Dead Space, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3 - Opinions Please!

[danlisa]

Can I have your opinions on these titles? Dead Space, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3

Primarily, storyline, immersion, re-playabilty, online & built in features are of importance.

I am not bothered about Performance, as I know my hardware can handle it.

I have been hearing good & bad things about Dead Space & Far Cry 2 but if I am honest, they don't come from people with adultly informed opinions.;)

If you have either/all of these (I know FO3 ain't out yet) please offer your thoughts.

Thanks.:up:

[Dowly]

Dont own Dead Space.. YET. But as for Far Cry 2, it was a great surprise TBH.

I liked:
- True open gameworld, you can go where you want.
- Performance vs. quality factor is great on the Dunia engine, nothing like Crysis, it runs smoothly.
- Huge amounts of weapons, something like 30+ or so
- Sounds are great, especially the weapons sound very cool. Not the Hollywood stuff, but more of a "mechanic" sounds, yet ballsy.
- Gore. You see your enemies screaming and crying on the ground, trying to get up after a short burst from your gun, and of course, you can go and shoot them to the head with a colt 1911 if you feel like it. :p Also, when your health bar goes down so you have only one bar remaining, you see a special animation when you press the heal button (this varies from fixing dislocated arm/leg, pulling a piece of branch out of your body, digging out a bullet etc. all with nice a crizzly sound effects.).
- Immersion. Your head is "locked" to your body all the time, there's no teleportation to a vehicle, you actually climb on board. Same for everything you can think of except for sleeping.
- Lot to do, the gameworld is huge and it gets even bigger when you progress. There's lots of side missions to keep you busy aswell as the mainstory missions, where you usually have 2 options to choose from.
- FIRE! Ooooh, it's so darn cool!

Things I didnt like:
- THE FRICKING MALARIA!!! When the game starts, you have malaria. You need to make special missions when you're out of pills to get more, or else you will start getting blurry screen etc. and finally you pass out and are carried to the nearest doctor (who by the way doesnt even give you more pills!)
- Can be boring at times, the missions are the usual "Go to the other side of the map, kill one guy and come back".

That's what I can remember atm. I'm sure Stabiz will come shortly to give his views on it.

I'll get back to you prolly tomorrow about FO3 & DS. *whistles innocently* :D

[HunterICX]

I would drop Dead Space if you go for the PC variant:

but in General: its a usual EA game, and comes with the horrible EA sh!tpackage -

from Wikipedia:
The PC version of Dead Space uses the same SecuRom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecuRom) Copy Protection scheme as Spore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore) and Mass Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect) which requires both online authentication and limits the number of times a user can install the game to five. Dead Space has received mixed reviews by gamers regarding DRM. [15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space_(video_game)#cite_note-EA_DRM-14)As of October 29, 2008 out of 46 reviews it has an average rating of one and a half stars

Fall Cry 2 seems to be in good taste around here. seems worth to check out.

HunterICX

[Dowly]

I would drop Dead Space if you go for the PC variant:

but in General: its a usual EA game, and comes with the horrible EA sh!tpackage -

from Wikipedia:
The PC version of Dead Space uses the same SecuRom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecuRom) Copy Protection scheme as Spore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore) and Mass Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect) which requires both online authentication and limits the number of times a user can install the game to five. Dead Space has received mixed reviews by gamers regarding DRM. [15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space_%28video_game%29#cite_note-EA_DRM-14)As of October 29, 2008 out of 46 reviews it has an average rating of one and a half stars
Fall Cry 2 seems to be in good taste around here. seems worth to check out.

HunterICX

Far Cry 2 has SecuRom aswell. :p

Personally, I've been waiting for DS. Doom 3 was good, but not great. I'm hoping DS get's more out of the horror part than going into a mindless shooting with only scary part being some 3 eyed twut jumping from around a corner and going "BOOOO!!!".

[Raptor1]

I've heard many good things about FC2 (as opposed to say, Crysis :roll:), so I will probably get it too as soon as Fallout 3 comes out around here (next week, I think)

I won't be getting Dead Space, probably, I've had it up to...here...with that DRM at the moment

EDIT: But doesn't FarCry 2 have the ability to uninstall the game and get your activation back?

[Dowly]

EDIT: But doesn't FarCry 2 have the ability to uninstall the game and get your activation back?

AFAIK, yes.

[HunterICX]

Far Cry 2 has SecuRom aswell. :p

Personally, I've been waiting for DS. Doom 3 was good, but not great. I'm hoping DS get's more out of the horror part than going into a mindless shooting with only scary part being some 3 eyed twut jumping from around a corner and going "BOOOO!!!".

***NEWS FLASH***

Dead Space is DOOM 4

ID software has gone into waters with EA games
spotted the similarities yet? Mars is traded for a Space ship in dire need of help, Alien virus turns crew into mutated monsters

HunterICX

[Dowly]

I shall judge it when I play it. :yep: Tho, I have to confess, I felt bit unease seeing it was made by EA. :-?

[danlisa]

Don't make this about DRM, I couldn't give 2 sh*t's about it.

Base your opinion on the merit of the game only.:up:

Nice write up Dowly.:up:
What's FC2's Map Editor like?
Also, what do think about losing all your weapons etc on the second play through?

[Dowly]

What's FC2's Map Editor like?
Also, what do think about losing all your weapons etc on the second play through?
The map editor is VERY simple, but sadly, you can only make multiplayer maps with it. :-? Anyways, dont know if you've ever played the simcity games, the map editor is almost identical to Sim City's terrain editor. Just select the tool/texture and paint. :up:

EDIT: Ow yeh, and it's not the "full" editor the devs used. It's very simplificied version, there's no triggers, particles or anything you can do with it. Just the basic stuff like mountains, ground textures, roads and trees.

As for losing everything, wouldnt know, I'm only 50% thru the first play through. :p But if that's the case, it would suck, badly. You do missions for the arms dealer to unlock new items, the missions are piece of cake, but it's the distances that make them boring and time consuming.

[AJ!]

Yeah i would love to know what dead space is like. I do like a good horror game and DS looks as gory as they come :D

[stabiz]

Dont own Dead Space.. YET. But as for Far Cry 2, it was a great surprise TBH.

I liked:
- True open gameworld, you can go where you want.
- Performance vs. quality factor is great on the Dunia engine, nothing like Crysis, it runs smoothly.
- Huge amounts of weapons, something like 30+ or so
- Sounds are great, especially the weapons sound very cool. Not the Hollywood stuff, but more of a "mechanic" sounds, yet ballsy.
- Gore. You see your enemies screaming and crying on the ground, trying to get up after a short burst from your gun, and of course, you can go and shoot them to the head with a colt 1911 if you feel like it. :p Also, when your health bar goes down so you have only one bar remaining, you see a special animation when you press the heal button (this varies from fixing dislocated arm/leg, pulling a piece of branch out of your body, digging out a bullet etc. all with nice a crizzly sound effects.).
- Immersion. Your head is "locked" to your body all the time, there's no teleportation to a vehicle, you actually climb on board. Same for everything you can think of except for sleeping.
- Lot to do, the gameworld is huge and it gets even bigger when you progress. There's lots of side missions to keep you busy aswell as the mainstory missions, where you usually have 2 options to choose from.
- FIRE! Ooooh, it's so darn cool!

Things I didnt like:
- THE FRICKING MALARIA!!! When the game starts, you have malaria. You need to make special missions when you're out of pills to get more, or else you will start getting blurry screen etc. and finally you pass out and are carried to the nearest doctor (who by the way doesnt even give you more pills!)
- Can be boring at times, the missions are the usual "Go to the other side of the map, kill one guy and come back".

That's what I can remember atm. I'm sure Stabiz will come shortly to give his views on it.

I'll get back to you prolly tomorrow about FO3 & DS. *whistles innocently* :D

I`ll just second this. I am one of those bitter old (well, thirty:)) men who hate all new games because they ... suck. FarCry 2 could be better, and it probably will be once modders tear it apart, but like Dowly I was surprised to find that I liked one of the blockbuster titles. I have spent 23 hours in Africa now, and I am not fed up yet.

If you liked FarCry up until the monsters came (I actually liked killing them too, hehe) you will like this one as well. No fake freedom like in Crysis, and very immersive enviroment. + 1090 points for pyro stuff, it never gets old. When a molotov or flare gun cheat is available I am going to torch the entire continent.:rotfl:

-100 points for no fire mode switch and bulletholes disappearing in bodies

[Rilder]

Processor requirments are too high on all counts.

[kiwi_2005]

Far cry 2 wont be getting till i do another upgrade I think she will run on the pc specs i have now but with detail not on full and i want to play this game with detail on full! :damn:

Fallout 3 arrives here in 3 days time :damn:

Dead space um never heard of it :88)

[SUBMAN1]

Installing Fallout 3 right now. DVD is 5.51 GB or so. Probably means it unpacks to 8 to 10 GB.

-S

[stabiz]

Processor requirments are too high on all counts.

Not even true, if you look at FarCry2`s requirements. I read somewhere that a 2,6 ghz dual core was minimum, and I run it pretty much maxed out on a "old" 2,4 ghz dual core.

[SUBMAN1]

Processor requirments are too high on all counts.
Not even true, if you look at FarCry2`s requirements. I read somewhere that a 2,6 ghz dual core was minimum, and I run it pretty much maxed out on a "old" 2,4 ghz dual core.That is true. Supposed to be less req than Crysis, so if your rig ran Crysis, Far Cry 2 should be no problem. You have to remember they designed it with consoles in mind so they won't up the graphics into something killer for a system.

If you analyze XBox 360 titles vs its PC counterparts for example, the XBox will have terrible resolution to distant objects, especially characters. PC's have no such limitation. This is why I hate console ports - they dumb down the graphics.

So if a proggy is designed with consoles in mind from the start, then you will get a decent running PC version on lesser hardware.

-S

PS. An example of what I'm talking about:

Crytek has confirmed that a 360 version of Crysis is in development. It should be noted, however, that the game will not be a port of the PC version, but rather an entirely new game built from the ground up. The reasoning for this decision, according to the devs, is that the PC game simply couldn't run on an Xbox 360. Given that the title uses many of the advanced features of DirectX 10 (the 360 uses DirectX 9), this isn't too surprising -- although the explanation contradicts earlier statements from the developers. The game will reportedly share many elements with its PC counterpart, but contain entirely different graphics and gameplay.

[stabiz]

Hey, what are you doing here?:rotfl:Let us know what Fallout is like, damnit.

I read the pc version is way better looking than the consoles, but I guess that is also some kind of a port? Some of the videos I have seen looked okay, but I dont know which version of the game I was looking at.

[Rilder]

Processor requirments are too high on all counts.

Not even true, if you look at FarCry2`s requirements. I read somewhere that a 2,6 ghz dual core was minimum, and I run it pretty much maxed out on a "old" 2,4 ghz dual core.


I have a 2ghz SINGLE core.

[claybirdd]

dont be dismayed Rider. I too have a single core AMD 64fx, with an ATI 2600, 2 gig RAM. and I can still play all of the new games. Though I usually wait untill price drops and reviews start to come in. my comp is slightly ****ty compared to some of my more serious gaming friends.

A single core will still get the job done. but be prepared to turn down some of the effects. Some day I WILL buy that new motherboard.

[Rilder]

dont be dismayed Rider. I too have a single core AMD 64fx, with an ATI 2600, 2 gig RAM. and I can still play all of the new games. Though I usually wait untill price drops and reviews start to come in. my comp is slightly ****ty compared to some of my more serious gaming friends.

A single core will still get the job done. but be prepared to turn down some of the effects. Some day I WILL buy that new motherboard.

Oh I know, luckily for me most new non-free games are utter **** anyways so yay.

[danlisa]

:o Dead Space looks good!

18+ Warning (colour balance is a little funky)

http://deadspace.ea.com/Default.aspx?postID=a3379

Same again, if one doesn't work.

http://ll-100.ea.com/cem/u/f/GPO/ea.com/deadspace/Game_Media/trailers/DEDSPgenFACESDTHIGNgV00hi.mp4

On the basis of this one short video, I'm am off to buy it.:yep:

[ajrimmer42]

I love FC2 (16hrs and counting), FallOut 3 is tempting me, but don't think I'll bother with DS, if it really is like Doom 3, cos I couldn't stand that sh!t excuse for a game. lol. Though the game I'm really, rreally looking forward to is E:TW. Bring on Feb!!!!!!!!!!!

[SUBMAN1]

Fallout 3 - finally a decent RPG FPS game! I feel like I am playing the original Fallout from a FPS perspective. The world is huge. The detail immense. The dialog extreme. Stay tuned since I will have more to say later.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Fallout 3 annoyance #1 - crashes occasionally. Crashed 3 times now.

-S

[Ilpalazzo]

Oh shiznit. Keep us posted on Fallout 3. I want it so bad, but am too afraid of catching consolitis. I can't read any "professional" reviews because they're absolutely ridiculous this year. It seems every game I expect to be great gets a 7/10 and anything hyped gets a 10/10.


Super surprised about the things I've been hearing about Farcry 2 lately. I just might get it. I assume the screwed up enemy spawns in FC2 I hear so much about will be fixed. One thing though, just to be clear. Does Farcry 2 have install limits? If so, I think I'll pass. I'm hoping that crap will die out if enough people stop buying those games. Yea, that means I've decided not to buy Red Alert 3:down::nope:

[stabiz]

Yup, FarCry 2 has limited install, but you get them back when or if you uninstall. That way there is no limitation. Lame but tolerable.

[SUBMAN1]

Fallout 3 - played it quite a bit last night. There is a TON of dialog like found in the original. A TON!

Finding a pistol is not necessary either. You pretty much start with one and I'm playing on the most difficult level possible. This is unlike Fallout where it was difficult to find your first firearm.

Finding ammo for it is also pretty easy but it cost about a cap per bullet.

-S

[Dowly]

Got my copy of Dead Space today, so will give my thoughs of it later tonight. :up:

[danlisa]

Got my copy of Dead Space today, so will give my thoughs of it later tonight. :up:

Lights out + sound up.

Waiting to hear back.:yep:

[stabiz]

I like gore, but do you have to use that over-the-shoulder-view all the time? hate that.

[Dowly]

Okie, a very quick first look. Only played for an 45min or so.

I definitely like it, well, maybe a better way is to say I dont dislike it as I've too little to actually make my mind about it. The graphics are pretty nice, obviously, lot has been put into the lighting and shadows. Runs very well, can have everything on high and no stuttering at all. The HUD is pretty innovative. There's no traditional HUD at all, you see your health from your characters back, where there are 4 lights; lose one health, one light goes out. The inventory, map, briefing etc. etc. screens are all projected as holograms right in-front of you, I like this one alot as you can keep on doing what you do while you listen to someone speaking to you or you are watching video logs as as soon as you need to use your weapon, the hologram goes away, BUT the audio still plays.

The horror element is the usual, atleast for the 45min I tried it. You walk around in the corridors of the spaceship and see & hear things that make you jump once in awhile. And of course, there's the mandatory "loud sound in another direction, monster coming from the other"-moments. But it's ok, I couldnt imagine it done any other way, tho who knows what the story brings. :hmm:

For EA game, this one has TONS of gore. Mutilated corpses everywhere, lots of blood and you can shoot/punch/kick limbs off the monsters/corpses. It is even encouraged to shoot off the limbs of your enemies as it gives extra damage and naturally it's much easier to kill the baddie by shooting it's legs off and running next to it to introduce Mr.Boot to it's neck, decapitating the poor thingy. :lol:

More when I get change to play it more.

[Detritus]

I played Dead Space to approximately half-way thorugh in two sittings (then I got stuck and had to check from a walkthorugh). By then, I'd gotten bored, then annoyed, then like I'd been ripped-off. Then I uninstalled it and threw it it the bin,heh. A bit extreme reaction perhaps since it isn't all that bad game as such. Graphics are nice and especially the sounds are good, for instance on level three in the engine compartment. The overhead camera and controls are yet another clumsy and clunky console ports but nothing you can't live with. It's the whole package that fails-a cheap rip-off of System Shock 2 and Bioshock for fanboys, very short with practically zero replay value. Nothing about 'horror' or 'survival', just 'Boo, lights out, emergency lights kick in and here comes the freaks',I mean 'monsters'. In the end (or midway) I couldn't care less for the ship's crew, my buddies or even myself enough to see how the game ends. Waste of time and money.

[Captain Vlad]

This is unlike Fallout where it was difficult to find your first firearm.


You started with a 10mm pistol in the original Fallout. I think in Fallout 2 you started with a spear...I remember jumping for glee when I found a pipe rifle.

[Ilpalazzo]

Yup, FarCry 2 has limited install, but you get them back when or if you uninstall. That way there is no limitation. Lame but tolerable.

hmmm that doesn't sound too bad. Any idea if Red Alert 3 will work this way?

Just did a quick read on the FarCry 2 thing. So you can 'revoke' an activation if you uninstall it properly. OK but I'm curious about how one would handle a situation like a hard drive failure or something that would otherwise prevent a 'proper' uninstall. That's when you have to call right? At least this isn't too bad. Apparently you can have it installed on up to 3 different pc's. I wonder if lan play is possible with the same copy. That would be convenient. Roll out some coop games, EA, for god's sake. So many games out that are begging to be played cooperatively.


I like gore, but do you have to use that over-the-shoulder-view all the time? hate that.

AH HAH! I knew I couldn't be the only one who hates that view.

[danlisa]

Pretty good so far then.:hmm:

The horror element is the usual, atleast for the 45min I tried it. You walk around in the corridors of the spaceship and see & hear things that make you jump once in awhile. And of course, there's the mandatory "loud sound in another direction, monster coming from the other"-moments. But it's ok, I couldnt imagine it done any other way, tho who knows what the story brings. :hmm:

When you're further into the game, can you let us know if they are 'cheap' scares or actually decent effects that really make you sh*t yerself.:)

[Dowly]

Pretty good so far then.:hmm:
When you're further into the game, can you let us know if they are 'cheap' scares or actually decent effects that really make you sh*t yerself.:)

There already was few nice effects with lights & shadows. It's not the usual, when you are 1m from a corner, you see a shadow move just behind the corner. But at times you wont even notice these things, but they are there. For example, I was walking down a long corridor with multiple ways to go, I turned right and moved onwards. Suddenly in the faaaaaaaaaaaaar end of the corridor I saw a shape move behind the corner just for a brief second. But yeh, I hope there will be some decent scare tactics too, tho like I said, I cant really think of anything. The mood is pretty good, feels abit like Aliens. :hmm:

[danlisa]

...feels abit like Aliens. :hmm:

Yeah, many say it's Event Horizon meets Aliens. If so, winner.

[Wolfehunter]

Far Cry 2 has SecuRom aswell. :p

Personally, I've been waiting for DS. Doom 3 was good, but not great. I'm hoping DS get's more out of the horror part than going into a mindless shooting with only scary part being some 3 eyed twut jumping from around a corner and going "BOOOO!!!".

***NEWS FLASH***

Dead Space is DOOM 4

ID software has gone into waters with EA games
spotted the similarities yet? Mars is traded for a Space ship in dire need of help, Alien virus turns crew into mutated monsters

HunterICXDead space should have been doom 3. I hate the DRMs from EA but if you can crack it then I say Dead space is the best. But MEPC has alot of bugs especially with X-fi cards so maybe Dead Space will have similar bugs. They gear these games for Console and then translate it for PC. PC version a full of bugs. So its a gamble.

I say wait abit a few months. Till they iron out all the issues.

At least by then you will have a crack to use so you don't have to worry about the DRMs screwing up your computer.

Good hunting.:up:




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