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Syxx_Killer
02-20-09, 09:44 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_speeding_ticket137

Wow. I wouldn't think a '93 Civic could get up that fast anymore. I sure wouldn't want to push such a small, old car so hard! :o

AVGWarhawk
02-20-09, 10:02 AM
My guess is the vehicle owner did a bit of massaging under the hood. Some of the little cars and tiny motors can generate 500 hp with the right equipment bolted on. Tinted windows? I'm guessing he did some suspension work as well:hmmm: I wonder how the cop caught up with the guy. At that rate of speed he would have disappeared into the distance in a flash. Then again, you can not out drive the cops radio.

SteamWake
02-20-09, 10:40 AM
I recently read about a driver getting out of a ticket when he was ticketed for driving over 95mph by a traffic cam.

The man took the car to a certified mechanic/race car driver whom took it to a race course and proved the car couldent go any faster than 85 mph.

Case dismessed :cool:

AVGWarhawk
02-20-09, 10:54 AM
Always challenge the radar gun and when it was last certified.:up:

gandalf71
02-20-09, 11:07 AM
137mph, whatīs the big deal?

Those VTEC Hondas from the early 90īs where tiny little beasts and fast like hell, as long you kept them revving more than 5500 rpm. In Europe an 1991 CRX (EE8) was specified with 222 kph and the 1992 Civic VTEC (EG6) still maxed and 215 kph, so I think this car was not modified at the engine at all.

Cheers,
Michael

AVGWarhawk
02-20-09, 11:35 AM
137mph, whatīs the big deal?

Those VTEC Hondas from the early 90īs where tiny little beasts and fast like hell, as long you kept them revving more than 5500 rpm. In Europe an 1991 CRX (EE8) was specified with 222 kph and the 1992 Civic VTEC (EG6) still maxed and 215 kph, so I think this car was not modified at the engine at all.

Cheers,
Michael
I beg to differ. I think the Civic in 93 would cut the fuel electronically at 114 MPH. This is US version of course. I was searching around and the Del Sol mustered about 125. Funny, other forums about Hondas are arguing the speed as well from a stock Civic!

Schroeder
02-20-09, 12:02 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_speeding_ticket137

Wow. I wouldn't think a '93 Civic could get up that fast anymore. I sure wouldn't want to push such a small, old car so hard! :o
Well my car is from '92 and can still run faster than it's supposed top speed. ;)

Although I don't push it there often.

Happy Times
02-20-09, 12:03 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_speeding_ticket137

Wow. I wouldn't think a '93 Civic could get up that fast anymore. I sure wouldn't want to push such a small, old car so hard! :o
Well my car is from '92 and can still run faster than it's supposed top speed. ;)

Although I don't push it there often.

BMW?

Spike88
02-20-09, 12:48 PM
I've taken a 02 Mazda MPV(the mini van) up to 115. So I can see a Civic doing 137. Especially since it sounds like he has a ricer. I would not doubt that he has NOS in there.

At AVGWarhawk: The standard Crown Vic police cars top out at 130ish. So they could catch up. Unless the road was empty, the Civic would have to slow down at times to weave through traffic which would help the officer fill in the gaps. Although him being able to radio in for cars up ahead was probably what caught the dude in the civic.

I'm surprised the driver of the civic did not get arrested.

Etienne
02-20-09, 12:51 PM
In the early 2000's, I was riding on a dark and twisty country road in a '89 Honda Civic. The driver managed to push it to 150km/h, with peak at 175 km/h. (90-110 mph)

Yeah, I thought the whole thing was gonna fall appart. I feared for my life.

I don't think the car had been modified, but the driver's father was a mechanic, so you never know. The car was in great shape, anyhow.

She still calls me a pussy to this day. I still call her a maniac.

Spike88
02-20-09, 01:08 PM
In the early 2000's, I was riding on a dark and twisty country road in a '89 Honda Civic. The driver managed to push it to 150km/h, with peak at 175 km/h. (90-110 mph)

Yeah, I thought the whole thing was gonna fall appart. I feared for my life.

I don't think the car had been modified, but the driver's father was a mechanic, so you never know. The car was in great shape, anyhow.

She still calls me a pussy to this day. I still call her a maniac.

From the sound of it she does sound like a maniac. Was it a paved road? When I visit my grandparents who live in Northern Florida, the roads are unpaved and they twist around sink holes. I could imagine doing 110 on those roads just to see a deer run out in front of your car, forcing you to swerve into a sink hole. :rotfl:

Schroeder
02-20-09, 01:10 PM
BMW?

Mazda 323f:salute:

gandalf71
02-20-09, 01:22 PM
I beg to differ. I think the Civic in 93 would cut the fuel electronically at 114 MPH. This is US version of course. I was searching around and the Del Sol mustered about 125. Funny, other forums about Hondas are arguing the speed as well from a stock Civic!

Hmm

Maybe thereīs a major difference between Europe and US Spec cars but as you can see in the spec sheet below (itīs in German but the numbers are quite self explanatory I think) the 92-95 model with 1.6 VTi engine has a specified topspeed of 133.5 MPH, so 137 may well be in the field of tolerance.

http://www.maxrev.de/civic-1-6-vti-hatchback-eg6-m39.htm

br
Michael

AVGWarhawk
02-20-09, 01:42 PM
I beg to differ. I think the Civic in 93 would cut the fuel electronically at 114 MPH. This is US version of course. I was searching around and the Del Sol mustered about 125. Funny, other forums about Hondas are arguing the speed as well from a stock Civic!
Hmm

Maybe thereīs a major difference between Europe and US Spec cars but as you can see in the spec sheet below (itīs in German but the numbers are quite self explanatory I think) the 92-95 model with 1.6 VTi engine has a specified topspeed of 133.5 MPH, so 137 may well be in the field of tolerance.

http://www.maxrev.de/civic-1-6-vti-hatchback-eg6-m39.htm

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Michael

There is differences and specifically in emissions controls that weight down and slow down American versions. California has even tighter restrictions and different emission controls set up than the rest of the US. Back then they had air pumps running off the motor that fed air to the catalytic converters to help burn off unburnt fuel. Just something else dragging the motors down. These engines can hit the higher speeds but often restricted above 115 MPH by the on board computers that will either retard the timing or reduce fuel. Basically a cut off so we do not kill ourselves. You know what though. Most cars can go 100 MPH. However, if you can do 100 MPH between stop lights....then you got something. :D

Jimbuna
02-20-09, 04:05 PM
I beg to differ. I think the Civic in 93 would cut the fuel electronically at 114 MPH. This is US version of course. I was searching around and the Del Sol mustered about 125. Funny, other forums about Hondas are arguing the speed as well from a stock Civic!

Hmm

Maybe thereīs a major difference between Europe and US Spec cars but as you can see in the spec sheet below (itīs in German but the numbers are quite self explanatory I think) the 92-95 model with 1.6 VTi engine has a specified topspeed of 133.5 MPH, so 137 may well be in the field of tolerance.

http://www.maxrev.de/civic-1-6-vti-hatchback-eg6-m39.htm

br
Michael

Quite correct....but the question it begs is: How safe is it or anyone in the vicinity when it is travelling at such an extreme speed.

sunvalleyslim
02-20-09, 04:15 PM
Always challenge the radar gun and when it was last certified.:up:

Never lost a case involving a defendant challenging the radar certification. A good traffic cop comes to court with his radar certification, street survey conducted with the last 5 years, his schooling and expertise in radar enforcement. I shot radar from the mid 70's to 2005 in Los Angeles. When you testify hundreds of times you know what to testify to and have heard all the excuses and reasons why it wasn't them. And believe me if I had a doubt, I didn't sign up the violator. They were too easy to catch..............Now maybe if you're in some podunk town you might find some police officer who just might not put much effort in to his testimony..........:DL :DL :DL

Jimbuna
02-20-09, 04:32 PM
Always challenge the radar gun and when it was last certified.:up:

Never lost a case involving a defendant challenging the radar certification. A good traffic cop comes to court with his radar certification, street survey conducted with the last 5 years, his schooling and expertise in radar enforcement. I shot radar from the mid 70's to 2005 in Los Angeles. When you testify hundreds of times you know what to testify to and have heard all the excuses and reasons why it wasn't them. And believe me if I had a doubt, I didn't sign up the violator. They were too easy to catch..............Now maybe if you're in some podunk town you might find some police officer who just might not put much effort in to his testimony..........:DL :DL :DL

More chance of winning the lottery in successive weeks I should imagine. :DL

AVGWarhawk
02-20-09, 04:38 PM
I always challenge the radar gun...it is a last ditch effort:wah:

longam
02-20-09, 04:44 PM
If they only knew what a tire does a high speed would they still be so brave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llLw3PpFzxE&NR=1

Spike88
02-20-09, 06:29 PM
I always challenge the radar gun...it is a last ditch effort:wah:

I know someone who had a right to challenge the radar gun. The officer said that he clocked her through another car. Which would be impossible since the radar would bounce off the first car.

Dan D
02-20-09, 07:47 PM
Always challenge the radar gun and when it was last certified.:up:

Never lost a case involving a defendant challenging the radar certification. A good traffic cop comes to court with his radar certification, street survey conducted with the last 5 years, his schooling and expertise in radar enforcement. I shot radar from the mid 70's to 2005 in Los Angeles. When you testify hundreds of times you know what to testify to and have heard all the excuses and reasons why it wasn't them. And believe me if I had a doubt, I didn't sign up the violator. They were too easy to catch..............Now maybe if you're in some podunk town you might find some police officer who just might not put much effort in to his testimony..........:DL :DL :DL

More chance of winning the lottery in successive weeks I should imagine. :DL

Hey there, I am from the other side of the fence. I agree mostly. To win a case involving a defendant challlening the radar certification is very rare. But it does happen. There are folks who say: " I want to keep my driving license, no matter what it does cost". Under such circumstances you would ask the authorities amongst other things to show you the " life certificate" of the speed camera. The technical equipment needs to be checked from time to time and gets a new calibration seal. Now, if the technical check is overdue or the "life certificate" reveals that the speed camera had to be repared soon afterwards, you have good chances to win the case, because of course it can happen that speed cameras don't work as they should. When this happens, this likely means, all the 300 speed tickets on day x on the autobahn y were wrong. Then you can say, 299 people paid for a speed ticket when they should not have to.

I don't blame the brave policemen ,to whom I tip my hat , for being let loose with ****ty equipment when such things happen, but they do happen and therefore it can't be wrong to take a control sample from time to time especially when it is sponsored by people who can afford it.

SUBMAN1
02-20-09, 07:52 PM
Not sure where my machine tops out. Gave up after pushing past the 145 MPH mark and still rising nicely. Don't feel like going to jail and in that realm, jail is guaranteed.

-S

Etienne
02-20-09, 10:26 PM
From the sound of it she does sound like a maniac. Was it a paved road? When I visit my grandparents who live in Northern Florida, the roads are unpaved and they twist around sink holes. I could imagine doing 110 on those roads just to see a deer run out in front of your car, forcing you to swerve into a sink hole. :rotfl:

I think I used the wrong words when I said country road - It's paved (But in bad shape), and it's essentially a step under a highway. With houses bordering it and so on... Althought the exact place where she decided to hold the speed trial was bordered by woods on one side, and the river on the other.

And I shouldn't say she's such a maniac; when she's not driving home from college, she's pretty normal. Mostly.

Spike88
02-20-09, 11:39 PM
Not sure where my machine tops out. Gave up after pushing past the 145 MPH mark and still rising nicely. Don't feel like going to jail and in that realm, jail is guaranteed.

-S It depends on the officer really. Most will arrest you and tow your car at those speeds but some will only give you a ticket. Especially if they've been working a double shift and really just want to get home. When you arrest someone you have to drive them all the way to the prison, which may be in the opposite direction of your house, and do all the paper work.

Pioneer
02-21-09, 12:33 AM
The story doesn't identify how it was clocked but it could have been handheld, slant, mobile or laser radar, which would allow the intercepting officer to position in advance.

Always challenge the radar gun and when it was last certified.:up:
Never lost a case involving a defendant challenging the radar certification. A good traffic cop comes to court with his radar certification, street survey conducted with the last 5 years, his schooling and expertise in radar enforcement. I shot radar from the mid 70's to 2005 in Los Angeles. When you testify hundreds of times you know what to testify to and have heard all the excuses and reasons why it wasn't them. And believe me if I had a doubt, I didn't sign up the violator. They were too easy to catch..............Now maybe if you're in some podunk town you might find some police officer who just might not put much effort in to his testimony..........:DL :DL :DL
Fabulous to see more of the "Thin Blue Line". I also shot radar from 87 over my home state without a loss. Cept for the three I lost to "Legacy." :cry:

Spike88
02-21-09, 12:36 AM
The story doesn't identify how it was clocked but it could have been handheld, slant, mobile or laser radar, which would allow the intercepting officer to position in advance.

Always challenge the radar gun and when it was last certified.:up:
Never lost a case involving a defendant challenging the radar certification. A good traffic cop comes to court with his radar certification, street survey conducted with the last 5 years, his schooling and expertise in radar enforcement. I shot radar from the mid 70's to 2005 in Los Angeles. When you testify hundreds of times you know what to testify to and have heard all the excuses and reasons why it wasn't them. And believe me if I had a doubt, I didn't sign up the violator. They were too easy to catch..............Now maybe if you're in some podunk town you might find some police officer who just might not put much effort in to his testimony..........:DL :DL :DL
Fabulous to see more of the "Thin Blue Line". I also shot radar from 87 over my home state without a loss. Cept for the three I lost to "Legacy." :cry:
Legacy?

I-25
02-21-09, 04:17 AM
iv had a beefed up 73 VW bug up to 130+ MPH, dont know the exact speed because the speed'o goes up to 100 and the needle went right past it and was just jumping on the back of that little pin the needle rests on at zero:o felt like "Warp speed mr zulu!"

Hitman
02-21-09, 07:48 AM
No idea about the US version, but the EU Civic from the early 90s had an VTI version with 160 bhp at 7500 rpm and a top speed well above 137 mph. May be this one was EU imported or tuned with EU parts (A frequent practice in the US as far as I have seen) :hmmm:

Jimbuna
02-21-09, 07:56 AM
Were these the guys that caught you? :DL

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6412/policehardatwork.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

AngusJS
02-21-09, 08:12 AM
Cops clock man driving 137 mph in a '93 Honda Civic
Here is yet another example of police brutality, and you people don't even care. :nope:




:D

Hitman
02-21-09, 08:15 AM
Here is yet another example of police brutality, and you people don't even care. :nope:


:har:

:up:

Kapt Z
02-21-09, 09:47 AM
My guess is the vehicle owner did a bit of massaging under the hood. Some of the little cars and tiny motors can generate 500 hp with the right equipment bolted on. Tinted windows? I'm guessing he did some suspension work as well:hmmm: I wonder how the cop caught up with the guy. At that rate of speed he would have disappeared into the distance in a flash. Then again, you can not out drive the cops radio.

I'd say 'tuner' as well.

Pioneer
02-21-09, 10:41 AM
Legacy?

Legacy. (http://www.police.qld.gov.au/services/newsletters/nhw/2006/autumn/legacyLendsHelpingHand.htm)

Platapus
02-21-09, 03:01 PM
Cops clock man driving 137 mph in a '93 Honda Civic
Here is yet another example of police brutality, and you people don't even care. :nope:




:D


Took me a second to get this. :88)
:yeah:

sunvalleyslim
02-21-09, 07:50 PM
Cops clock man driving 137 mph in a '93 Honda Civic
Here is yet another example of police brutality, and you people don't even care. :nope:




:D


Took me a second to get this. :88)
:yeah:

Ditto...............Made me laugh:DL :DL :DL

SUBMAN1
02-21-09, 09:18 PM
Not sure where my machine tops out. Gave up after pushing past the 145 MPH mark and still rising nicely. Don't feel like going to jail and in that realm, jail is guaranteed.

-S It depends on the officer really. Most will arrest you and tow your car at those speeds but some will only give you a ticket. Especially if they've been working a double shift and really just want to get home. When you arrest someone you have to drive them all the way to the prison, which may be in the opposite direction of your house, and do all the paper work.

Gee, that's a real help! It depends on the officer! Sorry, but most would simply call for backup to take you away. :DL

-S

Dan D
02-21-09, 09:58 PM
Cops clock man driving 137 mph in a '93 Honda Civic
Here is yet another example of police brutality, and you people don't even care.

"State police have ticketed an upstate New York man for driving more than twice the 65-mph speed limit on an interstate highway."

Driving "more than twice the speed limit" over here, then you can say bye-bye to your driving-license. It is probably the same at your place. But if the calibration of the speeding camera is overdue, this would would mean that the measured speed will be narrowed down by let's say 10-20 % to correct the possible error, no? Could make a big difference, you keep your driving-license.

Could be gold to "challenge the radar gun". I like the idea.

nikimcbee
02-22-09, 01:25 AM
That's why I have a metox on my car that works great.:rock:

I-25
02-22-09, 04:53 AM
That's why I have a metox on my car that works great.:rock:
i hear they got a new centrimetric radar, you should probably get a Naxos:hmmm:

Jimbuna
02-22-09, 07:59 AM
That's why I have a metox on my car that works great.:rock:
i hear they got a new centrimetric radar, you should probably get a Naxos:hmmm:

LOL :DL

nikimcbee
02-23-09, 02:53 AM
That's why I have a metox on my car that works great.:rock:
i hear they got a new centrimetric radar, you should probably get a Naxos:hmmm:

does it detect laser?:haha: