McCain suspends campaign!

[TarJak]

Interesting but risky move by presidential hopefule John McCain:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/mccain-halts-campaign/2008/09/25/1222217366372.html

however if McCain doesn't achieve anything in real terms, then it may prove fruitless...:hmm:

[SUBMAN1]

Obama should do the same... But wait! He doesn't care so he won't! :nope:

-S

[SteamWake]

Yes of course McCain is 'afraid' of the debate.

In spite of the fact he has invited O to debate in open forums several times and denied.

Look its time to meet a deadline. You know get things done?

But the cry's will / Have come... Now is not the time to interject presidential politcs


WTF!

[Sailor Steve]

I call BS. The Senate can screw things up fine with two of their members out for the count - they do it with less than that all the time.

This is a political move.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I call BS. The Senate can screw things up fine with two of their members out for the count - they do it with less than that all the time.

This is a political move.

The scary thing is that anyone could consider it anything but:roll: a political move.

[gAiNiAc]

McCain is an old fool and Palin is an ignorant freak. He's delaying because he has nothing.

[gAiNiAc]

Yes of course McCain is 'afraid' of the debate.

In spite of the fact he has invited O to debate in open forums several times and denied.

Look its time to meet a deadline. You know get things done?

But the cry's will / Have come... Now is not the time to interject presidential politcs


WTF!

Open your eyes.

[UnderseaLcpl]

McCain is an old fool and Palin is an ignorant freak. He's delaying because he has nothing.

O rly?

I'm no McCain fan, but I hope you remember those words in November.

McCain is dangerous, politically. He has an awful lot of Americanist crap to throw at Obama and Palin was a political masterstroke, whatever her abilities.

[gAiNiAc]

McCain is an old fool and Palin is an ignorant freak. He's delaying because he has nothing.

O rly?

I'm no McCain fan, but I hope you remember those words in November.

McCain is dangerous, politically. He has an awful lot of Americanist crap to throw at Obama and Palin was a political masterstroke, whatever her abilities.

A masterstroke of BS which seems to be the path of this once great nation. Cicero once said that for a nation standing at the abyss of corruption it is too late.

Anyhow, change can be made with bullets.

[UnderseaLcpl]

A masterstroke of BS which seems to be the path of this once great nation. Cicero once said that for a nation standing at the abyss of corruption it is too late.

Anyhow, change can be made with bullets.

Thinking that any either Obama or McCain is not a master of BS is evidence that we do indeed stand at that edge of that precipitous drop.

And yes change can be made with bullets. I hope we can fight on the same side should the day ever come. ;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

This is a political move.

Precisely ^^^ , and nothing more.


RDP

[Tchocky]

This was a real silly move for McCain. The financial crisis is not happening all at once, it's been unfolding for over a year. The numbers he's worried about are poll numbers, and this move might give him the "above politics" shine that he so badly wants and so does not deserve.

anyway

[ReallyDedPoet]

This was a real silly move for McCain. The financial crisis is not happening all at once, it's been unfolding for over a year. The numbers he's worried about are poll numbers, and this move might give him the "above politics" shine that he so badly wants and so does not deserve.

anyway

Maybe, but at this point people may see it as a move of desperation. Folks in general don't seem to be to happy about bailing out Wall Street.


RDP

[Konovalov]

I call BS. The Senate can screw things up fine with two of their members out for the count - they do it with less than that all the time.

This is a political move.
Well said. :yep:

Anyway I can't see any reason why McCain can't multi-task and do both. Both candidates have their own charter planes if they need to rush back to Washington.

Looks like one big stunt to me from McCain. Signs of a man in desperate trouble. Even the Palin buzz is starting to fade.

[Oberon]

I call BS. The Senate can screw things up fine with two of their members out for the count - they do it with less than that all the time.

This is a political move.

I'm with Steve, McCain is just trying to jump on the latest scare in the US media to score points with the punters. Clever move but transparent to all but the hickest hick. ;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

Anyway I can't see any reason why McCain can't multi-task and do both.
Yes this :yep: Isn't that a characteristic of leadership, being able to multi-task.


RDP

[TarJak]

One would think that as President McCain would not have the luxury of saying "OK I'll drop everything to work specifically on one problem." Surely the job is about solving multiple problems almost all the time.

[snakeyez]

I just wanted to add in that people here in Mississippi are PISSED about him trying to dodge the debate. The state has spent a ton of money getting the town of Oxford and campus of Ole Miss (where the debate is to be held) prepared for Friday night. A LOT of effort and planning has gone into preparing for this debate.

[Letum]

This is a political move.

All moves are political ones. ;)
That's democracy's big advantage and it's big failing.

Talking about motives other than votes is, at best, moot.

[Konovalov]

Just saw this on CNN (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/25/mccain-camp-to-propose-postponing-vp-debate-2/) that McCain campaign proposes that the VP debate be delayed. What on earth next? Delay the election. ;)

[Platapus]

Anyway I can't see any reason why McCain can't multi-task and do both.
Yes this :yep: Isn't that a characteristic of leadership, being able to multi-task.


RDP

That is why I think this stunt by McCain will backfire on him. Confessing an inability to handle two separate tasks is not the way to inspire confidence in his leadership abilities.

I can only think that McCain will use this as an excuse for not doing well in the debates. "I was distracted working on real world problems instead"

A very transparent stunt and anyone past 8th grade would see through this.

Perhaps the only thing "President" McCain could focus on is war? Someone has to break the bad news to him that the President handles more things than just fighting a war.

All the President does is multi-task. I seriously doubt that the President ever has the luxury of working only one issue at a time.

[Platapus]

Just saw this on CNN (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/25/mccain-camp-to-propose-postponing-vp-debate-2/) that McCain campaign proposes that the VP debate be delayed. What on earth next? Delay the election. ;)

What possible justification could the Republican Party have for delaying the VP debate?

Precisely what would Governor Palin be doing that would take priority?

It seems like the GOP is trying every excuse to limit the exposure of McCain and Palin from venues they can't control.

[SteamWake]

The financial crisis is not happening all at once, it's been unfolding for over a year.

LOL over a year... you can follow the beginnings right back to Jimmy Carter.

[Platapus]

The financial crisis is not happening all at once, it's been unfolding for over a year.

Unfolding for only a year. You are right SteamWake. It is a lot deeper than that.

LOL over a year... you can follow the beginnings right back to Jimmy Carter.

That's the problem with today's "sound byte" culture. Everyone is looking for the "one cause" of such issues. Well there aint none. :nope:

Economics is not that black and white.

It was caused by a combination of actions and inactions by many many people, stretching back decades.

Who is at fault? Republicans, Democrats, and Independents.

We all F-ed this up and it is up to all of us to unF this problem.

[Tchocky]

The financial crisis is not happening all at once, it's been unfolding for over a year.

LOL over a year... you can follow the beginnings right back to Jimmy Carter.
You're right, the point I intended to make was that the headline-grabbing credit crunch is not a crisis measured in hours, like something along the lines of 9/11.

[Konovalov]

I like the below analogy in response to this article (http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/09/24/did-john-mccain-throw-the-ultimate-hail-mary/) on the Christian Science Monitor website:


So, Senator McCain wants to suspend the presidential campaign and cancel the debate, huh? Reminds me of the times when I was a kid playing chess with my father, and when I saw I was losing I would “accidentally” overturn the chess board and send the pieces crashing to the floor.

The day McCain presented this desperate publicity stunt of his– in a shameless attempt to yank Senator Obama off the campaign trail and try to grab the political spotlight– was also the same day that, for the first time, Obama had grabbed the lead in a big way for the first time, with 52% of the vote in national polls. Coincidence? I don’t think so….

Couldn't have said it better. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

McCain is an old fool and Palin is an ignorant freak. He's delaying because he has nothing.


Tell us how you really feel......:rotfl:

[Tchocky]

I wnder if McCain has gone back to DC to vote against the Paulson Plan.

That would shake things up a tad.

[AVGWarhawk]

I like the below analogy in response to this article (http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/09/24/did-john-mccain-throw-the-ultimate-hail-mary/) on the Christian Science Monitor website:


So, Senator McCain wants to suspend the presidential campaign and cancel the debate, huh? Reminds me of the times when I was a kid playing chess with my father, and when I saw I was losing I would “accidentally” overturn the chess board and send the pieces crashing to the floor.

The day McCain presented this desperate publicity stunt of his– in a shameless attempt to yank Senator Obama off the campaign trail and try to grab the political spotlight– was also the same day that, for the first time, Obama had grabbed the lead in a big way for the first time, with 52% of the vote in national polls. Coincidence? I don’t think so….
Couldn't have said it better. :yep:
No, I do not agree with this statement by the Christian Science Monitor. Personally, I think Obama likes playing "Campaign". Basically, that is all he has done for years. Obama likes the crowds! From a very cool movie called Gladiator comes, "Win the crowd, win your freedom." For Obama it is win the crowd and win the presidency. Has he really shown such concern and wanting to be a part of the solution to the banking mess or would he prefer to continue to win the crowd? It looks to me like wanting to win the crowd. He needs to get Washington and do what he was elected to do for the state of Illinois. Not get groomed for his next crowd winning speech from the pulpit. Maybe he will show up for vote this time.

[Zachstar]

Interesting but risky move by presidential hopefule John McCain:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/mccain-halts-campaign/2008/09/25/1222217366372.html

however if McCain doesn't achieve anything in real terms, then it may prove fruitless...:hmm:

A gamble that completely failed. McCain was exposed last night by David Letterman.

You do NOT screw with Letterman and expect to win the presidency. People have been watching him for many years.

You do not "Suspend the Campaign" because the banks are crying for mommy. Hell you do not "Suspend the Campaign" if Red Storm Rising happened.

[gAiNiAc]

McCain is an old fool and Palin is an ignorant freak. He's delaying because he has nothing.


Tell us how you really feel......:rotfl:


:arrgh!:

[bookworm_020]

He's well and truly in trouble now! He's got Letterman mad!:huh:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/letterman-unloads-on-mccain/2008/09/26/1222217468226.html

[Zachstar]

He's well and truly in trouble now! He's got Letterman mad!:huh:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/letterman-unloads-on-mccain/2008/09/26/1222217468226.html

To people outside the states this may seem funny. However, Letterman is "THE" show people watch before they rest for the night. When he showed McCain being prepared for an interview with the "Need a ride to the airport?" It told many people just what a phony McCain is.

[Sailor Steve]

We all F-ed this up and it is up to all of us to unF this problem.
Hey! Leave me out of this! To have a financial crisis you have to have finances in the first place.
:rotfl:

[Frame57]

McCain is an old fool and Palin is an ignorant freak. He's delaying because he has nothing.

O rly?

I'm no McCain fan, but I hope you remember those words in November.

McCain is dangerous, politically. He has an awful lot of Americanist crap to throw at Obama and Palin was a political masterstroke, whatever her abilities.

A masterstroke of BS which seems to be the path of this once great nation. Cicero once said that for a nation standing at the abyss of corruption it is too late.

Anyhow, change can be made with bullets.You mean as in Kennedy and King?

[Konovalov]

He now decides to attend the debate: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4833003.ece


Just 10 hours before the debate was due to begin, and with Barack Obama already on his way to Mississippi, the McCain campaign announced that the Republican would appear, even though Congress had not reached a deal on a financial rescue package for Wall Street – something Mr McCain said as late as Thursday night was a precondition for his attendance.

[Digital_Trucker]

Ok, which source is right about the timing?:rotfl:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/27/us/politics/27debatecnd.html?ref=politics

Moments after Senator McCain ended several of days of suspense and announced that he would participate in the debate after all, the doors of his campaign plane were opened and the steps were down, as Mr. Obama’s 757 idled nearby on the runway at Ronald Reagan (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/ronald_wilson_reagan/index.html?inline=nyt-per) National Airport outside Washington.

[Enigma]

Desperation is a stinky cologne......

[Sea Demon]

Well, whatever the case, I'm glad the debate will go forward. It's time to do this stuff.

[Zachstar]

The gamble failed but there was no way McCain was just going to hand an automatic victory to Obama.

He will look like an idiot for doing this but atleast it seems he is interested in the presidency.