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Zachstar
11-18-08, 01:57 AM
https://publicaffairs.llnl.gov/news/news_releases/2008/NR-08-11-03.html

LIVERMORE, Calif. – Take a gold sample the size of the head of a push pin, shoot a laser through it, and suddenly more than 100 billion particles of anti-matter appear.
The anti-matter, also known as positrons, shoots out of the target in a cone-shaped plasma “jet.”
This new ability to create a large number of positrons in a small laboratory opens the door to several fresh avenues of anti-matter research, including an understanding of the physics underlying various astrophysical phenomena such as black holes and gamma ray bursts.


This is a HOLY ****! Moment!

Why you ask? Well obviously right now it cant do much besides research but it is only a matter of time now before it can be utilized in the production of industrial anti-matter at this rate.

Anti-matter is the key to exploration of the solar system. Just a gram is enough to get to mars in less than 30 days AND return. A few grams will get you to Pluto will no issues!

1480
11-18-08, 02:05 AM
Zachstar, I'm not trying to be a rectal duct but, if it is anti-matter, what will contain it?

FIREWALL
11-18-08, 03:04 AM
I don't care.... Just make me a Death-Ray and I can control the Earth. :hulk: <----[ I know it doesn't look like an Alien ] :-?

Zachstar
11-18-08, 03:21 AM
Zachstar, I'm not trying to be a rectal duct but, if it is anti-matter, what will contain it?

Electromagnets

joegrundman
11-18-08, 03:37 AM
Zachstar, I'm not trying to be a rectal duct but, if it is anti-matter, what will contain it?

you put it in an anti-matter jar

cj95
11-18-08, 04:27 AM
Zachstar, I'm not trying to be a rectal duct but, if it is anti-matter, what will contain it?

you put it in an anti-matter jar


First you gotta empty out the anti matter pickles from the jar....wash it out real good too, or your antimatter particles will smell like pickles.:p

baggygreen
11-18-08, 04:37 AM
wow.

just wow!

joegrundman
11-18-08, 05:04 AM
And another thing is that this means gold could be the vital source of interstellar fuel - good thing we've been so busy hoarding it, it might come in useful now!

Fish
11-18-08, 10:15 AM
Anti-matter is the key to exploration of the solar system. Just a gram is enough to get to mars in less than 30 days AND return. A few grams will get you to Pluto will no issues!

How does that work? :-?

Raptor1
11-18-08, 10:21 AM
Anti-matter is the key to exploration of the solar system. Just a gram is enough to get to mars in less than 30 days AND return. A few grams will get you to Pluto will no issues!
How does that work? :-?

Vell, Anti-Matter, when collided with Matter, will produce a 100% Matter-Energy conversion, which means that you get a whole lot of energy for a very small amount of material

Atleast, I think...

baggygreen
11-18-08, 04:06 PM
That too is how I understand it raptor =)

SteamWake
11-18-08, 04:13 PM
Anti-matter is the key to exploration of the solar system. Just a gram is enough to get to mars in less than 30 days AND return. A few grams will get you to Pluto will no issues!
How does that work? :-?

Vell, Anti-Matter, when collided with Matter, will produce a 100% Matter-Energy conversion, which means that you get a whole lot of energy for a very small amount of material

Atleast, I think...

Yea but how would someone survive those kind of forces? Mars in 30 days? What kind of speeds are you talking about? Accellearation? Decelaration?

Seems a bit pie in the sky to me.

Heres a hint... Mars is approximatly 120,000,000 miles from earth.

Zachstar
11-18-08, 05:41 PM
Mars in 30 days is no biggie if you are accelerating part of the way.

Think of the push the astronauts felt as the 3rd stage boosted them to the moon except for alot longer.

We are not talking about 9gs here.

Even VASIMR can get you to mars in 30 days.

Zachstar
11-18-08, 05:41 PM
And another thing is that this means gold could be the vital source of interstellar fuel - good thing we've been so busy hoarding it, it might come in useful now!

Well it is gold for now. I am sure its only a matter of time before they can do it with just about anything.

FIREWALL
11-18-08, 05:46 PM
I don't care.... Just make me a Death-Ray and I can control the Earth. :hulk: <----[ I know it doesn't look like an Alien ] :-?


OK ! Then make it a Magnetic Anti Matter DeathRay gun. :p :rotfl:

Stealth Hunter
11-18-08, 07:14 PM
Anti-matter is the key to exploration of the solar system. Just a gram is enough to get to mars in less than 30 days AND return. A few grams will get you to Pluto will no issues!
How does that work? :-?

Vell, Anti-Matter, when collided with Matter, will produce a 100% Matter-Energy conversion, which means that you get a whole lot of energy for a very small amount of material

Atleast, I think...

Yea but how would someone survive those kind of forces? Mars in 30 days? What kind of speeds are you talking about? Accellearation? Decelaration?

Seems a bit pie in the sky to me.

Heres a hint... Mars is approximatly 120,000,000 miles from earth.

It's space... simply going around the Earth (orbiting it, anyway) automatically shifts you into speeds well over 10,000 mph.

It's really not as complicated as it seems to be for some people.

And traversing 120,000,000 miles of empty space is like a walk in the park when you take into account the sheer size of our little corner of the galaxy (let alone the universe). It's not at all impossible or far fetched. It's the future, and we must pursue it with whatever we can every waking moment of every single day.

baggygreen
11-18-08, 07:43 PM
It's space... simply going around the Earth (orbiting it, anyway) automatically shifts you into speeds well over 10,000 mph.

It's really not as complicated as it seems to be for some people.

And traversing 120,000,000 miles of empty space is like a walk in the park when you take into account the sheer size of our little corner of the galaxy (let alone the universe). It's not at all impossible or far fetched. It's the future, and we must pursue it with whatever we can every waking moment of every single day.

making people realise this has been impossible since I read this yesterday. Everyone I approach has a 'who cares' attitude.

Stealth Hunter
11-18-08, 07:56 PM
Sad to see such ignorance and misunderstanding.

FIREWALL
11-18-08, 08:04 PM
By my count, a couple more posts and you'll have a dozen eggheads in this carton. :know:

Task Force
11-18-08, 10:20 PM
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I like eggs.:rotfl:

Raptor1
11-18-08, 11:59 PM
Well, if there is no catch that prevents it from being mass-produced, used or something like that, that's indeed great news

Such a shame that only like...1 person I know around here who even realizes that antimatter isn't something out of a Sci-Fi movie

Zachstar
11-19-08, 02:56 AM
Sad to see such ignorance and misunderstanding.

Thank decades of lackluster space policy. If we had been serious about getting to mars we would have done this level of research into anti-matter decades ago.

Now because of how silly things on. The moment you mention anti matter you get people left and right thinking death rays and super bombs instead of future of space travel.

Hylander_1314
11-19-08, 10:50 AM
Zachstar,

I would prefer all technological advances go to expanding the betterment of mankind. I am very conservative in my thinking and ideals. Instead of designing and manufacturing things that will destroy our world I would rather see it go to things that would help make it possible to travel to other places we as a species could inhabit. To also possibly verify the theories of the physicists on the origin of the universe, and to look for other planets where life has taken a foothold. The latter to finally end the debate on whether life exists elsewhere in the universe, and our own galaxy.

longam
11-19-08, 11:24 AM
Well, if there is no catch that prevents it from being mass-produced, used or something like that, that's indeed great news

Such a shame that only like...1 person I know around here who even realizes that antimatter isn't something out of a Sci-Fi movie

So you mean dark star isn't real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKT7AKxnMJs&feature=related

Raptor1
11-19-08, 11:41 AM
Well, if there is no catch that prevents it from being mass-produced, used or something like that, that's indeed great news

Such a shame that only like...1 person I know around here who even realizes that antimatter isn't something out of a Sci-Fi movie
So you mean dark star isn't real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKT7AKxnMJs&feature=related

I said Science Fiction, not real Science

MothBalls
11-19-08, 12:03 PM
This is a HOLY ****! Moment!

I agree. Now that it can be created cheaply and repetitively, the next steps in research can begin. Once it can be controlled it has the potential to change the world.

I just hope the oil and car companies don't buy it up along with the patents, then bury it to protect their own interests like they have with so many other innovations. Add insult to injury, let them use bailout money to buy it.

baggygreen
11-19-08, 04:07 PM
This is a HOLY ****! Moment!

I agree. Now that it can be created cheaply and repetitively, the next steps in research can begin. Once it can be controlled it has the potential to change the world.

I just hope the oil and car companies don't buy it up along with the patents, then bury it to protect their own interests like they have with so many other innovations. Add insult to injury, let them use bailout money to buy it.Definition of irony right there:lol:

Zachstar
11-19-08, 04:23 PM
This is a HOLY ****! Moment!
I agree. Now that it can be created cheaply and repetitively, the next steps in research can begin. Once it can be controlled it has the potential to change the world.

I just hope the oil and car companies don't buy it up along with the patents, then bury it to protect their own interests like they have with so many other innovations. Add insult to injury, let them use bailout money to buy it.

This is not the 1990s where it was easy to bury technology. And besides I highly doubt they could spare the billions to get this tech locked down.

Besides anti-matter is never going to be allowed to be used by the common man. Even a simple mistake could lead to a street being leveled.

Fish
11-20-08, 05:05 PM
Talked to someone with some common sense. He says it's a hoax.:yep:

kiwi_2005
11-20-08, 05:49 PM
I recent watch a documentary on Anti Matter. As for anti matter or matter from one scientist own words this world we live in could be nothing but an illusion? :88)

I like this science stuff the more i read about it or watch some documentary the more interested i become. What really got me interested was when i first heard about parallel universes according to scientist Hugh Everett theory we all have another universe of our self - say i am thinking of going on a holiday i wake up and head off on holiday where in the parellel universe the other me would stay home and not go on that trip, i might miss out on that high paid job yet in the other universe i would get it. In layman's terms, this means that there is a very large, perhaps infinite, number of universes and that everything that could possibly happen in our universe (but doesn't) does happen in some other universe(s) And ya can't say its complete madness even if it does sound to science fiction scientists came up with it and more scientists are not denying the existence of parallel universes. Its either you define science as theories made up by a bunch of lunatics or these scientist with the use of mathematics have opened the window to whats reality and whats not... or something like that anyways i mean its universes, the unknown so its going to interest me. :)

Parellel Worlds, Parellel Lives: (Veoh documentary.)

At age 19, Mark Everett - better known as E, the frontman of geek-rock outfit Eels - ... found his scientist father Hugh Everett dead from a heart attack. Everett senior was the underacknowledged quantum physicist who first developed the theory of parallel universes. Now, 25 years after his father's death, Mark wants to get to know this emotionally absent savant who rarely spoke. He does this by interviewing his dad's friends and colleagues. It's a cathartic quest punctured with moments of raw sadness and deadpan witticisms from the cigar-smoking singer. But this isn't just a compelling family saga. It's a one-layman mission of scientific discovery.
Part 1
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15491416CPsP3prx

Part 2
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15491418TjtAqzfg

Fish
11-23-08, 04:57 PM
• Can we use antimatter to propel a car or a spaceship?
In principle, yes, but in practice it is very difficult. You all know that the Star Trek (http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/everyday/AM-everyday04.html)Spaceship Enterprise flies around powered by antimatter. But in reality, making antimatter is so difficult that it is hard to foresee it ever being used as a propellant fuel. In order to propel a matter spacecraft weighing several tons up to the speed of light, you would need an equal amount of antimatter and, using the present technology, it would take millions and millions of years to produce a sufficient amount.
However, if you had a gram of antimatter, you could drive your car for about 100.000 years!

http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/FAQ.html