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Rilder
03-25-09, 12:26 AM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/89587-EA-Chief-Recession-Is-A-Blessing-For-The-Game-Industry



"First of all, a lot of the riffraff is going to go out of business... It's hard to compete with junk especially when they're giving it away for free." (http://www.ea.com/)

This article is driving a donation drive for b12 games.

DIE EA DIE.

Dowly
03-25-09, 12:35 AM
Hah, what an arse. :har:

A Very Super Market
03-25-09, 01:12 AM
I lol'd

EA has been churning out a lot of bollocks, to say the least. Is he predicting his own bankruptcy?

Raptor1
03-25-09, 01:56 AM
I think that EA going bust is probably the best thing that could happen to the gaming industry at this point, actually...

Dowly
03-25-09, 02:01 AM
I think that EA going bust is probably the best thing that could happen to the gaming industry at this point, actually...

Aye, that's true. :yep:

FIREWALL
03-25-09, 02:12 AM
I want EA to die. I don't like any of their games.

JALU3
03-25-09, 03:27 AM
Although EA has many very poorly produced games, I long for their return to the MLB Baseball franchise.
2kSports is producing ****. And because they have the exlusive license I am left with purchasing ****. Last made a purchase of EA's MLB 2004, and that was a gem, in many ways superior to the MLB 2k9 that I just bought. But heck it was 5 years between games . . . so I just sucked it up, enjoyed the wii controls, and keeped on keeping on.
Even in fantasy land do the Padres suck.

Kapitan_Phillips
03-25-09, 04:57 AM
I still havent forgiven EA for not letting me have NFL Head Coach 09, but still releasing Madden over here.

But, as long as EA still has its major cash-cows (The Sims, movie licenses, American sport licenses) then its going to be around and producing second rate rubbish for a considerable amount of time.

I think this guy is worried that independent developers might make a game that is actually better than the horseshat EA churns out, and ends up selling it at a price hugely reduced from EA's (frankly extortionate) $50 pricetag.

For me, I hope the NFL will come to its senses and award the licensing rights to someone who knows how to make a good game, and will put the time and effort into making it.

NeonSamurai
03-25-09, 09:32 AM
Oh wow that article is funny coming from EA, creativity and genuine innovation. When has EA done either really? EA is infamous for buying up other game companies that have creativity and genuine innovation then making them put out the same old slop before firing everyone and rolling the company into itself. I can also see why EA is worried about rifraff giving away junk games.. Junk is EA's major market share.

Max2147
03-25-09, 09:53 AM
The quality of racing sims improved in a huge way after EA/Sierra/Ubisoft got out of the business. Indie developers took it over and started producing superb games.

In a lot of cases the Indie folks were the same developers who had been making games for the big studios, but now that they didn't have somebody pulling their strings they made much better games.

FIREWALL
03-25-09, 11:29 AM
While it's just an opinion. I'd like to see the Indies take the big game companys down a notch or two.

I know I'm gonna get hell from the big U fanboys but after the fiasco with SH4 and getting personally screwed by Ubisoft. I now buy their games from the big E bargain bin and donate to Neal with a clear conscience.

Arclight
03-25-09, 12:33 PM
EA is evil, just the most basic example that comes to mind:

Anyone ever play Crysis? Ever noticed how you can't skip that first company logo loading screen from EA, but you can skip the second from Crytek no problem?

So what did EA do for it? Publish it. What did Crytek do? Just make the whole darn game.

It's like they're saying they played the biggest part in the development. Frankly I find that kind of behaviour outrageous. :nope:

Independent studios make games for the love of them, earn some cash on the side to finance future projects, make them even better. Big companies are there to earn money. Period. :stare:

HunterICX
03-25-09, 12:39 PM
EA who?

HunterICX

Raptor1
03-25-09, 12:49 PM
EA who?

HunterICX

Evil Arts, Inc.

Arclight
03-25-09, 01:34 PM
:haha: :salute:

Task Force
03-25-09, 01:39 PM
I never liked Evil Arts. THEY ARE MURDERS!!! lol They kill games. (only EA game I own is crysis.)

Wolfehunter
03-25-09, 07:27 PM
Die ea die painfully... :haha:

Kpt. Lehmann
03-26-09, 12:28 AM
Screw EA!!! :stare:

JALU3
03-26-09, 03:40 AM
Exactly, EA for the most part is a distribution company. When it comes to content they suck balls. Maxis was just fine wtihout EA, maybe didn't have the marketting apartus, but they did OK for themselves. With the internet and worldwide shipping companies, why is there a need for distribution companies like EA. But then again, I am just a consumer, and not a business major or anything like that. The studios would do just fine sending their own stuff ot market without EA.
Here's a question though, who the heck decided exclusive licensing for video game products was a good idea? If anything it reduced the amount of innovation that came from year to year in those markets.

goldorak
03-26-09, 05:10 AM
You know what ? Die EA die a painfull death. Good games will still be made but the quicker this *bip* company goes off the radar the better for all of us.

Wolfehunter
03-26-09, 01:27 PM
My bro said it best,

If the CEO of EA would have any sense in his head, he'd some day quote Spaceballs :" I knew it! I'm surrounded by A$$holes!" XD
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff110/WolfeXhunter/51225_thumb_1194068218503.gif
Keep firing, A$$holes!

:har:Rich:rotfl:

kiwi_2005
03-26-09, 07:32 PM
Well for me i dont want EA to die.

If im right, no EA means no more Battlefield. The Battlefield online series is one of the best shooters to ever come out for me. Then theirs Medal of Honor, & Command and Conquer series. As for their sports games never been interested but I dont want BF to die.

Rilder
03-26-09, 11:01 PM
You want a large profit-only corporation to continue going around gobeling up small indie games and turning awesome game ideas into ****ty linear storyline based crap?

Indie games really need to learn they can sell games themselves, they don't need some large company to do it for them, though I suspect that EA doesn't let "saying no" stop them.

rubenandthejets
03-27-09, 05:29 AM
EA's "Medal of Honor-Pacific Assault" has some good features, and as an online game it's great. True squad based combat in a WWII shooter is a great concept and was reasonably well executed, but yeah, the linear storyline was poo poo, the difficulty settings were pretty crap (a perfect headshot at 100 yards wasn't good enough to drop someone at the hardest setting ) and all that "banter" was ill timed and just plain wrong ("Conlin smoked another one!" Um, actually, I was getting treated by the medic and reloading....now get your friggn' butt outta the way, you're blocking the way!). Long load times, some historical idiocy (strafing an aircraft carrier so it sinks off an non existant island wih 10 minutes flying experience) and an AI that was pretty kooky at times.

However, yet again, the modders took a fair to middling game and turned the online play into a GREAT game.

GlobalExplorer
03-27-09, 12:12 PM
I wonder if by riff-raff he means the likes of Ageod, Paradox, Stardock, Matrix? Because this is where, presumably, all my gaming money will go in the future.

But EA will not die. It will eventually lose all informed gamers, but today they make up no more than 10% of the market. In fact I am more worried that he might really get rid of some competition. By chance, I came upon this related news today: http://www.lighthouse-interactive.com/Lighthouse-Interactive-declared-bankrupt

Wells it's actually old news, just the official statement that Lighthouse is definitely no more.

Arclight
03-27-09, 04:45 PM
Well for me i dont want EA to die.

If im right, no EA means no more Battlefield. The Battlefield online series is one of the best shooters to ever come out for me. Then theirs Medal of Honor, & Command and Conquer series. As for their sports games never been interested but I dont want BF to die.Battlefield was made by Digital Illusions, C&C came frome Westwood Studios and Medal of Honor came from DreamWorks Interactive. EA had nothing to do with the conception of these series. Just like for so much else, they took over or merely distributed it, and not nescesarily for the better. This is exactly why so much people dislike EA.

No more EA would probably just mean that some other big company would take their place, not nescesarily the end of a series. ;)

Raptor1
03-28-09, 11:43 AM
Actually, I think EA breaking up will just spawn a host of smaller companies which would probably buy the rights to these, and probably make them better than EA would as well

goggles
04-01-09, 12:47 PM
EA destroyer of franchises, devourer of good developers, doom for the videogame industry....

EA is like the borg....

DEATH TO EA!!!!

who wants to join my angry mob to storm EA headquarters? i brought pitchforks and torches:D

FIREWALL
04-01-09, 12:50 PM
While it's just an opinion. I'd like to see the Indies take the big game companys down a notch or two.

I know I'm gonna get hell from the big U fanboys but after the fiasco with SH4 and getting personally screwed by Ubisoft. I now buy their games from the big E bargain bin and donate to Neal with a clear conscience.


bump

Raptor1
04-01-09, 12:52 PM
EA destroyer of franchises, devourer of good developers, doom for the videogame industry....

EA is like the borg....

DEATH TO EA!!!!

who wants to join my angry mob to storm EA headquarters? i brought pitchforks and torches:D

I shall join ye, comrade, give me a pitchfork!

goggles
04-01-09, 01:00 PM
*hands raptor1 a pitchfork*:arrgh!:

Arclight
04-01-09, 01:26 PM
bump
I think most people tend to agree with you. I think I said it before, but IMO the difference between the smaller independant studios and the big time companies is that the big-timers just make games because they want to make a lot of money. Not to say the people working for them think this way, but they are bound by the limitations (such as impossible deadlines forcing an unfinished release) the higher-ups set for them.

Yes, I'd like to see indie developers take the big companies down a notch... OR it would be nice if the big companies switched their priority to quality and give their teams a little more independance.

fair_weather
04-01-09, 02:55 PM
I don't have a problem with EA.

I own a ton of games published by them and one actually made by them.

That one...is without a doubt, one of the best games I've ever played.

That game is Dead Space. I got hooked on it from the adverts and I bought it the day it came out and it's damned awesome :D

woody4077
04-01-09, 09:29 PM
my feeling about EA is this

make games people want and you won't have anything to worry about


im just sick of EA publishing the same crap every year
I.E. all their sports titles IMO they are basically glorified roster updates and nothing else

michlian
04-04-09, 01:38 PM
****ty DRM is what is killing EA Games. I hope they go down soon.

Wolfehunter
04-04-09, 09:46 PM
I don't have a problem with EA.

I own a ton of games published by them and one actually made by them.

That one...is without a doubt, one of the best games I've ever played.

That game is Dead Space. I got hooked on it from the adverts and I bought it the day it came out and it's damned awesome :DI agree that deadspace is one of the best game ever made but for a console game. DS is not a PC type game even though they reworked a version for PC. Do EA really focus on true PC games anymore? I think they're switching over. Cutting out all the good PC classic game, or reinvent them to console style type games.

So if they die or totally switch over will make me very happy camper. :up:

Castout
04-29-09, 04:52 AM
It's hard to compete with junk? :o

Well that's some EA advertisement......:haha: