View Full Version : 8 years in 8 minutes.
Let the vitriol begin.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnE4C9Gv5U
Task Force
01-19-09, 02:38 AM
Yea, bush really shot America the bird in his 8 years. Some shabby s*** he and others in the political system have done.:nope:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnE4C9Gv5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtnE4C9Gv5U)
Ah.. 'Bathtub Boy' is on a roll again. Sorry.. stopped watching after I noticed that it comes from MSNBC and Olbermann.
nikimcbee
01-19-09, 03:26 AM
This is the best response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxifu8or4AM
Skybird
01-19-09, 08:24 AM
For the second time, another council of american historians some weeks ago voted Bush to have been the most incompetent and stupid US president of all US history. They hardly are alone with that assessement, several hundred colleagues of theirs did the same I think two years ago or so. I certainly do not disagree.
After 7 extremely harmful years, Bush is leaving, and that is a very good thing for the US, and the world.
He was elected even a second time instead of being chased out of office, and worse: he will never be held responsible for the mess he piled up - that is the grain of salt in it.
People have been brought to courts and tribunals for less than what he has on his record. That he will evade that consequence, may be a realistic expectation, but it hardly is okay - since he should be held responsible by the American people indeed, and the world's people alike.
Phoney go home - and stay there, forever...!!!
What do you expect? Things have hardly changed since the days of absolutism. Those in power are above the law, pretty much true in all countries no matter the system.
breadcatcher101
01-19-09, 10:54 AM
Clinton was a lot worse than Bush ever was. But that is just me.
Oh yeah, Bill Clinton right, got his best part royally treated, much much much worse then throwing away the lifes of thousands of folks and ruining a countries economy and reptutation for at least a couple decades.
But yeah, I forgot it's the country where games get trashed for the inclusion of making ppl instead of killing them, so it's at least consistent.
AVGWarhawk
01-19-09, 12:38 PM
Hummmm...........I wonder whatever happened to the checks and balances system of government? Odd how an entire body of elected officials on Capitol Hill stood idly by for 8 years as all of this went on. Amazing really.
Phoney go home - and stay there, forever...!!!
I wonder if this is this the official opinion of German council of department store clerks or warehouse workers or both... :hmm: :lol:
Hummmm...........I wonder whatever happened to the checks and balances system of government? Odd how an entire body of elected officials on Capitol Hill stood idly by for 8 years as all of this went on. Amazing really.
Apparently Germans have trouble with the concept of representative government. It's just easier to blame teh Bush for everything.
Onkel Neal
01-19-09, 01:40 PM
Phoney go home - and stay there, forever...!!!
I wonder if this is this the official opinion of German council of department store clerks or warehouse workers or both... :hmm: :lol:
No, it's just another example of rampant, unthinking BDS :rotfl:
AVGWarhawk
01-19-09, 01:41 PM
Hummmm...........I wonder whatever happened to the checks and balances system of government? Odd how an entire body of elected officials on Capitol Hill stood idly by for 8 years as all of this went on. Amazing really.
Apparently Germans have trouble with the concept of representative government. It's just easier to blame teh Bush for everything.
It saves on ink as all those names do not have to be typed. Not to mention with employment cutbacks, no one has any personnel to type it all up. Being as we are going green it will save paper and tree. :D
Tchocky
01-19-09, 02:09 PM
Hummmm...........I wonder whatever happened to the checks and balances system of government? Odd how an entire body of elected officials on Capitol Hill stood idly by for 8 years as all of this went on. Amazing really.
Apparently Germans have trouble with the concept of representative government. It's just easier to blame teh Bush for everything. And it's easier to blame Clinton for anything that went wrong 1992-2000. And not the Senate/House. But we all know that neither branch has 100% responsibility.
Re the OP - The benefits of waiting for a Democratic administration to start investigations/procedures is obvious. Less time wasted in filibustering/vetoing.
EDIT - thought I was in the Pelosi thread :P
AVGWarhawk
01-19-09, 02:22 PM
Hummmm...........I wonder whatever happened to the checks and balances system of government? Odd how an entire body of elected officials on Capitol Hill stood idly by for 8 years as all of this went on. Amazing really.
Apparently Germans have trouble with the concept of representative government. It's just easier to blame teh Bush for everything. And it's easier to blame Clinton for anything that went wrong 1992-2000. And not the Senate/House. But we all know that neither branch has 100% responsibility.
Re the OP - The benefits of waiting for a Democratic administration to start investigations/procedures is obvious. Less time wasted in filibustering/vetoing.
EDIT - thought I was in the Pelosi thread :P
None of them will take responsibility!!!! Just this past housing foreclosure debacle is proof of that!!!! Teflon covers the folks in the Capitol....nothing sticks!
Tchocky
01-19-09, 02:36 PM
In fairness, AVG, the current economic crisis cannot be blamed entirely or even mostly on politicians, much less on a single party.
AVGWarhawk
01-19-09, 02:53 PM
In fairness, AVG, the current economic crisis cannot be blamed entirely or even mostly on politicians, much less on a single party.
Well, yes it can. Lets take for example the ignored warnings from the past two years concerning the housing industry. Lets take Barney Frank's feel good report on Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac just three months before the cat was out of the bag. Let's take a look at strong arm tactics established by the Clinton administration concerning lenders and giving all, no matter financial standing, the American dream of a home. Loans afforded to people who could not afford the loans. Refi under refi. The lenders were under the thumb but found they can do well by creating loans either good or bad. The Fed said they would bail them out anyway. Well here we are. Let's take a look at the watch dogs who did not watch. Regulation in some instances is good. The only one reporting in was Barney Frank. His reports were always full of rainbows. No blame on a single party but active participants were in the democratic party. But, that is neither here nor there. The deal was done and we are screwed. But, we are just as dumb as the next guy to keep these people in DC through elections process. We do not have term limits established. DC needs an entire overhaul, not just an Obama or Al Franken to make it all level.
UnderseaLcpl
01-19-09, 03:26 PM
In fairness, AVG, the current economic crisis cannot be blamed entirely or even mostly on politicians, much less on a single party.
Au contraire, it can be blamed almost exclusively on politicians. There are any number of reasons that can be cited, from "fairness-inlending" acts to fiat currency and the exsistence of a central bank to competition-stifling overregulation, but politicians, and the goverment in general, can easily be held accountable for any economic crisis in the past century. If not for causing it, then for making it worse. The current crisis is no exception.
In fact, there are two major schools of economics (Austrian and Chicagoan) that are essentially based on the idea that government, and therefore politicians, can doom economic systems to failure. The world around us is replete with examples. The top-scoring nations on the index of economic freedom are also generally the wealthiest per capita. The only exceptions are nations like the U.A.E. with an overabundance of oil production per capita.
Evidently, spending the better part of a century learning that the government will never satisfactorily resolve economic issues has taught us nothing. We've already been down this path many, many times. It inevitably leads to a general downturn in GDP per capita followed by war and/or social unrest, especially when a world power does it.
So, imo, politicians actually can be blamed for the current economic situation. What really confuses me is why so many people trust them to fix things when they are almost unilaterally considered to be incompetent and/or corrupt.
Digital_Trucker
01-19-09, 03:40 PM
At the risk of being repetitive, doesn't this belong in the "Bash Bush" thread?:D
AVGWarhawk
01-19-09, 05:31 PM
Nah..it has turned into a hang'em all in effigy thread:up:
Still, to this day, I dont understand why ppl support Bush's "crusade" to Iraq. Nothing has been gained there (No, dont tell me "Well, we got a dictator out of power", you've had change since 1991 to get him out of power and there's tons of other countries with dictators that doestn seem to interest you).
I've said this before, but I say it again. Bush will always be remembered from Iraq and not in good way. Some surely will remember him as the "Freedom carrying white knight" but the the rest will remember him for false evidence of WMD's wich lead to thousands of killed civilians (enemies to those who believe the freedom crap) and coalition soldiers.
baggygreen
01-19-09, 07:28 PM
^^ True on the perceptions
And it is a shame as there were a lot (ok, a number) of good things which came from the past 8 years, and a number of tough choices made. they aren't popular, but they were (and remain in my mind) 100% right.
Thats the way of the world now though, you're remembered for your wrong, not your rights.
AVGWarhawk
01-19-09, 08:11 PM
Still, to this day, I dont understand why ppl support Bush's "crusade" to Iraq. Nothing has been gained there (No, dont tell me "Well, we got a dictator out of power", you've had change since 1991 to get him out of power and there's tons of other countries with dictators that doestn seem to interest you).
I've said this before, but I say it again. Bush will always be remembered from Iraq and not in good way. Some surely will remember him as the "Freedom carrying white knight" but the the rest will remember him for false evidence of WMD's wich lead to thousands of killed civilians (enemies to those who believe the freedom crap) and coalition soldiers.
I would not say I was a staunch supporter of the Iraq debacle. One supports ones country in such situations, if not the men and women who went. But, if you recall, after 9-11 everyone was all for it. Now, hindsight is 20/20. If everything was correct and went according to plan, we would not be having this conversation. All of it went into the crapper when WMD were not found. Troops were moved here and there. All bad intelligence. Bush will admit that as well as Colin Powell. Both have said so in public. It is unfortnate that we need to finish what we started. As John McCain said, do not let Iraq be this generations Vietnam. So, we continue to toe the line in hopes something does come this that is good.
gimpy117
01-19-09, 10:51 PM
Truth hurt?:)
seconded....
Ishmael
01-19-09, 11:11 PM
All I know is that I'll be this at 12:01 EST tomorrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXuoZ5GRm6o
Aramike
01-20-09, 12:59 AM
Still, to this day, I dont understand why ppl support Bush's "crusade" to Iraq. Nothing has been gained there (No, dont tell me "Well, we got a dictator out of power", you've had change since 1991 to get him out of power and there's tons of other countries with dictators that doestn seem to interest you).
I've said this before, but I say it again. Bush will always be remembered from Iraq and not in good way. Some surely will remember him as the "Freedom carrying white knight" but the the rest will remember him for false evidence of WMD's wich lead to thousands of killed civilians (enemies to those who believe the freedom crap) and coalition soldiers.The reason I don't buy this "WMD-evidence" line of thinking is because I don't believe it matters all that much.
I believe that there are far more strategic reasons for going to Iraq than people are aware of, and those reasons are only beginning to become apparent ... Iran comes to mind...
nikimcbee
01-20-09, 01:29 AM
I'll get the thread back on track:
out with the old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPtTj1mOl0&feature=related
In the spirit of hope, change....
Happy New Year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9mjebeMwM&feature=PlayList&p=45EDB1F246C18ED6&playnext=1&index=10
jedi mind tricks really do work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_jh2dO78U&feature=related
God man, you put me to sleep..... :doh:
Onkel Neal
01-20-09, 08:29 AM
A look at U.S. presidents' job-approval ratings
How the Presidents Stack Up (http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html)
Interesting, Truman has very low numbers... was he a bad president? :hmm:
kiwi_2005
01-20-09, 09:03 AM
Heres something slightly different: Evolution of Dance in 6 minutes
Guy dances threw the years, pretty well done.:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg
A look at U.S. presidents' job-approval ratings
How the Presidents Stack Up (http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-presapp0605-31.html)
Interesting, Truman has very low numbers... was he a bad president? :hmm:
And was Bill Clinton a better president than Jack Kennedy? :hmm:
Konovalov
01-20-09, 11:04 AM
President George W Bush has 1 more hour left in office. So forget the 8 years in 8 minutes. :-j
OneToughHerring
01-20-09, 11:24 AM
Yea Bush still has the lauch code, and the 'button'. Would make for a great exit if he slammed one on Washington with one minute left of his term. :o
Yea Bush still has the lauch code, and the 'button'. Would make for a great exit if he slammed one on Washington with one minute left of his term. :o
"great" isn't a word I would use... :roll:
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