CHESS: Skybird vs. Letum

[Skybird]

If I am not too tedious an opponent, your move for the next round?

Well...

1. e2-e4

[Skybird]

Leeeee - tummmmm... Leeee - tummmm...

[Letum]

e7-e5

[Skybird]

e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3

[Letum]

Nb8-c6

[Skybird]

Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4

[Letum]

Nc3xd4

[Skybird]

Nc3xd4
Assuming you meant Nc6xd4

my move 4. Nf3xd4

[GoldenRivet]

just FYI.

Im following your game on a chess board :yep:

Me = nerd :nope:

[Skybird]

Ah, an audience! :D

[Letum]

Nc3xd4 Assuming you meant Nc6xd4

my move 4. Nf3xd4

Thats why I like the old English system!
e5xd4

[Skybird]

Thats why I like the old English system!

Still don't get it. Must be something genetic.


e5xd4
mine 5. Qd1xd4

[Letum]

kn1-kb3

Try it; you might like it. ;)

[UnderseaLcpl]

<following along intently>:hmm:

[Skybird]

kn1-kb3

Try it; you might like it. ;)
that knight on the b-line I had just taken, Letum, and if you mean the other knight, then tell me so. Really, you might be wondering but I prefer the notation that all literature and match forms are written in, and so I say thanks, but no thanks, i am as interested as I am in learning Kyrillic. :lol: I accept not to speak German and not to use German symbols here, but English, and that is enough translation effort for me. ;)

[GoldenRivet]

Skybird... his move was "king's knight 1 to King's Bishop 3"

or in other words

Knight at g8 to f6

at least thats the way i understand it :up:

[fatty]

Sorry to cut in, but is anyone out there wanting to start up a new game? Go ahead and start a thread if so :up:

[Skybird]

Skybird... his move was "king's knight 1 to King's Bishop 3"

or in other words

Knight at g8 to f6

at least thats the way i understand it :up:
If so, my move 6.e5

[Skybird]

Sorry to cut in, but is anyone out there wanting to start up a new game? Go ahead and start a thread if so :up:
Get people's attention by telling what level (roughly) you are playing on! ;) Or just start a thread and see who is showing up.

[GoldenRivet]

If so, my move 6.e5

explain? :hmm:

[UnderseaLcpl]

Sorry to cut in, but is anyone out there wanting to start up a new game? Go ahead and start a thread if so :up:

I'll play you again if you don't mind the same opponent. :D

[fatty]

Get people's attention by telling what level (roughly) you are playing on! ;) Or just start a thread and see who is showing up.
Have only been playing seriously for last couple of months... Chessmaster tells me I'm rated about 1150. I'll try anyone on for size though, as long as I can learn from it :yep:

[Skybird]

If so, my move 6.e5

explain? :hmm:
If you want: in post-game analysis. :D

[Letum]

kb3-kr4
or for those less versed in English:
Nf6-h5

[Skybird]

Nf6-h5

7. g2-g4

[Letum]

q1-kr5

(Qd8-h4)

[Skybird]

q1-kr5


(Qd8-h4)

8. Bc1-e3

[Letum]

c7-c5

[Skybird]

9. Qd4-d1



Is there an easy-level-opponent for Golden Rivet out there...? :D

[GoldenRivet]

9. Qd4-d1



Is there an easy-level-opponent for Golden Rivet out there...? :D

:lol:

[Letum]

c5-c4


Is there an easy-level-opponent for Golden Rivet out there...? :D

umm...me? :D

[Skybird]

Well, ask him, maybe...!?

several good moves, it seems, a pity I can play just one.

10. g4xh5

Gluttony wins.
http://www.smileygarden.de/smilie/BigSmileys/Smileygarden_bigsmileys4.gif (http://www.smileygarden.de)

[UnderseaLcpl]

9. Qd4-d1



Is there an easy-level-opponent for Golden Rivet out there...? :D

oh oh oh ! ME! pick me! pick me!

[Skybird]

Yes Golden Rivet, pick him, pick him! I hold him tight to the ground meanwhile...

[Letum]

c4-c3

[Skybird]

10... c4-c3

What comes here...? The marching of the dwarfs?

11. Nb1xc3

Verboten!

[Letum]

kr5-k5
(Qh4-e4)

[Skybird]

(Qh4-e4)

You're dead, Letum. May want to take it back?

[Letum]

I fail to see how...

[Skybird]

Okay then...

12. Nc3xe4


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/738/image29uo8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


You trail behind by 1 queen, 1 knight and 1 pawn. I don't want to be rude, but there is no chance you can repel the attack I'm about to launch. D-line is mine, diagonal a2-f7 will be mine to my liking, g-line is mine, your king's wing is not to be defended, and you have no counterplay and no compensation at all, with your pieces locked in place, and inactive.

[Letum]

oh dear...our boards look different.
My mistake, I'm sure. I had your Queen Knight in b1.

edit: ah yes, I moved your pawn in the last move instead of the knight.

Please change my last move to Bf8-e2

[Skybird]

Please change my last move to Bf8-e2

No I won't, nor will anyone else, ever. ;)

What should it be: Be7 or Bb4?

[Letum]

Gahh! damm German system!
I can just about stand it playing white, but as black it is trying.

KB1-K2
Bf8-e7

[Skybird]

It's not a german system, as far as I do know, and it'S called algebraic system (short and long version). the descriptive system you use has been popular in english-speaking countries until after the middle of the last century, but FIDE has made it illegal now, while the temporary Professional Chess Association that broke away from FIDE but then collapsed meanwhile, also did not use it. The American chess federation, USCF, still allows it, but strongly discourages it, since literature today has almost completely transferred to the more compact short algebraic notation.

[Skybird]

That is not fair - several good moves possible, but I am allowed to pick just one.

12. Th1-g1

[Letum]

kr5-kn5

[Skybird]

I have your queen on 4th row, but I have none of your pieces on the 5th. I cant even guess what you move.

[Letum]

MY move: MY 5th row.
Not your 5th row.

Count from my side or turn your board round. :D Easy!

[Skybird]

!?!?!

Okay, I understand that you have a problem with using modern notation, and I do not see the point in your antique one.

So we make it as simple as it can get, we use ICCF code. It compares to the old four-digit displays of board computers, just that it uses no letters. Figures and actions are not marked, you just give the two numbers for the orginal field and the two numbers for the target field, that is all. The move e2-e5 translates into 5254, and the move Kc6xe7+ translates into 3657. Casteling is just marking the king'S movement. Simply use this coordinates sheet, and you're done. I just fear that any guys watching the match and having not played mail chess will be unable to follow the match anymore by just reading the moves, since the coordinates are not visually represented in their memory.

Use this for encoding and decoding:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4866/correspondencechessnotanr7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Just numerical origin and target coordinates, nothing else. Ignore all figure and action symbols. It does not get any easier. I will even skip move counters.

My move 8171

your move 84??

[Letum]

8424

[Skybird]

1213

[Letum]

2422

[Skybird]

That will break your back, Letum. From where you moved the lady, she will never return. Consider to take it back - that would use your second joker. I'll take your soul on the third opportunity, then.

[Letum]

Nah, lets play on.

[Skybird]

5142

[Letum]

5713

[Skybird]

1121

[Letum]

resignation
Good game

[Skybird]

Shake hands
;)

[porphy]

Hi

Can we have the final position on that nice wooden board perhaps, and the moves? I have been away and missed the whole thing.

cheers porphy

[GoldenRivet]

i kept up with most of the game, but the mix of systems made the game difficult to follow for a newbie like myself. especially when they changed systems toward the latter half of the game.

Im more than willing to play someone if you will start a thread and kick things off.

[Skybird]

Hi

Can we have the final position on that nice wooden board perhaps, and the moves? I have been away and missed the whole thing.

cheers porphy

BTW, Porphy, Golden Rivet is looking for a match, he says. ;)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1859/image1cd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


i kept up with most of the game, but the mix of systems made the game difficult to follow for a newbie like myself. especially when they changed systems toward the latter half of the game.

Using three different notation systems in one match certainly is no good idea. Under FIDE rules for tournaments, since two years or so disqualification would be the likely outcome.

Im more than willing to play someone if you will start a thread and kick things off.

Ask Porphy, maybe? Or Lance, Fatty. Forgive that I will not play. Best is to start the challenge as sign you look for an opponent yourself - by launching a thread. ;)

[porphy]

Hi

Thanks for the diagram Sky.
Golden rivet, I would gladly play a game, but I will be quite busy the upcoming two weeks with job and preparing for a longer vacation trip. I fear the game would suffer from my irregular subsim on-time. I will be back for more chess late November. :)

cheers porphy

[porphy]

Hi

Looked through the game. Certainly its theme is "trap the pieces" :). First the knight, then the queen getting stuck that early in the game is a bit uncommon.
I didn't get the idea behind moving the black c-pawn three times in a row to certain death though. :hmm:

Black could perhaps tried 8..., b6
as white certainly will be tempted to 9. Bg2 (or even after gxh5), black plays Bc5 and gets at least some interesting complications in return both on white moving the queen to Qd1 or Qd3.

cheers Porphy

[Skybird]

8...c5 was not a bad move, but why then c4 and c3 followed, I have no idea. However, the White options on Black'S kingside are a lethal threat, since white has the pair of bishops that could open fire on the diagonals towards the king's side any time, plus Rook on golf-line and pawns in advanced, hindering positions. Maybe f5 or g6 were in order, to clutter the upcoming attack (but at the cost of cluttering Black's king's side).

White's ideas certainly inluded Bc4 and Qf3 as a basic motive, or Rg1 and then getting something launched. However, I doubt that Black would have survived any attack. his position is already hurt, and the lack of activity of his figures allowed White to ignore structural integrity of his own position and focus on all-out attack instead.

To Letum'S defense it shall be marked that he said in the other thread that he has been out of practice since years. I was away from chess for over ten years myself and know how difficult it was to get back. I do not consider myself a good player, since at the table and playing live sees me making many errors, too. But I am a damn good analyst, and thus correspondence chess - or the kind of chess we played here - is my thing. Computer assistance for keeping record of variations allows me to analyse with many boards simultaneously. that opens options for me of which I would not have dreamed when playing traditional correspondence chess 20 years ago, with one wooden board, and a small album of pages with pocket chess boards to keep track of the actual matche'S positions, since it always were many matches simultaneously.

I play my chess engines the same way - over several days. Else I get slaughtered. In normal, dense positions without enforced variations to calculate 16 moves in advance is a little bit too much for me. :D