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[Iceman]

Ya know

Here on Subsim I go by the call sign Iceman because of the way in games I like to show no mercy....hence my nick...but in RL I am not like that at all and have a life beyond here....I recently joined this Facebook and find it really cool...so if any of my brothers in subsimming would like to look me up please do and maybe we can play some cards or get a Subsim card game of Texas Hold Em going...

Please look me up on there and let me know who you are in a short message.

Robin Hawkins
Phoenix/Mesa AZ
AKA Iceman

Good Day

[UnderseaLcpl]

Is facebook better than myspace?


Neal started a myspace thing a while back, some of us are already on there. Here's the link in case you missed it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=142327&highlight=friend

[GoldenRivet]

face book seems a little more college aged/adult oriented

Myspace seems a little teen/kid oriented

they both offer pretty much the same perks and options.

Im on both

[Skybird]

Some meditation over Facebook:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/14/facebook/print

Everybody is free to take this into account, or not.

[Kapt Z]

My wife always chided me about- "you on the computer again! Playing that submarine game? Don't you get tired of it?"

Then she signed up on Facebook to keep in touch with a high school friend......

I don't hear the chiding anymore and now we fight for computer time!

[GoldenRivet]

Some meditation over Facebook:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/14/facebook/print

Everybody is free to take this into account, or not.

Paranoia.

So why do I need a computer to connect with the people around me?

Easy - I have friends and family who live next door... Down the street... Across town

Even friends and family on the other side of the nation, even on the other side of the globe.

Outlets like facebook or myspace allow me to have an easy, free outlet for staying in touch with these people on a wide scale when other means of communication like phone calls, VOIP, snail mail or email are often narrowly focused, expensive or even inconvenient.

[Sailor Steve]

Howdy Robin. It's always nice to know people's real names, at least on a serious board like this one. I've never done FaceBook or MySpace before, as I spend all my internet time talking to folks here. I like the people here, for the most part, and enjoy our discussions; at least when they are discussions.

Thanks for the offer though. I just might change my feeble mine about it.

Steve Bradfield

[longam]

Windows live is bringing it all together with file storage and sharing.

http://download.live.com/?sku=messenger

[Dowly]

Howdy Robin. It's always nice to know people's real names, at least on a serious board like this one.

Teemu here.. yeh.. I know, prolly easier to just call me Dowly. :O::salute:

[Task Force]

As said by the mighty raptor1

Its overrated.:rotfl:

[Iceman]

Some meditation over Facebook:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/14/facebook/print

Everybody is free to take this into account, or not.

Thank you for this article...makes good points.

My name, address, etc etc is not a matter of national security..I still choose to drink Pepsi and Coke of my own free will....But ya I see where to much information is not a great thing in the hands of those who wish do do harm...good article.

[Iceman]

My wife always chided me about- "you on the computer again! Playing that submarine game? Don't you get tired of it?"

Then she signed up on Facebook to keep in touch with a high school friend......

I don't hear the chiding anymore and now we fight for computer time!

O yea I have been in contact now with people I have not seen since Kindergarden...pretty cool to see many of us still living in the same city. :up:

[Skybird]

Just to add some more to what somebody above called "paranoia".

http://www.welt.de/webwelt/article3215324/Facebook-sichert-sich-mehr-Rechte-an-Profilen.html

Summary:
Almost unnoticed and unopposed by the public, Facebook has changed its terms of rules with the beginning of February. They now have secured themselves the right to collect, use and sell any material, profile and personal information a user ever has entered there - even after the user has left facebook and deleted his account. It claims the right to do with this data whatever it wants.

Compromising material like photos, letters etc, that a user once had posted in a weak or drunken moment and then tried to leave behind by deleting them fro his account or shutting down his account - already are under control and posession by Facebook and could surface any time in the future in whatever context imaginable.

Two weeks ago the Telegraph reported that Facebook wants to collect profile data and data on personal habits and preferences to sell them to marketing and other business companies - against cash, of course.

Said a lawyer specialsed on internet laws: "Register and use Facebook, and you hand over your private sphere at the wardrobe."

Nice. I know why I refuse to use such "services". I also like the onesided, unannounced move to chnage such an important item of the terms of using. Still many people register and do not know what they are into and that they are giving up any rights over the private material they post - forever.

[Platapus]

I use my own version of facebook to interact with my friends

First I BOOK a reservation at a restaurant
Second I talk to my friend's FACE while I have lunch/dinner with them

Not a system that would work for everyone, but it works just fine for me.

To each his own. :yeah:

[antikristuseke]

It's always nice to know people's real names, at least on a serious board like this one.

Agreed Steve.

My name is Mats Tammisto, though some people call me kondor because my nose is the shape of the beak of a vulture :rotfl:

[GoldenRivet]

They now have secured themselves the right to collect, use and sell any material, profile and personal information a user ever has entered there - even after the user has left facebook and deleted his account. It claims the right to do with this data whatever it wants.
As some online companies have done since the creation of the internet... all that "free" screen saver crap someone signs up for - as an example - its free because they sell your information to marketing corporations.

Compromising material like photos, letters etc, that a user once had posted in a weak or drunken moment and then tried to leave behind by deleting them fro his account or shutting down his account - already are under control and posession by Facebook and could surface any time in the future in whatever context imaginable.

Peopel have to post this information responsibly... online information such as that posted on social sites has cost people their marriages, their jobs and even won or lost law suites... dont post anything on the internet that you wouldnt openly tell people you barely know. :88)

Two weeks ago the Telegraph reported that Facebook wants to collect profile data and data on personal habits and preferences to sell them to marketing and other business companies - against cash, of course.

"The telegraph" should get real if they think this is news worthy or note worthy in any way shape or form. Almost every company you give personal information to like phone numbers, addresses or e mail addresses sells these things for cash... thats how junk mail and spam show up in your mail box and on your e mail inbox. nothing new here... like i said. dont put out information you wouldnt readily share with a stranger, if these people are really your "friends" on myspace or facebook they already know your information.


Nice. I know why I refuse to use such "services". I also like the onesided, unannounced move to chnage such an important item of the terms of using. Still many people register and do not know what they are into and that they are giving up any rights over the private material they post - forever.

any choice you make to join an online social networking site... be it for personal or career reasons - you must make the decision after researching it and actually reading the terms of use before clicking "ok"

given a lot of people dont do that... but this concept of saving your personal information and then selling it for cash is as old as the hills.

you havnt discovered some new interesting thing here skybird.

if you dont want to be a part of facebook... thats cool... others may chose to be, but they should make the choice only after knowing what they are getting into.

1. never post pictures of yourself doing anything that could be considered "immoral" or "questionable" - like screwing a cat, or drinking alcohol / snorting cocaine in your company uniform is a good example.

2. never recount in a blog about how you screwed a cat, or drink alcohol and hooker spit at a pro choice rally in your work uniform.

3. never make information available that you wouldnt give to a stranger. keep it simple. name, and e mail address.

[UnderseaLcpl]

@ GoldenRivet

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :salute:

[Biggles]

It's always nice to know people's real names, at least on a serious board like this one.

Agreed Steve.

My name is Mats Tammisto, though some people call me kondor because my nose is the shape of the beak of a vulture :rotfl:

You think you've got problems?

My name is Olle (even that is odd), and some people call me "Frasse", God knows why...it means nothing!:timeout:

[UnderseaLcpl]

My real name is Sir Percival Prudence Phelpsmiller the 3rd. But ya'll can call me James, if you like.

[GoldenRivet]

My real name is Sir Percival Prudence Phelpsmiller the 3rd. But ya'll can call me James, if you like.

Mine is Sir Peter pap-smear the 8th... but you guys can call me "sticky"

[Sailor Steve]

I hope to see both of you again at the next meeting...and I don't mean that in a good way!
:rotfl:

[Carotio]

Well, in case any of you are at Facebook, then here's two groups for you.

Silent Hunter 3
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9794147925

Silent Hunter 4
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31991949166

[kiwi_2005]

Might just try out this facebook, i did a Bebo one yrs ago but agfter a week into it i never went back. Which is better as in secure Myspace or Facebook?

My REAL name is Frank Slavich. Yugoslavia - croatian/kiwi breed, both sides were warrors of there day. 'Nga puhi' tribe fierce warrors who faught the english back when the pommies came to NZ to take our land, in one battle after 11 days of fighting the Nga puhi leader held a truce sent runners over to the british side with baskets of food for them as he did not want to kill his enemy knowing they faught on empty stomachs - it wouldn't of been a fare fight. We lost. :har:

And on croatian side 600AD my ancestor was a king :smug: What happened is my guess the Dalmations as crazy as they are wiped the kingship title out.

So i come from two crazy bloods. :rock::shifty:

:)

[antikristuseke]

It's always nice to know people's real names, at least on a serious board like this one.

Agreed Steve.

My name is Mats Tammisto, though some people call me kondor because my nose is the shape of the beak of a vulture :rotfl:

You think you've got problems?

My name is Olle (even that is odd), and some people call me "Frasse", God knows why...it means nothing!:timeout:

My first name is a derogative term towards peasant:doh:
Not complaining though.

[Iceman]

I'm not realy sure which was sarcasim and which was seriousness..:o ..except for Skybird. :) Which I do appreciate Skybird....also thank u Carotio for the links to SH sites on there.

Nice to meet you Frank and Steve...again.

And Dowly is your name really Teemu?....are ya from Finland..?

and we all do know the real name Neal Stevens...at least I hope it's Neal so I don't sound like an azz when I greet him at the next Subsim meet. :88) ...or Captain Stevens if you prefer....I know everyone sometimes has a nickname in RL too.

[Fish]

I use my own version of facebook to interact with my friends

First I BOOK a reservation at a restaurant
Second I talk to my friend's FACE while I have lunch/dinner with them

Not a system that would work for everyone, but it works just fine for me.

To each his own. :yeah:

Ehhh, you missed the mic in the sugar bowl.http://www.langkawi.dk/smileys/u55.gif

[Sailor Steve]

@ Kiwi_2005:

I like your stories about your ancestors. I'm told that my early family were part of the Saxon invasion of Britain in the 400s AD, and that the family name was then Brodfeldt, but I've seen no real evidence. I also supposedly have ancestors who fought against the Normans, but again no direct proof.

My earliest traceable forbear was a James Bradfield who came to Virginia from England in 1780, which was right in the middle of the American Revolution. Was he a sailor who jumped ship? A soldier who deserted? Was there open trade and travel at that point of the war? I have no Idea.

Our family then spread southward to Georgia and the west to Texas. My great-great-grandfather owned a stage line in Dallas, and owned several slaves. His younger son, my great-grandfather, fought for the Fourth Texas Regiment in Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia. I have a friend who thinks it's funny to point out that my ancestors were always oppressors of the masses, and always fought on the wrong side of whatever war they were in.

Knowing who you are and where you come from is always fun.:sunny:

[OneToughHerring]

Seems to be a lot of stuff going on about Facebook as most of you've probably noticed. They've been storing the info people put there and want to use it for some purpose, probably commercial or something. Personally I don't the trust the thing and won't put my info there. I have to say though that I'm not that surprised that it ended up so after all the hype.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/02/18/facebook.reversal/index.html

But what SailorSteve wrote is kinda interesting, been meaning to study my ancestry but haven't yet found the sources. Coming from the north of Finland it's no wonder I have some 'native Finnish' Sami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people) blood, how much exactly I'm not sure.

Renee Zellweger is considered one of us, whohoo. :DL

[Biggles]

FB is more for young people: People my age:O:

It's mostly fillout, but Facebook did help me with finding a girl that I thought was forever lost...things haven't turned out my way really, but at least we have a friendship, which re-started through Facebook. I can't deny that that lifted my spirits towards the whole thing:)

[U-84]

any facebookers here that in the facebook group silent hunter 3?

[Iron Budokan]

Guys, I'm on Facebook, too, and I actually like it. It gives me a good way to network with other writing professionals and friends I've lost touch with over the years.

It's also more college/adult oriented than My Space which is a plus in my book.

Feel free to friend me and just mention subsim and I'll friend you back!

Kenneth Mark Hoover

[nikimcbee]

okay, I caved in and signed up. I've found more of my old friends than all of the other sites combined.

Jason Lobo

add me now, and you'll recieve a free thread posting at subsim!:haha:

[lesrae]

Well, in case any of you are at Facebook, then here's two groups for you.

Silent Hunter 3
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9794147925

Silent Hunter 4
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=31991949166

And of course there's the SubSim group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=25990473292

[Onkel Neal]

Some meditation over Facebook:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/14/facebook/print

Everybody is free to take this into account, or not.

Thank you for this article...makes good points.

My name, address, etc etc is not a matter of national security..I still choose to drink Pepsi and Coke of my own free will....But ya I see where to much information is not a great thing in the hands of those who wish do do harm...good article.

Hear, hear! Never understood the whole "frightened into anonimity" thing, myself. I've had my home address and real name online for 14 years, no big deal. Before that, it was in the public phone book. No reason to panic, I've only had to shoot two intruders and one stalker in that whole time period.:ping:

[Onkel Neal]

Hi Robin, I think I found you ( the correct Robin Hawkins), I could not add you as a friend so I sent you a message.

I normally don't use FB much myself, I do enough networking here in Subsim, but it has proven useful in making contact with about 10 of my old girlfriends. :shucks:

[Dowly]

And Dowly is your name really Teemu?....are ya from Finland..?

Yes and yes. :yeah:

[nikimcbee]

Hi Robin, I think I found you ( the correct Robin Hawkins), I could not add you as a friend so I sent you a message.

I normally don't use FB much myself, I do enough networking here in Subsim, but it has proven useful in making contact with about 10 of my old girlfriends. :shucks:

Same here, it's subsim or nuttin. But I have found a bunch of high school and elementary friends:D .