View Full Version : The kiss that said it all....
AVGWarhawk
11-10-08, 12:00 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/10/ww2.photo.ap/index.html?iref=werecommend
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/kissing.jpg
SteamWake
11-10-08, 12:26 PM
My how times have changed...
If he tried that today he probably would have been slapped with a sexual harrasment case.
Todays headline "US soldier loses control after returning home from a senseless war"
AVGWarhawk
11-10-08, 12:37 PM
Yes, it would be sexual assault by today's standards.
Skybird
11-10-08, 01:52 PM
Is it a true shot? There is another famous one, which meanwhile has been found to have been staged. Or is it maybe even this one?
SteamWake
11-10-08, 01:53 PM
Is it a true shot? There is another famous one, which meanwhile has been found to have been staged. Or is it maybe even this one?
I believe that one is legit. Read the story linked to the anchor post. Even has the woman being kissed in it.
AVGWarhawk
11-10-08, 02:11 PM
Is it a true shot? There is another famous one, which meanwhile has been found to have been staged. Or is it maybe even this one?
Your thinking of Iwo Jimi and the Surybachi flag raising. I believe it was found to be staged as they wanted a larger flag on the makeshift pole.
Is it a true shot? There is another famous one, which meanwhile has been found to have been staged. Or is it maybe even this one?
Your thinking of Iwo Jimi and the Surybachi flag raising. I believe it was found to be staged as they wanted a larger flag on the makeshift pole.
But even tho that second flag raising was "staged", the men were not posed, they simply set up the flag and Rosenthal got the picture.
SteamWake
11-10-08, 02:20 PM
Is it a true shot? There is another famous one, which meanwhile has been found to have been staged. Or is it maybe even this one?
Your thinking of Iwo Jimi and the Surybachi flag raising. I believe it was found to be staged as they wanted a larger flag on the makeshift pole.
Its true the 'famous' version of that photo of the raising of the flag was staged, however Skybird is correct there is also a 'staged' version of this (kiss) shot as well.
Skybird
11-10-08, 02:25 PM
Is it a true shot? There is another famous one, which meanwhile has been found to have been staged. Or is it maybe even this one?
Your thinking of Iwo Jimi and the Surybachi flag raising. I believe it was found to be staged as they wanted a larger flag on the makeshift pole.
No-no, it was a kissing scene.
SteamWake
11-10-08, 02:45 PM
Alfred Eisenstaedt’s image of a sailor kissing a girl in a white dress in Times Square on VJ day was real. Robert Doisneau’s photograph of a couple kissing by the Hotel de Ville in Paris in 1950 was not.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/UlteriorModem/kiss.jpg
Source : http://blogs.photopreneur.com/worlds-most-infamous-staged-photos
Biggles
11-10-08, 02:51 PM
That first photo is most certainly not staged. Here is the same event, but in a different angle:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Kissing_the_War_Goodbye.jpg/568px-Kissing_the_War_Goodbye.jpg
And talking about now and then...well....that war had lasted for a long time, and the chances of getting killed in that war as an american soldier must have been much much higher than being killed today. So I sure'd be happy to know it's over.
Besides, the outcome after WWII was undoubtedly a victory, but if your boys come home today...would they be victorious?
SteamWake
11-10-08, 02:55 PM
But the question remains.... did he 'call' her the next day :p
Skybird
11-10-08, 04:18 PM
Alfred Eisenstaedt’s image of a sailor kissing a girl in a white dress in Times Square on VJ day was real. Robert Doisneau’s photograph of a couple kissing by the Hotel de Ville in Paris in 1950 was not.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/UlteriorModem/kiss.jpg
Source : http://blogs.photopreneur.com/worlds-most-infamous-staged-photos
That'S the one I meant.
bookworm_020
11-10-08, 09:55 PM
But the question remains.... did he 'call' her the next day :p
Depends if the father found out where he lived!;)
Pioneer
11-10-08, 10:42 PM
If memory of reading serves me correct,
The photo was originally taken on VP Day (Nov 11) following the unconditional surrender. At the time, crowds swarmed New York City and in an impromptu moment, a sailor grabbed a Nurse of the US Navy and kissed her. Photo was snapped.
Now, as I understand, neither of the kissers knew each other at that time, it was a "passing moment". They went their separate ways.
Sometime ago(?) the press went in search of the couple. They found the woman, but were unable to identify the sailor until maybe recently. Subsequently, an sculptor was commissioned and this statute was built and now stands in the shadow of the USS Midway, San Diego.
Unconditional Surrender Statute (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070211/images/met-bigkiss.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070211/news_1m11statuxol.html&h=287&w=430&sz=40&hl=en&start=12&usg=__3A6DjjxEJj5T6plILZ9klqgxxQs=&tbnid=8W9nqdyvAjdJXM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dunconditional%2Bsurrender%26gbv%3D2%2 6hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
The statute has been mooted to be be disassembled and moved to Times Square where both the kisses have agreed to be at the unveiling.
By coincidence, I was at the statute on Saturday morning for a dawn service. (No photos by request.)
HunterICX
11-11-08, 04:52 AM
Yes, it would be sexual assault by today's standards.
Aye, people have changed so much over these years.
I must say I'm quiet dissapointed how it turned out.
HunterICX
Skybird
11-11-08, 05:44 AM
Yes, it would be sexual assault by today's standards.
Aye, people have changed so much over these years.
I must say I'm quiet dissapointed how it turned out.
HunterICX
Pah, you just want your kisses for free and evade paying entertainment tax!
Sailor Steve
11-11-08, 04:35 PM
If memory of reading serves me correct,
The photo was originally taken on VP Day (Nov 11) following the unconditional surrender. At the time, crowds swarmed New York City and in an impromptu moment, a sailor grabbed a Nurse of the US Navy and kissed her. Photo was snapped.
The rest of your post sounds good, but memory doesn't serve you correct. Downunder you may have called it VP Day; here we called it VJ (Victory Japan) Day. But it wasn't anywhere close to November 11, which commemorates the signing of the 1918 armistice ending the FIRST World War. VJ Day was August 14, 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%E2%80%93J_day_in_Times_Square
Jimbuna
11-11-08, 05:19 PM
But the question remains.... did he 'call' her the next day :p
Which one of them lost their dentures :lol:
Pioneer
11-12-08, 04:37 AM
If memory of reading serves me correct,
The photo was originally taken on VP Day (Nov 11) following the unconditional surrender. At the time, crowds swarmed New York City and in an impromptu moment, a sailor grabbed a Nurse of the US Navy and kissed her. Photo was snapped. The rest of your post sounds good, but memory doesn't serve you correct. Downunder you may have called it VP Day; here we called it VJ (Victory Japan) Day. But it wasn't anywhere close to November 11, which commemorates the signing of the 1918 armistice ending the FIRST World War. VJ Day was August 14, 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%E2%80%93J_day_in_Times_Square
My mistake, memory mixed the wars.
I went looking for a link, this explains why I couldn't find one. Thank you.
My how times have changed...
Remember the days when victorius armies would charge through a city streets looting the place and taking whoever they please for a shag. :p
VJ Day was August 14, 1945
Yep. It is still a state holiday here in Rhode Island. The last state in the Union I believe to still celebrate it.
nikimcbee
11-12-08, 11:47 PM
My how times have changed...
Remember the days when victorius armies would charge through a city streets looting the place and taking whoever they please for a shag. :p
You mean the RedArmy?
bookworm_020
11-13-08, 12:22 AM
My how times have changed...
Remember the days when victorius armies would charge through a city streets looting the place and taking whoever they please for a shag. :p
You mean the RedArmy?
They may have been well noted about it, but you will find this exists in many cases of occupation. It doesn't matter who is occupying who, it happens even with the best of efforts to avoid it.
I was meaning more like the old style Pre gunpowder armies.
You know before ground combat sucked. :P
You know, planes without guns would be pretty awesome.
Dogfights with swords. :lol:
Yes, it would be sexual assault by today's standards.
and of course you wouldn't mind some hairy arsed sailor kissing you without asking...
Biggles
11-13-08, 03:46 PM
Yes, it would be sexual assault by today's standards.
and of course you wouldn't mind some hairy arsed sailor kissing you without asking...
I guess the people involved decided to overlook this and instead concentrate on the fact that the biggest war in human history was finally over. I'd say that it'd be something to celebrate.
BTW, he did run down the street, kissing several girls on the way, it's just this one that caught on film.
Jimbuna
11-14-08, 10:05 AM
So what is he then ?
A repeat offender ?
The lucky bugga :lol:
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