View Full Version : Where Is Everybody?( Big Drop )
iambecomelife
10-13-08, 09:12 PM
In the past couple days the number of people on the forums has plunged! What's going on? :cry: I understand that an old game will eventually lose its appeal, but this decline seems very sudden.
onelifecrisis
10-13-08, 09:14 PM
I think the hardcore forum members are at the subsim meet thing.
GoldenRivet
10-13-08, 09:19 PM
yes... you'll see a return to pre subsim meet levels in a day or two.
Also, right when i got home from the meet i completed several patrols and a sh*t load of honey do's.
I would guess that a lot of the "hard core" types are in the same situation.
Just a lot of boats out on patrol right now, thats all
kylania
10-13-08, 11:15 PM
:o:hmm: Huh?
Threads posted to for Monday, Oct 13th, the day this question was asked:
SH III Main forum: 24 threads (19 of them new since last week, 5 were replies to older threads)
SH III Mods forum: 20 threads
Comparing to last week, and granted, this is only threads who's last post was on last Monday (the 7th) you get:
SH III Main forum: 15 threads (Assume 20 or so based on previous threads from today)
SH III Mods forum: 20 threads
So, yeah today (which I believe was a holiday?) was actually a little more active than last Monday, which brings me to my question, what do you mean where is everybody? :)
Madox58
10-14-08, 12:47 AM
A lot of people were watching the webcam when it was on.
And posting there.
Neal had people standing by to answer questions sometimes.
Except when A SH Dev was beating on a guy with a GWX shirt!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If you missed that?
You missed a classic!!
:rock:
Sailor Steve
10-14-08, 12:51 AM
And it wasn't even a GWX guy! I just...I mean he just stole the shirt!
OUCH!
Steeltrap
10-14-08, 06:17 PM
Well I'm here a few times most days. I pop in between doing various things at work.
Monica Lewinsky
10-14-08, 08:18 PM
In the past couple days the number of people on the forums has plunged! What's going on? :cry:
Gone Fishing:
http://learnabit.homeserver.com//lab/fishing.wmv
Maserati
10-14-08, 08:43 PM
Re-learning the "don't shoot at destroyers" lesson. Again.
Loading up now on the new rig; 3.08 GHz QuadCore Xeon, 8800GT, starter set of 2 GB RAM (it's a MacPro, also a useful machine). TIA to anyone seeding the GWX2.1 torrent.
papa_smurf
10-16-08, 03:14 PM
Im still here, try to get on every few days or so. Not so easy with my current work shift.
I think by "Where is everybody", you mostly meant "Where are Sailor Steve, privateer and jimbuna?"
Well, they're back now and accounting for a good half of the posts in this forum, I see :p
Laufen zum Ziel
10-16-08, 03:52 PM
I am on every day However I too was starting
to get a little worried. I am not used to seeing less
then 90 viewers on SH3.......
HansVonBeehan
10-16-08, 04:01 PM
Im new here so its good! :)
SH3/4 ftw:D XD
:up: Lets Rock on people!
Beside that, most of the Boys are on Patrol!
I can hardly say to my IWO: "Take over for a bit, I'm going to post a few messages on a Yanks board!":doh:
:rotfl:
I check the forums most everyday, but I just don't have much to say. :oops:
Wolfehunter
10-17-08, 09:22 AM
Hmmm I'm playing SH3 and some other games... too busy to talk.. Ah I mean write.:p
Hanomag
10-17-08, 10:30 AM
Don't worry! I have a plan.....
I am going to start posting random nonsense soon, just to up my overall number of posts!!
Watch for my up and coming Wow!... That's really kewl!... and the ever popular Sorry I can't help you.. posts! :doh:
Jimbuna
10-17-08, 12:06 PM
Don't worry! I have a plan.....
I am going to start posting random nonsense soon, just to up my overall number of posts!!
Watch for my up and coming Wow!... That's really kewl!... and the ever popular Sorry I can't help you.. posts! :doh:
Just don't go showing off that cannon you call a gun here http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6049/weaponso0o07qhy9zv2.gif
Even with the Susim meeting survivors back at their posts, there seems to be less people at the forums. :roll:
Task Force
10-17-08, 04:03 PM
I kind if noticed the decline of people for a while there, then it went up.
richardphat
10-17-08, 05:00 PM
I also noticed the active people have dropped from 100 to 50 and it has been for some day or even more. But i think Heck yea they'll come back when they know the release for christmas........ right private:up: ?
Graf Paper
10-17-08, 06:16 PM
Well, I spent the summer away from SH3 and Subsim with a game server project I was helping my nephews set up and learn.
Now that school is back in session and things have settled down, I'm back.
Not that it necessarily counts for much. :roll:
Even with the Susim meeting survivors back at their posts, there seems to be less people at the forums. :roll:
That's the financial crisis, I heard "Tom the electrician" is having a hard time filling his U-Boot diesel tank :D
Nice barb!;)
Guess he has to team up with "Joe the Plumber"!
Adriatico
10-18-08, 04:57 PM
I'm afraid that poor old SH3, all togather with GWX, is losing the race with time-wheel...
Despite it's gameplay... visuals are far away from Oct 2008 standards...
Thanks God that OLC gave some visual-life to this great sim.
Just hope that Privateer and wolves understand that only visual improvement could "save the patient"...
Everything else in GWX3 would be surplus effort for 2009... gameplay is already fine, for the last two years...
Can't beleive that SDK for SH3 is secret...:rotfl:
...or SH5 is closer than we think ?
:know:
Jimbuna
10-20-08, 08:32 AM
I'm afraid that poor old SH3, all togather with GWX, is losing the race with time-wheel...
Despite it's gameplay... visuals are far away from Oct 2008 standards...
Thanks God that OLC gave some visual-life to this great sim.
Just hope that Privateer and wolves understand that only visual improvement could "save the patient"...
Everything else in GWX3 would be surplus effort for 2009... gameplay is already fine, for the last two years...
Can't beleive that SDK for SH3 is secret...:rotfl:
...or SH5 is closer than we think ?
:know:
Considering the number of people playing GWX and taking into account the fact that some peoples computer specs don't afford them the ability to play SH4, I envisage many people playing GWX3 well into 2009 and beyond.
With regard to the SDK:
Even if it were released tomorrow, it would be of little use now, apart from allowing one or two tweaks to be made to obstacles that have never been overcome thus far.
Too much work (from a GWX perspective) has been undertaken to the SH3 game engine and would need to be undone first before any remedial work could be performed.
The game engine in SH4 should hopefully give a lot more scope for modding purposes
During the Grand Sumsim Meeting someone wrote there was a drop in attendance on this forum.
Someone else mentioned that this was due to people being in Houston.
Now, the Houston survivors are back. but forum numbers are nearly half of what they used to be even in the early days of SH-4 and the grand exodus to the Pacific.
Maybe we need to dig and revive the Who is keeping the honor of the U-boats thread.
What is going on?
GoldenRivet
10-28-08, 08:30 PM
<<<<< Lazy lately. :shifty:
oh... and starting up my business.
so my decline in posts is justified and explained.
now how about the rest of you slackers?
Foghladh_mhara
10-28-08, 09:26 PM
Well this slacker got transferred to a job away from home where he actually has to work :cry: Quite a shock to the system I can tell ya. And to add injury to insult I'm on the night shift roster as well. Haven't seen daylight for months now!
Mind you when I logged in tonight and saw this thread it prompted me to look at my last post. It was back in March!! I didn't realise it was so long since I was here.
I will do better :D
richardphat
10-28-08, 09:34 PM
Staying at house studying-sleeping-homeworks-and exams.
Everything which qualifies for a no-life!:p
Should we make u-boot battle and competition over multplayer and stuff like that? Maybe people are more interested to play and get to subsim and post message and comes talkative? But im not sure that will works....... sh3 online is not very popular. :nope:
Maybe the graet hope of GWX Gold will resurrect this forum?
rifleman13
10-28-08, 10:01 PM
Recently been back, because of some RL issues....;)
Maybe the graet hope of GWX Gold will resurrect this forum?
Hell ya! Bring it on!
GWX 3.0! :arrgh!::rock:GWX. 3.0! :arrgh!::rock:
Graf Paper
10-29-08, 12:48 AM
As I have explained recently, I was away over the summer because my computer and time was tied up with helping my nephews learning about how to compile, configure, modify, and admin a server for a game they love to play.
:lurk:
It was probably the last go at having such fun with them as the usual distractions and diseases of being a teenager have begun to set in and I go from being the "cool" uncle to just the "crazy old" uncle. :roll:
I plan on playing SH3 until the wheels fall off, so to speak. After all, it's a long way to go until 1945 and I'd like to try a career with at least one variant of each u-boat type as my primary boat, after I complete my main career that moves forward with improvements in u-boat technology. Then there's the monsun boats, Mediterranean, Black Sea, Indian Ocean, and long-haul Type IX missions to the Americas and Carribean.
And that's just with GWX! I still have NYGM, WAC, Frontflotille, and AOTD to explore, not to mention trying out online multiplayer missions. :yep:
I'd like to see an online flotilla for us old sea dogs to have as a gathering place.
I also should mention that I've noticed an influx of new recruits in the past week or two. It's easy to spot some because they're asking about using old mods that are still linked in the Subsim website. There's even been one or two familiar names that have made their presence known recently.
It wouldn't surprise me if I were the one to turn out the lights as I'm the last out the door. Until then, Brag, let's break out the bottle and toast our victories, escapes, and absent friends in service to our beloved virtual Ubootwaffe! :()1:
I'm back now but my heart has never left the North Atlantic and probably never will. :arrgh!:
danurve
10-29-08, 08:41 AM
...
What is going on?
Archery Season
Turkey Season
Deer Season
Football Season
Not to mention work, broken toe, getting ready for winter.
Brag, let's break out the bottle and toast our victories, escapes, and absent friends in service to our beloved virtual Ubootwaffe! :()1:
I'm back now but my heart has never left the North Atlantic and probably never will. :arrgh!:
I'll drink to that. PROSIT, Kaleuns!:()1: :()1: :()1: :()1:
Maybe people are busy with their patrols and don't have the time to write. I'm sure we'll have a flood of patrol reports soon. :D
Now that I've mentioned it, gotta go and sink some ships...
Task Force
10-29-08, 02:38 PM
Aaaah, I havent been slacking...:rotfl:
Havokflight
10-29-08, 04:01 PM
"... monsun boats, Mediterranean, Black Sea, Indian Ocean, and long-haul Type IX missions to the Americas and Carribean. And that's just with GWX! I still have NYGM, WAC, Frontflotille, and AOTD ..."
Okay, so i am new HERE ... but I have a LOT of xp with Ubisoft simulators (mostly flight), but I was a long time SHII and AotD player. In fact AotD got me to play AotP and AoE so it now comes full circle .... sub sims to flight sims and back to sub sims.
Is there a thread that discusses the relative merits and contents of the various Uber-mods that you listed ... or the added patrols that are listed ? Sort of a clearing house for them ... yes i have seen the thread with all the mods listed ... but that is more of a warehouse for mods ... I am looking for a storefront with a little advertising, a screen shot, and a short description of what makes WAC different from GWX and or NYGM ... ? :hmm:
Sailor Steve
10-29-08, 04:17 PM
The SH4 boards aren't that busy either. Those of you who are fairly new only know what it's like when something big has been released. The way it is now is fairly normal for in-between-the-next-big-thing times.
Red Heat
10-29-08, 04:33 PM
Brag, let's break out the bottle and toast our victories, escapes, and absent friends in service to our beloved virtual Ubootwaffe! :()1:
I'm back now but my heart has never left the North Atlantic and probably never will. :arrgh!:
I'll drink to that. PROSIT, Kaleuns!:()1: :()1: :()1: :()1:
Very well said, mate...
Do you mind if i join at your table, Kaleus? :|\\
It is always a pleasure to have drink with a few good men of the U-boatwaffe
Steeltrap
10-29-08, 10:44 PM
Not everyone posts things when they visit, of course.
Considering me as an example, I've been a member here for longer than just about any regularly posting skipper (even earlier than Sailor Steve!! :o ), yet compare my post count with a lot of others......
Graf Paper
10-29-08, 11:28 PM
You're just one of those steely-eyed men of few words, Steeltrap. You'll say what you have to say when you've got to say it. :lol:
Now where's that cute frenchie in the red dress? We need some music! :arrgh!:
:()1::()1::()1::()1:
http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/g/GrafPaper/128692/zgaushbcoe.jpg
I'm still here veryday as usual. Must try to get a life one of these days...:roll:
Graf Paper
10-30-08, 02:02 AM
I've heard those can be seriously overrated and not worth the expense, TarJak. So don't feel as if you're missing out on too much. :p
CptGrayWolf
10-30-08, 02:58 AM
Well I have another theory. Now, I don't want to cause any trouble. But I'll say it anyways. There's one person (whom I don't even remember seeing a year ago) that walks around the SHIII forum like he owns the place. Posting like his word is the gospel truth and even (what I think) semi-hijacks threads with his own stories etc...
Now, this can be a huge turn off to 'quieter' posters who don't like overbearing people. I'm not going to mention any names, I'm pretty sure the person recognizes himself anyways.
Just a thought... Maybe I'm way off.
She-Wolf
10-30-08, 04:44 AM
Guess I had better add my name to this post, and 'fess up, as (in case you hadn't noticed), I have been an absentee for some months ( tho' as you see, I am back now).
Real life gets in the way, that's it and all about for me. Perhaps tho, some folks just get um... bored, and want to try something else for a while. If so, I am sure they will come back sooner or later - call of the sea and all that :)
Captain Nemo
10-30-08, 04:55 AM
Not everyone posts things when they visit, of course.
Considering me as an example, I've been a member here for longer than just about any regularly posting skipper (even earlier than Sailor Steve!! :o ), yet compare my post count with a lot of others......
Same here. I read lots of the posts in most parts of subsim but don't find it necessary to post a lot myself.
Nemo
flakmonkey
10-30-08, 05:06 AM
Maybe folks are off playing other games, its been a crazy month for games so far, my wallet is not so happy:cry:
Games released this month:
Deadspace/Fable2/Far Cry2/Fallout3/LBP + a bunch of others.
And next month looks just as full with Gears2/Mirrors edge and COD:World at war etc...
Its getting harder to find the time to play sh3, it`ll pick up in the new year when everyones bored with the pre-christmas console stuff and goes back to subsimming.
coronas
10-30-08, 06:06 AM
I visit everyday Subsim. I like see and read old goodfellows but I donīt post always.
:sunny:
Contact
10-30-08, 07:38 AM
what u're crying about, u're still got me :smug: :lol:
Vacillator
10-30-08, 08:23 AM
Maybe folks are off playing other games
Okay I confess. The excellent work of the modding guys at AllAircraftArcade has forced me back into my Il2 habit in quite a big way. However, I've just started a Med-based career in a new VIIB - currently at 12,000 tons for 3 torpedoes ;)
Red Heat
10-30-08, 08:36 AM
You're just one of those steely-eyed men of few words, Steeltrap. You'll say what you have to say when you've got to say it. :lol:
Now where's that cute frenchie in the red dress? We need some music! :arrgh!:
:()1::()1::()1::()1:
http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/g/GrafPaper/128692/zgaushbcoe.jpg
The Tipperay if you dont mind, Herr Kaleu... :lol:
Sailor Steve
10-30-08, 12:05 PM
Not everyone posts things when they visit, of course.
Considering me as an example, I've been a member here for longer than just about any regularly posting skipper (even earlier than Sailor Steve!! :o ), yet compare my post count with a lot of others......
But that's because you have a real life. This is the only life I know.:sunny:
Graf Paper
10-30-08, 12:08 PM
This isn't real life?!?!!11!uno :huh:
sunvalleyslim
10-30-08, 12:28 PM
I let Sailor Steve do all the postings for me.........:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Jimbuna
10-30-08, 12:30 PM
Sounds like we need another GWX fix........Dec 24th http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5871/animation1xx5.gif
Task Force
10-30-08, 01:31 PM
Yep I have a semi real life now, I fly planes In IL2 from 5 pm till I go to sleep (usualy on MP) I still play SH3 and 4 though.:yep:
iambecomelife
10-31-08, 03:02 PM
Woohoo! Almost 900 visitors right now...
Task Force
10-31-08, 03:08 PM
Its because its no longer summer, everyones in hibernation. Except us ofcourse.:lol:
HuskerNlincoln
10-31-08, 03:58 PM
I am one of the newer capt's on the stage, but I am checking in. I probably spend 4 hours a day with SH3 related things,
I have recently loaded SH4 and quite honestly the only thing I do with it, is to wonder why it doesn't look as good to me as 3 and what is all the fuss about?
I think that the upcoming gwx 3 will resurrect this game as long as the graphics are on par with whats out there right now.
Why would anyone want to go to SH4 when the first thing they are doing is trying to make it a Uboat game. SH3 is perfectly good, has a great engine to it, the mods that have been created by all of you have breathed new life into it.
When asked why I play it,, I cant say anything but it looks great and the action is perfect.:rock:
Havokflight
10-31-08, 06:20 PM
Husker, I was wondering the same thing myself. I bought new copies of both from Amazon, loaded one at work and one at home ... now I am wishing I loeded two copies of SH3.
Commander Gizmo
10-31-08, 10:18 PM
I got SH4 when it first came out (almost the first day), and havn't played it since the first day. I installed it, launched it, visited Ubisoft's site for patches. When I saw none I just said, "This sucks! Where's GWX? I'll wait until GWX comes out for SH4." I'm still waiting.
Back on topic...
I think by "Where is everybody", you mostly meant "Where are Sailor Steve, privateer and jimbuna?"
Well, they're back now and accounting for a good half of the posts in this forum, I see :p
I think I must be about a quarter of the 'everybody'. I was hoping no one would notice my 102 posts in the past 11 days. I guess I had a lot to say (which probably shouldn't have been).
Graf Paper
10-31-08, 11:06 PM
Only 102 posts in 11 days? :huh:
Slacker! :stare:
We're still out here. Just check in now and again. Don't always post something.
Oblt Heinrich Beck
U-379
29 Flotilla, La Spezia
March 1942
3rd patrol south of Sicily
-SWCowboy.
11-01-08, 11:09 AM
I'm still here, I just do a lot of lurking and private messaging these days. :cool: :lurk:
Jimbuna
11-01-08, 11:54 AM
I'm still here, I just do a lot of lurking and private messaging these days. :cool: :lurk:
....and I'm awaiting your arrival on the GWX TS server http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/wacko.gif
The game engine in SH4 should hopefully give a lot more scope for modding purposes
Jim, care to elaborate? :hmm:
Jimbuna
11-01-08, 05:31 PM
The game engine in SH4 should hopefully give a lot more scope for modding purposes
Jim, care to elaborate? :hmm:
Nope....not right now :lol:
As already stated by Privateer, work has commenced on GWX4, but we are also preparing GWX3.o for release. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5871/animation1xx5.gif
Ha! staying on thread. The numbers in the forum are coming back up. :arrgh!:
:rotfl:
You're surely tight lipped about that, Jim. Not that I blame you!! :up:
But I wasn't asking about that.
I always assumed that SH4 is just and "updated engine" of SH3. So when you said it "more scope for modding" I assumed then, that SH4 is easier to mod!:hmm:
We are seing a rebound in people on the forum. Lurkers, do join in! :D
Jimbuna
11-01-08, 05:45 PM
:rotfl:
You're surely tight lipped about that, Jim. Not that I blame you!! :up:
But I wasn't asking about that.
I always assumed that SH4 is just and "updated engine" of SH3. So when you said it "more scope for modding" I assumed then, that SH4 is easier to mod!:hmm:
Too early to say.
Where it does win hands down (to name but one example) is in the loading times.
SH3 loads everything at the outset while SH4 loads bite size chunks.
ReallyDedPoet
11-01-08, 06:15 PM
Brag I merged your thread with this one :yep:
RDP
Erich dem Roten
11-02-08, 03:20 PM
It's mid-semester for me, so I can't spend as much time as I would like goofing with mods and such. As a result, I have far fewer questions to ask.
Also I bought an HDTV for the first time, my TV for the past ten years has been a little 19" guy that has color/tint issues and occasionally makes quirky sounds. That may have something to do with much of my spare time.
Steeltrap
11-02-08, 05:48 PM
Not everyone posts things when they visit, of course.
Considering me as an example, I've been a member here for longer than just about any regularly posting skipper (even earlier than Sailor Steve!! :o ), yet compare my post count with a lot of others......
But that's because you have a real life. This is the only life I know.:sunny:
No, it's because I have a real life that I come here......to get away from it!!
Puster Bill
11-03-08, 03:15 PM
...
What is going on?
Archery Season
Turkey Season
Deer Season
Football Season
Not to mention work, broken toe, getting ready for winter.
I'll second some of that: I spent a good portion of late summer/early fall getting ready for, and going hunting.
It's just like playing SHIII, but without those annoying depth charges, and you get to eat what you sink.
-SWCowboy.
11-03-08, 05:38 PM
I would've been hunting a lot this year, but my daughter's due in 4 weeks so I had to push it back for a while.
I can only imagine my wife calling me and saying it's time to go just as my crosshairs hit that monster buck :nope: I would be ticked... :damn: ...so I'll wait for Spring Turkey season. :D
Monica Lewinsky
11-03-08, 08:08 PM
...so I'll wait for Spring Turkey season.
I would've been hunting a lot this year.
http://learnabit.homeserver.com/lab/turkey.jpg
Wait and look around your house before you shoot. Don't trust ANY lamp that you use in your house. Turn on the power, if it does not light, SHOOT IT!, then roast it and eat it.
-SWCowboy.
11-03-08, 08:40 PM
LMAO!!! :rotfl:
I could just imagine what the neighbors would think if a load of pellets went right through their wall!! :lol: I'll see you after my sentencing! :nope:
StarFox
11-03-08, 09:16 PM
I have not been around for about 6 months until now....
I had a successful campaign going starting in 39, and my computer bit the dust. My new system is far more powerful, but work and school prevented me from getting back into the game. So I'm stuck right now, until winter break comes
being able to be silent is typical of the u-boot man ;)
difool2
11-07-08, 03:35 PM
Forum members logged on right now has skyrocketed through the roof-or perhaps lurkers are now counted?
Sailor Steve
11-07-08, 05:51 PM
Lurkers have always been counted.
Currently Active Skippers: 1516 (357 Captains and 1159 stowaways)
Kpt. Lehmann
11-07-08, 05:58 PM
Heck! If anything, there are a great many more Subsim forum users online now than have been for a long time! (More than 1500 at the time of this post.) :cool:
Strange that there are still usually more people in the SH3 forums than the SH4 forums.
Hanomag
11-07-08, 07:04 PM
Strange that there are still usually more people in the SH3 forums than the SH4 forums.
DOH! :o
Strange that there are still usually more people in the SH3 forums than the SH4 forums.
SH5's under way if they put U-boots the tendence'll fastly reverse ;)
McHibbins
11-07-08, 11:36 PM
Not important but still here...:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Jimbuna
11-08-08, 07:13 AM
Strange that there are still usually more people in the SH3 forums than the SH4 forums.
Yep.....there's still plenty of life in the old girl.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5871/animation1xx5.gif
Wildhawke11
11-09-08, 11:12 PM
This old timer is still around.
The Atlantic and the U-Boats will always be i think my first love. I still have fond memories of Aces of the Deep. Recently i had a bit of a clear out of really old computers games among other stuff. When i picked up that old game although i know i will never play it again i just did not have the heart to get rid of it. It almost seemed i was throwing an old friend away. Sad really spending so much time playing a computer game. I guess most people would tell us to get a life. Most don't and never will understand that we don't play this simulation, we are in fact in it.
In the last couple of weeks, attendance at the forums has skyrocketed. :D
Jimbuna
11-10-08, 12:00 PM
Long may it last...wouldn't want it to end like this :lol:
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3075/imamrockettx8.gif
PappyCain
11-10-08, 06:59 PM
This old timer is still around.
The Atlantic and the U-Boats will always be i think my first love. I still have fond memories of Aces of the Deep. Recently i had a bit of a clear out of really old computers games among other stuff. When i picked up that old game although i know i will never play it again i just did not have the heart to get rid of it. It almost seemed i was throwing an old friend away. Sad really spending so much time playing a computer game. I guess most people would tell us to get a life. Most don't and never will understand that we don't play this simulation, we are in fact in it. Wildhawke11
Same Here! Aces of the Deep was an old favorite and yes "we don't play this simulation, we are in fact in it." Well Stated!
S'PC
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