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Foxtrot
03-13-09, 02:16 AM
I am seriously quite shocked to know this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1159677/Pictured-The -credit-crunch-tent-city-returned-haunt-America.html
The BBC did a news story about tent cities in Los Angeles which were politically censored by the national American media and government. Now do American public have to depend on foreign media about such aspects of their society in their own backyard? Where is that "freedom of speech" chanting crowd?
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/03/19/welcome-to-tent-city-america-style/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7297093.stm
Skybird
03-13-09, 07:16 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/05/article-1159677-03C17BBC000005DC-601_634x516.jpg
What a striking image. What a face, and eye expression. Says so much without a word.
Do you know what in banker'S slang an OD customer was?
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,613102,00.html
Free enterprise, free self-regulating market, yeah, sure. Free betrayal, free deception, free lying.
AVGWarhawk
03-13-09, 07:25 AM
Actually, there was a story on this tent city over the weekend. I do not recall what station carried it. It was either CNN or FOX.
Frame57
03-13-09, 10:29 AM
Sorry but those are pics of homeless tent cities that have been around for quite some time now. Filled with drug addicts and alcoholics for the most part.
Onkel Neal
03-13-09, 10:47 AM
Sorry but those are pics of homeless tent cities that have been around for quite some time now. Filled with drug addicts and alcoholics for the most part.
I'm shocked! :arrgh!:
Tent cities, old news.
America is a great country. Even our homeless people are fat... :yep:
Frame57
03-13-09, 11:00 AM
America is a great country. Even our homeless people are fat... :yep:Yep! I know a family of three that are poor by choice. they all are over 250 lbs and not by muscle. Once in a while the dad asks to borrow money cuz they are a little short till payday. So, I will say, I am going to the grocery store and will pick something up for you. I get in reply, "Naw we want to have Carls JR. tonight..." And they wonder why they are fat???
AVGWarhawk
03-13-09, 11:03 AM
Reminds me of a pan-handler in my hometown. I watched hin as my wife was in the grocery story. It came to about 4:30 pm and he packed up his help me sign and walked over to his rather new Ford LTD. :timeout: Anyway, this activity along with 'tent cities' have been outlawed in my county. It works also. :yep:
Frame57
03-13-09, 11:18 AM
People will often take the path of least resistance, and for many it is panhandling. No taxes and they all were "Vietnam Vets". I love it when I see a 40 year old with a sign like that. I make no bones about calling him a liar to his face. Actually had one throw a beer bottle at me once in Frisco. My Neice was "homeless" again by choice. Once she completed an in house rehab program she is doing OK now. So I chatted with her about why most of them refuse programs available to them. She just said, "Because it means they will have to get off of drugs or booze and they do not want to".
Onkel Neal
03-13-09, 11:20 AM
The BBC did a news story about tent cities in Los Angeles which were politically censored by the national American media and government. Now do American public have to depend on foreign media about such aspects of their society in their own backyard? Where is that "freedom of speech" chanting crowd?
Hey Foxtrot,
http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&ncl=1314086493
Lots of US news stories there, why you trying to paint this as a conspiracy? :)
Neal
Having lived in Las Vegas for a couple of years, where "tent cities" live under every freeway and most areas of otherwise unoccupied downtown desert, I struggle to be shocked...
SkysTheLimit
03-19-09, 10:23 PM
America is a great country. Even our homeless people are fat... :yep:
Thanks for the good laugh !
Thanks for the good laugh !
I'm honored to be your fourth post. :up:
UnderseaLcpl
03-19-09, 11:33 PM
Free enterprise, free self-regulating market, yeah, sure. Free betrayal, free deception, free lying.
Point of interest Sky, California is the most socialist state in the Union.
It is also the only state to ever declare bankruptcy and has the biggest wealth gap.
You often make good arguments for a superior social market economy, but there is one question I have asked you that has never been satisfactorily answered. Who, exactly, is trustworthy enough to administer and maintain such a system?
Only the minimally but effectively regulated market can be trusted. Strong anti-fraud and anti-trust regulation is needed, but little else. The consumers shape the market every day with their choices.
You can make any argument you like, but the proof is in the pudding. Compare Texas to California, and what do you see? How about China's special economic zones and the rest of the country? Or any of the southeast Asian tigers and the rest of southeast Asia?
Even Europe's most prosperous economies also reside in the states with the most economic freedom, with the exception of Norway. And obviously, I mean the most proportionately successful economies in terms of GDP per capita.
It is undeniable that a free market economy is pivotal to the continued success of a nation. I'm sure that you would join me in supporting strict and harsh anti-fraud regulation. However, the power of the state must be strictly limited as well. Much of Europe has already seen the harms that come with trusting the state to fix problems which should be the domain of the citizenry, no?
What I think you fail to see is that everything is a market. Politics included. Of course, in the political market, only a few have any real influence. The free market itself, in a free society, seperated from the state as much as possible, will always fix itself. It cannot do otherwise.
People control the market directly through their purchases and democratic representation.
But bequeathing such power upon the state is tantamount to plutocracy. You know that, and you know how unacceptable it is. How can you regulate the state's interests?
Not only is the free market the best choice, it is the only choice. Everything else leads to a socially destructive statist elite, eventually. How many times must we learn that lesson?
Spike88
03-20-09, 07:23 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/05/article-1159677-03C17BBC000005DC-601_634x516.jpg
What a striking image. What a face, and eye expression. Says so much without a word.
This picture is in several of the history books we had while growing up.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/05/article-1159677-03C00530000005DC-504_634x426.jpg
Woah. The black lady in the center resembles Whoopee Goldberg.
AVGWarhawk
03-20-09, 09:20 AM
It looks like the Woodstock concert:shifty: Come on everybody now, smile on your brother and start loving one another right now.........:shifty:
nikimcbee
03-21-09, 03:09 PM
Sorry but those are pics of homeless tent cities that have been around for quite some time now. Filled with drug addicts and alcoholics for the most part.
Yeah, roger that Portland has a large homeless tent city:shifty:. And a few years ago, there was a big flap about the city "giving" them eletricity. It's a lifestyle here.:shifty:
nikimcbee
03-21-09, 03:10 PM
Point of interest Sky, California is the most socialist state in the Union.
It is also the only state to ever declare bankruptcy and has the biggest wealth gap.
You often make good arguments for a superior social market economy, but there is one question I have asked you that has never been satisfactorily answered. Who, exactly, is trustworthy enough to administer and maintain such a system?
Only the minimally but effectively regulated market can be trusted. Strong anti-fraud and anti-trust regulation is needed, but little else. The consumers shape the market every day with their choices.
You can make any argument you like, but the proof is in the pudding. Compare Texas to California, and what do you see? How about China's special economic zones and the rest of the country? Or any of the southeast Asian tigers and the rest of southeast Asia?
Even Europe's most prosperous economies also reside in the states with the most economic freedom, with the exception of Norway. And obviously, I mean the most proportionately successful economies in terms of GDP per capita.
It is undeniable that a free market economy is pivotal to the continued success of a nation. I'm sure that you would join me in supporting strict and harsh anti-fraud regulation. However, the power of the state must be strictly limited as well. Much of Europe has already seen the harms that come with trusting the state to fix problems which should be the domain of the citizenry, no?
What I think you fail to see is that everything is a market. Politics included. Of course, in the political market, only a few have any real influence. The free market itself, in a free society, seperated from the state as much as possible, will always fix itself. It cannot do otherwise.
People control the market directly through their purchases and democratic representation.
But bequeathing such power upon the state is tantamount to plutocracy. You know that, and you know how unacceptable it is. How can you regulate the state's interests?
Not only is the free market the best choice, it is the only choice. Everything else leads to a socially destructive statist elite, eventually. How many times must we learn that lesson?
You get what you vote for.:yeah:
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