a pile of tripe

[Christopher Snow]

BullSh**

Back that statement up, coward.


CS

[Bewolf]

Oh man, wish we had this kind of political problem. Obviously nothing more serious is at stake.

[Tribesman]

coward.

:har: What a muppet

[Christopher Snow]

"Coward" is far too generous a term...but I used it in your case. Just once (but, hey...I'm a good guy).

I won't make the same mistake again where you are concerned.


CS

[Christopher Snow]

"Coward" is far too generous a term...but I used it in your case. Just once (but, hey...I'm a good guy).

I won't make the same mistake again where you are concerned, Tribesman.


CS

[Christopher Snow]

As for you, Beowulf, it's a hell of a lot more serious than you appreciate. This "BITCH" is being put forth as "Queen" worthy.

If you don't know your history, you won't know why this is a problem.

(but you probably don't).



CS

[Tchocky]

Michelle Obama didn't even have the decency to attend JFK's funeral.

Never mind that she was nowhere to be seen when LBJ was sworn in.

[Christopher Snow]

Hilarious. You must work with Tribesman coordinating your collective "schtick."

Know, however, that your efforts are wasted on true patriots. Know that they are equally wasted on those who might be curious...and want to listen.

Know that your efforts are worthy of nothing more than the inside of a cave...

....somewhere in Pakistan....or Europe.

Or even somewhere in the "Ruins of Europe." You are a good example of why the EU is toast.

And know, too, that *whatever else happens* you are now "zeroed." :D


CS

[antikristuseke]

Don't you have anything better to do that poorly disguised trolling?
Trolling should be an art form, this is just pathetic.

[Christopher Snow]

Me?

Or someone else?

Trolling, btw, implies "bottom feeding off the fruits of others." Not true in this case: I STARTED this thread.

This "Bitch" isn't fit to work in the lowest whorehouse in Vegas.


CS

[antikristuseke]

You ofcourse. Your OP is nothing more than praise of populism where you put more importance on looking good than actualy doing something.
Allso you try to shift the burden of proof to Tribesman to provide evidence that your OP is nothing but tripe, but you came out iwht the assertion and you need to provide evidence for its truthfulnes.
Then your dig at Europe for no real reason than your aparent ignorance and superiority complex, this might only be how I precive this, but meh.

[Christopher Snow]

LOL! I actually started to reply to your "praise of popularism" but quickly realized I need not bother.

If YOUR rejoinder takes root (and flourishes), then I'll know for certain that real intelligence is truly dead (so I'll let it lie...contribute, populace, as u see fit--I want to see reality.)

I,for one, am willing to roll the dice on this one. If I lose, I'll KNOW that real (useful) intelligence is dead. And that there is no point it wishing otherwise.

Bring it on, either way!


CS

[antikristuseke]

what are you trying to say? I cant make any sense of your post.

As for my own populism comment, how was it cruitial to be zeen at ground zero on 9/11, that did'nt acomplish anything, all it was, was a play at populism.

[Christopher Snow]

If "all it accomplished" was to play at populism, then maybe u are right after all.
And if you ARE right, then I would just as soon be dead--I have no use for a world that views important events as mere "tripe."

Give me that gun and let me put it into my mouth...NOW!


CS

[antikristuseke]

9/11 is not tripe, your op is tripe. politicians appearing at ground zero after 9/11 were after more publicity.

[Christopher Snow]

wrong....they appeared (or failed to appear) as representatives of the populace. Of people like me.

I just laid to rest a member of "the poplace." A WWII vet. That FINE, FINE man who earned every bit of respect HIS COUNTRY could offer him.

I was privledged to witness the 21 gun salute offered in his honor...by a very grateful nation. Of which I am a member.

Hard to imagine ANY scenario where your country offers similar honors to you.

:D LOL...and Please DO know that I LAUGH OUT LOUD ...right in your face.


CS

[Christopher Snow]

...........And as for "the first Bitch": If you want her, you can have her. Free of charge.

It would COST us money to do the paperwork.

Take her...please <Henny Youngman> :D


CS

[antikristuseke]

Thanks, but you keep your politicians, we have plenty of our own here. Besides, I am not in the least bit interested in her, my stance towards her is neutral, it is just BS, like you post, that irritates me.

There was no reason to get personal here, how my country honours me or does not is completely irrelevant as was the passing of your countryman.

Pvt. Mats Tammisto

[Christopher Snow]

So, if you aren't in the least interested, why did you post in this thread?

You are wasting our time!

As for the passing of MY countryman, rest assured I will not forget your disrespect.

I will make it a point to find you.


CS

[antikristuseke]

Want my home adress, would save you the trouble.

[Platapus]

Wow, I guess this guy does not like Ms Obama.

Oh well. <shrug>

[Tribesman]

Isn't it funny when a muppet uses the word coward when he is the doing a ranting gibberish attack on a woman from the safety of his keyboard.

I have no use for a world that views important events as mere "tripe."

Bollox . your post is tripe , the whole rant about the non-attendance at the commemoration and idolatry is tripe .
Don't try and elevate your nonsense by linking it to important events .

I will make it a point to find you.

What a fruitcake

[Tchocky]

For Tak :)

http://www.english-country-garden.com/a/i/animals/squirrel-5.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

This has certainly taken a turn:hmmm: Lighten up gents. Life is already to short to be using your time up on this.

[Sailor Steve]

I wouldn't go so far as to label the original post 'tripe', but I do have to ask what the point is. I'm not fond of the overt worship for Obama that is taking place at present, nor for his wife; but neither is outright hatred warranted either. A rant is fine, but rampant name-calling reduces it to the level of a schoolyard fight. Have you anything truly worthwhile to say, or is this just the page for screaming insults?

[AVGWarhawk]

Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.....a stickied insult thread:hmmm: You might be on to something here Steve.

[Enigma]

He's gonna find you.

:har:

[antikristuseke]

I am shaking in my boots.

[Digital_Trucker]

I am shaking in my boots.

I call bull****, we all know you wear high-heels:D Seriously, it's a joke.

[Christopher Snow]

Was "I'll find you" a stupid threat on my part? Yes, Certainly. I won't apologize for it, however, except to acknowledge that it was misplaced.

I simply forgot which venue I was posting in. I normally spend most of my time racing cars online, and when one of us says "I'll find you" over there, it quite literally means "I will make it a point to make my displeasure known to you in the next race." Such was my thinking last night, although obviously operating then in the wrong arena.

Clearly that sort of thing is not an option here, no, and so the "threat" is clearly just as meaningless here.

Laugh it up and be done with it.

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None of which changes...in the least...my opinion of Michelle Obama. I will say only, by way of followup, that America deserves whatever happens to it now. Not individuals (my sympathies STILL lie with those who voted for the opposition), but the electorate as a whole? Certainly.

And the rest of the world too.

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Neal (or other admins): Please close my forum account at the next opportunity.

Thank you.


CS

[Enigma]

And what, exactly, does America deserve?

[Etienne]

DARN! So close!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x197/Deckgull/bingo.jpg

[joea]

:har:This made my afternoon!!! :har::har:

[Dowly]

DARN! So close!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x197/Deckgull/bingo.jpg

:haha::har::haha:

[Bewolf]

As for you, Beowulf, it's a hell of a lot more serious than you appreciate. This "BITCH" is being put forth as "Queen" worthy.

If you don't know your history, you won't know why this is a problem.

(but you probably don't).



CS


right :rotfl:

[Enigma]

DARN! So close!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x197/Deckgull/bingo.jpg


:haha::har::haha::har::har::yeah:

[antikristuseke]

I call bull****, we all know you wear high-heels:D Seriously, it's a joke.

Only when i put on my full nazi dress uniform!

Quick, someone finish the bingo!:88)

[Dowly]

Finally got around reading the whole thread and all I have to say is: Christopher, you are an idiot. You also seem to suffer from somekind of superiority complex as AKE already pointed out. As for your 'MO wasnt at ground zero yadda yaaa" part, do you also think that every countryman that didnt be there then, are also unpatriotic "bitches"?

And lastly, I think your personal attack at AKE was uncalled for, which thus goes to show your incompetency to talk about something and considering there might be more point of views on the subject than that of your's.

I do hope Neal does what you asked, i.e. deletes your account and a small part deeeeeeeeep inside me wishes you get a hold of that gun you were asking for earlier. Good riddance.

[AVGWarhawk]

And what, exactly, does America deserve?


A Big Mac, vanilla milkshake and large fries, Go LARGE:D

[SteamWake]

OMG Nazi's !

BINGO !

Wow what an absurd thread. What started as a topic worth of discussion turned into an all out flame war.

Good job boys. :salute:

[Etienne]

Quick, someone finish the bingo!:88)

The Bingo cannot be completed after a Player has posted his or her Card.

These are the sacred rules of the internet bingo, and thus it shall be done.

[Frame57]

Snow, stick around. I agree with your overall observations of MO, but to get overly upset about it is not worth it. The very fact that MO stated after her Hubby was delegated as the democratic nominee, "This is the first time I have been proud of my Country..." show the shallowness of th woman and questions her patriotism to the bone. Learn to base your argument with some tactfullness and keep the threats at bay. You will have plenty of liberal mindedness void of gray matter to contend with in life. How you play the game is the key to victory.:salute:

[Tribesman]

The very fact that MO stated
Typical .
I don't know if you realise it Frame but when you put those "" things around words it would usually indicate that those were the actual words someone used .
So while you are educating yourself on punctuation perhaps you can educate yourself on the meaning of the word "fact" too .

You will have plenty of liberal mindedness void of gray matter to contend with in life.
Oh them damn liberals again . That would be them damn liberals like Laura Bush who said that the media misrepresented the words which you didn't quote . I suppose when she referred to the media she was talking about that damn liberal media we hear so much about too .

[HunterICX]

A Big Mac, vanilla milkshake and large fries, Go LARGE:D

F**k Yeah!:yeah:

HunterICX

[FIREWALL]

If you'de of left the word BITCH out of your post you might have had more of a following.

[Frame57]

Well Tribesman nice try, but I know what MO said, and besides unless your name has the initials JC and you have worn two stars over an anchor do not reply to my posts here, especially when I am addressing someone else. Got it Matey?

[Tribesman]

and besides unless your name has the initials JC and you have worn two stars over an anchor do not reply to my posts here
Dreadfully sorry old boy , I must have missed that golden rule in the forum rules .
but I know what MO said
Is that why you got it wrong ?
But its OK Frame , I understand your problem . You have that strange unpatriotic version of patriotism where it causes blindness don't you .:up:



If you'de of left the word BITCH out of your post you might have had more of a following.
Leaving the word out might have been an improvement , but even then the opening post seriously lacked substance .

[Frame57]

Well then, provide what IYO you think MO said if I am wrong? If pride for her Country is based only on how well her husband does politically I think it represents a shallowness on her part. The comparison between her and Jacky are two different leagues. I do not like lawyers for starters and I do not like them in any political office. Whether their names are Clinton or Obama.

[August]

I think everyone agrees on the general sleaziness of lawyers. :yep:

[antikristuseke]

Even my lawyer friend agrees with that.:yeah:

[Tribesman]

Well then, provide what IYO you think MO said if I am wrong?
So do you mean these words

"for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."
or these

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."
Both of which show she has patriotism not the blind "my country right or wrong" patriotism which is really very unpatriotic .
So Frame would you be truly proud of a country where the colour of your skin can be a major factor in determining your suitability for a position?
Its funny really with the Kennedy comparrison since an issue over his selection as a candidate the position was would Americans really vote for a Catholic to be president .

[Frame57]

So then was she not proud of DR. King and his work for civil rights? Was she not proud of America's role in WW2. I garnered pride for my Country while learning history as a kid. I have nothing against her statement other than the "First time..." bit. Which is what I was driving at and presents no contradiction with my original statement at all. Our Government has made many bad choices of which I am not proud of. But that is the government, NOT MY COUNTRY....

[Tribesman]

So then was she not proud of DR. King and his work for civil rights?
Both she and her husband have stated that the civil rights movement failed to deliver .

But that is the government, NOT MY COUNTRY....
And even Laura Bush at the time said it was obvious that MO was talking about the government and the selection process and that certain elements were trying to misrepresent what was said , which is funny since if you take a source from that time that was out to attack the "liberal wave" that is taking over the good ol' USA like news buster then you find that their comments about what MO said pretty much exactly match yours , though you should add the winning the Cold War and giving money to charities to your WW2 bit for good measure .

[Frame57]

You actually make my case for me Tribesman. How shallow of them to both say that of Dr. King. If not for Dr. King I think we may still be in the 50's regarding the issue. I am sure that they both scoff at the idea we even have made a holiday in his memory. I do not expect Leprechaun's who live under peat moss to get the idea of Patriotism, so you are here-by excused. :salute:

[Tribesman]

You actually make my case for me Tribesman. How shallow of them to both say that of Dr. King.
So you really do have severe problems with reading then ?

I do not expect Leprechaun's who live under peat moss to get the idea of Patriotism
Wow thats good , did you make it up yourself or did you get a grown up to help you ?

[Frame57]

You so funny Tribesman...I just illustrated what you said they said...It must be very frustrating for you not being able to identify with such things. So I will be nice. The Cold war you say? Yes, I am proud of that because that was my baby in some ways. Ronnie Regan was the man with the plan and he laid it down in high fashion. Something to be said about outspending you adversaries. Fret not my Guiness guzzling friend, I do like the Faerie folks of Eire, but you are out of your league in any and all engagements with the likes of me. Perhaps one day if we ever meet at a pub of sorts I could teach you a thing or two about how life really works in this badass world we live in. See, I have been there and done it, not just living my life behind a keyboard and fantasizing about it. So comment away and at least maybe some wisdom may rub off in rebuttal...:woot:

[Tribesman]

I just illustrated what you said they said
:har: No you just illustrated that you either can't read or can't comprehend . You also demonstrated that you havn't a clue what they said about the failures of the civil rights movement
Ronnie Regan was the man with the plan and he laid it down in high fashion.
That was the plan to spend like crazy and saddle the USA with unpayable debts , then go for a credit based boom to try and make up some of the money which left both the country and the population with unpayable debts . Some plan eh:rotfl:
you are out of your league in any and all engagements with the likes of me.
Very true , your levels of comprehension put you down in the little league , but don't worry I will be gentle with you .

[Frame57]

Dang you are like a dog that likes to keep humping a leg even after he has been kicked. OK, seeing that you are obsessed with my superior intellect, let's play. But first put down the pot pipe or whatever you are smoking. For starters it was your good buddy not mine Jimmy Carter who entrenched us into a far worse economy than what is going on even now. The Regan years were the smartest. Was money spent? Sure but it led to almost 2 decades of a terrific economy. Trickle down economics is smart because it gives investors who have Capital to create wealth by creating jobs. It does not punish a motivated society but rather rewards it. The trickle poverty method that most insane liberals embrace is just the opposite. (Are you done with your doobie? Because I know this is hard to get if your brain is foggy) Their brand of economics punishes performance and will not lead to a strong workforce. It will lead to a form of socialism that represents most of europe. But you see, my two digit midget friend, you cannot see that because all you have know is trickle up poverty and it is the norm for you. So you being on the outside of the pale are trying to make political/economic judgements on something you know nothing about.

Getting back to the issue of Dr. King. I never said that he produced a finished product, but all Black people should be proud of what he did and what he stood for. I think most are with the exception of your Idols BO and MO. OK, that should do for today, now you can go back to guzzling Guiness and hittin the water bong. But save a little Guiness for me when I come to visit as I am not too fond of Bass Ale...:yep:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I think everyone agrees on the general sleaziness of lawyers. :yep:

And that my friend is one of the few things we agree on ;)

[Tribesman]

And once again you show your complete lack of comprehension .
But its OK , you clearly demonstrate your ignornce and bigotry .
all Black people should be proud of what he did and what he stood for.
So excuse me massa Frame but what did MLK stand for before he was murdered ? Did the civil rights movement fail to deliver on that ? was the last piece of legislation MLK tried kicked to nowhere ?....
So when the Obamas made their comments were they slagging off MLL or were they making comments about the failures of the civil rights movement?

Or I ask again, have you even the faintest idea what you are talking about ?

Now I might say that your rants about your service are the kind of thing one normally associates with the catering or logistics crowd , but hey service is service and even a complete tosspot like my parish priest put in 12 tours


I think most are with the exception of your Idols BO and MO. OK,
You just don't get it do you , I suppose thats the junior infant mentality you have ,BO&MO ain't my idols . I despise them like I do all politicians or lawyers.....but I despise them on solid grounds not made up bull**** like you do.
Understand this (if you can ) I would support a dickhead like George Bush Junior if the accusations against him were complete bull****

So you being on the outside of the pale are trying to make political/economic judgements on something you know nothing about.


Well bugger me sideways paint me pink and call me Sandra , its the dickheads in the pale that have been feeding this collapse , its the clever buggers out west who wait 10 years laughing at the new "millionaires" before we clean up . We make he same killing under "free market" Fianna Fail as we did under that stupid cow Thatcher . Perhaps if you had thought a little and planned ahead you could be buying up half of Milwaukee .
Jesus what an arsewipe "you know nothing " " you know nothing" "you know nothing"

[Frame57]

Well my fanatical friend what I realize is that you are crying out for help. It is OK. Were buds here. Just do not let anyone put you any psychotropics. Education is your best friend. You may not know this but many streets in many cities have been named after MLK as well as schools and parks. This is in honor of the man. He was an honorable historical figure in the history of America, one that all Americans should be proud of. If that sounds like bigotry to you then all I can say is you are someday heading for a room with a nice padded cell. One of the finest Engineers I knew is Anthony Watkins. He was a nuclear trained engineer on the Archerfish and he went on to make Vice Admiral. That would never have happened in the 40's or even the 50's. So I would say that the civil rights movement has been effective. The very fact that America has its first Black President is also proof of this. What in your atrophied gray matter would indicate otherwise?

[Onkel Neal]

I'll close the hatch on this thread.