View Full Version : Submarine in trouble UKJKS
Kapitan
10-08-08, 08:40 AM
from the sunn newspaper
The British nuclear submarine HMS Trafalgar has offically been reported missing while on routine exercises in the atlantic this morning.
Fears are brought about by her training escorts HMS Marlborough and USS Thatch as they have not heard from the submarine in two days.
The last communication with the vessel two days ago indicated they may have had a problem with thier air supply systems, several hours later when the Trafalgar known affectionatly as Traffie failed to report in on the days exercise.
It comes as a shock and surprise not only to the Royal navy who untill now have not lost a nuclear submarine, but also to the crews families, an all out air and sea search and rescue mission has been implemented by the U.S navy and the British Royal air force.
Fears are growing for the safety of the crew onboard as the cold waters of the Atlantic would mean any person who has managed to escape could have just hours in thier survival suits.
The submarine was practicing routine training exercises with both the Thatch and Marlborough which were due to last another three days, the families of the 107 crew have been notified and a sister submarine HMS Triumph is also on the search for the missing submarine.
The first sea lord was quoted saying this morning in a press confrence "we hope and pray the crew and submarine is safe and well it would be a devastating loss to the Navy should she be lost"
HMS Trafalgar was built in barrow and furness in 1983 and has served with the Royal navy since her commissioning in 1984, based in devenport she is the flagship of the 2nd submarine division and carries the latest spearfish torpedos and tomahawk cruise missiles.
The location of her dissapearance is unknown the Royal navy is refusing to state her exact where abouts but we believe that she is near the American coast for training with U.S ships and aircraft.
:o wow........ i hope thay are ok.
UnderseaLcpl
10-08-08, 08:44 AM
Whoa. :o
I'll be praying for their safe recovery if they are in trouble.
Raptor1
10-08-08, 08:46 AM
Indeed, hope they find the submarine and the crew soon
Konovalov
10-08-08, 08:48 AM
Is this not a tall tale? I haven't seen any news story on this at all. Are you pulling peoples chains onthis one? In some ways it ain't funny if so.
I thought that HMS Trafalgar was being decommed soon?
Onkel Neal
10-08-08, 08:49 AM
Link?
Konovalov
10-08-08, 08:52 AM
I'm calling this as BS and quite frankly I ain't impressed. :down:
If it's true I pray for the crew.
If untrue, as it seems, someone should wake up in the brig. :down:
Kapitan have a history of mixing up reality and his own imagined fleet adventurs in subsims...
I haven't seen anything from the Sun's website, either. And they don't tend to be the most reputable source to start with...
Last HMS was mentioned there however was this rather unflattering article: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article87613.ece
Sure makes you worry about this time, huh...
Well, we'll see. It better not be true.
Konovalov
10-08-08, 09:01 AM
I'm sticking with my original claim on this. A tall tale in bad taste.
HMS Marlborough was a Type 23 frigate that was decommissioned years ago. In fact she was sold to the navy of Chile in 2006 or 2007.
This thread is a load of poo poo! :nope: :nope: :nope:
And even a reporter at the Sun should be able to run the text through spell checking and get rid of some "thier" etc...
:dead:
XabbaRus
10-08-08, 10:48 AM
Kapitan what are you playing at? This is pretty sick as one of your scenarios...
SteamWake
10-08-08, 10:52 AM
Cant find anything on this story anywhere. Including 'offical' channels.
Either its been covered up or the OP is full of it.
Tarrasque
10-08-08, 11:07 AM
Can't spell Thach, don't realise that HMS Marlborough is no longer with the Royal Navy.
At best Kapitan should be very careful about posting items like this without getting confirmation from multiple sources. At worst - well, I'll leave that to the moderators to deal with. :mad:
SteamWake
10-08-08, 11:17 AM
Can't spell Thach, don't realise that HMS Marlborough is no longer with the Royal Navy.
Im not one to pick on grammer or spelling but the article does not capitalize Atlantic, conference is misspelled, dissaperance misspelled, hell even torpedoe is misspelled. Oh is The Sunn really spelled with two n's?
So yea... looks like a hoax. I just wonder what the motivation is.
Kapitan
10-08-08, 11:45 AM
This was something a friend of mine came up with but cant you guys read above UK JKS (UK Jokes) (it wouldnt let me write the whole shebang) it is fully fictional hence why there are delibrate spelling mistakes and the vessels involved are either tied up at dock (HMS Trafalgar) decomissioned or not even stationed in the atlantic.
The idea was to see the reaction that british people took to the loss of a submarine or major naval unit (i adapted it because it was ment to involve the carrier ark royal) so far ive had alot of negative reactions which include so what its a ship, dont care dont involve me and one odd one saying we are getting two more to replace it so what the hell.
I think this proves beyond doubt that british people obviously do not care about thier troops sailors or indeed any millatry establishment which is why i posted here to see if the international community would care, you guys obviously do to the point your willing to hang me from the nearest lamp post, but this is for research it does sound sick i know im sorry but i wanted to know what the people thought of a situation like this should it happen.
and frankly alot of people dont care about our service men and women enough.
Your not the first group ive targeted with a secnario like this infact your one from last ive reported this for the last two months getting feedback from other groups it does come at a time when moral is low in our forces and ive even asked a few service personell thier thoughts.
The reason i had to do it this way was because it had to be believable so you would comment in a normal way thus not giving a bias or diffrent reaction.
But this scenario is entirely fictitious and i ask that i can copy all the comments here posted and print them for my use if everyone is willing.
Thankyou and sorry to fool you in such a way.
SteamWake
10-08-08, 11:54 AM
Sure yea... everyone knows what UKJKS means.... :doh:
Tango589
10-08-08, 12:09 PM
I took the story as gospel and just put the spelling mistakes down to lousy typing. I'm suprised at this: I think this proves beyond doubt that british people obviously do not care about thier troops sailors or indeed any millatry establishment. Still, thank god it's ficticious.
Kapitan
10-08-08, 12:11 PM
which reminds me i didnt do that right either :doh:
Kapitan
10-08-08, 12:15 PM
If it was a major event i would have posted the links and been rather quick to do that the link that i think subman posted about trafalgar defects from the sun proves that obviously our own government doesnt care anymore which is what im trying to get at.
The british people need a big injection of patriotism because right now alot of us couldnt care less and id bet some cant even point to us on the map, which brings me to a conclusion of why the hell should any of our service men fight and die to be ignored.
As my nan said "60years ago your grandfather fought for the right to be free if he had been alive today it would have killed him" (he is deceased) i think we do take for granted all this freedom and few of us are willing to contribute towards maintaining it.
XabbaRus
10-08-08, 12:38 PM
1. I don't get text speak
2. You posted something on a forum where people have at least a cursory if not deeper knowledge and interest in submarine matters and will immediately try to verify it as real or not. Given that it was exposed as a fake pretty quickly you got the response you did.
If you posted it in a general public forum like the Sun forums then you might get a differenct reaction.
Kapitan
10-08-08, 12:49 PM
Yes your correct i did post in a few other areas my local rover owners club and also another website.
I picked this forum because i knew the reaction would be dig dig dig because you do feel the pride in your millatry and allies and also other nations.
Like myself im more a supporter of russian millatry than the UK despite the fact im from the UK i did feel alot of shock from the kursk, however the UK hasnt lost a nuclear submarine or a submarine for a long time so i dont think we understand the issue of it to well as a ordinary person.
Scorpion thresher kursk provoked a national out cry yet we lost 8 ships in the falklands and not even got close to a sneeze we have lulled ourselves into a false confidence and this is what i am trying to understand.
"Experiment", Hoax, Joke, whatever else; this was in poor taste. :nope:
Skybird
10-08-08, 02:55 PM
Did I read this right: he did this for what he labelled as "research"?
Strange methodology, then. I have seen psychological thought experiences that were less ill-constructed.
SteamWake
10-08-08, 03:15 PM
Did I read this right: he did this for what he labelled as "research"?.
In other words... trolling.
Monica Lewinsky
10-08-08, 04:17 PM
The idea was to see the reaction that british people took to the loss of a submarine or major naval unit
Observation for the other side of the pond ... REAL BAD idea. Like crying "fire" in a theatre where there is no fire.
At least we know he hasn't joined the ranks of the missing.
Kapitan
10-08-08, 04:48 PM
it isnt that well put together admitidly but do you agree though that patriotism in the UK is at an all time low ? as well as the fact many people just dont care?
opinions would be nice please.
Red Heat
10-08-08, 05:06 PM
For me its a very bad taste joke...i didnt apreciated, sorry...no escuse! :nope:
Good night!!!!
Skybird
10-08-08, 05:10 PM
it isnt that well put together admitidly but do you agree though that patriotism in the UK is at an all time low ? as well as the fact many people just dont care?
opinions would be nice please.
Kapitan,
just let it rest. You can only make it worse this time.
GoldenRivet
10-08-08, 05:10 PM
wow.
Im at a loss for words.
not even for the sake of research should such a thing be posted if untrue.
it is blatantly disgusting no matter what your motivations may have been.
I have seen 6 year old children who have displayed better judgment. :nope:
edit: and then to try and mask your foolishness and change the subject by chocking it up to an "experiment" and dragging the "troops" and "patriotism" into it.
sad... pathetic... inexcusable.
it isnt that well put together admitidly but do you agree though that patriotism in the UK is at an all time low ? as well as the fact many people just dont care?
opinions would be nice please.
Something is certainly at a all time low in the UK if this is the kind of thread that comes out of it. :shifty:
it isnt that well put together admitidly but do you agree though that patriotism in the UK is at an all time low ? as well as the fact many people just dont care?
opinions would be nice please.
Something is certainly at a all time low in the UK if this is the kind of thread that comes out of it. :shifty:
Oh so true :doh:
baggygreen
10-08-08, 07:05 PM
ok, enough of a ribbing on kapitan, shows over, nothing more to see.
its the first "bad" post i've really seen from him in years. no more dwelling on it hey?
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