Jutland by Sofware Sorcery

[Jig]

THis is a WW1 Naval combat simulation. It's at least 10 years old but I have yet to see anything similar since come out.. Great sound and I wish I could get it to play on xp :(

[Sonarman]

I remember that one, that was one of if not indeed the first game to ever come out on CD-ROM. Software Sorcery went on to release the rather dire "Aegis: Guardian of the fleet" and then the actually quite good subsim "Fast Attack" under the publisher Sierra.

The company were then to release two further naval sims "Greyhounds of the Sea" a WW1 strategy/sim and "Akula Red Hunter" obviously a subsim. However the company went belly up before it could release those titles.

Commander James R Jones the CEO of Software Sorcery turned up again about three-four years ago with the online naval game "Joint Chiefs online". (http://www.mpogd.com/news/?ID=1572)I think Neal posted a short blurb about it on one of the old forums. Since then nothing, not sure if anyone tried that game, unfortunately it also seems to have disappeared. Hopefully we haven't seen the last of Cmdr Jones yet.

Bes sure to look out for the forthcoming Jutland game from Storm Eagle Studios (http://www.stormeaglestudios.com/public/Html/se_Jutland.html) it's looking pretty good and promises to be a very deep strategy/sim currently it's in beta so should be with us in a few months.

[Raptor1]

Bes sure to look out for the forthcoming Jutland game from Storm Eagle Studios (http://www.stormeaglestudios.com/public/Html/se_Jutland.html) it's looking pretty good and promises to be a very deep strategy/sim currently it's in beta so should be with us in a few months.

I'm still sticking to my May 31st release prediction (The anniversary for the actual Battle of Jutland), Because their website still says it's a "Spring 2008" release, So not a few months, But weeks

Has anyone heard of an older game called "Dreadnoughts"? Is it any good?

[Sonarman]

On Jutland

Yes, hopefully it will make the anniversary, although they are still adding new features... to quote developer Jim Rose:
"Deep in the Campaign Game, Another layer of AI, More Light Houses, More Light Ships, Zeppelin scouting' Lots of new neat things........Good food takes time to prepare

check out what's happening at the semi-official gamesquad forum (http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=245) for the series.


On Dreadnoughts...


Has anyone heard of an older game called "Dreadnoughts"? Is it any good?

Dreadnoughts was a very good MS-DOS title by Dr Peter Turcan who developed some of the first 3d wargames such as Waterloo,Borodino and Armada on the Atari ST, Amiga & PC. The games would show a 3d picture view of the battlefield and you would type commands in then advance time by a certain period to see how your actions played out. The game originally shipped with cool laminated charts so that you could plot your ships positions yourself, the post patch game saw the plots integrated into the game itself.

Dreadnoughts started out in this typing manner but was upgraded to have mouse input of commands a big improvement. The level of commands in the game gave it a very realistic feel. Two addon data discs "Ironclads" & "Bismarck" were released for the game. Dr Turcan also went on to release a futher naval game "Midway" using the same system.

You can check out a 90% Amiga review for the game here (http://amr.abime.net/review_6208)


Another Jutland alternative

There is of course yet another Jutland game this time by John Tiller who did the first Age of Sail game for Talonsoft. It's less visual than those above yet, relying on a 2D top down viewpoint of the action, still worth a look check it out over at the HPS Simulations site (http://www.hpssims.com/pages/Products/NavCamp/Jutland/jutland.html) note that if you want this you can find it cheaper than HPS sell it for, shop around!

[Raptor1]

Just played Dreadnoughts, Ouch, Gonne take a while 'till I get used to this...

Anyway, Does anyone know if it's still possible to get Software Sorcery's Jutland anywhere?

[Sonarman]

Ebay would be the place to try for Jutland, although I would caution that it's definitely not a great game, no where near as good as say Task Force 1942 and is really only for the naval-game completist (like me unfortunately). The game does run happily under DOSBox however I have been unable to get sound effects although the music track does play.

[Raptor1]

Ebay would be the place to try for Jutland, although I would caution that it's definitely not a great game and really only for the naval-game completist (like me unfortunately).
Think ill pass...

Can't wait for SES' Jutland though, Even if it is going to be expensive like Distant Guns

[Jig]

I'd have to disagree on it not being a great game. If I could get the sound to work, I'd play it. I recall the sound needed the sound card to have an IRQ jumper set on a certain one, ( it's that old SB32 ) Awesome sound on a home theater. Damage control teams, and excellant combat..

Here's the one problem I had with it , no save feature,,, could only pause the game. The battle of Jutland once took me over 20 hours of play, and I won, once. I still have the cd but haven't tried to get it to work for awhile.

[bradclark1]

Ebay would be the place to try for Jutland,
You can get it on Amazon for $2.70.
http://www.amazon.com/Jutland/dp/B0009HFSCO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1210865882&sr=1-2

[Julian]

I have this game also.
The graphics were great and the sound of gunfire was better than what I heard.
But the game had its flaws.

The problem was maintaining the ship on its course.
After setting orders in the command screen, you left the screen to fire the guns, then the steering would default to port.
The ship would start to turn and the gunnery would be thrown off.
Then you had to try to steer the ship from gun position.
This was one problem the company never fixed.
Not long after the games release, Software Sorcery closed up.
And the game bugs were never fixed.
Other wise, it would have been a great naval game to play.
The sound, music and graphics were superb for that time.

[Seeadler]

I remember that one, that was one of if not indeed the first game to ever come out on CD-ROM. If I remember right, Rebel Assault came first but Jutland was one of the first CD only games.

I can run Jutland today on Vista64 with a DOS emulator:up:
Here some screens:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1152_3039646233623865.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/400_6530333961323233.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1152_3566313234633238.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1152_3432376434633161.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1152_6233396335366539.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1152_6338323931643333.jpg
repair crew management similar to SH3/4 ;)
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1152_6538396661626261.jpg

[Julian]

What DOS EMULATOR did you use to run Jutland?
How did you install it?

I have quite a few DOS games like Jutland, GNBNA- Great Naval Battles North Atlantic 1939 - 1943, Wolfpack CD, Aces of the Deep, Aces of the Pacific are just a few.

[Seeadler]

What DOS EMULATOR did you use to run Jutland?
DOS box
http://www.dosbox.com/
with front-end DFend_reloaded
Edited by RDP, link to abandonware on that site listed. You may
have not seen this Seeadler

(http://dfendreloaded.sourceforge.net/)

[Schnee]

If this thing comes out in the near future , it could be just what I was looking for. I'm a big fan of surface action/battleship-counter type sims (and find WWI intriguing) so this could be super cool.

One can only play so many sub sims:arrgh!:

[Julian]

I agree there are too many focuses on subsim and aircraft games but very little in naval action.
Battlestations Midway still remains my favourite game at present moment.
It has some very interesting naval action that I keep going back to.
The results are always different but enjoyable to play.
Be glad when they come up with the update Battlestations Pacific later this year.
AND hopefully, after this, another game called, Battlestations Atlantic. This would be great for some naval action between the German and British navies. See what the future brings.

Another game I got is Fighting Steel. This is a Windows 95 game on CD, that can be played on Windows XP. This has good naval action set in World War 2 between Germany and Britain. You can play either side. It has some scenerios like Graf Spee, Bismarck.

Enigma Rising Tide is another good naval game. They got an update coming out possibly tomorrow - an add-on mission which should make the game more playable.

[Raptor1]

Enigma Rising Tide is fun, I liked it's Alternate History storyline and it's gameplay overall, but it still focuses on the Submarine/ASW thing, also, Isn't Hotel da Volta coming out in June?

Unfortunatly I have no idea how to get my hands on some of the good old Naval Games (Fighting Steel and Jutland, For instance)

[yankee-V]

I have this game also.
The graphics were great and the sound of gunfire was better than what I heard.
But the game had its flaws.

The problem was maintaining the ship on its course.
After setting orders in the command screen, you left the screen to fire the guns, then the steering would default to port.
The ship would start to turn and the gunnery would be thrown off.
Then you had to try to steer the ship from gun position.
This was one problem the company never fixed.
Not long after the games release, Software Sorcery closed up.
And the game bugs were never fixed.
Other wise, it would have been a great naval game to play.
The sound, music and graphics were superb for that time.

If memory serves, the time compression feature had problems too, at least I never got it to work right. Kind of hard to play a campaign at 1X.

Still have the CD on the shelf. The DB of all the old photos and films was one of the best features.

[GerritJ9]

Found a Russian site that lists some items for Software Sorcery's Jutland, including a no-CD patch/crack and a patch (update?). Wonder whether the patch is an unofficial one developed by an enthusiast, or an official SS Jutland patch, lost in the mists of time..... and what it does- correct bugs, add content, improve graphics, mod it to run under Windows??????????
May be worth further investigation!

[Julian]

Can you sent me the link to that Russian site that lists some items for Software Sorcery's Jutland?

Sounds interesting.

Would like to check it out.

[GerritJ9]

Julian, PM sent!

[GerritJ9]

Just checked my Jutland CD and the label says "Version 1.1", so it would seem that SS released at least one official updated version. Does anybody have a later version?????

[fabry5005]

Hi, i have the cd of jutland but i have problems with the game, in dosbox i can install it and run it but there's no sound, when i exit a message say sound drivers unloaded, i try lot of things on the conf of dosbox but nothing.. with vdmsound instead i can't even run it because it say XA non compatible. I want the music of this game!!! What can i do?

[GerritJ9]

You're ahead of me, at least you got it to run in Dosbox........... so far, I haven't :(

By the way, I finally translated part of that Russian website, unfortunately clicking on the links to the no-CD patch and other items merely results in a text appearing that the item does not exist- bummer! I suppose they were put up in case those items were eventually found or made by an enthusiast. So it looks like we're stuck with Version 1.1 at best. Does any Bright Spark know how to get it to run on Windows????????

[fabry5005]

If you want to run with dosbox make this...

mount c c:\

mount d (letter of cd):\ -t cdrom

then go to the cdrom make install and then in c: run jutland, the game works but no sound, please let's fix this thing together, i desperatly want the musics of this game, i want to make some mp3.

[GerritJ9]

I am beginning to suspect that in order to get the sounds to work, a DOS driver is needed for the sound card/sound chip, to be installed in DOSBox. As DOS drivers are no longer being released for newer hardware, we may well be forced to obtain an old computer for which DOS drivers are still available, and install DOS, the relevant drivers and Jutland on it (or alternatively, Windows 95/98/ME plus relevant drivers).

[NeonSamurai]

Are you sure you just didn't properly configure the game for dosbox's sound settings? Also if the music is contained on the cd like a music cd then it may not be able to play it properly.

http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Sound