The soup is not advised Sir

[Letum]

People not eating soup on a ship.

LiveLeak LINK (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aff_1227212607)

Well worth watching it all as the build-up makes it more fun.

For those with no time, skip to 4mins.

[Task Force]

I want to go on that ride.:D:rotfl: Id hate to be trying to use the toilet or getting a shower. Just imagine, getting a shower and this starts.:rotfl:

[Skybird]

That's why ships should obey speed limits.

[mapuc]

I want to go on that ride.:D:rotfl: Id hate to be trying to use the toilet or getting a shower. Just imagine, getting a shower and this starts.:rotfl:

Or shaving your self with an old razor

Markus

[Task Force]

Oah goody, that sounds like it would be fun.:lol:

[Etienne]

That's why ships should obey speed limits.

This isn't turning heel; it's definetly a swell roll. Decreasing speed will make it worst. There are no speed limits on the ocean, except for what's prescribed in the steering rules. (Maintain a safe speed; it's not so much a speed limit as its a guide line)

I'm thinking stabillizer or engine faillure. (Stabillizers don't work if the ship isn't making way through the water)

One of the things that alway amaze me about cruise ships is that they don't secure anything unless the deck officers get really annoyed and force the hotel staff to do something. You go on a cargo ship, the chairs, the TVs, the tools, everything down to the salsa bottle on the table is secured. Now, that might be excessive for a cruise ship, and quite frankly, that video wasn't too bad. Nothing big started flying. (Had to rodeo a car once - now that was sport.)

As for the other questions... Well, you either sit down to use the toilet (There's usually a handle nearby) or you do it in the shower. For showering, well, you try to avoid it unless you really have to, and then you use the handle. It never starts suddenly. (Well, from the point of view of someone who spends way too much time on ships. Passengers are a whole different beast.)

Turning heel or cargo shifting is different and unexpected, however, but that's usually just one lean and a recovery. Not that it can't cause damage or injury.

[Wolfehunter]

WOW that's insane. People where getting tossed around like toys.:o

I hope no children got hurt.:-?

[Skybird]

That's why ships should obey speed limits.

This isn't turning heel; it's definetly a swell roll. Decreasing speed will make it worst. There are no speed limits on the ocean, except for what's prescribed in the steering rules. (Maintain a safe speed; it's not so much a speed limit as its a guide line)
Having drowned your humour in your morning coffee today, eh? :lol:

[AntEater]

A stabilizer failure...
I allready wondered what could make a huge ship roll like that.
I mean to get such a motion inside a cruise ship it must've been quite a storm.

As perhaps one of the few here who has weathered a biscay winter storm on a square rigger I can only laugh at that though.
Even if I didn't laught back in 1999 when it took us days just to sort out our kit from the burst lockers.
The term "mess deck" was to be taken literally.

A real storm is a weird thing, like a 24/7 rollercoaster ride. Not to mention you get wet the very instant you go topsides.
Even if you don't get seasick anymore, you will barely eat anything because the galley is closed.
Cooks are actually the heroes of every storm, because even making sandwiches can get quite difficult when your whole world is constantly rolling around 30-45 deg to each side.
Storm routine is a bit like being drunk, everything is struggle.

Found this one of a 143 missile boat in rough seas (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b7e_1179166099)
You can hear the order "all stop!" just before they plough into the big wave.

[Skybird]

Found this one of a 143 missile boat in rough seas (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b7e_1179166099)
You can hear the order "all stop!" just before they plough into the big wave.

Just curious - can the gun, if radar- and computer-controlled, fire with precision under such circumstances? Is there some compensation, like stabilisation for tank guns when the tank goes into rough terrain and fires on the move? does it even make sense if the target is popping up and down with the waves?

[AntEater]

Gun stabilization was invented for ships and adapted for tanks later.
Stabilized battleship guns were allready around in WW1.
A 76mm OTO mount won't work in that kind of seas, I think.
Maybe in direct fire mode at short ranges, but not ballistically or anti-air.
These waves are just too big to compensate.
Strangely enough, stabilization moved from big guns to small guns.

[Skybird]

Strangely enough, stabilization moved from big guns to small guns.
Not strange at all. Big guns = big, heavy ships = big mass = slow (though powerful) momentum. A battleship may lay relatively calm in a rough sea that would make a dinghi swinging left and right and up and down like a tabletennis ball.

[AntEater]

Big guns do not always mean big ships, stabiliziation is very important for AA guns.
The 40mm Hazemeyer Bofors mount was the first stabilized AA gun, a dutch invention taken over by the RN and the USN in WW2.

I read somewhere that the old battleships were designed not to negate the movement of the sea, but to translate it in long smooth, rolling motions which were better for the gun and fire control stabilizing systems than shorter more abrupt motions.
So a 35,000 battleship actually rolled MORE than it could have...
But that is most likely not an option for a cruise ship.
Also, it took until after WW2 before active stabiliziation of the ship itself was perfected.
Active systems, either finns or equalizing tanks, were allready put into use before WW2, but were mostly so bad they made things worse.

[August]

A stabilizer failure...
I allready wondered what could make a huge ship roll like that.
I mean to get such a motion inside a cruise ship it must've been quite a storm.

As perhaps one of the few here who has weathered a biscay winter storm on a square rigger I can only laugh at that though.
Even if I didn't laught back in 1999 when it took us days just to sort out our kit from the burst lockers.
The term "mess deck" was to be taken literally.

A real storm is a weird thing, like a 24/7 rollercoaster ride. Not to mention you get wet the very instant you go topsides.
Even if you don't get seasick anymore, you will barely eat anything because the galley is closed.
Cooks are actually the heroes of every storm, because even making sandwiches can get quite difficult when your whole world is constantly rolling around 30-45 deg to each side.
Storm routine is a bit like being drunk, everything is struggle.

Found this one of a 143 missile boat in rough seas (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b7e_1179166099)
You can hear the order "all stop!" just before they plough into the big wave.

Just reading your post is making me queasy... :D

[mapuc]

The video was somehow funny

It made me wonder thou

1. Haven't the captain and he's crew got any weather update?

2. If so why didn't he or she find an alternate route?

Always think of the passengers safety and comfort.

Markus

[Etienne]

The video was somehow funny

It made me wonder thou

1. Haven't the captain and he's crew got any weather update?

2. If so why didn't he or she find an alternate route?

Always think of the passengers safety and comfort.


1. They do. Trust me, they do.

2. They did.

3. That's all they ever do.

But then, the stabillizers or the engines failed. (That's my evaluation of the video, anyway.)

[mapuc]

The video was somehow funny

It made me wonder thou

1. Haven't the captain and he's crew got any weather update?

2. If so why didn't he or she find an alternate route?

Always think of the passengers safety and comfort.


1. They do. Trust me, they do.

2. They did.

3. That's all they ever do.

But then, the stabillizers or the engines failed. (That's my evaluation of the video, anyway.)

Thank you for the answer
I postet this video on a danish forum and a person there wrote that if this was a huge storm in the caribian it's would be very difficult to avoid it. IF you are bound to a harbour in the mexican golf etc.

Markus

[AntEater]

Problem is, these cruise ships are built like Hotels internally, not like ships.
Lots of loose stuff around. I suppose such a thing wouldn't have happend even on the France or the QU2, much less on the Bremen or the Queen Mary (1).

I never understood what is so great about going to sea in a floating mixture of a shopping mall and a casino.

[Task Force]

Problem is, these cruise ships are built like Hotels internally, not like ships.
Lots of loose stuff around. I suppose such a thing wouldn't have happend even on the France or the QU2, much less on the Bremen or the Queen Mary (1).

I never understood what is so great about going to sea in a floating mixture of a shopping mall and a casino.

Ya know, I never have understood that myself.:hmm:

[nikimcbee]

Great find letum! my inlaws want to go a cruise next year. :o Time to mess with their heads...



More cruiseship fun.

Skipper!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUqt2acbm8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oao5hI5WOc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqR4H60kZ48&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvtwo2ugwU8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UaM2RIvFTs&feature=related



ooh, this is going to be sooo much fun. I need to brush up on my titanic facts...:doh: