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Brag
01-11-09, 10:15 AM
First of all, I'm moving and taking only my luggage.

This requires that I get a laptop and get rid of my desktop.

Number two :damn:

my SH3/GWX2.1 won't load anymore, it shows an error in an exe file.

All new and refurbished computers come with vista.

I would like to get a laptop (if I can afford it) that will handle GWX 3.0.
Then get a disk without the Starforce thing. Someone mentioned that Amazon sells SH3 without Starforce--which one is it?

Oh great gurus and computer geeks, I NEED ADVICE!.

For the time being, I gave Balz a job ashore.
I am flying off to Chile on 15 February and will be off the internet while I find an apartment and get hooked up online.

Balle Klorin
01-11-09, 10:25 AM
Reformat, install WinXP SP3, et voila.......problems solved for a long time :yep:

I really don't understand why ppl get Vista in the first place :damn:

Dutchie-one
01-11-09, 10:29 AM
Hello Brag, I buy a new SH3 cd by Amazon.co.uk
on the lower left site there is eXclusive Focus.

When I have my new Comp. it was preinstal of Vista I told the guy i did not want that so he removed the HD an put in a new one empty so I instal Xp pro.

Hope this help, Dutchie-one :up:

Jimbuna
01-11-09, 11:03 AM
As already suggested......just reformat and put XP Pro (my preference) in.

Good luck with the move http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Freiwillige
01-11-09, 01:22 PM
(Fritz von Titz approves this post):up:

Fritz von Titz finally drove you off eh Brag? Just Kidding have a safe journey my friend and well see ya soon:up:

GoldenRivet
01-11-09, 01:30 PM
Where you moving to herr brag

Jimbuna
01-11-09, 02:25 PM
Chile apparently but don't know exactly where.

It sounds cold wherever it is :p

A Very Super Market
01-11-09, 02:27 PM
Chile is right next to Argentina, and depending on where he goes, it might be Chile. Maybe you will see some of Balz's friends in Argentina....:hmm:

kenijaru
01-11-09, 02:57 PM
Chile is right next to Argentina, and depending on where he goes, it might be Chile. Maybe you will see some of Balz's friends in Argentina....:hmm:
i don't think Balz has nazi friends... uhm... i mean... that's not cool :nope:

A Very Super Market
01-11-09, 03:01 PM
What should I have said? Colleagues? Thats much too artsy-fartsy. Wait...does Balz have any friends?

Weiss Pinguin
01-11-09, 03:14 PM
What should I have said? Colleagues? Thats much too artsy-fartsy. Wait...does Balz have any friends?
Bernard, of course. ;)

Thats much too artsy-fartsy.
Banana!

Edit: NOOOOOOOOO

Wild night in bangkok :(

A Very Super Market
01-11-09, 03:16 PM
I recommend SPAM

Its only one post before you get a new guy


Ironic how I get this thing when you get Wild Night in Bangkok.

Weiss Pinguin
01-11-09, 03:20 PM
Ironic how I get this thing when you get Wild Night in Bangkok.
Shh, not out loud! :o For goodness' sake, do you want people to find out about you know what?!

Torplexed
01-11-09, 03:21 PM
Ironic how I get this thing when you get Wild Night in Bangkok.

The hat is quite fetching. ;)

A Very Super Market
01-11-09, 03:23 PM
*Shudder ...

Is it gone now?

Torplexed
01-11-09, 03:35 PM
Yes, you're back to your normally scheduled avatar. :sunny:

Brag
01-11-09, 04:48 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

Reformat? Reformat what? How do you do it?
Can you get XP free?

I'm a total computer twit. :roll:

For your info, I'm heading for Santiago --still 5 weeks to go.

What are the computer specs to run GWX 3.0?

kenijaru
01-11-09, 05:42 PM
mind the question....
"WHY?"
:smug:

Weiss Pinguin
01-11-09, 05:50 PM
Can you get XP free?
Probably not, but check around Ebay, Amazon, and the like.


Then again they may go kind of high since XP's out of print now, dunno. :hmm:

9emini
01-11-09, 06:08 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

Reformat? Reformat what? How do you do it?
Can you get XP free?

I'm a total computer twit. :roll:

For your info, I'm heading for Santiago --still 5 weeks to go.

What are the computer specs to run GWX 3.0?

Thx for the welcome (elsewhere) Brag! If your current desktop computer didn't come with a Windows XP install disc then you'll need to buy a copy (new or 2nd-hand - amazon or eBay, e.g.). Once you have this, and have your new laptop (pre-loaded with Vista) sitting in front of you, replacing Vista with XP should be a simple matter. OR (and this may be an unpopular suggestion :D) you could 'add' XP to the laptop while retaining Vista (a pretty simple task), in which case you'd choose which operating system to use when you turned the machine on. Perhaps if you can't avoid getting a laptop with Vista on it, you could see how installing/updating/playing SH etc goes on it, and if needed, acquire XP?

kenijaru
01-11-09, 07:14 PM
the problem is... how hard will it be to get XP drivers for the elements of the laptop? :hmm:
hardware doesn't work on it's own like some sort of magic act ;)


Perhaps if you can't avoid getting a laptop with Vista on it, you could see how installing/updating/playing SH etc goes on it, and if needed, acquire XP?


he can't avoid it, XP hasn't been put into new machines since... uhm... a long time ago :cool:
also, the issue with Vista (the way I see it) is not "compatibility" but rather... how anoying it is asking you a thousand times about the smalles tasks and details, being painfully slow and prone to stalling when asked to multitask. (that's my experience with a toshiba with vista home)

barkhorn45
01-11-09, 07:52 PM
I have sh3 with gwx2.1 installed on a laptop with vista home premium and have'nt experianced any difficulties.I d/led sh3 from direct to drive for $9.95 no starforce and already patched to 1.4

Weiss Pinguin
01-11-09, 09:12 PM
Thx for the welcome (elsewhere) Brag! If your current desktop computer didn't come with a Windows XP install disc then you'll need to buy a copy (new or 2nd-hand - amazon or eBay, e.g.). Once you have this, and have your new laptop (pre-loaded with Vista) sitting in front of you, replacing Vista with XP should be a simple matter. OR (and this may be an unpopular suggestion :D) you could 'add' XP to the laptop while retaining Vista (a pretty simple task), in which case you'd choose which operating system to use when you turned the machine on. Perhaps if you can't avoid getting a laptop with Vista on it, you could see how installing/updating/playing SH etc goes on it, and if needed, acquire XP?
Perhaps he could look around for a refurbished laptop with XP? :hmm:

9emini
01-11-09, 09:36 PM
I have sh3 with gwx2.1 installed on a laptop with vista home premium and have'nt experianced any difficulties.I d/led sh3 from direct to drive for $9.95 no starforce and already patched to 1.4
I too have a vista machine - running starforce-free sh3 1.4 (no mods tho' - YET!)

the problem is... how hard will it be to get XP drivers for the elements of the laptop? :hmm:
hardware doesn't work on it's own like some sort of magic act ;)

I'm not sure what hardware you foresee problems with, kenijaru! I imagine XP is still the world's most commonly-used operating system...



Perhaps if you can't avoid getting a laptop with Vista on it, you could see how installing/updating/playing SH etc goes on it, and if needed, acquire XP?

he can't avoid it, XP hasn't been put into new machines since... uhm... a long time ago :cool:

Make's Weiß Pinguin's suggestion all the more useful!


also, the issue with Vista (the way I see it) is not "compatibility" but rather... how anoying it is asking you a thousand times about the smalles tasks and details, being painfully slow and prone to stalling when asked to multitask. (that's my experience with a toshiba with vista home)
Vista home might be your problem there! I use the 'business' edition. Disabling 'User Account Control' (which - pain of pains! - requires a reboot) deals to the first issue you raise. I find it annoying too, but were I to disable it I'd need a slew of resource-hogging software (virus scanners etc) to do the same job. Haven't noticed any deficiencies on the multitasking front - tho' file operations do go ridiculously slow (even after a service pack!). I mean... to copy the tiniest of files can take an inordinate amount of time...

Laufen zum Ziel
01-15-09, 11:42 AM
When my computer crashed I reloaded Vista (32) with the
phone help of an Alienware tech. I then downloaded SHIII
from Direct2Drive (already patched). It loaded with no problems.

I then loaded GWX 3 and some mods over SHIII. Again it
loaded fine and I am up and running with Gold.

Robert Fulton
01-15-09, 01:31 PM
The SH3 "Encore" edition at Amazon is reputed to be Starforce free. It actually contains both SH2 and SH3, for what that is worth.

XP costs about $150. (IMO it is repugnant that Microsoft uses its power to bully customers by forcing us to swallow Vista or pay extra to downgrade to XP.) Perahps you could buy a quality used laptop that already has XP on it.

I suppose you are aware that you will need a powerful computer with a really good video card.

Best of luck.

Brag
01-15-09, 06:14 PM
Hmm. I have a bunch of recovery disks. Would that work on new computer with Vista to install XP?

Robert Fulton
01-15-09, 09:05 PM
Hmm. I have a bunch of recovery disks. Would that work on new computer with Vista to install XP?

Can't say for sure from this distance, but it is 95% the answer is "no".

Why not see what is on eBay. You might get lucky. And if you find one that looks promising, get some advice from people here as to whether it will run SH3 comfortably.

Another possibility would be to install the Linux operating system and run SH3 under something called Wine. I am looking into that myself for a Mac. The problem there is that if you are not somewhat of a computer guy, then a Linux/Wine install could be a headache.

Faamecanic
01-15-09, 09:08 PM
As already suggested......just reformat and put XP Pro (my preference) in.

Good luck with the move http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Or better yet...if you have a big enough Hard drive...set up a DUAL BOOT with both WinXP and Vista http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed _first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm

TarJak
01-16-09, 01:56 AM
Just about any new laptop with a dual core and a reasonable Gfx card will handle it. Just make sure you get them to put in about 4GB of RAM.

If reformatting and installing XP is too hard you can install SH3 and GWX3.0 on a laptop with Vista. I'm currently sailing that way right now as my desktop is in the shop awaiting a new motherboard.

The destructions to do that are in the Install SH3 on Vista thread which is stickied in this forum.

You need to be real careful with starforce copy protection but if you just remember to remove it before trying to play for the first time then it should be no problem.

Of course if you run into problems you can always post something here and get loads of occasionally helpful advice.

FIREWALL
01-16-09, 02:10 AM
TigerDirect.com Since you didn't say how much you wanted to spend, here's a link.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Lprice=500&Hprice=999.99&CatId=17

not nemo
01-16-09, 07:46 PM
newbie needin a bit of advice here, i bought sh3 and am waiting for my laptop to arrive from uk as i moved to nz, question i have is will sh3 run on a hewlett packard compaq 6710e with vista? i'm not educated in computers so a bit of advice would be much appreciated. just been reading this forum and have a bad feeling my laptop won't handle it:damn:

Faamecanic
01-17-09, 10:42 AM
newbie needin a bit of advice here, i bought sh3 and am waiting for my laptop to arrive from uk as i moved to nz, question i have is will sh3 run on a hewlett packard compaq 6710e with vista? i'm not educated in computers so a bit of advice would be much appreciated. just been reading this forum and have a bad feeling my laptop won't handle it:damn:

Specs for your laptop?
HP Compaq 6710e T7250 VB

Core 2 Duo 2.00GHz, 1GB RAM, 120GB HDD, 15.4" WXGA 1280x800, DVD-R/+R DL, Intel GMA X3100 Shared Memory, LAN, WLAN a/b/g, Bluetooth, Modem, Firewire, 6in1 Cardreader, FingerprintSensor


I would say maybe with SH3 on minimal settings. If you plan on running GWX...probably not being as it uses a Intel shared memory graphics adapter and you only have 1 GB of RAM. Now if you could upgrade the RAM to 2GB or even better 4GB.... again I say maybe. Never tried to run SH3 let alone GWX on a laptop so I cant say for sure. But I do know that with GWX, max settings, and in a heavy convoy attack even my desktop gets some stuttering.

not nemo
01-19-09, 12:48 AM
hey thanks for that, at least there is hope. i'll just have to wait till my laptop arrives from the uk and take it from there, my missus knows a bit more than me about computers so she can sort it all out, i'll buy the alcohol while she does the computer magic, perfect!!! if its a no go i'll just have to splash out a few bucks and upgrade whatever needs upgrading.
cheers again.

9emini
01-19-09, 05:13 AM
Welcome to NZ (and this place) not nemo! Are you anywhere near Canterbury?

Jimbuna
01-19-09, 06:28 AM
Welcome aboard not nemo http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/welcome.gif

A missus with IT skills......very fortunate sir http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif