What type of BB,CA,CL,DD,CV,Pre-Dreadnought,Dreadnought you hope to find in NF3/NF2?

[Otto_Weddigen]

Ok I am a newbie here but my favourite game is NF and my hunting ground is NFEU and I have recently heard about a new NF in subsim,well I hope to find the following ships in the new NF

Royal Navy

7-turret Battleships
HMS Agincourt

5-turret Battleships
HMS Iron Duke
HMS Ajax
HMS King George V
HMS Dreadnought (FIRST BATTLESHIP IN THE WORLD)
HMS Vanguard
HMS St Vincent
HMS Bellorophon
HMS Emperor of India
HMS Marlborough
HMS Centurion

4-turret Battleships
HMS Queen Elizabeth (in WW2 and WW1 configuration)
HMS Warspite
HMS Malaya
HMS Barham
HMS Revenge
HMS Royal Sovereign
HMS Royal Oak
HMS Revenge
HMS Tiger
HMS Queen Mary
HMS Invincible
HMS Indefatigable
HMS New Zealand
HMS Hood

3-Turret Battleships
HMS Renown
HMS Repulse
HMS Nelson
HMS Rodney

United States Navy

6-turret Battleships
USS Wyoming
USS Arkansas

5-Turret Battleships
USS New York
USS Texas

4-Turret Battleships
USS Colorado
USS New Mexico
USS Nevada
USS Arizona
USS Oklahoma
USS Tennesee
USS West Virginia
USS California
USS Florida
USS Utah
USS South Carolina
USS Montana

3-Turret Battleships
Iowa
USS North Carolina

Kriegsmarine/Kaiserliche Marine

4 Turret Battleships
H44
H39
Bismarck
Konig class
Tirpitz
Kaiser class
Mackensen class
Bayern class
Yorck class
Bayern class
Derfflinger class
Nassau Class
Helgoland class

2-Turret BB
Wittelsbach class
Kaiser Friedrich III class
Deutschland class

IJN
6-Turret BB
Ise
Fuso
Yamashiro

4-Turret BB
Kongo
Nagato

3-Turret BB
Yamato
Super Yamato

French Navy
Courbet Class
Bretagne Class
Richielieu Class
Dunkerque Class

Italy
?

Russian Navy?

[Lord Kelvin]

There is NO way that I'm going to let them get away without at least including a real South Dakota (with 10 secondary turrets instead of 8), a real Pensacola with 10 main guns, and the frakking Worcester. We've been crying for the Worcester to be added to the game for years...

[CCIP]

Well, if I were to nitpick, 1) Dreadnought is NOT the first battleship, nor the first 'modern', big-gun, steel battleship. It's simply the first all-big-gun, steam- turbine-powered battleship launched; 2) a lot of ships you listed are battlecruisers, not battleships. :p

USSR - Sovetskiy Soyuz class:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovietsky_Soyuz_class_battleship

Would've been an interesting rival to Yamato :)

[Otto_Weddigen]

HMS Agincourt,I wonder how much destruction is she capable of since she has 7 turrets:o

http://i36.tinypic.com/5bb40m.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2ut5jxh.jpg

[CCIP]

HMS Agincourt,I wonder how much destruction is she capable of since she has 7 turrets:o
Not very much, seeing how she had 12" guns, with a lot of them in very restricted firing arcs. Even assuming a full broadside, consider that the 12" projectile weighs 850lb, so she would've had a broadside of 11,900lb. Queen Elizabeth's eight guns delivered 15,360lb in WWI, while being positioned much more effectively and having much better penetration ability. Agincourt, compared to most other British BBs, was also severely underhanded in armor and would've fared poorly against most contemporary opponents.

She's a cool-looking ship, that's for sure, but more of an oddball than a really effective unit. It looked like she exploded every time a broadside was fired :lol:

[Otto_Weddigen]

I was pretty surprised to hear from one of the mods from NFEU that Agincourt is included in the new NF which is being developed,I am thinking that there would be Pre-Dreadnoughts as well/Dreadnoughts,my favourite ships is Agincourt,Iron Duke,Ajax,King George V from WW1,Bellorophon,St Vincent,Wyoming and New York

[CCIP]

I'm not surprised. NF thrives on cool ship designs for the player to customize. NFs ship classes don't really correspond that well with their historical counterparts, but overall the game is lots of fun thanks to being able to twiddle with customization like that!

Just imagine all the stuff you can put in those 7 barbettes. Heck, with Navy Field I bet you'd at least be able to upgrade them all to 15" guns. Who cares if in reality she probably would've bent in half after firing a broadside - the important thing for this game is having guns to kill the other dozens of players in a battle :p

[Otto_Weddigen]

Agreed with Lord_Kelvin

I do understand your anger with the South Dakota and the Pensacola,well I am having my fingers crossed on the following ships.Imagine a Agincourt with 7x 15 inch turrets,that would be able to compete against a KM H39 with no problems

HMS Marlborough (Iron Duke Class must use 15" or she will become food)

http://i34.tinypic.com/24dgb34.jpg

HMS Bellorophon (must be capable to use 15" or she will become food)

http://i37.tinypic.com/ifo1fo.jpg

HMS Vanguard (must use 15" or will become food)

http://i38.tinypic.com/zn54j7.jpg

[Raptor1]

Must...have...Kii...class

[ajrimmer42]

I don't care what ships are in it, as long as it's fun! I'd personally like to see the Napoleonic era in a future game too, as I'm more interested in that period than pre-Dreadnought.

[Raptor1]

I don't care what ships are in it, as long as it's fun! I'd personally like to see the Napoleonic era in a future game too, as I'm more interested in that period than pre-Dreadnought.
But tell me, how would a Napoleonic sail frigate match up to a WWII Heavy Cruiser?

At least a Pre-Dreadnought would withstand a single shot, but I also don't think they should be in the game

[Rilder]

I don't care what ships are in it, as long as it's fun! I'd personally like to see the Napoleonic era in a future game too, as I'm more interested in that period than pre-Dreadnought.
But tell me, how would a Napoleonic sail frigate match up to a WWII Heavy Cruiser?

At least a Pre-Dreadnought would withstand a single shot, but I also don't think they should be in the game

Nonono, what the game needs is Greek/Roman style Triremes!

RAMMING SPEED!

[Otto_Weddigen]

I like to see a Greek/Roman style Tririmes trying to crash a Agincourt :rock:

Anyways NF2 has no place for any ships from the Napoleonic era and it goes for Greek/Roman style Tririmes

The only ship type to find there is:

Destroyer
Light Cruiser Heavy Cruiser
Aircraft Carrier
Submarine
Battleships
Dreadnoughts
Pre-Dreadnoughts

[Rilder]

Either way I wish they'd lower the rediculous grind in it.

I need to make 2.7 million credits (not to mention leveling sailors) to get a seydits aircraft carrier.

Annoys the hell out of me, because I really have trouble grinding.

[SandyCaesar]

I suppose they could balance out Agincourt's 14x15in by lowering her agility and her accuracy since she is a WWI ship.

And now, for a bit of unrealisticness:
USS Newport News (CA-148) and the rest of her Des Moines class sisters. I rather like the idea of 8" guns at 12 rpm per barrel x 9 barrels...

108 8-inch shells per minute at best. Mmmm...
(insert drooling smile here)

[Otto_Weddigen]

NF3 would be fun than the first one thats for sure

[Sailor Steve]

Imagine a Agincourt with 7x 15 inch turrets,that would be able to compete against a KM H39 with no problems
Agincourt with seven twin 15" turrets would be a match for nothing, as she would sink under the extra weight. Every ship built was built for its own time, and even 13.5" guns required a major hull redesign specifically to carry the larger guns.

[CCIP]

Imagine a Agincourt with 7x 15 inch turrets,that would be able to compete against a KM H39 with no problems Agincourt with seven twin 15" turrets would be a match for nothing, as she would sink under the extra weight. Every ship built was built for its own time, and even 13.5" guns required a major hull redesign specifically to carry the larger guns.

Yes, but you have to remember this is Navy Field. It um, shall we say, bends quite a lot of things in favour of gameplay. Which is okay with me, it's not exactly pretentious on realism.

And I mean, it's pretty obvious Agincourt wouldn't take anything larger, considering there seemed to be a fear about her in any case that firing a broadside would seriously damage the ship. AFAIK she did fire broadsides and was alright, but it did give her quite a shake and caused minor damage. Which isn't surprising - I mean, the Rodney had to go into repair for quite some time (in Boston, oddly enough) because her decks were badly twisted by the stress of firing hundreds of 16" shells during the sinking of the Bismarck. Even three large turrets in close arrangement is generally not a good idea, let alone 7 of them spread around the ship. I seem to remember Japanese heavy cruisers having some issues with the large number of guns they had, though I can't remember why or what.

The other thing, of course, is that Agincourt already traded a lot of armor for even the 7x12" guns. In general, realistically speaking - you'd probably need a ship twice Agincourt's size to carry that kind of armament.

[Raptor1]

I seem to remember Japanese heavy cruisers having some issues with the large number of guns they had, though I can't remember why or what.

Probably talking about the Myoko or Takao classes, 10 7.9" guns made those things very top-heavy and unbalance

[CCIP]

I seem to remember Japanese heavy cruisers having some issues with the large number of guns they had, though I can't remember why or what.

Probably talking about the Myoko or Takao classes, 10 7.9" guns made those things very top-heavy and unbalance

Yep, I'd guess that was it. It only makes sense - if you want a lot of big guns, you also want a big, heavy, relatively wide-hulled ship. A cruiser ain't it :p

[Otto_Weddigen]

I am also giving SDE a big question mark if they were to implement NF3 with WW1 Era ships except QE and Revenge class,Bellorophon,Iron Duke,King George V (WW1 Era),HMS Tiger,HMS Vanguard (WW1 Era),HMS St Vincent (WW1) with 15-inch guns,these ships if I am correct with 15 inch guns would have a big flaw