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XabbaRus
11-04-08, 01:25 PM
OK,
Since Neal has set up a poll for registered US subsim members, I thought it might be interesting to see how the non-us crowd would vote.
I have a good idea as to what it will be but hey why not.
I heard in the radio this morning that if the election was held in Scandinavia....
Obama would get 75% of the votes, 4% to McCain, 21% Undecided.
Jimbuna
11-04-08, 01:37 PM
5 votes and only 2 posts :hmm:
I'll wait a while :lol:
Funny, Ralph Nader is coming to speak at my university next week. I'm guessing he already knows he's not going to have anything more important to do after today :lol:
Predictable results ahoy!
SteamWake
11-04-08, 02:11 PM
Predictable results ahoy!
Really, besides whats the point? :-?
Predictable results ahoy!
Really, besides whats the point? :-?
No less of a point than the US-only poll, I think.
Seriously, why not? We can at least vote virtually. Not like we're any less interested in the election because we can't really vote.
Skybird
11-04-08, 02:33 PM
As a European I would prefer McCain, for if he goes off limits he can be easier refused to give him what he wants from europe.
If I were American, I would prefer Obama, for he would be better choice for very needed reforms and changes in "my" country.
As a private man hating to be put into a camp, I don't vote any of them. I would claim office myself and pragmatically chose my cabinet from people I see fit from both parties, not respecting this idiotic (and polarising) party separation.
So where to make my cross, eh?
In the end, Obama is much, much more conservative, than many Europeans think and many republicans are willing to recognise. I think many Europeans will rub their eyes in sobering-up and disillusionment in the coming four years. There will be some closer cooperation in some areas and a generally more civil tone in relations, but ongoing bitter separation if not confrontation in others. To assume that all of a sudden the US will move closer to EU positions in general, is one of the biggest misjudgement of Europe during the past 20 months.
As a European I would prefer McCain, for if he goes off limits he can be easier refused to give him what he wants from europe.
If I were American, I would prefer Obama, for he would be better choice for very needed reforms and changes in "my" country.
Funny, you remind me of some Russian friends who said that if Obama wins, it's a tactical victory for Russia because he'll be easier to deal with in direct diplomatic relations; however if McCain wins, it's a strategic victory for Russia because they expect Republican rule to bankrupt the US society into impotency to oppose Russian strategic interests, whereas through Obama's reforms they expect it to retain that capacity to oppose.
OK,
Since Neal has set up a poll for registered US subsim members, I thought it might be interesting to see how the non-us crowd would vote.
I have a good idea as to what it will be but hey why not.
Europe is in bed with Obama, so you shouldnt even bother.
Digital_Trucker
11-04-08, 05:06 PM
Europe is in bed with Obama, so you shouldnt even bother.
Don't let Michelle find out about that, or Europe is doomed:rotfl:
baggygreen
11-04-08, 05:52 PM
I heard in the radio this morning that if the election was held in Scandinavia....
Obama would get 75% of the votes, 4% to McCain, 21% Undecided.We had one on the radio on the way to work this morning.
71% said they didnt give a toss, 29% said OBH.
Shame the poll was rigged, they claimed not a single vote for Macca even though I knew of at least 3.
I'm looking forward to see what happens though.
pff, in bed. What, other people can't have an opinion?
Hey, we've been through this before.
For the record, I recall support for Obama being around the 85% mark in Russia.
AntEater
11-04-08, 06:43 PM
In Studivz, the german facebook clone, it was 95% Obama.
But whoever wins, I wouldn't want his job.
baggygreen
11-04-08, 06:55 PM
But whoever wins, I wouldn't want his job.QFT
FIREWALL
11-04-08, 07:05 PM
The big media conspiracy struck even subsim, which would have you believe that US voters have to choose between a turd and a douche only, when actually they could well vote for a dimwit, a dork, an asshat and many many more :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_presidential_candidates, _2008
I voted this best and funniest post. :rotfl: Good
CaptainHaplo
11-04-08, 07:24 PM
I didn't vote as it wouldnt be right seeing as I did vote in the other one. What I want to point out though - isnt it odd that other people get all "involved" in our elections? Not just with "well if it was here so in so would win" - but also going so far as to give money to one candidate - violating US law? Now I am not saying anyone here would do so - but look at the china connection with both Obama and the previous Democrat, Clinton. Look at the adoration Europe has with Obama - love from a continent that is moving more and more toward a single government (though Britain seems to be holding that back). Europe has become more and more socialist in governing themselves over the years, and so it is no suprise that those who do not share the American set of values would prefer someone that leans more toward "their" way.
I don't say this as an indictment - just an observation to consider when people claim that Obama is "more conservative" than most think, or that he isnt a "socialist".
Skybird
11-04-08, 07:32 PM
You don't think that the different interest intensities have something to do with that the US more affects the rest of the globe, than for example a european nation affects the US...!? If I would set up a series of threads about internal german elections, the simple truth is that most people in america would not give a damn for it. We just had a political drama in Hessen, with lies and party rebellion - do you care at all? Be honest, you don't. Germany is cars, Sauerkraut, Bratwurst, Bier and Third Reich, and that pretty much sums it up. You can see it in the occasional Germany-threads I had launched over time - the interest always was limited, and what was there seem to have coming more from non-Americans than Americans.
And after the past 48 hours i must say i find this constant extremist polarisation "it's either american conservative model or it must be socialism" a bit tiresome. It's in several threads now, ad nauseum. Man, it borders paranoia, i sometimes think.
Yes, we get involved in the American elections, but mostly because America is involved alot of places. I dont see why thats a mystery.
Jimbuna
11-05-08, 03:37 AM
Congratulations to President Obama.
A new era in politics.....or just more of the same :hmm:
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