Deepest you've gone in a VIIC Early?

[msalama]

My record is 254m, attained yesterday. Now I don't know whether the auld gel could've still taken a meter or two, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out :D

You?

PS. GWX 3.0 is my preferred poison ATM if that makes any difference.

[Puster Bill]

At least 1,000 meters. :damn:

[Jimbuna]

1,001 meters :DL

[irish1958]

All the way to the bottom numerous times.:arrgh!:

[Murr44]

405 meters but still managed to surface.

[A Very Super Market]

Straight to the bottom. :cry:

[Lt.Fillipidis]

280m If i remember right. Tried to avoid a squadron of planes and in the "Crash Dive" proccess, i took a direct hit.Sank, but managed to bring it back on the suface with 7% integrity and a big hole on the bow section. :haha:

[Puster Bill]

1,000 meters plus infinity.

Seriously, though, I can't remember how deep I've gone and still made it back up, but it's got to be around 250 or 260 meters.

[Bosje]

287 and got back home, great ride

[Oneshot/Onekill]

Realistically Type VIIC U-boats had a crush depth of around 200meters.IMPO the crush depth's in game are way to extreme. Personally i dont go below 160-180 meters and thats only as a last resort! The type VIIC41 was designed to go much deeper than the type VIIC. The 7C main difference than the 7B was better sea keeping charatisitics, particulary the bow was redesigned. and the were the turret upgrades that the 7B did not have. other than that the 7b AND C both had single pressure hulls designed out of the same materials. The 7C41 on the other hand was designed with a DOUBLE pressure hull and used a different type of steel. If you are all refering to the Type VIIC41 here instead of the standard type VIIC then disregard everything i've just written.:)

[Graf Paper]

For all that redesign to give the VIIC better sea-keeping than the VIIB, you'd think it would have improved her speed. Instead, the VIIB is faster in all regards; suface speed, submerged speed, and dive time.

I've taken a VIIB all the way to 227 meters before I started taking damage from the pressure.

In the VIIC, that depth was not much greater... 234 meters.

Despite the VIIC/41's double-hull design, I've never gotten much past 240 meters without taking damage from the pressure.

I do used the "Randomize Crush Depth" feature in SH3 Commander, so that does make a difference. I like that little bit of uncertainty too add to the drama. When the question is always there, "She took this depth in the last patrol but can she survive this extreme depth again?", it makes for some some good fun.

[Oneshot/Onekill]

@Graf Paper, I think, and i am only speculating right now as i am too lazy to go back to some of my research materials right now, LOL. The reason that the type VIIC was slightly slower than the 7B, was 2 fold, 1 the length because of the redesigned bow was extended and thus the 7C was heavier than the 7B, they both used the same Diesel engine designs, and the same batteries, which as an end result gave the 7C a slighty lower surface and submerged speed AND reduced battery endurance underwater. One interesting thing to note the type VIIC41 had the same surface speed as the type VIIB, and without me doing a quick reference i am curious to know if that was because of the new type of Reenforced steel used, or an improved engine or supercharger? I would be interested to hear any theories.:yep:

[msalama]

Realistically Type VIIC U-boats had a crush depth of around 200meters.Uboat.net says their maximum depth was 220m. See here:

http://uboat.net/types/viic.htm

So my personal record of 254m might or mightn't be a tad über... but then, aren't there RL stories, too, of some VIICs diving to approx. 280m and surviving? Even if you don't believe Herbert Werner, who seems to have let his imagination run a bit wild when writing his memoirs...

Or maybe they (i.e. SH3Cmdr & random crush depth) really DID give me an exceptionally sturdy boat this time, huh???

PS. Sorry for the rambly tone, a slow day at the office here :damn:

[Otto Heinzmeir]

The trouble with finding the maximum depth. Is you have to keep going deeper and have the hull fail to know what the maximum is.:hmmm:

[Oneshot/Onekill]

@msalama. I said AROUND 200 meters. I was speaking from memory, i didnt have the energy at the time i wrote that to verify my accuracy.

[Oneshot/Onekill]

In addition, i can say with 99.9% certainty that if your able to dive to 260-280 meters, then you are out of the realm of realism and swimming in fantasy.

And if by some miracle you got that deep, your boat wouldn't be able to stay at that depth for a sustained amount of time.

[Task Force]

Ive only sailed a Viib. ive gone down to 223 m in her. (and thats pushin it.)

[msalama]

In addition, i can say with 99.9% certainty that if your able to dive to 260-280 meters, then you are out of the realm of realism and swimming in fantasy.

Hey, calma calma amigo, I agree. In my view anything past 220-230m is unsafe and 250m+ is suicidal. IMO I just got lucky this time b/c the boat was a sturdy one - as were some rare specimens IRL - and frankly speaking I was expecting her to pop any bloody minute down there! Luckily she didn't and back we came in one piece :ping:

Can you really go that deep (i.e. 250m+) as a SOP in this game, BTW? Because I've never really tried before, always levelled her off at 200-210m or so previously when under attack...

[Oneshot/Onekill]

Hey, calma calma amigo, I agree. In my view anything past 220-230m is unsafe and 250m+ is suicidal. IMO I just got lucky this time b/c the boat was a sturdy one - as were some rare specimens IRL - and frankly speaking I was expecting her to pop any bloody minute down there! Luckily she didn't and back we came in one piece :ping:

Can you really go that deep (i.e. 250m+) as a SOP in this game, BTW? Because I've never really tried before, always levelled her off at 200-210m or so previously when under attack...

Thanks for calming me down, i was dripping sweat in frustration.....LOL:har:

It does bug me alittle....just a little because it is after all just a game, but as you probably well know if you've done any research into the tech specs for these boats as i have done...that Kaluens just didnt routinely dive below 160m emergencies 180m, in an early typeVIIB or VIIC. They put that red danger area on the depth gauge for a reason guys.:yep:

[timmyab]

Early on in the war I don't go below 200m.The escorts are fairly easy to evade so there's no need anyway.Later on I'll go to 220 only if I'm in a very tight spot.Haven't been crushed yet in a DID campaign and that's as it should be.No point in doing the enemy's job for him.

[Sailor Steve]

For all that redesign to give the VIIC better sea-keeping than the VIIB, you'd think it would have improved her speed. Instead, the VIIB is faster in all regards; suface speed, submerged speed, and dive time.
Actually the VIIB was faster than the VIIC, by a very tiny amount.
http://www.uboat.net/types/viib.htm
http://www.uboat.net/types/viic.htm

[msalama]

Actually the VIIB was faster than the VIIC, by a very tiny amount.

Actually, Steve, that was what he said. :yep:

[Oneshot/Onekill]

It must be that senile syndrome thats going around. I caught it myself along time ago.:rotfl:

[goggles]

403m after hitting a mine off scapa (bottomed out)

made it back to the surface:smug:

[Task Force]

:o In a VIIC:o

[goggles]

yep i have no idea how i survived that one...what with flooding in every compartment and a weakened hull:o

sh3 cmdr randomise crush depth

the u boat gods were with us that day:yep:

[Pdubya]

I can definitely believe that there were a few boats IRL that were close to perfect wrt the hulls and steel quality. One would think that the chances of this happening would have been higher early in the war (or pre-war) when standards were good and materials were first rate. As time went by I imagine it all started downhill quality-wise.

It's the ultimate poker game.

"Can she fly?"
-Sure... bet your life!
"Can you build her in 90 days or less?
-Sure! bet your life!!
"I don't like the way you fellas say that... you see, I'm to be the pilot!"
(a paraphrased exerpt from "Spirit of St. Louis")

[TarJak]

275m in a VIIC in 1940.

[Sailor Steve]

Actually, Steve, that was what he said. :yep:
Actually, I'm blind.

And stupid.

And old.

Did I mention blind?:rotfl:

Sorry 'bout that.

[Puster Bill]

OK, today by accident (I wasn't paying attention) I drifted down to 270 meters.

I'm not sure how much damage I took, but I stopped getting warnings and light flickering around 250 meters on the way back up.

[Oneshot/Onekill]

I can definitely believe that there were a few boats IRL that were close to perfect wrt the hulls and steel quality. One would think that the chances of this happening would have been higher early in the war (or pre-war) when standards were good and materials were first rate. As time went by I imagine it all started downhill quality-wise.
It's the ultimate poker game.

"Can she fly?"
-Sure... bet your life!
"Can you build her in 90 days or less?
-Sure! bet your life!!
"I don't like the way you fellas say that... you see, I'm to be the pilot!"
(a paraphrased exerpt from "Spirit of St. Louis")

You would think so, but in truth it was somewhat the opposite. U-boat construction in reference to depth was actually better in 1940-42, than it was prewar to 39. But after 1942 U-boat quality did begin to decline, from rushed completion of new designs, allied bombing of industry, and lack of skilled ship builders, all in conjunction with an ever rapidly expanding U-bootwaffe. The best example of better depth keeping abilities after 1942 would be the constructon of the TypeVIIC41, which was far superior to any other Type up to that point in U-boat design.:up:

[coreykill]

327 meters scared me half to death hitting d and just letting it go...honestly was made much worse due to having thompsens depth guage...watching it just keep going....just wow

[Jimbuna]

I was once near the centre of the earth but the molten heat made her come up without having to blow the tanks :doh:

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