Terrorists Lego causing uproar

[SUBMAN1]

I want one!

http://www.foxnews.com/images/474501/1_61_terrorist_lego3.jpg

A Lego-style figurine resembling an Islamic terrorist strapped with explosives and made by a small American company has caused an uproar among Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

The controversial miniature figure, created by Seattle-based Will Chapman as part of his BrickArms military fighters line, is a bearded militant with a face-covering hood, a tiny toy assault rifle, a little grenade launcher and plastic bombs that can be attached to an explosives belt.

The character is called "Bandit — Mr. White" and sells for $14.

The jarring toy has outraged the British Muslim organization known as the Ramadhan Foundation, which called the figurine "absolutely disgusting," according to Sky News.

The foundation's chief executive, Mohammed Shafiq, complained that the toy is "glorifying terrorism."

Looks like our kids can now play good guy vs. terrorist instead of cowboys and indians. Good to have a company supporting this for our us!

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Some more toys from the same company:

http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/Covert_Pack_Gallery_3.jpg

http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/Zombie_Pack_Gallery_1.jpg

http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/RPG_Gallery_6.jpg

http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/LE-Silver_Pack_Gallery_2.jpg

http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/Mega_Pack_Gallery_1.jpg

http://brickarms.com/Images2/FreeGuns_2008.jpg

http://brickarms.com (http://brickarms.com/)


-S

[OneToughHerring]

Very wholesome stuff, I'm sure US kids will love all that. :nope:

[Letum]

Ahh! Lego! Happy memories.
Oh the innocence of youth......oh...wait...

[SUBMAN1]

I'll take Red Beard over your cheap gun loons fake Lego anyday :smug:

http://www.minifigs.net/webpage/images/pirates/Captain_Red_Beard_with_Skull.jpg
Ahh! Lego! Happy memories.
Oh the innocence of youth......oh...wait...
Very wholesome stuff, I'm sure US kids will love all that. :nope:

Is Mikhayl the only one here that isn't a panzy? Kids have for ages played cowboys and indians, or army men, or whatever. The type of mentality I see here is of countries that have no capability to defend their own culture in the future. How many of you grew up without plastic army men, or something similar? If you say 'I didn't', I don't believe you.

Maybe you have your sons play with doll houses these days. Might explain some of our problems with society.

And Mikhayl, you remember the first Indian Jones movie where the sword guy does all his fancy moves? :D :p You know where i'm going with that! :yep:

-S

[Letum]

Cowboys and Indians, Rozzers and robbers, James Bond, Germans and Tommies are one thing.
Such games all have a certain innocence removed from reality.

Islamic terrorists lack that a little. It is a little perverse whilst people are still being
killed and mutilated on our news screens each day.

This on the other hand, is excellent!
http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/SpyBond_Gallery_1.jpg

[OneToughHerring]

Subman1,

by all means, have that stuff in the US. From what I hear about the violent crime levels over there the kids better be schooled in all that stuff early on.

[Frame57]

Oh to be a kid again....I used to build fortresses with lincoln logs and then pretend to infiltrate the fortress and blow them up with firecrackers or m-80's. I would play sniper with my GI Joe's by putting them in a tree or some other place and nail them with my pellet gun. Of course today theywould have a kid doing that in some shrinks office coaxing him into playing with an easy bake oven instead.

[subchaser12]

Are those parents in an uproar over GI Joe? Legos are just growing up, I mean how many times can you build a moon rover? The Lego people just got visited by the arms dealer.

I grew up playing with GI Joes, watching violent movies, playing violent video games etc. I turned out just fine! Oh wait, no I didn't actually, bad example. I'm sure it wasn't the faults of all the violence or shooting my first .45 at age 5 (with help).

[conus00]

I have to react here because people's stupidity has no limits!!! :nope:
First of all nowhere in either in the description or the appearence of the figure is the word 'MUSLIM' mentioned. The figure is not 'dark skin' toned and is even named Mr. "WHITE"'. So all the muslims need to chill out but if they think that the bill fits, be my guests by all means.
Secondly, I understand that true muslim religion is peacefull one and there are militant groups who twist the religion to fit their bloody purposes. But being OUTRAGED by a TOY is an overreaction at the best. It would be like Christians being outragded by a toy of a medieval Crusader because they were killing infidels in the name of Christ.
PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!
I am sick about "political corectness" bullcrap here in the US and it is sad to find out that it is the same problem in Britain as well.

[XabbaRus]

I had action man and toy soldiers but preferred tanks and heavy stuff.

I did also have a wendy house too....lol

About that though, when I was three when it came to cut my cake, which I didn't want to cut I went mad, beat everyone up, threw people out of teh wendy house and shoved a boy off my trike...Wonder what that says about me?

[Sailor Steve]

He's not strapped with explosives - he's just carrying three grenades.

Besides, if you're going to have good guys you have to have bad guys to go with them. And while he resembles an Arab terrorist, he doesn't resemble all Arabs, just a terrorist. Should we be boycotting all the action movies made in the last two decades because the baddies have names like Mustafa or Khaleed?

This is just silly.

[Wolfehunter]

Now I know what to buy for my nephew this christmas...:rotfl:

I wonder if Achmed the dead terrorist comes included?:hmm::arrgh!:

[Letum]

Up next:
Irish bombers?
Basque separatists?

[Sailor Steve]

If it'll sell, why not?:)

[Letum]

If it'll sell, why not?:)

well, oddly enough, that I do agree with.

[longam]

It must sell real good.

http://brickarms.com/images2/Offline_20081204.jpg

[Stealth Hunter]

He's not strapped with explosives - he's just carrying three grenades.

You could build a Lego tower and tie an M80 to him, then detonate it once he gets past the defenses (maybe even glue a piece of paper onto his head that reads "Allahu Akbar!").

And while he resembles an Arab terrorist, he doesn't resemble all Arabs, just a terrorist.

He doesn't even look like a terrorist to me, excluding the turban. How many YELLOW Arabs do you know?:rotfl:

This is just silly.

But funny.:up:

[Biggles]

I'm surprised that noone has reacted to this yet...
http://brickarms.com/Images2/Products/WW2_German_SS_Major_2_Gallery_1.jpg
A Schutzstaffel officer? In LEGO?!

Oh I remember when LEGO was just harmless means of torture for parents feet... and stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43_jlNl0xA

You may argue as much as you want about that "Mr. White" should be considered a terrorist, you can't deny that the SS has not much to be proud of, at least not in the publics general view of what's right and wrong. You lot over in the States can let your kids play with these kinds of toys if you want, but I sure hope you'll keep it to yourself.:nope:

[Wolfehunter]

I don't understand the issue here. I used to play with green and brown and grey toy soldiers. Axis verses allies, cold war piece, Cow boys and indians, many more historical events. How many times I used to blow them up with fire crackers or melt them....:rock:

They should get over themselves. For crying out loud its a toy. LET BOYS PLAY! :yep:

[Digital_Trucker]

Now I know what to buy for my nephew this christmas...:rotfl:

I wonder if Achmed the dead terrorist comes included?:hmm::arrgh!:
Shut up! Or I keeeeeeeeeeeeeeel you! :D (Jeff Dunham rulez:rock:)

[Wolfehunter]

Now I know what to buy for my nephew this christmas...:rotfl:

I wonder if Achmed the dead terrorist comes included?:hmm::arrgh!:
Shut up! Or I keeeeeeeeeeeeeeel you! :D (Jeff Dunham rulez:rock:) :rotfl:Rocks :rock: Becareful dude I'll send walter on ya.:up:

[Captain Vlad]

I wonder how many imaginary stormtroopers, Nazis, aggressive alien species and ninjas I slew in my youth....

[Digital_Trucker]

Now I know what to buy for my nephew this christmas...:rotfl:

I wonder if Achmed the dead terrorist comes included?:hmm::arrgh!:
Shut up! Or I keeeeeeeeeeeeeeel you! :D (Jeff Dunham rulez:rock:) :rotfl:Rocks :rock: Becareful dude I'll send walter on ya.:up:
Oh, please don't! One Walter fart is considered a weapon of mass destruction:arrgh!: Besides, according to my wife, I AM Walter:rotfl:

[August]

Our Army man wars were epic. This was in the late 1960's early 70's and most of us had collections running into the hundreds. We'd spend hours setting them up in little bunkers and trenches in the dirt, then we'd take turns tossing rocks and wiping them out in a massive rock artillery barrage (we'd add the appropriate sound effects verbally). Last one with troops still standing wins.

As we grew older we'd build ship models adding stones as ballast and firecrackers into the hulls. We'd anchor them in a small pond and flick lit matches at them until they'd catch fire and eventually explode into pieces once the flames reached the "magazine".

Hollywood special effects had nothing on our youthful imaginations... :up:

[Wolfehunter]

Very true August... Models like my Bismark had a reenactment of battle in the tub with life fireworks and hull battle damage....:/\\x: Then she sunk...

Two weeks to build and 2 hours to prepare then 2 sec to destroy!:D

Or my old RC fighter planes true crash dives....:rotfl: My piloting skills where questionable...:o

As we get older so do the toy choices and level of extreme fun...:up:

[Rilder]

The stuff on this brickarms site would be good for a game of brikwars.:cool: http://www.brikwars.com/

[SUBMAN1]

Up next:
Irish bombers?
Basque separatists?Well, we at least found someone to bake a cake for us in his doll house when we go about fighting terrorists with our Lego's!

Subman1,

by all means, have that stuff in the US. From what I hear about the violent crime levels over there the kids better be schooled in all that stuff early on. Oh wait, we have two! How nice!

Does OneToughHearing stand for one that was overbaked and is just dead on the pan? I think so. It is probably hard as a rock after being left in the doll house oven for so long!

-S

[A Very Super Market]

I believe I went through several packs of army men each week, blowing most of my money on them and the firecrackers I used to obliterate the poor guys. I find that the media tends to take a single example of a complete psycho and then tie whatever his hobbies were to serial killing. Its a bit like the outcry about violent video games, which about half the world plays without cannibalizing their grandparents. If this was true, I would have killed 60 people by the time I was 7

Still, its a different matter with the, uh.. Brickarms guys, the army men I played with were rather generic with the only difference being their color (green and darker green). These guys are pretty specific, and little kids really don't know who to make the hero. I would not want to see my kid glorifying the Schutzstaffel, but thats really just your perspective. The kid doesn't know that he is making the (just about) worst human beings in history "save the day", so it isn't preaching Jihad or genocide.


Then again, the whole thing is pretty irrelevant because, well...whose kid would be buying mail-order Brickarms rather than just getting Lego from Toys 'R Us.

edit: On second thought, would anyone buy this?

[Rilder]

edit: On second thought, would anyone buy this?

I would.

Legos are awesome no matter the age.

[A Very Super Market]

This thread made me go find my old Lego collection.

...I think I'll be playing with them well in to the night

[Stealth Hunter]

Um... yeah, the closest game I had to army men was "clod wars" with my brothers.

As you have already assumed, I should imagine, our ammunition consisted of dirt and rocks.

That got painful, fast, but it was still fun... until someone hit someone else in the head.

[Frame57]

We need to market a suicide bomber, maybe for GI Joe or another. It can be safe too, it could be spring loaded to pop apart kind of like the rockem sockem robots heads that would pop up when struck.:up:

[SUBMAN1]

...edit: On second thought, would anyone buy this?Yes. There are still sane people left in the world. See for yourself:

-S




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[Biggles]

I guess the meaning of the word "sane" is relative then.

[A Very Super Market]

Maybe there are thousands of people with a dire need for a Jihadist Lego figurine.

[Zachstar]

While I see no reason to ban it. (If a parent is dumb enough to buy this for the kids. The kids are screwed up already) It is in low taste and unneeded.

What are kids going to do? Pretend the toy is setting IEDs to blow up a lego convoy?

It is not just an insult to one side but a horrifying element in the face of the many families who have lost loved ones to this war.

Sadly this uproar will only increase sales.

[Aramike]

Oh, this is rich. People who demand realism in their games of blowing up ships and other things with high explosives take issue with a Lego character armed to the teeth.

Let me ask this: would any of you also object if it were an American GI armed with an M16 and grenades?

I don't get why some people are so sensitive as far as Muslim extremists are involved. People DO know that hating terrorists does not equate to hating Muslims, right??? :cool:

[Wolfehunter]

Let kids create their own fantasies. Its not real Zachstar. Is it wrong for a child to rollplay? Can't he build a city of legos and then have a lego bomber plane drop a lego nuke to vaporize the lego city and have a lego fallout?

Do you really believe that boy will grow up to a man working for the military in a nuclear silo with his ichy trigger finger on the red button? Because its his dream to blow up things like cities? I doubt it.

Zachstar looking at your statement we shouldn't even be playing SH3 because it will offend certain people also maybe someone will loose it and start shooting real torpedo's at merchant ships somewhere in the ocean? Lets not forget many of us lost family and friend in the last two great wars.

A childs mind isn't the same as and adults. They don't see the world the same as us. Plus a childs life is short in terms with living as and adult for most people.:hmm: Let them play. They will grow up soon enough and see the world in its true colours. ;)

Then they will play paintball or Call of Duty IX hehehe. :up:

[A Very Super Market]

Well, only adults are going to buy this, and they will know its in bad taste. Kind of the only reason to buy it. So you can tell your friends about it.

Rather insensitive now that I think of it, but its just a cheap gimmick.

edit: Whoops, I guess my post seems rather short compared to the last one.

[Zachstar]

Wolf looking at your reply it appears to me that you have not thought too much about this.

Using SH3 is a VERY bad example BTW. SH3 is a simulation of war and unless you are spending your days unrealistically attacking hospital ships I do not see how anyone could be offended,

Tell me this? What would you rather do? Play SH3 in front of a survivor of a submarine attack or send one of these lego figures to a mother who lost her son to a terrorist?

Not so simple now is it? Now it becomes difficult as you would not want to do something so horrid as to remind them of their loss in such a pathetic way.

As for children? If you want them playing "Blow the GI toy up with the terrorist toy" You go right ahead but don't expect me to have any respect for the parent who lets such happen. Especially in a middle of a war.

[Aramike]

Wolf looking at your reply it appears to me that you have not thought too much about this.

Using SH3 is a VERY bad example BTW. SH3 is a simulation of war and unless you are spending your days unrealistically attacking hospital ships I do not see how anyone could be offended,

Tell me this? What would you rather do? Play SH3 in front of a survivor of a submarine attack or send one of these lego figures to a mother who lost her son to a terrorist?

Not so simple now is it? Now it becomes difficult as you would not want to do something so horrid as to remind them of their loss in such a pathetic way.

As for children? If you want them playing "Blow the GI toy up with the terrorist toy" You go right ahead but don't expect me to have any respect for the parent who lets such happen. Especially in a middle of a war.So do we take Grand Theft Auto games off of the shelf because the widow of a slain cop objects?

The ultimate point is that, no matter what anyone does, creates, or believes, it is bound to be offensive to someone else.

Frankly, I find it odd that you see the potential of "blow the GI toy up with the terrorist toy" and don't see the "blow the terrorist toy up with the GI toy" side of things.

[Zachstar]

Hmm last time I checked GTA was purely a upper teen to adult game that is fully such. Not even attempting to make a case for children to play it.

I am not calling for them to be removed. I am just saying it is extremely poor taste and to see anyone actually defending children playing with it is frankly sickening.

Alas all I am doing tho is creating more potential sales for this disgusting thing so I'm out of this conversation.

[Aramike]

Hmm last time I checked GTA was purely a upper teen to adult game that is fully such. Not even attempting to make a case for children to play it.

I am not calling for them to be removed. I am just saying it is extremely poor taste and to see anyone actually defending children playing with it is frankly sickening.

Alas all I am doing tho is creating more potential sales for this disgusting thing so I'm out of this conversation.The intended target for an item isn't what matters. Sure, GTA is for upper-teens to adults. Just like cigarettes. We know how that works, don't we?

But a Lego character isn't even graphically demonstrating violence. I suspect most kids would find the terrorist to be a similar character to, say, Cobra in GI Joe. Or should we just remove bad guys altogether?

[Foxtrot]

I would like to see a Lego rapist model

[Frame57]

I would like to see a Lego rapist modelOr how about a Lego cannibal?:D

[Wolfehunter]

Wolf looking at your reply it appears to me that you have not thought too much about this.

Using SH3 is a VERY bad example BTW. SH3 is a simulation of war and unless you are spending your days unrealistically attacking hospital ships I do not see how anyone could be offended,

Tell me this? What would you rather do? Play SH3 in front of a survivor of a submarine attack or send one of these lego figures to a mother who lost her son to a terrorist?

Not so simple now is it? Now it becomes difficult as you would not want to do something so horrid as to remind them of their loss in such a pathetic way.

As for children? If you want them playing "Blow the GI toy up with the terrorist toy" You go right ahead but don't expect me to have any respect for the parent who lets such happen. Especially in a middle of a war.You know what Zachstar, maybe your right. maybe I didn't really think on it much. Maybe I don't really care. For me a toy is a toy is a toy. Ether a kid gets it or not isn't the issue here.:nope:

But the ones who seem to bitch a great deal about it are the muslin? They seem to care? Why?:hmm:

Also I wouldn't play SH3 in front of war vet unless he asked. For a widows son I wouldn't give a toy like that unless his mother asked it. ;)

[A Very Super Market]

I would like to see a Lego rapist modelOr how about a Lego cannibal?:D

If you wanted that stuff, order the Lego "Hannibal Lecter" set!

[Stealth Hunter]

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