how many play both SH3 and SH4?

[kbak303]

was just curious how many divide their time between both simulations?

thanks,
KB

[Torplexed]

Lately, I've been playing both sides of the Axis & Allies fence by having a German and US career going at the same time. When one gets a bit slow in terms of things happening, I turn to the other. :cool:

You do feel start to feel schizophrenic at times. :doh: But it passes.

[Sailor Steve]

Don't currently play SH4, but only because my computer doesn't run it so well. I miss SH1 and the Pacific side of things, and I'm looking forward to the day I can finally do it. As for the German side, I play SH3 incessantly and can't wait until my wishes are fulfilled for SH4 to have everything SH3 has, mod-wise.

[Rip]

I play both. Strangely I have yet to play commanding a u-boat in SH4.

[Platapus]

I go both ways.


uh, I mean I play both SH3 and SH4 (phew) :oops:

[Wicked Popsicle]

I love playing both SH4 and SH3

[quietguy52]

I didn't play SH3 very long... I failed to complete a mission in campaign and the software forced me to repeat it till it was - I never finished the mission and grew weary of doing the same thing everytime I booted up. :dead:

Ended up shelving it.

I'm sure glad SH4 doesn't force this...

[Uber Gruber]

Will only play SH3 till I feel the Atlantic Campaign is fully complete for SH4. The new environment by kriller and w_clear looks scrumptious and with GWX's Tomi producing such a great U-Boat interior then I feel the day may come when i'll move to SH4.....but for now, i'm doing what i like doing best and thats U-Boating it around the Atlantic.

[Sharkley]

Will only play SH3 till I feel the Atlantic Campaign is fully complete for SH4. The new environment by kriller and w_clear looks scrumptious and with GWX's Tomi producing such a great U-Boat interior then I feel the day may come when i'll move to SH4.....but for now, i'm doing what i like doing best and thats U-Boating it around the Atlantic.

you took the words right out of my mouth..

[skookum]

I'm playing SH4 now because SH3 has issues with high resolution widescreen displays. I guess the race is on. If they ever find a good solution to the widescreen issue then I'll go back to SH3. If GWX 4 ever arrives, I'll likely stick with SH4.

You know what I miss about SH3? Handwritten messages from my radio operator and the constant flow of messages from BDU and other ships. Even if they were scripted they added a lot to immersion.

[andy_311]

Just play sh4 now,.But sh3 had it challenges "France being overrun and you had to go out and make Norway the only thing that were in the way were the allied DD's in Lorient as i remember oh and all the bombers that give you a very bad day,those were the days.

[Onkel Neal]

I've been rexploring SH2 lately...not bad. Cannot hold a candle to 3 or 4 but fun in a way.

[owner20071963]

I've been rexploring SH2 lately...not bad. Cannot hold a candle to 3 or 4 but fun in a way.

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[sunvalleyslim]

Play both SH3 and SH4......Was a torpodoeman on the old Diesel Fleet Boat USS Segundo SS-398 until she was decommisioned.......I like SH4 because its Fleet Boats, but for the best play it's SH3 with GWX Gold :rock::rock::rock:

[Larry U-136]

Bounce back and forth on two machines...

[FIREWALL]

Play SH3 GWX Gold exclusively.

Have a preorder copy of SH4 and a copy of SH4 UBM Gold.

Not impressed with either. Will wait for GWX4.

All the mods for SH4 are EXCELLENT. :up: :salute:

Just not my cup of tea.

[kaptkirkU4467]

I've been a SH3 fan...but play SH4 once a month.Gave my SH2 to the friends down the road to get them hooked.:salute:..they sent DC back.:har:

games on the home system..
SH3/4
CoD 5,World at War
CoD 4
MoH:AA
CC Generals/Zero Hour

[Sharkley]

you took the words right out of my mouth..

Do to some mod glitches in SH3 (100% my fault) I will be trying SH4 for the first time in the year I have owned it. Until I reinstall SH3, then back to the atlantic I go..Unless GWX 4.0 comes out..oh the choices !?!:hmmm:

[msalama]

Only playing SH4 w/ RFB at the moment. Did previously play the hell out of SH3 with all the supermods too, but the bugger has frankly speaking grown a bit old on me lately...

[Armistead]

Have never played 3. Have played the uboat missions in 4, but didn't play long enough to learn how to operate the sub, about an hour I left. Is playing 3 the same layout of the uboat missions in 4?

Also, how realistic it towards the end of the war...anything like the book "Iron Coffins." Do they give you death missions. If it's realistic you should have a hard time near the end of the war.

[Sailor Steve]

Have never played 3. Have played the uboat missions in 4, but didn't play long enough to learn how to operate the sub, about an hour I left. Is playing 3 the same layout of the uboat missions in 4?

Also, how realistic it towards the end of the war...anything like the book "Iron Coffins." Do they give you death missions. If it's realistic you should have a hard time near the end of the war.
Currently if your desire is to run a u-boat then a fully modded SH3 is still the way to go. Full campaigns running from Keil and Wilhelmshaven, and the French bases later, harbors full of ships...more cool things than you could imagine.

And yes, the major modded campaigns make it easy early on, and easy to die young later in the war. The graphics are nothing alike, but SH3's gfx have their own charm and a lot of players prefer them. It's a whole different look and feel, and cheap these days as well.

[Sailor Steve]

I've just recently discovered that if I keep graphics settings to a minimum I can live with the slow frame rates, as they are mostly a problem in external views and I use those as little as possible.

I've been playing with careers in both sides, and here is what I've discovered:

1) I kind of agree with the SH3 diehards who insist that even though the graphics in SH3 aren't as good, the ambience is better. It has a certain feel that I don't get with SH4 - yet.

2) I spent hours playing SH3 the other night without ever being in a convenient position to avoid the 'save-game bugs', so I couldn't save, only to have the game crash just before I was finally ready to.

3) I'm utterly amazed at the SH4 maps. I mean the fact that latitude and longitude are always displayed, and the Kriegsmarine maps have those and the KM grids...and the KM subgrids! No more looking at a printed subgrid chart and then at the screen and saying "I think that's BF1274."

4) In summary, I stand by my original feelings. SH4 is the better platform, but SH3 is the more developed product so far. I'll keep playing SH3 and I'll keep fiddling with SH4. So far the latter game has nothing giving the depth of SH3 Commander, and we all know that after years of working on ship names I'm not going to play a game seriously that doesn't allow for that.:rotfl: Also I still hate the silly names SH4 hands out, and it's even worse for the German side.

Still, I'm excited about the future, and I'm working on my own sound mods for SH4, so I must be heading in that direction.:sunny:

[sturmer]

i like to switch the games once in a while, sh3 has a certain feeling in the way of playing that sh4 doesnt offer. sh4 on the other hand has better sinkings. but i enjoy both of them very much

[karamazovnew]

I have both of them installed. I play SH3 with no external camera. Then, when I want to look at the waves, I exit the game and go to SH4. I guess it's all down to which side you want to play. Germans had ****y living conditions (maybe that's why SH3's older graphics seem more apropriate) and a hands-on targeting system (which makes the player feel like he's playing more than a game). That's why I'd rather go with them. The U-boat addon for SH4 is a bad joke because of the pooooooor implemented Notepad system :nope:. I once had a ship right in front of me at 4000m, perfectly visible but the game didn't allow me to target it for range finding because it was in a slight fog. Then I've tried Mikhayl's OLC-inspired interface for SH3 and I've never looked back. Now I'm on my fourth consecutive career, all with more than 1M tons each without saving/loading, 100% diff. I think I've lost about 100 sailors, poor souls :|\\.

[irish1958]

I play both, poorly.
If I were a real WWII Captain, I would be in the brig.
SHIII/GWX is more fun, SH4/TMO looks better.
Here is hoping for SH4/GWX.

[Frame57]

I played SHIII soley on my laptop when I travel. 4 does not play well at all on it. 4 for my main PC because of reasons already cited. I am chomping the bit to use a 47 inch lcd TV for a monitor and play 4 on that. I am a graphics junkie. The crew in 3 looks a bit zombi-ish and I dislike having to rotate the crews sleeping requirements. COBs or XO's job not the CO's. Also the action in 3 early on is horrifically slow. Didn't the Germans have greater success early on with blockading England? Where is that is 3? The gray pallor of the waters annoy me as well. The Med is very blue, but ubisoft seems to think that all the waters in the adjoining area are murkish. I actually get depressed playing 3, so 4 was the ticket and I hope that 5 will employ more realism that the modders currently work on.

[irish1958]

SH4 really looks good on my 48 inch monitor; and the surround sound adds a bit also.

[squadldr76]

I bounce back and forth as well. I'll run a patrol in SH3/GWX 3, then go over to SH4/TMO/RSRD. Now that I'm delving into manual targeting, I'm realizing that the methods both countries used are completely different beasts. :o

Plus, when I begin to suffer burnout, I'll fire up either Fallout 3 or one of the Elder Scrolls games. But other than those, that's about all I play now.

[Frame57]

I bounce back and forth as well. I'll run a patrol in SH3/GWX 3, then go over to SH4/TMO/RSRD. Now that I'm delving into manual targeting, I'm realizing that the methods both countries used are completely different beasts. :o

Plus, when I begin to suffer burnout, I'll fire up either Fallout 3 or one of the Elder Scrolls games. But other than those, that's about all I play now.I am not sure if Far Cry 2 is on PC, but I tell ya what it is awesome...

[ichso]

It would take too much time to enjoy both games to a good extend at the same time so I'm sticking with SH4 for now.

I also doubt that I will feel the urge to touch SH3 ever again when GWX4 is released :03:

[Bent Periscope]

My computer is too old so I doubt it could handle SH4 so I stay in SH3. But I do like reading what's happening with SH4 to see if I am enticed to buy a new computer. I'm sure I'll do so when SH5 comes out.

BP

[Akula4745]

I should get my copy of SH3 in a few days. I am always curious about a games predecessor - it tells you a lot about the development team... and also what improvement we might expect in an SH5.

Akula4745

[Rockin Robbins]

I have both games installed. I haven't played SH3 in about a year though. I find that playing U-Boats without wolfpacks is as pointless as playing SH4 without water. There is no way GWX or God himself can fix it because you would need AI wolfpack buddies with some reasonable behavior to recreate anything close to reality. The only reason SH3 is so popular is the movie "Das Boot" which also was light on wolfpack activity, focusing on life in the boat. This makes players think they are playing something close to reality. They are not. Just the same, I just enjoy the flavor of SH3. The "yesterday's" graphics just fit the game perfectly. Yeah, it's a hokey effect, because the world had just as much detail then as it does now, but just like the newspaper who prints the 1971 color photograph in black and white to make it look old, it works. The only thing that made me buy SH4 was that SH3 kept forgetting my career if I didn't maintain some arcane list of nonsensical rules for saving the game. SH4 has none of those problems.

I'm enjoying the heck out of SH4. But if it didn't exist I'd be enjoying the heck out of SH3, only saving when outside of sight of land, no targets or aircraft in detection range, never when submerged, always facing Mecca, never with a black cat in my lap, while reciting obscure incantations in German.....

[Akula4745]

...only saving when outside of sight of land, no targets or aircraft in detection range, never when submerged, always facing Mecca, never with a black cat in my lap, while reciting obscure incantations in German.....

You crack me up, RR! A healthy sense of humor if I ever read one...

Akula4745

[Sailor Steve]

Hey, I play SH3 and I object to RR's observations. My game doesn't crash when I save in those places, nor do I have to jump through any special hoops!

It does on the other hand crash for no apparent reason, and sometimes those just happen to coincide with the above-mentioned procedures.

But still...:dead:

[Rockin Robbins]

Actually I never had a problem with the game crashing. It would just forget about my career next time I started the game and I'd have to start over. I lost a couple of careers with 30 or so days of playing time on them and I was slightly miffed. It was fun when stupid me popped up in the SH3 forum asking for help and I got lots of variations of "hey dummy! You should know not to save if you haven't been ritually purified in chocolate today." That's my kind of purification!:D

Before I got the problem straightened out SH4 came out. It just ran great and I never looked back. Actually I have played SH3 missions off and on and they continue to be great fun. I consider the game itself (ignoring the save glitch) equal to SH4 in quality and think it's a shame that Ubi didn't update SH3 to SH4 visual quality rather than add U-Boats to SH4. Then we would have two healthy front-line submarine simulators.:up: