I'm just speechless...

[SteamWake]

Ive come to the conclusion that there are only a few posters whom participate in the political diatribe here.

They appear to be hard coded and no swaying their point of view.

Therefore I have decided to quit wasting my breath.

As a parting gesture I thought I would post this. If this doesent make you question Obama's motives, associations, and agenda you never will

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77539

[Tchocky]

And the KKK are supporting John McCain.
Trial-by-endorser does not make sense.

[August]

And the KKK are supporting John McCain.
Trial-by-endorser does not make sense.

You have any proof of that, or are you just making it up?

[Tchocky]

It's a usual trick of theirs, to throw their miniscule but high-profile weight behind a candidate or law.
We changed citizenship laws here a few years ago, and there was a congratulatory letter from David Duke in the Irish Times.

I recall seeing a video endorsement. I'll chase it up later when I'mm not on a work computer :p

THe important point here is to recognise that Farrakhan is Farrakhan, not an Obama campaign spokesman or possible Cabinet member, or indeed anyone likely to hold sway in a possible Obama adminstration.

Judging a candidate's motives by his most extreme supporters is an exercise in mind-numbing stupidity.

[Skybird]

Ive come to the conclusion that there are only a few posters whom participate in the political diatribe here.

They appear to be hard coded and no swaying their point of view.

Therefore I have decided to quit wasting my breath.

I don't know what you want, you are free to sway your point of view whenever you want. ;)

As a parting gesture I thought I would post this. If this doesent make you question Obama's motives, associations, and agenda you never will

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77539

Why big "gestures" - that are more like a volley than a gesture - when you want to quit anyway? :hmm:

[August]

It's a usual trick of theirs, to throw their miniscule but high-profile weight behind a candidate or law.
We changed citizenship laws here a few years ago, and there was a congratulatory letter from David Duke in the Irish Times.

I recall seeing a video endorsement. I'll chase it up later when I'mm not on a work computer :p

THe important point here is to recognise that Farrakhan is Farrakhan, not an Obama campaign spokesman or possible Cabinet member, or indeed anyone likely to hold sway in a possible Obama adminstration.

Judging a candidate's motives by his most extreme supporters is an exercise in mind-numbing stupidity.

Don't try to weasel out of it. You said the KKK has endorsed McCain. Either provide some proof or admit you are making it up.

[Flamingboat]

Don't try to weasel out of it. You said the KKK has endorsed McCain. Either provide some proof or admit you are making it up.

Oh come on man, do we really need to go take a survey to see that the KKK is not backing a black man for president?

[Biggles]

It's a usual trick of theirs, to throw their miniscule but high-profile weight behind a candidate or law.
We changed citizenship laws here a few years ago, and there was a congratulatory letter from David Duke in the Irish Times.

I recall seeing a video endorsement. I'll chase it up later when I'mm not on a work computer :p

THe important point here is to recognise that Farrakhan is Farrakhan, not an Obama campaign spokesman or possible Cabinet member, or indeed anyone likely to hold sway in a possible Obama adminstration.

Judging a candidate's motives by his most extreme supporters is an exercise in mind-numbing stupidity.

Don't try to weasel out of it. You said the KKK has endorsed McCain. Either provide some proof or admit you are making it up.

Please forgive me for poking in other peoples business but....

http://www.236.com/feed/2008/05/22/kkk_supports_john_mccainsort_o_6707.php

Maybe it's true then?

[AVGWarhawk]

Don't try to weasel out of it. You said the KKK has endorsed McCain. Either provide some proof or admit you are making it up.
Oh come on man, do we really need to go take a survey to see that the KKK is not backing a black man for president?

I think this is a given. I really do not see the KKK showing up to support Obama. Come on guys, have you started drinking early again?

[Hylander_1314]

And let's not drag this into a race issue. The KKK are about as low as anyone can get. And since they hide behind masks, doesn't that make them not only a racist group, but a terrorist group as well? But they are just a wacky as any hate group.

[PeriscopeDepth]

Ive come to the conclusion that there are only a few posters whom participate in the political diatribe here.

They appear to be hard coded and no swaying their point of view.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Political argument on the Interwebs consists of the right calling the left commies/terrorists and the left calling the right fascists. It's a well established fact.

PD

[AVGWarhawk]

Ive come to the conclusion that there are only a few posters whom participate in the political diatribe here.

They appear to be hard coded and no swaying their point of view.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Political argument on the Interwebs consists of the right calling the left commies/terrorists and the left calling the right fascists. It's a well established fact.

PD

It does seem to be the status quo. Are we really looking to sway someone or just make them think a bit more about the choice and make a educated decision. The same as the debates are supposed to do. Unfortunate the latest debates have not done much but take up 90 minutes of good commercial time for the networks.

[PeriscopeDepth]

[quote=SteamWake]Ive come to the conclusion that there are only a few posters whom participate in the political diatribe here.

They appear to be hard coded and no swaying their point of view.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Political argument on the Interwebs consists of the right calling the left commies/terrorists and the left calling the right fascists. It's a well established fact.

PD
It does seem to be the status quo. Are we really looking to sway someone or just make them think a bit more about the choice and make a educated decision. I think it's just far too easy to be rude and make snide/outlandish remarks that one would never make in a face to face conversation. And then the other side does it back. And then the "debate" degenerates from there. I think this is even more so true in today's highly polarized partisan environment.

The same as the debates are supposed to do. Unfortunate the latest debates have not done much but take up 90 minutes of good commercial time for the networks. Presidential debates are something different. They are "professionally moderated" exchanges between the candidates and viewed by millions. But still, it is debatable exactly how much televised debates influence people and who exactly.

PD

[August]

Please forgive me for poking in other peoples business but....

http://www.236.com/feed/2008/05/22/kkk_supports_john_mccainsort_o_6707.php

Maybe it's true then?

So if I hide my face and post an anonymous video about the KKK supporting Obama maybe that's true?

A video surfaces of an alleged KKK member saying his "organization" supports John McCain

[August]

I think this is a given. I really do not see the KKK showing up to support Obama. Come on guys, have you started drinking early again?

I didn't say who individual kkk members are likely or not to vote for, I was talking about who the ORGANIZATION has ENDORSED. Big difference.

[Biggles]

So if I hide my face and post an anonymous video about the KKK supporting Obama maybe that's true?


yeah, maybe it is. What would I know? I'm no expert in what you consider to be the "truth". Truth for the KKK is rather different than truth for me, I can assure you that.

[Letum]

I think this is a given. I really do not see the KKK showing up to support Obama. Come on guys, have you started drinking early again?
I didn't say who individual kkk members are likely or not to vote for, I was talking about who the ORGANIZATION has ENDORSED. Big difference.

Perhaps a big difference, but in this particular circumstance a bit of an academic one.

[August]

I think this is a given. I really do not see the KKK showing up to support Obama. Come on guys, have you started drinking early again?
I didn't say who individual kkk members are likely or not to vote for, I was talking about who the ORGANIZATION has ENDORSED. Big difference.
Perhaps a big difference, but in this particular circumstance a bit of an academic one.

Not so academic when you start tossing accusations like that in an attempt to affect the election.

[August]

But on the othe hand Obama seems to make quite a habit of associating with the wrong people:

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525564.aspx
The Obama campaign’s Muslim outreach director participated in a meeting in mid September that was attended by several controversial Muslim activists, NBC News has learned. The Obama campaign now concedes that was a misjudgment, and that its top Muslim staffer would not have attended the meeting if she had known the full participant list beforehand.

[Tchocky]

Don't try to weasel out of it. You said the KKK has endorsed McCain. Either provide some proof or admit you are making it up.
Erm, calm down please. It may be possible that i am telling the truth.

I didn't feel comfortable searching for Klan-related topics when I was at work. Say what you will about posting on submarine forums, but I'm not going to have my boss asking me what all this Klan stuff is.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ez2C4GwqE4) is what I recall seeing.

The letter in the Irish Times I mentioned is fact. David Duke congratulated the Justice Minister for keeping the Irish race pure.

[Kapt Z]

And the KKK are supporting John McCain.
Trial-by-endorser does not make sense.

You have any proof of that, or are you just making it up?

You're right, the KKK are supporting the black candidate.....:doh: