CHESS: Fatty v. Undersealcpl

[UnderseaLcpl]

Your move, fatty. Good luck:up:

[fatty]

1. e2-e4

Deus vult!

[UnderseaLcpl]

I think you made a typo. Was that e2-e4?

[fatty]

Hahahah, I'm off to an awesome start. Yes, I will fix it

[Skybird]

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1715/image2tns.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2tns.jpg)

[UnderseaLcpl]

No worries. How many times did I do the same thing in our last match?:oops:



Black 1) Ng8-f6

edit- ty sky

[fatty]

1. ... Ng8-f6
2. Nb1-c3

[UnderseaLcpl]

Sorry for the delay. I'll try to put a "*" at the end of my move when I'll be out for work.

Black 2)d7-d5

[Skybird]

Aljechin Defence, Chase Variation.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Undersealcpl Defense, Clueless variation:DL

[fatty]

Isn't this Scandinavian variation?

At any rate the delay is okay, I was exhausted so I went to bed after my move anyway. Gimme a few minutes to think this one over.

[Skybird]

Isn't this Scandinavian variation?

Ah, you're right, my fault.

[fatty]

2. ... d7-d5
3. e4xd5

[UnderseaLcpl]

Black 3) Nf6xd5

[Skybird]

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1142/image2cfn.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2cfn.jpg)

[fatty]

3. ... Nf6xd5
4. Ng1-f3

[UnderseaLcpl]

Black 4) e7-e6

[fatty]

4. ... e7-e6
5. d2-d4

[UnderseaLcpl]

I think I might get a thrashing from Sky but......

5)Nb8-c6

[Skybird]

No, why?! :06:

[fatty]

5. ... Nb8-c6
6. Nf3-e5

:salute:

[UnderseaLcpl]

No, why?! :06: You don't think it was a little.......ambitious? I figured I was messing up some sort of stronger opening postion.



I need some more time to work out my move, fatty. It looks like you're looking for an easy check, but perhaps I am missing something:hmmm:

[UnderseaLcpl]

6)Nc6xe5

Damn.

[fatty]

Cool, I am at school/work for the next 10 hours so I will probably not make a move until after then.

(unless someone posts an updated diagram)

:D

[fatty]

It looks like you're looking for an easy check, but perhaps I am missing something:hmmm:

Maybe I am... maybe you are... :know:

[Skybird]

(unless someone posts an updated diagram)

:D


No suggestive language, please. :cool:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4470/image2i.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2i.jpg)

[fatty]

Oh yes, it's all coming back to me now.

6. ... Nc6xe5
7. d4xe5

[UnderseaLcpl]

7) c7-c6


Sorry for the wait. Work again.

[fatty]

I had better make a move before Neal breaks the forum again.

7. ... c7-c6
8. Nc3-e4

Are you still working as a train engineer? Or was that my imagination?

[UnderseaLcpl]

Yay! It's back:woot:


Yes, I'm still an engineer but right now I am working as a conductor. No engineer posts available for my level of seniority. Once I can't hold conductor, I'll be laid off for a bit.


8)Qd8-a5+

Looks like you've got plans for d6:hmmm: I didn't think you'd move on it this early.

So how are things with you? Is that essay done yet?

[fatty]

8. ... Qd8-a5+
9. c3-c5

Cool. I cannot get the image of Ringo Starr on Shining Time Station out of my head now when trying to think of a modern train conductor.

Yes, it's all done (http://jmgillis.com/jmgillis_thesis.pdf), thankfully, just have to wait and get my oral exam over with and then I am freeeeeee.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Awesome, thanks for the link. I'm printing it out now for some reading material tonight if you don't mind.

I think your move has a typo, though.

[fatty]

Damn, yes, fatigue again ;)

c2-c3 obviously.

[fatty]

Awesome, thanks for the link. I'm printing it out now for some reading material tonight if you don't mind.

Go nuts, but at 61 pages I weep for your ink cartridge, my wallet is still hurting from the trip to the printer's.

[baggygreen]

Go nuts, but at 61 pages I weep for your ink cartridge, my wallet is still hurting from the trip to the printer's.
Laser is the way to go, take it from me - 2 years in the printing business:03:

By the way, this is shaping up to be a lovely match

[UnderseaLcpl]

Dang it. I think I should have thought more carefully about that last move, now.
Need some time to think......

[fatty]

Laser is the way to go, take it from me - 2 years in the printing business:03:

By the way, this is shaping up to be a lovely match

Laser was what they did I think, turned out great, but four copies with binding ran me upwards of $100

[UnderseaLcpl]

9) Qa5-c7 :wah:

[Skybird]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3443/image1jfx.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1jfx.jpg)

[fatty]

9. ... Qa5-c7

Get back up there!

10. Qd1-d4

[UnderseaLcpl]

10) Qc7xe5

I only made it to section 3 of your paper last night, but I'm liking it so far.

[fatty]

10) Qc7xe5

Hmm, are you sure about that one?

I only made it to section 3 of your paper last night, but I'm liking it so far.

Thanks, hopefully you don't find any glaring flaws as it's already been submitted! :oops: I promise, as dry as it is right now, it gets better.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Hmm, are you sure about that one?



Yeah, I think so:-? Why?

[fatty]

:06:

[UnderseaLcpl]

Did I map a move wrong?

[Skybird]

Did I map a move wrong?


http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1205/fullmetaljacketermey.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fullmetaljacketermey.jpg)

". . . ! ? ! ?"


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4195/image3a.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image3a.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6979/image4lsf.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image4lsf.jpg)

[UnderseaLcpl]

Oops:oops: I had your queen on a4.

bc8-d7, in that case

[fatty]

That's better :salute:

10. ... Bc8-d7
11. Ne4-d6+

[UnderseaLcpl]

11. bf8xd6


I finished reading your essay. Good job:up:

I disagree with the conclusion a little bit. Part of your conclusion indicates that states should contribute to the economic development of pirate states like Somalia, even though this has been costly and ultimately ineffective in the past. Even though you are quite correct in pointing out the prominence of economic hardships as a cause of piracy, the solution is not ideal, imo. Personally, I'd prefer to see nations develop regulations permitting the arming of merchant ships and the use of mercenary marines.

Other than that, I really enjoyed and essentially agreed with the whole thing. It looks like you put a lot of work in and I'm sure you will recieve high marks. If you don't mind I'd like to save it as a resource for future citeable reference.

[fatty]

11. ... Bf8xd6
12. e5xd6

Thanks for your comments, glad you enjoyed it :)

[UnderseaLcpl]

12.Qc7xd6

[fatty]

12. ... Qc7xd6
13. c3-c4

[UnderseaLcpl]

13. e6-e5

[fatty]

13. ... e6-e5
14. Qd4-d1

[UnderseaLcpl]

14. Ra8-c8

[fatty]

14. ... Ra8-c8
15. c4xNd5

[Skybird]

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7850/image2y.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2y.jpg)

[UnderseaLcpl]

15) c6xd5

[fatty]

15. ... c6xd5
16. Bf1-e2

[UnderseaLcpl]

16) 0-0

[fatty]

16. ... O-O
17. O-O

This is turning out to be a good game.

[Skybird]

This is turning out to be a good game.

1 Bishop traded for 2 pawns (=1 pawn difference in material: advantage for White)

White has the pair of bishops. White advantage in this position.

Black has the centre, and one Rook firing on open line, and maybe is slightly ahead in developement. Black advantages.



You lead the material , but you must still win this, Fatty! ;)

[UnderseaLcpl]

Isn't it though:woot:

17)Qd6-g6

Too bad I'm down a bishop.....

[fatty]

17. ... Qd6-g6
18. Qd1-d3

[UnderseaLcpl]

I don't have time to think this out enough right now, I have a dinner appointment.

I'll have a response later tonight.

[fatty]

1 Bishop traded for 2 pawns (=1 pawn difference in material: advantage for White)

White has the pair of bishops. White advantage in this position.

Black has the centre, and one Rook firing on open line, and maybe is slightly ahead in developement. Black advantages.

Yeah, all good points. I think I had a good grip on the centre by move 10, but what good is controlling the centre if you're not capturing pieces :D Aim for the jugular and never look back!

[fatty]

I don't have time to think this out enough right now, I have a dinner appointment.

I'll have a response later tonight.

Okay, have a good night :()1:

[Skybird]

Yeah, all good points. I think I had a good grip on the centre by move 10, but what good is controlling the centre if you're not capturing pieces :D Aim for the jugular and never look back!

Time. Space. Material. Each can be transformed into the other, each can be traded for the other. Material is not all. ;)

[UnderseaLcpl]

I'm back.
God, what a night:dead:


18) d5-d4

[fatty]

Hot date?

18. ... d5-d4
19. Qd3xQg6

[UnderseaLcpl]

19. h7xg6 :damn::damn::damn: I hate queen trades:cry:

Hot date?

Hardly. You wouldn't believe this s*** if I told you.

[fatty]

19. h7xg6 :damn::damn::damn: I hate queen trades:cry:

Well I hate 19. ... Bd7-c6 and 20. ... Qg6xg2# even more ;)

Hardly. You wouldn't believe this s*** if I told you.

Hahah, now you gotta spill the beans!

20. Be2-f3

[UnderseaLcpl]

Well I hate 19. ... Bd7-c6 and 20. ... Qg6xg2# even more ;)

That was easily blockable with your f2 pawn. I wish I was better at calculating the value of an exchange.

Hahah, now you gotta spill the beans!
Yeah, I kinda wanted to ask anyway. How many women have you dated that honest-to-god thought that they were witches? With real supernatural powers? This was my second. And I don't mean wierd goth chicks. Just girls who, at first glance, seem to be normal. Is this some kind of a fad?


20.) Bd7-c6

[Skybird]

Lance, you are behind in material (bishop (3 points) vs 2 pawns (2x1 points) ).

when you lead in material, you try to trade figures. The closer to endgame you are and the less material there is on the board, the heavier your material advantage scores.

When you are behind in material, you therefore try to evade trades. And you do not offer trades.

General rules, there are exceptions possible, but often they are valid.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3087/image1plm.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1plm.jpg)

[UnderseaLcpl]

It wasn't supposed to be an exchange. I didn't think he was willing to trade queens yet:doh:

[fatty]

That was easily blockable with your f2 pawn. I wish I was better at calculating the value of an exchange.


Yeah, I kinda wanted to ask anyway. How many women have you dated that honest-to-god thought that they were witches? With real supernatural powers? This was my second. And I don't mean wierd goth chicks. Just girls who, at first glance, seem to be normal. Is this some kind of a fad?


20.) Bd7-c6

Oh yeah. I knew a tall, slim, tanned bio major once, with short brown hair and the kind of figure you'd want to plow until the middle of next July. However upon conversing at length she revealed that she was a "practical spiritualist" and was also firmly opposed to shaving. Then I suddenly remembered I had important plans elsewhere :o

21. Bf3xc6

[fatty]

It wasn't supposed to be an exchange. I didn't think he was willing to trade queens yet:doh:

I'm a loose cannon :arrgh!:

[UnderseaLcpl]

21) Rc8xc6

I'm glad I'm not the only one to run into those types. But did this "practical spiritualist" think she could cast spells?

[fatty]

21. ... Rc8xc6
22. Rf1-e1

I guess not. I will keep my distance from you in case you spontaneously combust from the magic.

[UnderseaLcpl]

22) Rf8-c8

Actually, she told me that it's called magik or majik or something. Whatever. I hope she likes my disappearing act.:shifty:

[fatty]

22. ... Rf8-c8
23. f2-f4

[baggygreen]

22) Rf8-c8

Actually, she told me that it's called magik or majik or something. Whatever. I hope she likes my disappearing act.:shifty:I been there too mate, but mine swore she could move things with her mind. One example was in making pool balls sink on the table. I started explaining simple geometry, but gave up. Then there was the whole speaking to ghosts thing. Apparently they told her everything that was going to happen and everything that people had done.

They sure didnt tell her i was taking a hike!

[UnderseaLcpl]

23. e5-e4



Then there was the whole speaking to ghosts thing. Apparently they told her everything that was going to happen and everything that people had done.


You've got to be kidding me! My brother's ex and her mother both thought ghosts talked to them. Specifically, the ghosts told them when someone was talking about them and when the phone was going to ring. :rotfl:
How many people are there like this!?:haha:

[fatty]

23. ... e5-e4
24. Bc1-d2

[UnderseaLcpl]

24.) f7-f5

[Skybird]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5028/image1vej.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1vej.jpg)

[porphy]

UnderseaLcpl has unleashed his army of zombie pawns, they are coming for your brain fatty... :DL

[fatty]

:dead:

24. f7-f5
25. Ra1-c1

[Skybird]

:dead:

24. f7-f5
25. Ra1-c1
Oooops.

Black has serious chances to turn the rudder.

[porphy]

< slow, staggering but relentless footsteps approaches King Fattys' castle.... >

[UnderseaLcpl]

I hope this is the move Sky was talking about.....

25.) e4-e3

[fatty]

< slow, staggering but relentless footsteps approaches King Fattys' castle.... >

We shall defend the king's rank, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the C file, we shall fight on the passed pawns, we shall fight on the diagonals and in the corners, we shall fight in the castle; we shall never resign, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, white's pieces or a large part of them were subjugated and captured, then our pieces in the next game, armed and guarded by the two pawns I am currently behind, would carry on the struggle, until, in Skybird's good time, playing as black, with all its power and lack of first-move advantage, steps forth to the checkmate and the liberation of the old.

:D

25. ... e4-e3
26. Rc1xc6

[UnderseaLcpl]

26.)b7xc6

[fatty]

26. ... b7xc6
27. Bd2xe3

[UnderseaLcpl]

27.) b4xd3


----------
If 28). If re1xe3 then
28.) rc8-d8

[fatty]

27.) b4xd3


Assume you meant d4xe3?

[UnderseaLcpl]

Oops. Yes.

[fatty]

No prob.

29. b2-b3

[UnderseaLcpl]

29) c6-c5


Man the pressure's on now:DL

[fatty]

29. ... c6-c5
30. Re3-e7

[UnderseaLcpl]

30.a7-a5

[fatty]

30. ... a7-a5
31. a2-a4

[UnderseaLcpl]

31.rd8-c8

[UnderseaLcpl]

That's my last for the night. Bedtime:yawn:

[fatty]

31. ... Rd8-c8
32. Re7-a7

[fatty]

Same for me, 2am here, great playing so far Lance, see you tomorrow.

[Skybird]

This is becoming the longest match in subsim.com's history. No swords left to cut it short...


http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9287/image1cwn.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1cwn.jpg)

[UnderseaLcpl]

Thanks for sticking with it and posting the pics, Sky:salute:

32. c5-c4

[Skybird]

You were a bit fast last night, and I was absent, that's why I lagged behind. Else, the rule of thumb is: 1 pic every 3 full moves! :lol:

[fatty]

32. ... c5-c4
33. b3xc4

If your 33. ... Rc8xc4 then my 34. Ra7xa5

[fatty]

Yeah I think this is the longest, I did a search and the longest I could find was when I played baggy, that made it to 31 moves.

[UnderseaLcpl]

35) Rc4xf4

This is a fun match. I'm not sure if I can win it from here, but you'll know you were in a fight:DL

[fatty]

35. ... Rc4xf4
36. Ra5-a8+

[UnderseaLcpl]

35.) Kg8-h7

[fatty]

35. ... Kg8-h7
36. a4-a5

[Skybird]

This is a fun match. I'm not sure if I can win it from here, but you'll know you were in a fight:DL

You had your chances, first to gain solid advanatge, then to at least equalise. But you spoiled them. As I see it, now you are probably loosing (if Fatty does not make any real bad mistakes from now on).

Sorry to bust your dreams. :cool:



http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/637/image1g.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image1g.jpg)

[UnderseaLcpl]

36. Rf4-a4

[Skybird]

Damn I have messed up the colours and players. Forget what I said above. My wrong, sorry.

[fatty]

Hahah, so it really me who is doomed.

36. ... Rf4-a4
37. h2-h3

[Skybird]

No. My comment was a very fast and unaimed shot, and very unpolite towards Lance. Even more, I messed up the rapid calculation and positional overview I did. Shouldn't have done both. My apologies for both.

As I see it from here, and hopefilly with some more precision :hmmm:, it either ends as an enforced draw by move repetition, or white victory.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Hahah, so it really me who is doomed.
If so, I can't see it, so you still have a chance.
I see I need to give my king an out, though.


37. g6-g5

[fatty]

37. ... g6-g5
38. a5-a6

[Skybird]

Nobody can enforce a win anymore - only with friendly help of his opponent.

You can run this for a very long time to come now, but I'm sure you would be going nowhere, gentlemen. You can't win by any correct moves anymore - but you can lose by any wrong moves. If I were you I would offer or accept a draw now. ;)

P.S. Since I do not play here, I let the machine calculate it 20 moves ahead, and it confirmed my assessement.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I'll agree to a draw. Fatty?

[fatty]

Agreed.

[Site "SUBSIM.Com"]
[Date "3-14-2009"]
[White "fatty"]
[Black "UnderseaLCpl"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e2-e4 Ng8-f6
2. Nb1-c3 d7-d5
3. e4xd5 Nf6xd5
4. Ng1-f3 e7-e6
5. d2-d4 Nb8-c6
6. Nf3-e5 Nc6xe5
7. d4xe5 c7-c6
8. Nc3-e4 Qd8-a5+
9. c2-c3 Qa5-c7
10. Qd1-d4 Bc8-d7
11. Ne4-d6+ Bf8xd6
12. e5xd6 Qc7xd6
13. c3-c4 e6-e5
14. Qd4-d1 Ra8-c8
15. c4xd5 c6xd5
16. Bf1-e2 O-O
17. O-O Qd6-g6
18. Qd1-d3 d5-d4
19. Qd3xg6 h7xg6
20. Be2-f3 Bd7-c6
21. Bf3xc6 Rc8xc6
22. Rf1-e1 Rf8-c8
23. f2-f4 e5-e4
24. Bc1-d2 f7-f5
25. Ra1-c1 e4-e3
26. Rc1xc6 b7xc6
27. Bd2xe3 d4xe3
28. Re1xe3 Rc8-d8
29. b2-b3 c6-c5
30. Re3-e7 a7-a5
31. a2-a4 Rd8-c8
32. Re7-a7 c5-c4
33. b3xc4 Rc8xc4
34. Ra7xa5 Rc4xf4
35. Ra5-a8+ Kg8-h7
36. a4-a5 Rf4-a4
37. h2-h3 g6-g5
38. a5-a6 1/2-1/2

Great game! Some slip ups and weak play on my end of course, my only hope there at the end was to get that pawn promoted but once you slipped your rook onto the A line I guess that was that.

[fatty]

http://www.mastercleanco.com/images/handshake.jpg

[UnderseaLcpl]

Thanks for a great match, fatty.
I felt like I was on the ropes most of the time, good job.:salute:

[fatty]

Well I gave up the initiative on more than one occasion. Reading now, I guess Nb1-c3 is one of the weaker responses to Alekhine's defence, and more popular is to push the E pawn and attack the knight. I was skeptical of moving a piece twice in my opening.