UN Again

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Everyone should have one meat-free day a week to tackle climate change, says UN

Everyone should have one meat-free day a week to help save the planet, a leading expert on global warming has claimed.

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, who chairs the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said meat farming produces enormous amounts of greenhouse gases.

The environmental scientist, joint winner of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, said sticking to vegetables once a week would have more beneficial effects than reducing car journeys.
'Give up meat for one day (a week) initially,' the Indian economist recommended.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.html)


I heard this on the radio last night, talk about a good laugh. :rotfl:

[Skybird]

The other way around with me: I do have one meat-day every ten days or so.:88)

Long time ago, I even was vegetarian for around ten years or so. But the occasional steak, or having a nice recipe for something chinese, became too tempting.

That mass-lifestock holding creates probolems, is clear. and yes, you can live very well and healthy and comfortably by not eating meat every or every second day.

just that this now is being sold as the new political of climate salvation - this is the true joke in this message.

[Mush Martin]

I wonder if we didnt have a billion cows.
would nature fill the biosphere with other life?
wouldnt that life also emit. I dont mean the farming
diesel fumes I mean the methane produced by
the cows driving the topic.
the mass of waste and detritus produced by the biomass
that replaced the cows would not likely be
too much different. I dont think.

[August]

Human population drives the livestock population. If we don't figure out how to control the former we have no hope of reducing the latter.

[nikimcbee]

Everyone should have one meat-free day a week to tackle climate change, says UN

Everyone should have one meat-free day a week to help save the planet, a leading expert on global warming has claimed.

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, who chairs the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said meat farming produces enormous amounts of greenhouse gases.

The environmental scientist, joint winner of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, said sticking to vegetables once a week would have more beneficial effects than reducing car journeys.
'Give up meat for one day (a week) initially,' the Indian economist recommended.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.html)


I heard this on the radio last night, talk about a good laugh. :rotfl:

It's a good thing you like curry.:up:

[Skybird]

I wonder if we didnt have a billion cows.
would nature fill the biosphere with other life?
wouldnt that life also emit. I dont mean the farming
diesel fumes I mean the methane produced by
the cows driving the topic.
the mass of waste and detritus produced by the biomass
that replaced the cows would not likely be
too much different. I dont think.
Intensive lifestock farming of modenr kind is a result of human intervention, and would not have seen this form if nature would have run the show all without us. Many agriculturally used species would not even exist. There is a cycle of dynamic balances between predator and prey, number of animals and food it can find.

It goes beyond methane. With the energy that is inside that quantity of grain and plants you need to raise one piece of cattle untiol it gets slaughtered, you could feed, so shows calculations, roughly 200 times (don't nail me if it is a hundred more) as many people as the slaughtered cattle will feed. Seen that way, lifestock famring to produce meat for eating is a giant waste of energy, and agricultural meadows (and forest being turned into meadows: rainforest) to feed cattle.

It is also about the consequences from lifestock holding in massive, concentrated form in local hotspots (sorry, my English fails me a bit here). There are cosnequences for ground water, and the natural environment as well - the latter especially in third worol do****ries. Huge herds of cattle here produce and/or help erosion and desertificqation.

the proposal in that essay by heart and core really is not a stupid one. They just gave it a stupid form to communicate.

BTW, my family sometimes giggle when guests of my parents got fooled by my mother. she can create from grain a meal that looks like a meat loaf that almost smeels, looks and tastes like real meat. Many grain sorts are a food that is superior to meat, and many other foods as well. In Rome the legions saw rebellions sometims when legionaires were given meat only all week long - they wanted grain, too, for they saw and experienced that they became ill easier and were becoming weakened if they only ate meat, and had not enough shares of grain.

Modern "civilised" eating habits are a mess, imo. that this media-clown Jamie Oliver (I'm no fan of him, but he simply is right in this) gets a beating over his remark that in England you can talk with people about booze for 4 pounds, but nobody can say something about how to eat healthy for just 4 pounds, is telling something. He is right on the mark there. A lose girl-friend of mine is "Ökotrophologin" (nutrionist?), a specialist for food and the medical and chemical information regarding this. when you go into a supermarket shopping with her I promise you you start seeing things with other eyes then. Almost aoll of the readied instant meals, almost all where fats, salt and sugar is being used as industrial standards, get reveleaed by her as the poison for your metablosim that it is. Fatness in the US and europe also comes from this. People are not fat becasue they eat too much, but because they eat poisenous things. and npoisenous things get produced becasue we consider that to be the freedom of business.

Our business is free to do harm and damage to people and cripple their health and shorten their lives, and is free to cause the community costs in the range of three digit billions every year, per nation, if calcultating it thoroughly from health care to losses for economy when people are sick and do not work...?

Sometimes i wonder if there is just one thing were modern civilisation has not screwed up big time.

[Jimbuna]

Everyone should have one meat-free day a week to tackle climate change, says UN

Everyone should have one meat-free day a week to help save the planet, a leading expert on global warming has claimed.

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, who chairs the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said meat farming produces enormous amounts of greenhouse gases.

The environmental scientist, joint winner of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, said sticking to vegetables once a week would have more beneficial effects than reducing car journeys.
'Give up meat for one day (a week) initially,' the Indian economist recommended.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1053270/Everyone-meat-free-day-week-tackle-climate-change-says-UN.html)


I heard this on the radio last night, talk about a good laugh. :rotfl:

It's a good thing you like curry.:up:

More meat for the pot :lol:

http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img144/958/stirringpot21ar5.gif

[SS107.9MHz]

I wonder if we didnt have a billion cows.
would nature fill the biosphere with other life?
wouldnt that life also emit. I dont mean the farming
diesel fumes I mean the methane produced by
the cows driving the topic.
the mass of waste and detritus produced by the biomass
that replaced the cows would not likely be
too much different. I dont think. Intensive lifestock farming of modenr kind is a result of human intervention, and would not have seen this form if nature would have run the show all without us. Many agriculturally used species would not even exist. There is a cycle of dynamic balances between predator and prey, number of animals and food it can find.

It goes beyond methane. With the energy that is inside that quantity of grain and plants you need to raise one piece of cattle untiol it gets slaughtered, you could feed, so shows calculations, roughly 200 times (don't nail me if it is a hundred more) as many people as the slaughtered cattle will feed. Seen that way, lifestock famring to produce meat for eating is a giant waste of energy, and agricultural meadows (and forest being turned into meadows: rainforest) to feed cattle.

....

Sometimes i wonder if there is just one thing were modern civilisation has not screwed up big time.

Time to eat mo chicken!http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/icons/icon10.gif
When I cook for myself I manily eat just bird meat and fish actually, but I love cow meet, but this way it tastes even better when do:smug:

[Tchocky]

Kind of a no-brainer, meat production takes huge resources of land and water.

[Frame57]

MMmmmmm! Me thinks I might have a nice porterhouse tonight...:yep:

[Mush Martin]

BTW, my family sometimes giggle when guests of my parents got fooled by my mother. she can create from grain a meal that looks like a meat loaf that almost smeels, looks and tastes like real meat. Many grain sorts are a food that is superior to meat, and many other foods as well. In Rome the legions saw rebellions sometims when legionaires were given meat only all week long - they wanted grain, too, for they saw and experienced that they became ill easier and were becoming weakened if they only ate meat, and had not enough shares of grain.

I would take the recipe if you were able to send it?:D


Our business is free to do harm and damage to people and cripple their health and shorten their lives, and is free to cause the community costs in the range of three digit billions every year, per nation, if calcultating it thoroughly from health care to losses for economy when people are sick and do not work...?

Sometimes i wonder if there is just one thing were modern civilisation has not screwed up big time.

Its not that I dont think its fouled up of course I do.

Its just that I feel
that its all part of the natural process that drives life outwards.
as you know, its my belief that, humanity soiling its bed is part of the
worlds natural process and a large part of the impetus that will
drive life outwards in humanities gardens and fueltanks.


I still dont see how any reasoning human can believe with intellectual
honesty that Man is outside of nature a physical impossiblity.
(*note: the above line is not an attack on anyone at subsim just a
general expression of belief on the nature of nature)

Yes the data says we are destroying the planet.
I just differ on what that all means.

in truth I would just like to get the recipe.

Regards
M

[Skybird]

in truth I would just like to get the recipe.

I'll see what I can do. ;)