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SUBMAN1
03-10-09, 08:09 PM
What do you guys think of the thought police? I mean, if you have a belief, this is the government telling you that you can't think that way. I mean, I could understand if you didn't have an alternate choice to see someone else, and that was that, but in all these cases, the patients are referred to someone else that can help them on whatever weirdness that they seek, so they are not left hanging.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701104.html?hpid=topnews

To me, this is forcing thought on peoples ways of life. What do you guys think? I mean, if a doctor is going to want to commit suicide because he was forced to perform an abortion, how is this right? Its not like this patient couldn't find 20,000 abortion clinics happy to do the work for them...

This is just wrong in my opinion.

I would also like to know what science they are referring to? I mean, what are the chances pf finding a person doing a job that they find morally wrong? So why force this down people throats that are not involved? Again, its the thought police.

-S

Kapt Z
03-10-09, 10:37 PM
Seems hard to believe that a medical professional who was opposed to abortion could not find a sector of the medical field that did not require them to perform one.

The issue that bothers me more is with say a pharmacist who refused to fill a order of a customer's legally prescribed birth control pills for religious reasons. None of the pharmacist's 'bleeping' business. The man/woman behind the counter is there to see that the prescription is filled correctly and answer any questions the customer might have, period. If he/she cannot due that in good conscience, then they need to find another line of work.

SUBMAN1
03-10-09, 10:40 PM
Is there another use for the pills the pharmacists is supplying?

Also, the law requires someone capable of doing the surgery to do it. Now there sits the sticking point. If you are in an abortion clinic to perform abortions, I can understand, but a simple family practitioner (Which we don't have enough of) or gynecologist? Excuse me?

-S

Kapt Z
03-10-09, 10:57 PM
Is there another use for the pills the pharmacists is supplying?

Also, the law requires someone capable of doing the surgery to do it. Now there sits the sticking point. If you are in an abortion clinic to perform abortions, I can understand, but a simple family practitioner (Which we don't have enough of) or gynecologist? Excuse me?

-S

There is always another use for everything....that's why they put that warning label about 'do not ingest' on paint cans.:O:

I could be wrong of course, but I don't think women go to their GP for a abortion. If they inquire with him/her the doc should be required to refer them to a clinic.

Etienne
03-10-09, 11:15 PM
Is there another use for the pills the pharmacists is supplying?

Many women use BC pills to regulate their periods, or reduce them.

My ex used BC primarily to control an acne issue. They also, um, had surgery-like result on, you know... Yeah. I'm pro BC.

Kazuaki Shimazaki II
03-11-09, 12:42 AM
What do you guys think of the thought police? I mean, if you have a belief, this is the government telling you that you can't think that way. I mean, I could understand if you didn't have an alternate choice to see someone else, and that was that, but in all these cases, the patients are referred to someone else that can help them on whatever weirdness that they seek, so they are not left hanging.
By your standard, I can flat-out refuse to hire blacks (or any other minority, or gender...) in my shop because that's my thought.
The government doesn't tell you you can't think a certain way. In the absence of remote mind-reading and controlling tech this is an impossibility anyway. It, however, prevents people from putting many of their thoughts into actual action in the name of the greater good.
To me, this is forcing thought on peoples ways of life. What do you guys think? I mean, if a doctor is going to want to commit suicide because he was forced to perform an abortion, how is this right? Its not like this patient couldn't find 20,000 abortion clinics happy to do the work for them...
I'm sorry. As a health practitioner, he has a duty to perform the abortion, as long as he's capable of doing so. If he's not capable of doing it he should be referring you to someone who's able (assuming he knows any). Moral or religious feelings don't come into it. Period.
Think of it this way. Suppose said doctor performed the abortion and now needs psychiatric help. However, his psychiatrist has something religious against helping people who participate in abortion, so now he's without help. Is that fair to the doctor?