Obama approves aerospace systems for a state sponsor of terror

[Sea Demon]

Here we go again.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2009/ss_syria0140_02_17.asp

Vigilance is needed the next four years. The Obama administration has approved aviation systems for Syria. This is an unneeded transfer. Here again comes an administration who is ready to give away technology, dual use systems, and materials to questionable regimes, and potential military foes. More Democrat treachery. :nope:

[mookiemookie]

World Tribune, eh? I suppose you believe the "bat boy" from the Weekly World News is real too.

[Sea Demon]

World Tribune, eh? I suppose you believe the "bat boy" from the Weekly World News is real too.

This is also reported here:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/02/15/news/ML-Syria-US.php

And here:

http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=24282

It is also relatively recent. This does deserve a followup to determine the extent of it. But I wouldn't exactly expect NBC to make this a headlining topic. I'll be watching Boeing to see what's going on here. Multiple sources, and specific organizations and companies named tell me there is some validity to this. Don't worry, it will be watched.

[Onkel Neal]

I've always approved selling high tech US areospace tech to enemy regimes. Little known is the "bushwhack" chip. You know, that little addition circuit that can be triggered by the Pentagon at any time and forcibly ejects the pilot and overrevs the engines until the explode...

[MothBalls]

Little known is the "bushwhack" chip. You know, that little addition circuit that can be triggered by the Pentagon at any time and forcibly ejects the pilot and overrevs the engines until the explode...

Anyone know where I can buy one of these chips? My ex-wife's car is making a funny noise and I could offer to fix it....

[antikristuseke]

Wouldnt it be an easyer "fix" if you hooked up an electric blasting cap to the ignition and surrounded said blasting cap with a kilo or ten of high explocive of your choise?:arrgh!:

Not that I would do such a thing...

[Fr8monkey]

I wonder if you were complaining when Bush approved the sale of US Ports to Dubai

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-02-15-dubai_x.htm

Depite Them funding Osama bin Laden:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20010929/ai_n14414433

[August]

I wonder if you were complaining when Bush approved the sale of US Ports to Dubai

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-02-15-dubai_x.htm

Depite Them funding Osama bin Laden:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20010929/ai_n14414433

Actually there was a lot of complaining about it on this board at the time from both sides of the political spectrum. If you weren't such a noob you'd know that.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

*pulls up a chair*

Right, now that we're all calm, do continue.

[Fr8monkey]

Damn! New I should have signed up at Subsim Before I got Silent Hunter to debate this. :yeah:

[Tribesman]

Damn! New I should have signed up at Subsim Before I got Silent Hunter to debate this
Why didn't you focus on the nonsense written .
Like ....Here again comes an administration who is ready to give away technology, dual use systems, and materials to questionable regimes, and potential military foes. More Democrat treachery.
Them damn democrats have been supplying questionable regimes and potential enemies like Saudi and Pakistan for years now , you really shouldn't have re-elected them for yet another term of the same treachery . I thought you would have learnt your electoral lesson after that wussy liberal Democrat Reagan gave the crazy Iranian Mullahs piles of missiles

[Platapus]

Tribesman

You need to get your history right :D

The United States only gives/sells weapons to Freedom Fighters

Other countries give/sell weapons to Terrorists
:haha:

[Enigma]

F-16's to Pakistan.....Just to pile on...:88)

[Tribesman]

The United States only gives/sells weapons to Freedom Fighters

Other countries give/sell weapons to Terrorists

Of course , because if America supported terrorists it would be a State sponsor of terrorism and then SeaDemon would have to start a topic moaning about it .:D

[Sea Demon]

The United States only gives/sells weapons to Freedom Fighters

Other countries give/sell weapons to Terrorists
Of course , because if America supported terrorists it would be a State sponsor of terrorism and then SeaDemon would have to start a topic moaning about it .:D

Nope. There is actually quite a whole lot of difference between some of the items above, and Clinton's wholesale giveaway of space related dual use systems, and Obama supplying a direct terrorist nation with aerospace components after the fact that they had shipped weapons directly to Hamas terrorists in Gaza.

And yes, I did complain loudly when the Dubai ports stuff came up. And no, I don't support the militarization of Saudi Arabia (the land of Wahhabism) and Pakistan. Although geostrategically, I do understand why the US maintains those relations. This Syrian transfer does not directly benefit the USA in anyway. The USA gains nothing in the exchange, yet the danger of the transfer is high.

[Tribesman]

By Sea Demon
Quote ...loads of bollocks
Well done :yeah:
So Demon would you like to deal with support of Hamas or Hezb'Allah ?
What about the martyrs brigade or the peoples mujahadeen ?
How about the soldiers of the pure or the gatherers of the pure?
(OK that last one is an invention about the gatherers of excrement for the leather industry in Discworld...but hey with all the other fruitbats they have supported I am sure the fictional excrement collecters could get a look in from the "geosrategically" understanding) .
Or alternatively if you didn't want to just rip the piss of out ignorance.......what have been the recent deals since 9/11 between Syria and the Bush administration?
Then again that might be viewed as ripping the piss out of the ignorant .
But to avoid controvrersy as I don't really want to offend those who don't think much ....what was Syrias role with America in the war on terror?

[Sea Demon]

By Sea Demon
Or alternatively if you didn't want to just rip the piss of out ignorance.......what have been the recent deals since 9/11 between Syria and the Bush administration?
Then again that might be viewed as ripping the piss out of the ignorant .
But to avoid controvrersy as I don't really want to offend those who don't think much ....what was Syrias role with America in the war on terror?
Very cautious in approach. There has been some food aid offered, and very cautious outreach offered. But no serious military offerings were given AFAIK. Syria has been cautious in reverse and has made several low profile gestures of so-called diplomatic "goodwill" as they did not want to become a target in the crosshairs of the War on Terror initiated by Bush. As they have been known to be open supporters of terrorist organizations in money and weapons. Of course changing the tone ala Obama to open appeasement may have a very adverse effect. That is what this does. And that's why it's so dangerous. Especially since the Obama administration has been very lukewarm and ambiguous in regards to Isreali security as well.

[Aramike]

Or alternatively if you didn't want to just rip the piss of out ignorance.......what have been the recent deals since 9/11 between Syria and the Bush administration? Why can't liberals ever discuss an issue at face value?

What Bush did (even though regarding Syria it wasn't much) is irrelevant.

[Tribesman]

Very cautious in approach. There has been some food aid offered
Bloody hell , where have you been ?
Ever since they backed the second gulf war they have been on the buddies list and whe then time came for dodgy shipments and torture they became happy ally #1 .

Yet now you are getting upset over spare parts for a 747 ? parts they could buy on the second hand market just like the Iranians do when they are not exchanging anti aircraft missiles for political favours.

[Sea Demon]

Very cautious in approach. There has been some food aid offered Bloody hell , where have you been ?
Ever since they backed the second gulf war they have been on the buddies list and whe then time came for dodgy shipments and torture they became happy ally #1 .

Yet now you are getting upset over spare parts for a 747 ? parts they could buy on the second hand market just like the Iranians do when they are not exchanging anti aircraft missiles for political favours.
Weak argument. Back then, were we offering them dual use technologies that could be used to supply terrorists materials or aid? I think not. Sorry friend, you just can't quibble out of this.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Here we go again.

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2009/ss_syria0140_02_17.asp

Vigilance is needed the next four years. The Obama administration has approved aviation systems for Syria. This is an unneeded transfer. Here again comes an administration who is ready to give away technology, dual use systems, and materials to questionable regimes, and potential military foes. More Democrat treachery. :nope: Well, I can't get very worked up by them exporting components for TWO ageing civilian aircraft. I never really bought into that whole "dual-use" argument. Almost ANYTHING can be used militarily. Including food and medicine.