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McHub532
12-20-08, 04:29 PM
Okay, I know the "CO2 building up and never purging with fresh air even when on the surface" bug has been around and I've experienced a few times.

Before my problems with not being able to load saved games it wasn't a big deal. I'd save the game, turn it off, reload and it was fine. But now the only time I can load a game is when it auto-saves in port.

So every time this error comes up I have to start back in port again.

Does anyone know a work-around or a fix to this issue?

kylesplanet
12-20-08, 05:18 PM
Okay, I know the "CO2 building up and never purging with fresh air even when on the surface" bug has been around and I've experienced a few times.

Before my problems with not being able to load saved games it wasn't a big deal. I'd save the game, turn it off, reload and it was fine. But now the only time I can load a game is when it auto-saves in port.

So every time this error comes up I have to start back in port again.

Does anyone know a work-around or a fix to this issue?

If I remember correctly, if you will click on the little blue co2 icon that appears in the corner, it will vent.

The bigger question is why can't you load saved games?

McHub532
12-20-08, 05:23 PM
Okay, I know the "CO2 building up and never purging with fresh air even when on the surface" bug has been around and I've experienced a few times.

Before my problems with not being able to load saved games it wasn't a big deal. I'd save the game, turn it off, reload and it was fine. But now the only time I can load a game is when it auto-saves in port.

So every time this error comes up I have to start back in port again.

Does anyone know a work-around or a fix to this issue?

If I remember correctly, if you will click on the little blue co2 icon that appears in the corner, it will vent.

The bigger question is why can't you load saved games?

In a perfect world yes. But it's a bug. I am surfaced, I click on the CO2 button in the upper right corner..... no go. I die anyway because it will not vent and give me fresh air.

Example.. two missions in a row now I've had to start over because of this bug.

To read about the saved games problem there are many threads on the issue. It's a well known issue with SH4 since it's release and has never been fixed.

Kaleun
12-20-08, 05:27 PM
don't alt-tab whilst in the game it causes this! save the game and then reload it, the CO2 will return to normal levels

Kaleun

kylesplanet
12-20-08, 05:30 PM
Okay, I know the "CO2 building up and never purging with fresh air even when on the surface" bug has been around and I've experienced a few times.

Before my problems with not being able to load saved games it wasn't a big deal. I'd save the game, turn it off, reload and it was fine. But now the only time I can load a game is when it auto-saves in port.

So every time this error comes up I have to start back in port again.

Does anyone know a work-around or a fix to this issue?

If I remember correctly, if you will click on the little blue co2 icon that appears in the corner, it will vent.

The bigger question is why can't you load saved games?

In a perfect world yes. But it's a bug. I am surfaced, I click on the CO2 button in the upper right corner..... no go. I die anyway because it will not vent and give me fresh air.

To read about the saved games problem there are many threads on the issue. It's a well known issue with SH4 since it's release and has never been fixed.

I know about the CO2 bug but several here click the icon to surface instead of just surfacing with the S key.

As far as saved games, I've played SH4 since it came out and have only had one corrupt save. As a matter of fact, I don't know of anyone who cant save at all. You should be able to save whenever you want. Most say not to save submerged or near action or near land. I save in whatever condition and never have any problems at all.

If you can never save a game except autosave, then something is wrong.

McHub532
12-20-08, 05:30 PM
don't alt-tab whilst in the game it causes this! save the game and then reload it, the CO2 will return to normal levels

Kaleun

Awesome.. I'll give that a try.

Thanks!

McHub532
12-20-08, 05:43 PM
If you can never save a game except autosave, then something is wrong.

Nope.. just tried it.

Away from land, zero speed, zero time compression, no contacts around.... saved.

Reload.... Game save Error

Nothing.

I am completely unable to save a game ever. I've redone some missions 6 times because I can never save and hope to go back before a bad decision and restart.. I have to start from the beginning every time.

kylesplanet
12-20-08, 05:47 PM
If you can never save a game except autosave, then something is wrong.

Nope.. just tried it.

Away from land, zero speed, zero time compression, no contacts around.... saved.

Reload.... Game save Error

Nothing.

I am completely unable to save a game ever. I've redone some missions 6 times because I can never save and hope to go back before a bad decision and restart.. I have to start from the beginning every time.

Are you running any mods? Not being able to save is a buzz kill for sure. BTW, are you running Vista?

McHub532
12-20-08, 05:50 PM
Are you running any mods? Not being able to save is a buzz kill for sure. BTW, are you running Vista?

Yes: JSGME
About 12 mods and I don't dare minimize the game because of the error I was just told about to cut/paste them here right now.

Yes on Vista.

I'm running everying with: Run as Administrator, etc.

kylesplanet
12-20-08, 05:58 PM
Are you running any mods? Not being able to save is a buzz kill for sure. BTW, are you running Vista?

Yes: JSGME
About 12 mods and I don't dare minimize the game because of the error I was just told about to cut/paste them here right now.

Yes on Vista.

I'm running everying with: Run as Administrator, etc.

Do you have your game installed in Program files or in a seperate folder outside of "Program Files". I too am running Vista and installing it outside the Program Files took care of a lot of problems.

Also, make sure you are running in "compatability mode".

We gotta get that fixed, that should not be happening.

McHub532
12-20-08, 06:08 PM
Do you have your game installed in Program files or in a seperate folder outside of "Program Files". I too am running Vista and installing it outside the Program Files took care of a lot of problems.

Also, make sure you are running in "compatability mode".

We gotta get that fixed, that should not be happening.

Oh dear.. reinstalling would be the 7th time (so many bugs If the game wasn't insane awesome I'd have done a ritual DVD burning long ago).

I don't know if I could start all over from mission 1 for the 7th time.

I'll write down this information though and when I'm sure I come across another bug that makes the game completely unplayable.. I'll reinstall outside of Program Files.

kylesplanet
12-20-08, 06:18 PM
Do you have your game installed in Program files or in a seperate folder outside of "Program Files". I too am running Vista and installing it outside the Program Files took care of a lot of problems.

Also, make sure you are running in "compatability mode".

We gotta get that fixed, that should not be happening.

Oh dear.. reinstalling would be the 7th time (so many bugs If the game wasn't insane awesome I'd have done a ritual DVD burning long ago).

I don't know if I could start all over from mission 1 for the 7th time.

I'll write down this information though and when I'm sure I come across another bug that makes the game completely unplayable.. I'll reinstall outside of Program Files.

When you get time, I would strongly suggest installing it outside Program Files. It will solve a bunch of problems.:yep:

McHub532
12-20-08, 06:20 PM
When you get time, I would strongly suggest installing it outside Program Files. It will solve a bunch of problems.:yep:

Do you have a way I can save my saved games and don't have to start all over?

Just keep my
>Documents
...>SH4
......>Subdirectories with saved games, etc.


Uninstall the game and select (do not remove saved games) when it offers... reinstall putting it outside Program files... will it still find my saved games in >Documents?

I would be crazy happy if I didn't have to work around bugs in the game most of the time I'm playing it.

$$$$$$

Oh.. BTW.. this is an Edit.....

I just pushed the CO2 button instead of S (for surface).. and it worked.. it cleared out the bad air.

Diopos
12-20-08, 06:22 PM
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I'll write down this information though and when I'm sure I come across another bug that makes the game completely unplayable.. I'll reinstall outside of Program Files.

You can't save ... what more do you expect to reach the "completely unplayable" threshold? Your PC catcing fire?:hmm:

McHub532
12-20-08, 08:28 PM
I uninstalled Silent Hunter 4


Reinstalled it in my root drive (not it Programs x86)...

I previously pulled my mods out onto desktop and opted to "do not uninstall saved games"....

I don't have to start from the beginning.. New install (again).. and my saved games loaded fine.

Now the test to see if I can go out away from land.. save a game and see if it loads.

McHub532
12-20-08, 08:31 PM
****

Load Failed

****

oh well.. what can I expect from a game filled with bugs and crashes.

I should be happy I can complete a whole mission without the CO2 bug messing me up (I hope).

Rockin Robbins
12-20-08, 08:52 PM
McHub, you are trying to load a game saved with one (not working) configuration into another configuration. The only way that's going to work is in port. This is not a bug. It's your fault.

You know I really hate it when someone calls bug rather than figure out what they're doing wrong. Probably just a personal problem.:rotfl:

McHub532
12-20-08, 10:18 PM
McHub, you are trying to load a game saved with one (not working) configuration into another configuration. The only way that's going to work is in port. This is not a bug. It's your fault.

You know I really hate it when someone calls bug rather than figure out what they're doing wrong. Probably just a personal problem.:rotfl:

I just tried to save a new game after a fresh restart. I restarted the game, tried to load it and it gave me an error that it could not load the saved game.

SteamWake
12-20-08, 11:26 PM
Guess I'm lucky :hmm:

pythos
12-21-08, 02:03 AM
No one has asked this, so I will.

What version of the game are you running?

Stock sh4 with no patches would not load saved games. A very irresponsible act of the devs IMO, just about as bad as not implementing a save game feature at all (ala shells of fury, you know, that really promising game...with a really crappy external camera feature so you could not get a good look at the nicely detailed ships)

Anyhow, I noticed this problem going away after doing a fresh install and patching up to at least version 3.

Version 5 is the curent version, when mixed with the mods like OM, RFB, and RSRD, the game operates very well. Saved games and all.

Good luck.

McHub532
12-21-08, 08:54 AM
No one has asked this, so I will.

What version of the game are you running?

Stock sh4 with no patches would not load saved games. A very irresponsible act of the devs IMO, just about as bad as not implementing a save game feature at all (ala shells of fury, you know, that really promising game...with a really crappy external camera feature so you could not get a good look at the nicely detailed ships)

Anyhow, I noticed this problem going away after doing a fresh install and patching up to at least version 3.

Version 5 is the curent version, when mixed with the mods like OM, RFB, and RSRD, the game operates very well. Saved games and all.

Good luck.
It's version 1.5. Silent Hunter 4 "Gold Edition" with the U-Boat as well. Bought it fresh and new out of the gaming store in the mall 1 month ago.

I haven't installed those major mods because of their size. Do you think they might help?

*** Edit ***
Ick! I just started to download RFB.. I have 1 day and 2 hours to go. That's not possible over here with generator switch offs with power and the routers and internet providers rebooting every day (at least). Grr.
Maybe I can have my wife back home download it and burn it to a.. oh crud.. the DVD burner on the home computer doesn't work.

Grrr!

Soundman
12-21-08, 10:06 AM
Hi McH..

This game is more stable than most may have you beleive. I run this game on two computers, both with Vista. I save very often and do not have any problems whatsoever. You may need to research what mods you are using for compatibility sake, and be sure to only install them while in port. I tend to think you should unistall SH4 completely and delete the old folder before reinstalling. There is a sticky thread to tell you the best, most thorough way to uninstall. I'm sure this isn't what you'd like to hear, but at this point, it's probably best. Forget your old saves, start a fresh career. :arrgh!:

Knowing you are serving our country in Bagdad for us, I'm sure if you figure out what big mods you prefer, someone here would be happy to burn and mail a disk to you with anything you request. You'd be amazed how helpful folks here are. Post the info. :up:

McHub532
12-21-08, 11:21 AM
Hi McH..

This game is more stable than most may have you beleive. I run this game on two computers, both with Vista. I save very often and do not have any problems whatsoever. You may need to research what mods you are using for compatibility sake, and be sure to only install them while in port. I tend to think you should unistall SH4 completely and delete the old folder before reinstalling. There is a sticky thread to tell you the best, most thorough way to uninstall. I'm sure this isn't what you'd like to hear, but at this point, it's probably best. Forget your old saves, start a fresh career. :arrgh!:

Knowing you are serving our country in Bagdad for us, I'm sure if you figure out what big mods you prefer, someone here would be happy to burn and mail a disk to you with anything you request. You'd be amazed how helpful folks here are. Post the info. :up:

Thank you Soundman, you are very kind.

I'd followed the instructions in the sticky thread once before about complete removal. Even got a special program off the internet that was suggested to make SURE all signed of SH4 was removed from my system. I kept no mods and also no saved games and then reinstalled.

Maybe it's an issue with the mods I use. I'll remove all mods and see if that fixes anything.

Thank you Sir.

McHub532
12-21-08, 11:39 AM
Just removing all mods didn't work.

The reason I discovered this forum in the first place was because the game was not loading saved games and I was looking for a fix with google.com.

So the issue didn't start because of mods.

Still... I'm going to pull everything off the laptop (SH4) and do a complete uninstall (to include all saved games and career information) and start from the very very very beginning again.

The last time here was the only time I ever tried to save the old saved games. All the other times were wiping out from the very beginning and starting fresh again.f

It never worked (fixed the bugs) before.. but who know. Enough people are mad at me for saying their are bugs that maybe I'm the only person having these issues. The many others are probably the only people too.

Regardless... I'll do a complete wipe again right now and start from the beginning again.

Warning: When I get to an even dozen reloads. I think I will move on to a new game. :)

McHub532
12-21-08, 12:35 PM
I just did a complete uninstall (all old saved games also deleted).. started a December 7th very beginning career with a stock boring no mod game.... saved out at sea as suggested.

IT WORKED!!

Now I'm going to add 1 mod... try again.. add 1 more mod.. try again.. and see if it was a mod issue or what.

Soundman
12-21-08, 12:47 PM
Hang in there Bud, you really will love this game, don't give up ! :up:

kylesplanet
12-21-08, 05:00 PM
I just did a complete uninstall (all old saved games also deleted).. started a December 7th very beginning career with a stock boring no mod game.... saved out at sea as suggested.

IT WORKED!!

Now I'm going to add 1 mod... try again.. add 1 more mod.. try again.. and see if it was a mod issue or what.

Alright!! :up: Hopefully you can figure out which mod it is or maybe it was just a bad install or something. Hopefully you will be able to use your favorite mods. :yep:

McHub532
12-21-08, 05:15 PM
Spectacular !

I've loaded in like 18 mods and no problems at all.

I can save...
I push the CO2 button to rise and purge if it comes on instead of the Surface button key (S).

Weee!

subchaser12
12-21-08, 06:47 PM
don't alt-tab whilst in the game it causes this! save the game and then reload it, the CO2 will return to normal levels

Kaleun

Awesome.. I'll give that a try.

Thanks!

Captain put the porn away!! We got a warship closing!!

Hylander_1314
12-21-08, 08:55 PM
McHub,

If you can set up your rig with 2 hard drives it's what I learned along time ago. Load the os on the main drive, and all the drivers and required junk, and on the second hard drive, I load all the stuff that I use on a regular basis. For instance, I have Drive C, contains all the Windows stuff and drivers for the hardware blah blah blah required crap. Drive D, has a folder for games, and folders for art ptrograms. The only reference to the games on C drive is the documents folder where the savegame and settings info defaults to. Both drives are setup with virtual memory so the game can access either one or both if it needs it, but since both have 100 gigs of dedicated virtual memory, I have yet to see both of them utilized completely. Hope this helps.