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Platapus
09-09-08, 10:57 AM
http://www.kpho.com/news/17420518/detail.html

"A judge sentenced a man to 848 1/2 years in prison, Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas announced Monday.

On Friday, Judge Maria del Mar Verdin handed 18 life sentences, five 20-year sentences, seven 17-year sentences, four 5-year sentences, and nine 1 1/2-year sentences to James Wallace Galloway, 52, said Mike Scerbo, a spokesman for the county attorney's office"

I bet a good lawyer can get that 1/2 year taken off.:up:

The sad thing is that with today's penal system over crowding and Time off for good behaviour, this guy will probably only serve half his sentence. :nope:

Digital_Trucker
09-09-08, 11:02 AM
The article didn't say whether those were consecutive or concurrent sentences. I hope consecutive.

Platapus
09-09-08, 11:05 AM
Well since the total sentence is 848 years, I assume that many of them are consecutive.

Personally I am against concurrent sentences. If you are guilty of committing two crimes than you should do the sentence for two crimes.

Digital_Trucker
09-09-08, 11:09 AM
Well since the total sentence is 848 years, I assume that many of them are consecutive.

Personally I am against concurrent sentences. If you are guilty of committing two crimes than you should do the sentence for two crimes.
I would assume that, too, but you know how things get reported some times. Someone may have just taken a calculator to them and added them up. I heartily "concur" regarding the concurrent sentence theory.:up:

Happy Times
09-09-08, 11:21 AM
Hes lucky if he gets to serve that 1/2.

SUBMAN1
09-09-08, 11:24 AM
Hes lucky if he gets to serve that 1/2.I wouldn't say that. He is not lucky if he lives long enough to serve that half year. What kind of life is that?

-S

Digital_Trucker
09-09-08, 11:27 AM
Guess he should have done all this in France. Evidently he'd only get 20 years there.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24323378-12377,00.html

FIREWALL
09-09-08, 11:30 AM
I think for the crimes cited he should only serve 5 minutes.....

IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR. :dead:

Happy Times
09-09-08, 11:31 AM
Hes lucky if he gets to serve that 1/2.I wouldn't say that. He is not lucky if he lives long enough to serve that half year. What kind of life is that?

-S

Maybe he has coupons?

http://www.studio8.net/images/Coupons/coupon---prison-rape.jpg

kranz
09-09-08, 11:36 AM
I think for the crimes cited he should only serve 5 minutes.....

IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR. :dead:

why not throwing stones to death or burying in ant's nest(?)-oh, you know where.
Two days ago I saw a documentary. A guy got 721+17 life... in San Quentin. I thought it was long but a new record was made...

Platapus
09-09-08, 12:04 PM
Useless trivia question.

While these huge sentences are great for the press, clearly no one will ever serve them.

What United States prisoner actually served the most time in prison before being released? I am not talking about length of sentence, but actual length of time spent behind bars.

Wolfehunter
09-09-08, 12:07 PM
I think for the crimes cited he should only serve 5 minutes.....

IN AN ELECTRIC CHAIR. :dead: Thats too good for him. They should cut off his jems. But first smash them abit...:yep:

Platapus
09-09-08, 12:14 PM
A friend of mine had the idea of putting an rheostat on the Electric Chair so the power could be slooooooowly brought up to the appropriate level. And for particularly heinous crimes the power could be brought up, and then down, up, then down.

He has a nasty streak in him :yep:

Rhodes
09-09-08, 01:07 PM
A friend of mine had the idea of putting an rheostat on the Electric Chair so the power could be slooooooowly brought up to the appropriate level. And for particularly heinous crimes the power could be brought up, and then down, up, then down.

He has a nasty streak in him :yep:

Me like his idea!!!

SS107.9MHz
09-09-08, 01:55 PM
Guess he should have done all this in France. Evidently he'd only get 20 years there.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24323378-12377,00.html

not at all, should have done it in Portugal:

In portugal, homicide has a harder sentence than infanticide
Sexual abuse of an infant has the same treatment.
Children in Portugal are treated has half a person, must be the same principle has kid sized meal, half the size, half the justice...

Just so you know:
any sexual act involving a child under 14 age gets 1 to 8 years in prison.
If the crime involves anal coitus the time rises from 3 to 10 years.

These don't involve exihbitionist (being it visual, written or said) wich can amount up to 3 years, or from 1/2 to 5 years if there is intent to acquire financial gain.

And these are all fairly recent in our penal code... We had a supposed case of a child molester in our parliament (who was aquitted) involved in a HUGE scandal called casa Pia(a home for orphaned and very poor kids), involved a ex-ambassador and a famous tv presenter/journalist, etc, ... Taking account on these laws...Seems to me there might b a lot more of them if you ask me...

1480
09-09-08, 02:06 PM
Useless trivia question.

While these huge sentences are great for the press, clearly no one will ever serve them.

What United States prisoner actually served the most time in prison before being released? I am not talking about length of sentence, but actual length of time spent behind bars.

William Heirens is still behind bars in my great state for 61 years, but has not been released last time I heard....

SS107.9MHz
09-09-08, 02:13 PM
I'm aggainst the death penalty (death penalty : a type of penalty in which he goalkeeper must defend a shot taken by death itself, or, penalty kick given to the attacking team, when the defendig player strikes the attacker , resulting in death), mostly because humans can't have an absolute certainty about nothing, but I'm a suporte of life-inprisonment, and these guys should at least get it...an some bigfat guy who wants them for girlfriends in prison too.

"If we outlawed the Death Penalty we'd have to do it in back alleys with coat hangers"

Platapus
09-09-08, 02:37 PM
William Heirens is still behind bars in my great state for 61 years, but has not been released last time I heard....

He is close but still has a few years to go to break the record. :)

bookworm_020
09-09-08, 08:40 PM
A friend of mine had the idea of putting an rheostat on the Electric Chair so the power could be slooooooowly brought up to the appropriate level. And for particularly heinous crimes the power could be brought up, and then down, up, then down.

He has a nasty streak in him :yep:
Me like his idea!!!

It appeals to me as well!:D

UnderseaLcpl
09-09-08, 09:16 PM
Why not slowly work such offenders to death in labor camps? That way they can endure more suffering and the proceeds can benefit their victims.
If they are later acquitted, the profits from their toil can be used to offset a generous state recompense for their wrongful conviction.

And there's a double bonus. Several religious types can take comfort in the belief that these people will pay for their crimes twice. Once in life, and again, for eternity, in death.

Efficient, no?:D

August
09-09-08, 11:05 PM
I am against the death penalty. While I admit it is 100% effective in eliminating further crimes, at least any committed by those sentenced to it, it's still possible to railroad an innocent person, either through circumstance or deliberate intent.

IMO it's better to put such human animals in a little box, away from all non guard human contact, with no amenities beyond that necessary for survival, so they can spend the rest of their miserable existences contemplating their crimes.

After they've served at least 25 years of their sentence then i'd give them the option of suicide in order to ease the burden on the taxpayer.

headcase
09-09-08, 11:39 PM
I'm not against the death penalty on any sort of moral ground. I just think it's way too quick and easy. I want the sleazes to live to truly regret their crimes. I want the offenders locked in filthy out houses with bad Ethel Mermann impersonators. Shove them into a 5"x5" concrete room, strap 'em to gurney IV'd out the wazzoo, and leave 'em. Make it one that shifts them around so they don't get bedsores and whatnot. put on Pauly Shore movies. No human contact. For lesser offences put 'em in the stocks in the Town Square! Humiliation can be a very effective means of initial rehabilitation and deterence. But then again I'm a worthless dinosaur.

Reece
09-09-08, 11:57 PM
Sentences are too light over here in Australia, the punishment should fit the crime IMO, for example rapists should have their nuts cut off!:yep: Tell you what, I bet crime goes down a long way!:D

bookworm_020
09-10-08, 12:18 AM
Sentences are too light over here in Australia, the punishment should fit the crime IMO, for example rapists should have their nuts cut off!:yep: Tell you what, I bet crime goes down a long way!:D

Why not go the whole hog and off with the whole block and tackle???:hmm:

Reece
09-10-08, 12:57 AM
Why not go the whole hog and off with the whole block and tackle???:hmm::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

UnderseaLcpl
09-10-08, 08:09 AM
After they've served at least 25 years of their sentence then i'd give them the option of suicide in order to ease the burden on the taxpayer.

You don't think my "labor camp" idea would be more efficient?:cry:

headcase
09-10-08, 09:58 AM
After they've served at least 25 years of their sentence then i'd give them the option of suicide in order to ease the burden on the taxpayer.
You don't think my "labor camp" idea would be more efficient?:cry:

Why not ask Joe Stalin? He'd know better than anyone.

August
09-10-08, 11:14 AM
After they've served at least 25 years of their sentence then i'd give them the option of suicide in order to ease the burden on the taxpayer.
You don't think my "labor camp" idea would be more efficient?:cry:

My main issue with any scheme to make money off convicts is it provides temptation for corrupt officials to keep the money flowing in at the expense of justice.

Stealth Hunter
09-10-08, 11:52 AM
I've always admired the French for this concept with the penal colony system. It's not like they're unable to work anymore. Make money off them, don't waste money on them.

My main issue with any scheme to make money off convicts is it provides temptation for corrupt officials to keep the money flowing in at the expense of justice.

That would definitely happen here and there. However, justice is frequently misused in other cases (like with the immigration system), so it wouldn't be anything new.

I am against the death penalty. While I admit it is 100% effective in eliminating further crimes, at least any committed by those sentenced to it, it's still possible to railroad an innocent person, either through circumstance or deliberate intent.

Accidents happen. You can't save everyone. Malicious and deliberate acts that cause harm to an innocent are incurable and will always exist... can't think on any other sayings.

In cases where the evidence is overwhelming, yeah, I would support the death penalty. I'd prefer to kill them and move along (so we save time, taxpayer dollars, and also remove a worthless scumbag from the face of the earth).

IMO it's better to put such human animals in a little box, away from all non guard human contact, with no amenities beyond that necessary for survival, so they can spend the rest of their miserable existences contemplating their crimes.

I've always liked that idea... put them on some forsaken island out in the middle of the ocean where there is no hope of escaping alive and leave them to rot.

After they've served at least 25 years of their sentence then i'd give them the option of suicide in order to ease the burden on the taxpayer.

IMO, it would depend what they're guilty of.

Jimbuna
09-10-08, 12:06 PM
Sentences are too light over here in Australia, the punishment should fit the crime IMO, for example rapists should have their nuts cut off!:yep: Tell you what, I bet crime goes down a long way!:D

I reckon you'd win that bet :lol:

August
09-10-08, 01:39 PM
Accidents happen. You can't save everyone. Malicious and deliberate acts that cause harm to an innocent are incurable and will always exist... can't think on any other sayings.

That's definitely true, you can't prevent accidents or malicious acts but at least if the victims of such things are still alive they can be released from prison. It certainly doesn't make up 100% for the wasted years of the disruption to a persons life but it's a heckuva lot better than saying "oops we're sorry" to an executed mans family.

Platapus
09-10-08, 03:05 PM
I am against the death penalty. While I admit it is 100% effective in eliminating further crimes, at least any committed by those sentenced to it, it's still possible to railroad an innocent person, either through circumstance or deliberate intent.



I am in favour of the concept of the death penalty but I am against the application due to the very reasons you mention.

In my opinion, the death penalty should only be levied when there is firm scientific evidence, such as but not limited to DNA, that links the person to the crime. No more death penalties levied based on eye witness accounts as they have been demonstrated to be unreliable.

To me, one of the worst mistakes a society can make is to unjustly convict an innocent person. This mistake is magnified greatly when society kills an innocent person. Yes, I would rather 10 criminals go free than 1 innocent person be unjustly convicted.

Stories like this

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/10/masters.case.ap/index.html

Infuriate me. These people should not be "rebuked" or "censured". They need to be brought up on charges. They betrayed a critical trust that almost resulted in an innocent citizen to be executed.

Stealth Hunter
09-10-08, 04:56 PM
Accidents happen. You can't save everyone. Malicious and deliberate acts that cause harm to an innocent are incurable and will always exist... can't think on any other sayings.

That's definitely true, you can't prevent accidents or malicious acts but at least if the victims of such things are still alive they can be released from prison. It certainly doesn't make up 100% for the wasted years of the disruption to a persons life but it's a heckuva lot better than saying "oops we're sorry" to an executed mans family.

:hmm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_wX9gpn9wo

Platapus
09-11-08, 02:23 PM
Useless trivia question.

While these huge sentences are great for the press, clearly no one will ever serve them.

What United States prisoner actually served the most time in prison before being released? I am not talking about length of sentence, but actual length of time spent behind bars.


Useless answer

Paul Geidel Served 68 years 245 days before being released on May 7, 1980, at the age of 86. Paul was convicted in 1912 of second degree murder and sentenced to 20 to life. He was 18 at the time.

In 1974, Geidel was offered parole but he turned it down. By that time he had spent 63 years of his 80 year life in prison. It was the only life he knew as an adult.