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OneToughHerring
12-19-08, 08:11 PM
The glorious motherland has come to pay a friendly visit. :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7792370.stm
"Russian warships have entered Cuban waters for the first time since the end of the Cold War.
A Russian destroyer and two support ships sailed into Havana Bay on their way home from joint exercises with the Venezuelan navy"
Admiral Chabanenko is what the ship is called.
They crossed the blockade?!!
Oh...wait... :damn: :lol:
Frame57
12-19-08, 08:21 PM
Ah! let em have a good time in Havana...Poor bastards never get good liberty ports anyway.:D
OneToughHerring
12-19-08, 08:27 PM
With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things. :)
edit. Not meant as a political thread, just admiring the ship.
With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things. :)
Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!
breadcatcher101
12-19-08, 08:43 PM
How puny Cuba's defense is, those shots fired from the fortress had no effect.;)
UnderseaLcpl
12-19-08, 08:47 PM
With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things. :)
Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!
Indeed. I would have much preferred the article "Cuban waters enter Russian ships":D
With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things. :)
Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!
Indeed. I would have much preferred the article "Cuban waters enter Russian ships":D
:rotfl:
nikimcbee
12-19-08, 11:11 PM
I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them.
I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them.
Hey they ain't made it home yet...
Aramike
12-20-08, 01:48 AM
Heh, an interesting display of might for a navy in shambles.
XabbaRus
12-20-08, 06:07 AM
Funny guys, you know the Russians have been making an effort with the petro dollars to keep their most modern ships servicable so I don't get all the surprise that they made it to Cuba.
AntEater
12-20-08, 06:16 AM
At the risk of being a bit on the "Russia STONG!11!!" side,
The russian navy currently is certainly not in shambles
We have the Kuznetsov and escorts operating in the Atlantic, Piotr Velikiy and Chanabenko in the Caribbean, Neustrashimiy in the gulf of Aden and Varyag plus escorts operating in the pacific enroute to India.
The Black Sea fleet might deploy to the med soon.
Currently the russians have more surface ships deployed than during all of the 1990s combined.
Also, during the ossetian war in summer, the black sea fleet was in operation after a day, landing troops pretty much everywhere it wanted.
This fleet included a 1960s era Kashin destroyer that certainly requires a lot of maintenance and attention.
While capital ships were limited to a cruiser, an old destroyer and some frigates, the black sea fleet still has a lot of missile boats and other corvettes plus amphibs, all of which were used.
We don't know how the russian submarine force is operating right now, but I suppose their operations have picked up as well.
While certainly not equal to the USN, the russian navy is still quite a force.
The only question is if they can keep up the pace, with those low oil prices, and if they can keep up with their replacement programs.
Those ships operating right now are all commissioned in the 1990s, but were allready laid down before the end of the USSR.
Admiral Chanabenko is the only completed Udaloy II destroyer, for example.
Jimbuna
12-20-08, 06:37 AM
It should be interesting to see what, if anything happens next.....a bigger more important vessel or perhaps an increase in numbers next time, possibly concluding in some sort of naval exercise.
I personally don't think there is anything really significant in the Cuban visit.
That could change though if any of the above occur in the new year.
AVGWarhawk
12-20-08, 06:55 AM
It should be interesting to see what, if anything happens next.....a bigger more important vessel or perhaps an increase in numbers next time, possibly concluding in some sort of naval exercise.
I personally don't think there is anything really significant in the Cuban visit.
That could change though if any of the above occur in the new year.
Russia is just flexing a muscle and picking up some fine Cuban cigars:up:
OneToughHerring
12-20-08, 11:58 AM
With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things. :)
Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!
Sure, sure but in the name of all things nautical & deadly...
Funny guys, you know the Russians have been making an effort with the petro dollars to keep their most modern ships servicable so I don't get all the surprise that they made it to Cuba.
Is Joke.
In Soviet Russia the joke tells you!
Digital_Trucker
12-20-08, 12:40 PM
I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them.
How do we know how many ships they started out with?:hmm:
Jimbuna
12-20-08, 04:10 PM
I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them.
How do we know how many ships they started out with?:hmm:
LOL :lol:
nikimcbee
12-20-08, 05:13 PM
It should be interesting to see what, if anything happens next.....a bigger more important vessel or perhaps an increase in numbers next time, possibly concluding in some sort of naval exercise.
I personally don't think there is anything really significant in the Cuban visit.
That could change though if any of the above occur in the new year.
Russia is just flexing a muscle and picking up some fine Cuban cigars:up:
Yeah, would you want to be in Murmansk this time of year?:hmm:
There is talk, that if these lower oil prices continue, which is doubtful, but us consumers can all hope, that Russia will be in a world of hurt. I am sure this may effect their defense funding if this continues for more than 12-18 months.
Either way, good to see that they are able to get out to see more. As long as they don't have hostile intentions, which I think is more of a Venezuela lead thing, they can dock here in San Diego for all I care. However, if their purpose is to be a counter weight, they can shove off.
So what is going on with the reestablishment of 4th Fleet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Fourth_Fleet)?
baggygreen
12-21-08, 10:43 PM
I can guarantee you that the russkies had a 688i / seawolf / virginia tailing them from the moment they left murmansk right up until they entered the canal.
If they choose to sail through to the pacific, I again guarantee that there's another sub sitting there waiting for them.
The russians know that too. but i dont think that they know where or how many or how far.
At the end of the day, its business as usual!:smug:
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