R U a Dedicated P-38 flyer?

[Mush Martin]

Are any of my fellow subsimmers dedicated Lockheed Lovers in
IL-2(FB) ?

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if so check in below and we will hook up for some mp time.

M

[FIREWALL]

P-38 > Very Deadly For a very good P-38 Campain google " Dust Devils "

[Mush Martin]

Thanks Firewall will do :up:

[Task Force]

p 38 it a pretty good plane. will look up that campaign.:DL

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

The P-38 Lighting is one of my favorite planes made by the US, the others are the Wildcat, Corsair, and Mustang.:rock:

[Fincuan]

I like the -38 in the Pacific, but no so much in ETO. It's especially lovely against the pre-44 Japs because the armament is enough to light one up in no time, and there's no way they'll catch you. In Europe it's quite another thing, especially after 1943. The post-43 Luftie rides aren't only more maneuverable than you, but also almost as fast or even faster. It's not so big a problem against the AI, but it's a different game against humans.

[Mush Martin]

I like the -38 in the Pacific, but no so much in ETO. It's especially lovely against the pre-44 Japs because the armament is enough to light one up in no time, and there's no way they'll catch you. In Europe it's quite another thing, especially after 1943. The post-43 Luftie rides aren't only more maneuverable than you, but also almost as fast or even faster. It's not so big a problem against the AI, but it's a different game against humans.


By and Large I would agree with your assessment Particularly where
the top end speed is concerned in ETO
however I maintain that the aileron boosters if the P-38L(late) Model
are a lot more than just dive brakes, there function was to redirect
air back onto the control surfaces at high speeds. therefore..........
at times when the lightning (1944L late) is operating comfortably above
four hundred mph it can turn inside of everything especially above twenty
K feet. ( at least for the first few turns. ) so it isnt helpless completely
though I admit a certain wariness when it comes to FW190's and TA152's

M

[Task Force]

yea, main issue with the p 38 with me is when the elevator locks up due to excess speed.

[Mush Martin]

activate the airelon boosters and get control back.
(use dive brake control)

I am odd in that I dont have the throttle on the slider on my
joystick I have it hooked to elevator trim and using that I still
have elevator function within the energy curve of the aircraft
and the ability to stay inside of blackouts for the pilot.
its a constant AOA adjustment and is great for Placing the pipper
in a high speed turning shot.

[Fincuan]

I agree that the spoilers/boosters are very effective in increasing your turn rate, especially in snap turns. You can in fact outturn a veteran AI A6M5 even in slow speeds with them+combat flaps, but I don't like to use them much when skilled humans are around. Turning just doesn't fit the image of the P-38. You wouldn't of course even need to do that against Zippos, but those damn Lolwaffle rides... :D

The elevator lock-up is a bad thing indeed, especially because it kicks in in MUCH slower speeds in IL2 vs. real life. Hence "teh P-38 is porked". I'm aware of one mod that supposedly fixes this, but I haven't been able to download it yet. It's an FM mod so you won't see it at AAA. In the meantime I'll also be using the elevator trim on a wheel. It's quite useful in preventing "the fork-tailed lawndart"-phenomenom :haha:

[Mush Martin]

The one thing I did notice is that when the aircraft spawns ingame
it spawns with the elevator depressed in the trim maybe 25% so
as part of my start routine I always center my slider on the mark
and then hit elevator trim neutral to correct this prior to take off.
It may actually have some effect because I had forgotten all about
the elevator failure tendency. Still it seems more likely that I am having
a much reduced failure rate because 98% of the time I am working the
elevator on the trim slider not the main stick. so assumably I am not
forcing it to the extremes.

M

[Fincuan]

Oh there's no particular elevator failure, just that the elevators will be rock solid at ridiculously low speeds. Past 650 km/h trim is practically the only way to move the damn thing. Kind of like 109s, but much much worse. Take any P-38 for a few high speed dives without using the "air brakes", then do the same thing in any P-51 and you'll rip the wings off in the pullout :lol:

[Mush Martin]

thats kind of my point I have now a bunch more times than I could
count and I admit I used to have the problem but working off of the
trim slide method I plain forgot about it. and yes I do mean often
without the boosters.

I just dig that crazy plane first born of the skunkworks granpappy of
them all.
M