We're all pirates and too stupid to understand

[Syxx_Killer]

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20655

At least that is what EA's CEO says. I will gladly not buy Red Alert 3 when it is released even though I have been waiting for it for seven years. Guess EA will never get it. Most of their games suck anyway. :yep: I wonder how he thinks he could have made the "misunderstood" among us understand? :doh:

[Wolfehunter]

EA isn't the only one seeing this direction to build new games. Some other companies are also taking on the role to rent a game rather than sell them.

Many new future projects will require internet to play a game.

But I'm sure hackers will crack them. Pirates laugh at this stupidity from the CEOs.

They never have a problem enjoying the game. Ever.:-?

Like someone said in the post its about stopping second hand sales thats all. Who cares about the loyal honest clients.:nope:

[frenzied]

Wow, he (the EA CEO) just spouted so much BS in so little space that he should go into politics.

Seriously:
“Everyone gets that we need some level of protection, or we’re going to be in business for free,” Erm, what about a few games that have come out lately with no copy protection/DRM at all, which are selling quite well?

“‘I'm guessing that half of them were pirates, and the other half were people caught up in something that they didn’t understand,” he says. “If I’d had a chance to have a conversation with them, they’d have gotten it.” :rotfl:

Well, it looks as if the uproar and fury over what EA is doing has had absolutely zero impact :cry:

Edit: Isn't the ability to resell a product, in this case selling your licence to use the game, protected by law?

[SUBMAN1]

EA isn't the only one seeing this direction to build new games. Some other companies are also taking on the role to rent a game rather than sell them.

Many new future projects will require internet to play a game.

But I'm sure hackers will crack them. Pirates laugh at this stupidity from the CEOs.

They never have a problem enjoying the game. Ever.:-?

Like someone said in the post its about stopping second hand sales thats all. Who cares about the loyal honest clients.:nope:I've bought my fair share of titles in used book stores because I didn't want to pay full price for something that might suck. So since all EA games pretty much suck, he is trying to stop me from buying them? Crazy.

-S

[Wolfehunter]

EA isn't the only one seeing this direction to build new games. Some other companies are also taking on the role to rent a game rather than sell them.

Many new future projects will require internet to play a game.

But I'm sure hackers will crack them. Pirates laugh at this stupidity from the CEOs.

They never have a problem enjoying the game. Ever.:-?

Like someone said in the post its about stopping second hand sales thats all. Who cares about the loyal honest clients.:nope:I've bought my fair share of titles in used book stores because I didn't want to pay full price for something that might suck. So since all EA games pretty much suck, he is trying to stop me from buying them? Crazy.

-SHe's not trying to stop you from buying just make you aware that you need to have a link to their server to fully play the game and that you need to follow certain conditions to play it. Your also not buying it but leasing it sorta.

I can't wait till the day when they start charging us guys monthly installments like online games similar to everquest etc.:rotfl: lol I wouldn't never buy a game like that. Their are alot of people who still don't use internet and they expect kids or adults to have it mandatory?:doh: Thats crazy.

[Rilder]

Most indie and open source games are better imho.

[Falkirion]

Yep DRM, gamers worst nightmare. Thats why I'm waiting for ISO's for RA3 which will be awesome and Dead Space which I really want to play, go figure. I hate anything horror films or anything remotely related to it but I want to play Dead Space.

Ah well at least someone in EA admits that DRM sucks. Thats a step in the right direction

[stabiz]

I think in ten years time all members of subsim are playing indie games. All mainstream games comes with an EA employee who has to live at home with you and check that you own the game.

[Wolfehunter]

I think in ten years time all members of subsim are playing indie games. All mainstream games comes with an EA employee who has to live at home with you and check that you own the game.:p I'll charge them room and board... and their not touching my beer..:up:

[Rilder]

Also from what I've seen the only games that get little piracy are the games that get little or no hype and are hardly known.

[Raptor1]

I think nonsense like DRM actually increases piracy

[wetwarev7]

I think nonsense like DRM actually increases piracy
I think the image in your sig is waaaay too big. :rotfl:

I agree with what you said though. Locked doors only keep honest people out. Can you imagine what your house would be like if we tried half as hard to protect our own homes as companies do to protect a game?

[goldorak]

I think the image in your sig is waaaay too big. :rotfl:

I agree with what you said though. Locked doors only keep honest people out. Can you imagine what your house would be like if we tried half as hard to protect our own homes as companies do to protect a game?

You'd be livin' outside, on the front lawn. :rotfl:

[AJ!]

I dont understand what the problem is. I dont agree with the DRM stuff but its not the end of the world. So it limits people to 3 computers? Most people only have one comp anyway. If your greedy enough to have more computers then you have install limits then thats your problem ;)

[Syxx_Killer]

I dont understand what the problem is. I dont agree with the DRM stuff but its not the end of the world. So it limits people to 3 computers? Most people only have one comp anyway. If your greedy enough to have more computers then you have install limits then thats your problem ;)
That's not really the issue. The big issue is people upgrade their computers or reinstall Windows. Even if you simply reinstall Windows that counts as an authorization. You can install unlimited times on a computer with the same hardware profile SecuROM builds. Change the simplest of things or reinstall Windows and those 3 authorizations go by in a hurry.

[Raptor1]

I reformat my PC at least once every 3 months

[Robsoie]

There is hope in the dark hole full of malware,drm,limited activations that is plaguing PC gaming nowadays.

Notice this on Bluesnews :
More EA/SecuROM Lawsuits (http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=93033)

It is very good, it happened already with Ubi Soft and they had to remove this kind of pos from some of their products to the benefit of their customers, hopefully it will happen the same with EA.

Maybe one day we will be able to play games again without all those annoyances that are touching only legitimate customers.

[CaptHawkeye]

I'm quite amused by big time companies like EA or Ubisoft screaming "doom doom doom" over their supposedly failing war against piracy. It turns out going Gestapo on the whole town just to get a few guys doesn't work. Who knew right?

What I think is really funny is that their are PLENTY of PC games using no DRM at all, and they sell just fine. Tell me, why don't you hear CA complain about rampant piracy every time they release a Total War game? How about Valve and Stardock? Why aren't they manufacturing all sorts of wierd arguments backed up by vague evidence and claims?

Could it be that the threat posed by pirates is blown completely out of proportion? And that EA is full of ****?

[SUBMAN1]

Fallout 3 is easily copied. The XBOX360 version was even available prior to release of Fallout 3!

Now the twist - It also has sold 4 million units since the 28th?

Ahh.... This guy is smoking crack and is using the pirate scene as a way to tell stockholders why they are building such crappy titles that no one wants to play. Its all the pirates fault.

The short of it is, people will pay for good titles.

-S

[GlobalExplorer]

May I add that I have 2 PCs. One is for work and and it's connected to the net, but the gaming rig doesnt even have an internet connection. So I am not too enthusiastic about the newer schemes that act as if everyone will be able connect to their server to play or install a game. And I change a lot in my system, copy images from one harddisk to another etc, so I don't want a system that is just for the silent majority, i.e. the ones who never do anything with their computer.

[CaptHawkeye]

Fallout 3 is easily copied. The XBOX360 version was even available prior to release of Fallout 3!


Yeah. Their's this comical notion amongst developers that consoles are and will always be a completely safe haven from the supposed ravages of piracy. That couldn't be farther from the truth, really, but when you're a disgruntled design team you'll believe anyone who tantilizes you with marketing buzzwords.

[jumpy]

“I think that, in general, a year and a half ago EA was pretty well hated -- and I think for good reasons," he says. "Today, you’d be hard pressed to go to a forum and not see a lot of people defending EA and its products.”
Oh contraire....

Medal of Honor Airborne was crap... I looked forwards to it with the long experience of excellent online gameplay with the franchise... however, it spoke to me in one language: console.

Since MOH Spearhead, I've not really played an EA game that was worth paying for (and I have paid for a good few in the vain hope my expectations would be met).

So, up yours John. Having swallowed the bait and ended up gasping my last breath on the river bank of EA's profit tributary one last time, you can go to hell and take your ceo platitudes with you. The board might be fooled by your silvered words, but gamers know you only look at them with dollar signs in your eyes and the 'kerching' sound of tills ringing in your ears all the way to the bank whilst another ****ty title falls off the shelves as with the dull booming of a tombstone falling over in a forgotten corner of a graveyard.

[fatty]

Anti-piracy measures are a lost cause. Even games with installation limits that 'phone home' to a master server are routinely cracked and available within days of commercial release. I will not say too much in the interests of abiding by forum rules, but more people are downloading Spore right now than are downloading Fallout 3, and we all know which one has the hardcore DRM.

The only successful measures I have seen are multiplayer games which require confirmation of a unique serial code before a server will allow you to join. Other than that, these draconian DRM models just frustrate honest users.

[Rilder]

The only successful measures I have seen are multiplayer games which require confirmation of a unique serial code before a server will allow you to join. Other than that, these draconian DRM models just frustrate honest users.

MMO's have these lil things called "Private servers"

[CaptHawkeye]

He's a CEO for christ sake. What did you expect him to say about his own company?

Ironically, he actually did issue a kind of "public apology" to gamers last year about the declining quality of EA's products and its ruthless business tactics. A month or so later EA tried to assimilate Take Two in a hostile takeover. It turns out he's either a flat out liar or just really removed from reality. Which is a fairly common problem amongst many higher up corporate staff these days. Especially CEOs.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Anti-piracy measures are a lost cause. Even games with installation limits that 'phone home' to a master server are routinely cracked and available within days of commercial release. I will not say too much in the interests of abiding by forum rules, but more people are downloading Spore right now than are downloading Fallout 3, and we all know which one has the hardcore DRM.


Thanks :yep::)


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