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Skybird
12-13-08, 03:42 AM
This says more about the tactical situation on the ground than a thousand analytical comments.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article5327683.ece


The West is indirectly funding the insurgency in Afghanistan thanks to a system of payoffs to Taleban commanders who charge protection money to allow convoys of military supplies to reach Nato bases in the south of the country.
Contracts to supply British bases and those of other Western forces with fuel, supplies and equipment are held by multinational companies.
However, the business of moving supplies from the Pakistani port of Karachi to British, US and other military contingents in the country is largely subcontracted to local trucking companies. These must run the gauntlet of the increasingly dangerous roads south of Kabul in convoys protected by hired gunmen from Afghan security companies.
The Times has learnt that it is in the outsourcing of convoys that payoffs amounting to millions of pounds, including money from British taxpayers, are given to the Taleban


"Trapped in the Afghan maze."

Personally, I find the mere fact that the military these days does no longer supplies itself or runs the transportation, but engages private contractors to supply them, hair-raising.

Reece
12-13-08, 04:17 AM
That's down right scary!!:eek: Even worse than Australia selling the Electricity commision to China, if we went to war with them they would turn off our power ... Damn, no more Subsim!!:oops::lol:

Diopos
12-13-08, 08:19 AM
Interesting! A military effort without securing its supply lines! Time to "nationalise" military operational planning again! :hmm:

What can I say! :damn: :damn: :damn:

bookworm_020
12-14-08, 05:15 PM
You would think that they would see it as a great chance to do some damage to the Taleban, by getting them to comae and attack the convoys, they could bring them out in the open and do some damage to them? I guess they have other plans.....

That's down right scary!!:eek: Even worse than Australia selling the Electricity commision to China, if we went to war with them they would turn off our power ... Damn, no more Subsim!!:oops::lol:

Time to buy a generator!:yep:

subchaser12
12-15-08, 01:42 AM
So, can we arrest those involved for funding terrorists? That's exactly what they are doing.

Truth is stranger than fiction...

Kipparikalle
12-15-08, 02:26 AM
Metal Gear 4

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Skybird
12-15-08, 02:27 AM
So, can we arrest those involved for funding terrorists? That's exactly what they are doing.

Truth is stranger than fiction...
That is as likely as a check of whether or not the Christian western armies live by the principles outlined in the sermon on the mount. :lol:

August
12-15-08, 09:05 AM
So, can we arrest those involved for funding terrorists? That's exactly what they are doing.

Truth is stranger than fiction... That is as likely as a check of whether or not the Christian western armies live by the principles outlined in the sermon on the mount. :lol:

"Christian western armies" is just another fantasy you've created in your own mind.

Wolfehunter
12-15-08, 10:28 AM
I'm getting the impression that certain interests groups want the American soldier to really have a tough time winning this conflict. Its almost like their feeding the enemy to continue the war. :hmm:

Frame57
12-15-08, 11:50 AM
So, can we arrest those involved for funding terrorists? That's exactly what they are doing.

Truth is stranger than fiction... That is as likely as a check of whether or not the Christian western armies live by the principles outlined in the sermon on the mount. :lol:

"Christian western armies" is just another fantasy you've created in your own mind.This is the kind of character who would open the city gates for the invaders and offer himself to the sultan. Pathetic, but its explains his disdain for America and all that is American

VipertheSniper
12-15-08, 03:47 PM
So, can we arrest those involved for funding terrorists? That's exactly what they are doing.

Truth is stranger than fiction... That is as likely as a check of whether or not the Christian western armies live by the principles outlined in the sermon on the mount. :lol:

"Christian western armies" is just another fantasy you've created in your own mind.This is the kind of character who would open the city gates for the invaders and offer himself to the sultan. Pathetic, but its explains his disdain for America and all that is American

I don't know if I should start laughing or crying at both comments to Skybirds post. Especially Frame57's comment, knowing Skybirds stance towards Islam. And I think you'll find that the majority of the soldiers down in Afghanistan are Christian. I don't think I would call them "Christian western armies" tho.

baggygreen
12-15-08, 04:08 PM
I'm getting the impression that certain interests groups want the American soldier to really have a tough time winning this conflict. Its almost like their feeding the enemy to continue the war. :hmm:It is true, though not just for the american soldier - all of them.

I believe, way back in another time, this sort of behaviour was called treason, and punished harshly. Apparently not anymore.

Skybird
12-15-08, 06:32 PM
So, can we arrest those involved for funding terrorists? That's exactly what they are doing.

Truth is stranger than fiction... That is as likely as a check of whether or not the Christian western armies live by the principles outlined in the sermon on the mount. :lol:

"Christian western armies" is just another fantasy you've created in your own mind.This is the kind of character who would open the city gates for the invaders and offer himself to the sultan. Pathetic, but its explains his disdain for America and all that is American

I don't know if I should start laughing or crying at both comments to Skybirds post. Especially Frame57's comment, knowing Skybirds stance towards Islam. And I think you'll find that the majority of the soldiers down in Afghanistan are Christian. I don't think I would call them "Christian western armies" tho.

Already have been there.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125504

August
12-15-08, 06:44 PM
Already have been there.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125504

Wrong before and still wrong.

subchaser12
12-15-08, 10:06 PM
I believe, way back in another time, this sort of behaviour was called treason, and punished harshly. Apparently not anymore.

War profiteering was illegal too. Not anymore. *cough Blackwater, Haliburton, KBR, etc. *cough

baggygreen
12-15-08, 10:15 PM
Im not so sure of that one, I'm not fully versed in legal subjects. I do know that IBM maintained business with Nazi germany through the war however, and I don't think anything ever came from that...?

Nevertheless, arent Blackwater etc being used primarily because the US public don't want to send the troops that are needed, and so they're acting as a stopgap measure?

August
12-15-08, 10:17 PM
War profiteering was illegal too. Not anymore. *cough Blackwater, Haliburton, KBR, etc. *cough

Your bias is showing.

subchaser12
12-15-08, 10:20 PM
War profiteering was illegal too. Not anymore. *cough Blackwater, Haliburton, KBR, etc. *cough

Your bias is showing.

Bias? The new right wing answer to everything now. Well you all have 8 years to come up with a better arguement. The other one is propaganda.

Bad news responses are either labeled bias or enemy propaganda. You all are slacking.

August
12-15-08, 10:23 PM
War profiteering was illegal too. Not anymore. *cough Blackwater, Haliburton, KBR, etc. *cough
Your bias is showing.
Bias? The new right wing answer to everything now. Well you all have 8 years to come up with a better arguement. The other one is propaganda.

Bad news responses are either labeled bias or enemy propaganda. You all are slacking.

Oh come on now your fake outrage isn't fooling anyone...

subchaser12
12-15-08, 10:27 PM
Oh come on now your fake outrage isn't fooling anyone...

Rush Limbaugh is on the phone for you, he wants his buzzwords back when you are finished.

August
12-15-08, 10:39 PM
Oh come on now your fake outrage isn't fooling anyone...
Rush Limbaugh is on the phone for you, he wants his buzzwords back when you are finished.

Fake outrage is a Rusk Limbaugh buzzword? :roll:

Zachstar
12-15-08, 11:20 PM
Oh come on now your fake outrage isn't fooling anyone...
Rush Limbaugh is on the phone for you, he wants his buzzwords back when you are finished.
Fake outrage is a Rusk Limbaugh buzzword? :roll:

Yes. He uses it all the time.

Fake Outrage
Drivebys

etc...

subchaser12
12-15-08, 11:27 PM
Yes. He uses it all the time.

Fake Outrage
Drivebys

etc...

What's the driveby? I haven't listened to Rush in probably 7 years. Honestly if you have heard him for an hour that's all there is to him.

August
12-15-08, 11:40 PM
Oh come on now your fake outrage isn't fooling anyone...
Rush Limbaugh is on the phone for you, he wants his buzzwords back when you are finished.
Fake outrage is a Rusk Limbaugh buzzword? :roll:
Yes. He uses it all the time.

Fake Outrage
Drivebys

etc...

I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh since the 1990's but I doubt he invented the term.

Wolfehunter
12-16-08, 12:48 AM
I'm getting the impression that certain interests groups want the American soldier to really have a tough time winning this conflict. Its almost like their feeding the enemy to continue the war. :hmm:It is true, though not just for the american soldier - all of them.

I believe, way back in another time, this sort of behaviour was called treason, and punished harshly. Apparently not anymore.What I don't get is, with this knowledge and I believe many in the military would have suspect this is going before haven't done anything about it?

Like that scene in Iron man where Stark's sees his own weapons being used against his own people.

I wonder if something similar is going on here in the real world. :hmm: