Vista Problem with SH4

[Larry U-136]

Everytime I load SH4 into my computer and run the game it crashes. I have the following system:

Gateway FX6800-01e
Intel Core i7CPU 920@2.67 GHZ
3.00 GB RAM
64-bit operating system Vista Home Premium

Can anyone help on this topic?

[theluckyone17]

How far do you get before SH4 crashes?

[Master]

I ran into the same problem when I loaded it from steam but that was because I downloaded both sh4 and the expansion at the same time. You need to download sh4 play it and then exit and download the expansion pack. I am not sure if that is your problem but if you are using steam it might be.

[Soundman]

You may need to do this.. Right click on the .exe file (SH4 icon) and select "Run as Administrator". Hope this helps. I know I needed to. :yep:

[irish1958]

You didn't install it in the program files, did you?

[Soundman]

You didn't install it in the program files, did you?

Yes, I've heard it's best not to, (after the fact) but most folks won't know this until it's too late. My install is in "Program Files" and I don't have any problems. Once it's up and running, it probably won't matter.

[snakeyez]

You did let it install the DirectX part of the install didn't you? For some reason, even though I already have DirectX installed, the game won't run without me letting SH4 reinstall the DirectX it wants.

[Seminole]

Everytime I load SH4 into my computer and run the game it crashes. I have the following system:

Gateway FX6800-01e
Intel Core i7CPU 920@2.67 GHZ
3.00 GB RAM
64-bit operating system Vista Home Premium

Can anyone help on this topic?

I feel confident saying that your problem is not a Vista problem as stated. I've been running SHIV since last June with zero problems.

Most likely culprit in these instances turns out to be due to an installation snafu most often mod related.


Good luck.

[Soundman]

You did let it install the DirectX part of the install didn't you? For some reason, even though I already have DirectX installed, the game won't run without me letting SH4 reinstall the DirectX it wants.

Yes. good avice here as well, I forgot that one. :up:

[theluckyone17]

My install is in "Program Files" and I don't have any problems. Once it's up and running, it probably won't matter.

It won't, unless you're running mods. Then a "feature" of Vista crops up... "Compatibility Files". PCMag has a short & sweet explanation of it here (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2124519,00.asp).

Basically, Vista won't let you (or JSGME) change the files located in SH4's subdirectories. Instead, it dumps the new files in a different spot, the "Virtual Store" location mentioned in the article. It's anyone's guess at that point what file SH4 is going to get when it requests it.

So if there's a game that you're considering modding on Vista, make sure you install it somewhere other than "C:\Program Files". I'd suggest "C:\Games".

This probably isn't the problem that the original poster is having, though.

[Larry U-136]

Okay, I loaded the stock SH4 and no patches, it crashed right after the menu. I read previously that someone changed the video card settings from x4 to 16 but I am not sure what that means. SH3 runs fine no issues. I installed the SH4 game outside the program files.

[Soundman]

My install is in "Program Files" and I don't have any problems. Once it's up and running, it probably won't matter.

It won't, unless you're running mods. Then a "feature" of Vista crops up... "Compatibility Files". PCMag has a short & sweet explanation of it here (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2124519,00.asp).

Basically, Vista won't let you (or JSGME) change the files located in SH4's subdirectories. Instead, it dumps the new files in a different spot, the "Virtual Store" location mentioned in the article. It's anyone's guess at that point what file SH4 is going to get when it requests it.

So if there's a game that you're considering modding on Vista, make sure you install it somewhere other than "C:\Program Files". I'd suggest "C:\Games".

This probably isn't the problem that the original poster is having, though.

Yes, I know what you mean. There is a simple work around though. I use mods and JSGME. I needed to run JSGME as Administrator. Been a while, but I may have also needed to set permissions for the SH4 folder. Once done, no problems.

[Soundman]

Okay, I loaded the stock SH4 and no patches, it crashed right after the menu. I read previously that someone changed the video card settings from x4 to 16 but I am not sure what that means. SH3 runs fine no issues. I installed the SH4 game outside the program files.

There are two things you should try, as stated avove. Put n the install disk and install DX 9 Codecs. This is a must and many people with DX 10, omitt this, but it IS required. If that does not fix the problem, run the .exe (icon) as administrator. If these don't work, you need to post more info. Do you see a load screen? Do you get any error messages? Any info will aid someone trying to help.

[Larry U-136]

Yes on trying all of that, and yes I get the load screen but it crashes as soon as or a little bit after the game begins to run. Could it be the CODECS that it asks for in the begining? I load everything except ADOBE becasue I have the latest version

[Larry U-136]

The hell with it.....going back to SH3..this is frustrating...but i thank you all....

[Larry U-136]

The hell with it.....going back to SH3..this is frustrating...but i thank you all....:down:

[Larry U-136]

The hell with it.....going back to SH3..this is frustrating...but i thank you all....:down:

[Elder-Pirate]

Good ole XP which is older and wiser and is proven each day. There are still a lot of New XP computers being sold. Ole Bill sure knows how to scoop up the money doesn't he.

[Larry U-136]

Sorry about the redundant posts...still working on the problem..could be the video card ATI Radeon 512MB

[Soundman]

Drivers updated ?

[irish1958]

What I would do is uninstall SHIV, clean your registry, delete the SH4 folder in your documents. Update your video drivers and consider Omega drivers. then
Reinstall in c:\games
If you are running SH3, you have the correct codices on your computer; nevertheless, when the install program asks to install them, do so.
You should be able to play this game with your machine without any problems

[Larry U-136]

Tried it...no dice

[Larry U-136]

Okay apparently I have p someone off... I apologize

[AVGWarhawk]

Okay apparently I have p someone off... I apologize

No you have not! Just out of ideas for you. Except me:D OK, I run SH4 on the Vista 64 OS. First, where did you load the game on the hard drive? X86 program files? If so, uninstall it from there and keep your games out of these program files (some games will not let you, such as COD WaW). Go to My Documents and remove the SH4 folder there. Clean up the registry if you have a cleaner. If not, should not matter. I'm just anal about that:shifty: Now, create a root folder for all your games you want to install. I named mine GAMES2 (there is already a GAMES folder MS created so I named mine GAMES2). Insert your SH4 disc to install. When prompted to where to load the game click Browse and find your newly created GAMES2 fold. Select, click OK and let it install to this new folder. The reason you do this because loading the game into X86 creates issues when loading mods there to activate with JSGME. It make for a bunch of errors. Once installation is complete you are just about ready. Now, go to your video card program and reset you video card to all default straight out of the box values. Should be a one button operation to do this. Make notes on your preferred settings so you can change them back later. Fire up SH4. It should load right up. Close out the game and go back to your vid card program and set it up the way you like. Go play the game. It should not crash. After following the steps I outlined and it still crashes, then we look elsewhere for the cause of the crashing. First, do what worked for me and then we go from there.

[Larry U-136]

I will give it a try. Thank you!:yeah: