View Full Version : Academy award winner Jennifer Hudson's mother shot to death.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/10/double-homicide-on-south-side.html
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Any idea what caused this? Do you think it could've been just a burglary? If so, that's just sad.
Any idea what caused this? Do you think it could've been just a burglary? If so, that's just sad.
They are saying now it might be domestic related. An AMBER alert was just issued about a missing 7 year old that was in the house at the time of the murders. He may be Ms. Hudson's nephew.
An offender has been identified and you may not believe this: he was on parole for attempted murder and vehicular hijacking....
SUBMAN1
10-24-08, 08:38 PM
Especially in a city that doesn't allow firearms (which makes it more likely BTW). Sad news.
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Especially in a city that doesn't allow firearms (which makes it more likely BTW). Sad news.
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Handgun ban, long guns are fine.
Imagine that. :dead:
Gets better. You'll read about it soon enough in the rags.... I hope to god that most of it isn't true.
Offender in custody, the 7 year old still missing though. I hope he is found unharmed.
Poor kid. I hope you get him back.
nikimcbee
10-25-08, 01:18 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/10/double-homicide-on-south-side.html
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I heard the story on the news and I figured you are pretty busy now.:-?
SUBMAN1
10-25-08, 11:52 AM
Thank god guns are not allowed in Chicago. They would have never been able to achieve this notoriety if they had been.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.homicide.rate.2.847736.html
Chicago Beats New York, Los Angeles In Murders
CHICAGO (CBS) ― Chicago is the Second City in nickname and the third in population, but when it comes to murder, the city has the dubious distinction of being second to no city in America.
As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, the Chicago Sun-Times pointed out on Friday that Chicago has seen 426 homicides this year through Tuesday, compared with 417 in New York and 302 in Los Angeles.
At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. "murder capital" after surpassing New York's homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.
There are more than 8 million people in New York, compared to slightly under 3 million in Chicago. The population of Los Angeles exceeds that of Chicago by more than 800,000.
Murder is also up, at a lower rate, in New York.
The alarming statistics were expected to come up on Friday when Police Supt. Jody Weis once again appeared before the City Council to address a crime rate that many believe has spun out of control. He appeared at a City Council budget hearing, which began at 10 a.m.
Weis, a career FBI agent, took office this year with a mandate to clean up the department in the wake of several scandals. But murders have risen, and arrests have fallen, on his watch.
Back in July, Weis addressed the media after being grilled by the Council on the subject.
"I don't mind tough questions," Weis said in July, not long after a shooting erupted on the streets of the Loop as crowds were leaving the annual Grant Park fireworks show. "The City of Chicago has the right to ask tough questions, especially when our crime is up nearly 13 percent."
Under tough questioning at a Council hearing that month, Weis suggested there was a "degree of timidness" among officers afraid of having lawsuits and citizen complaints filed against them.
At the hearing Friday, Weis may highlight what police view as a different problem: Officers have spent nearly 5,000 hours filling out inventory forms in the first nine months of 2008. "We'd rather they be on the street," said Beatrice Cuello, deputy superintendent of patrol.
Last year, the Cook County sheriff, who runs the jail, stopped inventorying arrestees' property. Under an agreement with the Police Department, cops took over the task.
"It's not our responsibility," said Steve Patterson, a spokesman for Sheriff Tom Dart. "We had an entire room filled with property.
Chicago is on pace to exceed 500 murders by the end of the year, but that number is far short of even approaching a record. In every year between 1991 and 1994, there were more than 900 homicides in the city, peaking in 1992 with 943 murders. The standing record for homicides in Chicago dates back to 1974, when there were 970 murders.
Are people starting to see that if you remove your defense, it gives the criminals free reign? Even happens on a different scale in the UK or Australia for example. Over there they don't usually murder you, but they have no problem breaking into houses in broad daylight since nothing will happen to them if the owner is home.
Crazy world. Its like all the people want to be victims these days. Maybe this gets them free handouts or something if they aren't murdered? Dunno.
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Dribble, dribble, dribble
Yawn.
SUBMAN1
10-25-08, 02:56 PM
Dribble, dribble, dribble
Yawn.You wouldn't even have a clue anyway. You're from Norway! :o
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Zachstar
10-25-08, 03:18 PM
I figured it was only a matter of hours until Subman injected politics into this topic.
Zachstar
10-25-08, 03:19 PM
Dribble, dribble, dribble
Yawn.You wouldn't even have a clue anyway. You're from Norway! :o
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Discrimination Subman?
Actually he is right, I have never had to defend my home with a mini gun.:) Where I live there hasnt been a murder for six or seven years, I belive.
Frame57
10-25-08, 04:18 PM
No offence to Ms. Hudson, but if were an academy award winner, my Mother would not be living in that dump...
SUBMAN1
10-25-08, 04:45 PM
Discrimination Subman?Sounds like you have a definition crisis going on. You don't even know what that word means.
SUBMAN1
10-25-08, 04:46 PM
Actually he is right, I have never had to defend my home with a mini gun.:) Where I live there hasnt been a murder for six or seven years, I belive.I'm sorry, but your idea about what goes on in Chicago is about as relevant as my idea as to what kind of trees to plant in Norway. Case closed.
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Zachstar
10-25-08, 05:42 PM
Actually he is right, I have never had to defend my home with a mini gun.:) Where I live there hasnt been a murder for six or seven years, I belive.I'm sorry, but your idea about what goes on in Chicago is about as relevant as my idea as to what kind of trees to plant in Norway. Case closed.
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No it is only closed in your mind of questionable openness Subman. He has just as much to say about guns from Norway as I do from Shreveport.
The "Fear" that we will adapt gun policies of other nations is no instant shutdown for discussion of guns since it was YOU who decided to inject politics into this.
The final word goes to the supreme court on the matter of the legality of guns BTW.
SUBMAN1
10-25-08, 05:44 PM
No it is only closed in your mind of questionable openness Subman. He has just as much to say about guns from Norway as I do from Shreveport.
The "Fear" that we will adapt gun policies of other nations is no instant shutdown for discussion of guns since it was YOU who decided to inject politics into this.
The final word goes to the supreme court on the matter of the legality of guns BTW.
And they ruled in our favor. Also, since he is not privy to the environment for which we live, he cannot know either.
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I'm at the point right now, if everybody wants to run around like the wild west, have at it. Just found this quite interesting where our infamous "reverand" Jesse Jackson just got involved:
Balfour's mother said her son and Julia Hudson were separated and that Donerson had thrown him out of the family home last winter. While standing outside the Wentworth Area police station Friday night with Rev. Jesse Jackson (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/social-issues/racism/jesse-jackson-PEPLT007437.topic), Michele Balfour denied that her son had anything to do with the slayings.
Family members said she spoke with him Friday afternoon and he seemed as if he had been sleeping. There was no trace of panic or anxiety in his voice, they said.
"I didn't raise no murderer," Michele Balfour said. "He was not a child abductor. They have the wrong person."
Wentworth Area detectives were handling the investigation.
1.Mr. Jesse Jackson
Nothing about the victim's of this horrible tragedy, no words of comfort, no pleas for the missing 7 year olds whereabouts. Didn't say ****, but stood with the offender's mother.
Break down a bit more about Michelle Balfour's statements.
2. "I didn't raise no murderer" Actually by semantics alone, she is correct. By definition she raised a mass murderer. More than 1 murder victim at the same location by the same offender is considered a mass murder.
3. The use of "was" in the role of a child abduction. His criminal history does not indicate this. So she again is correct. Though I will strongly argue that a child abduction is still in the commission stage until there is a resolution. Meaning the remains are recovered or the child is found and brought back to their parents.
4. "They have the wrong person." A logical ending to her argument if the proofs offered are true. But I will argue that a "heater" case will be followed closely to the numbers, no short cuts taken that will lose the case in court. Too many are following this case to screw it up.
I'm getting a gut feeling that the nephew will never be found alive. I certainly hope I am wrong...
Hanomag
10-26-08, 10:35 AM
Who's Jennifer Hudson anyway? :hmm:
After being a part of the news for so many years, I have long since removed my need to read it or watch it. :yep:
As for poor Chicago, Its a big city. Like most big cities its a festering wart on the ass of society. A giant cancer deep inside the colon. After walking those same **** covered streets in my precinct I can tell you violence cycles like a roller coaster. And is dependent on numerous factors, sorry to say, not just gun laws. (BTW I am totally pro gun ownership).
Give you one quick example to avoid a biblical novel...
When I 1st arrived in 1994 at the 75th Pct. in Brooklyn's East NY, the Precinct motto was "You give us 22 minutes we'll give you a homicide". At the time the 10 mile square pct. boasted a compliment of 425 police officers and led NYC in homicides, I believe 192 that year. But it was attributed to crack cocaines upswing. Now you can go down the same war torn streets and all is much much quieter. But this crime drop didnt have as much to do with NYPD's efforts as it did with crack losing its popularity. In fact nowadays in the same area crack dealers are near extinction and are not as well off moneywise.
I am sure if you check up on Chicago's viloence upswing there is something at the root of it not just a "Yo lets cap some ol' bitch and test out my new gat."
As for Norway.. I bet ya its real pretty up there. :sunny:
Frame57
10-26-08, 01:03 PM
My three favorite things I love about Chicago. Married with children, Chicago Pizza, Al Capone...:D
Who's Jennifer Hudson anyway? :hmm:
After being a part of the news for so many years, I have long since removed my need to read it or watch it. :yep:
As for poor Chicago, Its a big city. Like most big cities its a festering wart on the ass of society. A giant cancer deep inside the colon. After walking those same **** covered streets in my precinct I can tell you violence cycles like a roller coaster. And is dependent on numerous factors, sorry to say, not just gun laws. (BTW I am totally pro gun ownership).
Give you one quick example to avoid a biblical novel...
When I 1st arrived in 1994 at the 75th Pct. in Brooklyn's East NY, the Precinct motto was "You give us 22 minutes we'll give you a homicide". At the time the 10 mile square pct. boasted a compliment of 425 police officers and led NYC in homicides, I believe 192 that year. But it was attributed to crack cocaines upswing. Now you can go down the same war torn streets and all is much much quieter. But this crime drop didnt have as much to do with NYPD's efforts as it did with crack losing its popularity. In fact nowadays in the same area crack dealers are near extinction and are not as well off moneywise.
I am sure if you check up on Chicago's viloence upswing there is something at the root of it not just a "Yo lets cap some ol' bitch and test out my new gat."
As for Norway.. I bet ya its real pretty up there. :sunny:
You do have a valid point about street violence. This case is domestic, in which, we really do not have much of an effect to prevent it. We can't sit in someone's domicile 24/7 to make sure that an argument does not turn into crap.
My three favorite things I love about Chicago. Married with children, Chicago Pizza, Al Capone...:D
You forgot Vienna hot dogs, Italian beef sandwiches, Italian ice, putting your money on a bar w/out it getting stolen, Eli's cheesecake, Dick Butkus and the 1961 Chicago Blackhawks....
They recovered the vehicle listed in the AMBER alert. Unfortunately a young male's body was found inside of it.
They confirmed the identity of the boy. Sh&tty outcome.
caspofungin
10-28-08, 08:08 AM
It's a real tragedy. But slightly off topic, has the cult of celebrity gone too far? After all, it was Hudson's sister, not Hudson herself. I mean, I'm sure a few other people got killed in Chicago this week -- why aren't they on the news?
It's a real tragedy. But slightly off topic, has the cult of celebrity gone too far? After all, it was Hudson's sister, not Hudson herself. I mean, I'm sure a few other people got killed in Chicago this week -- why aren't they on the news?
You sir are absolutely right! Her mother & brother were murdered. Happens almost everyday(well really everyday in Englewood) but since she is famous, it becomes a news item. I am giving props to the detectives, and beat guys that worked this case, God bless you guys...
Actually he is right, I have never had to defend my home with a mini gun.:) Where I live there hasnt been a murder for six or seven years, I belive.
In my village (25.000 residents) the last murder is from 1978. And burglary is rare.
OneToughHerring
10-30-08, 12:06 AM
Actually he is right, I have never had to defend my home with a mini gun.:) Where I live there hasnt been a murder for six or seven years, I belive.
In my village (25.000 residents) the last murder is from 1978. And burglary is rare.
That's pretty good. I come from a similar size town and we had murders, manslaughters almost constantly. Well not constantly but every now and then. Finland is a pretty violent country.
nikimcbee
11-02-08, 12:58 AM
It's a real tragedy. But slightly off topic, has the cult of celebrity gone too far? After all, it was Hudson's sister, not Hudson herself. I mean, I'm sure a few other people got killed in Chicago this week -- why aren't they on the news?
You sir are absolutely right! Her mother & brother were murdered. Happens almost everyday(well really everyday in Englewood) but since she is famous, it becomes a news item. I am giving props to the detectives, and beat guys that worked this case, God bless you guys...
Is this in your juresdiction?
nikimcbee
11-02-08, 01:19 AM
Do you mean the city?
I was going to say precint, but I kan't spell pre-sinkt:oops: .
Hanomag
11-02-08, 09:42 AM
Do you mean the city?
I was going to say precint, but I kan't spell pre-sinkt:oops: .
LMAO :rotfl: :rotfl:
PRECINCT.. 4TW
Do you mean the city?
I was going to say precint, but I kan't spell pre-sinkt:oops: .
precinct is too hard to spell, so they went with district instead...
it seems that for some Americans to give up with the free selling of the weapons it's like don't know it's like cutting oneself a arm , i mean is it impossible to let the weapons available for those who want to but to increase the acquisition procedure difficulty at least in time ..
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